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TriplePoint Venture Growth BDC Corp. (TPVG)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, May 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the TriplePoint Venture Growth's First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines have been placed in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' remarks there will be a question-and-answer period and instructions will follow at that time. This conference call is being recorded and a replay of the call will be available as an audio webcast on the TriplePoint Venture Growth website. I would now like to turn the call over to Trevor Martin. Mr. Martin, please go ahead.

Trevor Martin

Management

Thank you, Phil and thanks everyone for joining us today. Here with me are Jim Labe, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board; and Sajal Srivastava, President and Chief Investment Officer; to share with you the results for the first quarter. Before I turn the call over to Jim, I would like to direct your attention to the customary Safe Harbor disclosure in our press release regarding forward-looking statements, and remind you that during this call we will make certain statements that relate to future events or the company's future performance or financial condition, which may be considered forward-looking statements under Federal Securities Law. We ask that you refer to our most recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. We do not undertake any obligation to update our forward-looking statements or projections unless required by law. To obtain copies of our latest SEC filings, please visit our website at www.tpvg.com. Now I'll turn it over to Jim.

Jim Labe

Management

Thanks, Trevor and welcome everyone to our first quarter earnings call. We are still in the early innings of the game, to tell me it has been two months since our last earnings call but even so we continue to take some great [indiscernible] and had some memorable hits in the past quarter. This includes a record quarter for an investment income, a highest since our IPO. It further demonstrates the power of our differentiated venture lending model and while we are still young this past March marked only the third anniversary of our company’s IPO before get into the quarterly results, I would like to share some of the achievements and see IPO. Specifically since three short years, we declared $4.82 in distributions to our shareholders. We committed more than a billion dollars and funded almost 500 million in loans in our select equity investments and all of that was after acquiring an initial portfolio of almost $125 million. We increased our customer base from 16 to 48 customers during that period and the number of our investments more than doubled from 41 to 89. These include what we think are some of the most promising and exciting venture growth stage companies in Silicon Valley and across the globe. During this period, none of our companies were acquired and three went public and that's just the start, there's more in the way. In the past 12 months alone some of these fixes included some of the highest profile and notable IPOs and acquisitions in venture capital backed tech, Nutanix, Jet.com Dollar Shave Club and Simplicity. We also delivered strong weighted average portfolio yield consistently in the 12% to 15% range during this period and that's without the benefit of any customer prepayment. When you include those, the yields are…

Sajal Srivastava

Management

Thank you Jim and good afternoon everyone. In Q1, we signed approximately $49 million of term sheets a TriplePoint capital and close 37 million of debt investments and 2.4 million of equity investments. New customers in the quarter included Stance which designs and manufactures premium socks and personal apparel using a proprietary direct-to-garment printing system enabling them to print high resolution images on their unique fibers stances partnerships with well known celebrities Disney, the NBA, Major League Baseball and others as some of you may have seen on May 4th Justin Trudeau the Prime Minister of Canada actually wore Stance’s Star Wars socks during his meetings with the Prime Minister of Ireland, so some great visibility for the company. Stance has raised more than $110 million of equity capital from investors including memo ventures, Kleiner Perkins, [indiscernible] partners and others. Varsity Tutors operate the platform that connects students with personalized instruction and tutoring online and through mobile devices to accelerate academic achievement, the company has raised more than 15 million of equity capital from technology crossover ventures and others, our key equity investments in the quarter were with Cohesity which is a hyper converged, secondary storage company founded by the former cofounder and CTO of Nutanix which you may recall was a big hit for us. We co-invested in a 90 million round of equity financing, co-led by Sequoia Capital, Google Ventures and others. Cohesity has raised more than 150 million of equity capital in total. Towards these networks which makes innovative software and hardware and network virtualization platforms for the cloud we co-invested in a 21 million round of equity financing co-lead by Memo Ventures, new enterprise associates to second others, Purbase has raised more than 100 million of equity capital in total, both of our equity investments were…

Jim Labe

Management

Thanks again, Sajal. At this point we will be happy to take your questions. Operator, could you please open up the line.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. [operator instructions] First question comes from Jonathan Bock from Wells Fargo Securities.

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

So I greatly appreciate your comments on portfolio growth particularly getting into back to your target leverage in a timeframe that I wasn't necessarily expecting so Sajal we are trying to just to juxtapose, can you explain how I mean roughly $70 million of the effective portfolio growth in the phase of the split payments is possible, right. I'm just trying to understand the commitments versus actual funding and in an environment where a lot of companies are doing so well, the demand for debt capital likely would be life?

Sajal Srivastava

Management

Yes Jonathan. Good question so let me start off I think Jim covered market is definitely strong in venture capital and which from what we're seeing the demand for venture growth debt or venture stage debt from venture growth based companies is strong and I think the 85 million of a term sheet so far in Q2 plus I think we had about 50 million in Q1 and so we are seeing a strong demand and we expect again now that we've got a fair amount of liquidity from the prepays to deploy that capital back and so I would say....

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

So you have the ability, just to make sure I am right, so Sajal you effectively slowing fundings and why does the fact that you were waiting for prepayments or was that entirely on the company? Then is it a commitment is it necessarily a funded asset?

Sajal Srivastava

Management

Yes, there's no way we were not slowing funding and I think we're being mindful of signed term sheets and new commitments. Remember we have the platform so we have the ability to allocate those downturns where the BDC doesn't have funded capacity or for concentration purposes we can allocate to our private capital but I think the point was that from our perspective we are being mindful of not over committing the BDC with new deals in Q1 in light of the fact that we wanted a prepaid doesn't count so you get the cash but so we wanted to make sure we got cash in the door before we started allocating and committing new deals by TPVG which happened Simplicity happened late in quarter as did ModCloth and so we started reallocating back to TPVG late in the quarter.

Jim Labe

Management

I guess, I'd only add we're with probably midway into this quarter. As Sajal mentioned, we already have 85 million of fine term sheet, it doesn't include the ones that are in documentation so forth from signed term sheets in the last quarter. But also we have a pipeline and we don’t spend a lot of time talking about the size of it but when we say that we think there's a strong path to portfolio growth particularly this year, we mean it and the pipeline reflects that and the pipeline being a future business beyond the signed term sheet.

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

Thank you, Jim, that's very helpful. And then as we turn to just I noticed, when you obviously trying to deploy the capital quite fast, but given that there is $30 million of cash on the balance sheet half depending on funding the opportunity for that cash balance to grow but one could imagine that it's a matter of deployment. Do you pay fees on cash in the, on cash balances?

Jim Labe

Management

Yes. So, yes our maintenance fee does include on cash balances. But as you may recall, as a FYI, because we received the prepay so late in the quarter. Normally we take our prepays and we pay down our credit facility. So, because the prepay happened so late, I think was actually one of them is on the last day of the month, we didn’t have time to we have to get notice to our lenders before we prepay. So, that actually prepay occurred in April instead of happening in March because of the timing of cash received.

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

So, you'll affectively keep the cash balances I mean for virtually zero with no fees paid, I mean, end of it now?

Jim Labe

Management

Yes. Historically we keep our cash balances pretty low, which is again because of the collection of that cash so late in the quarter. We weren’t able to pay down our credit facilities.

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

So, did you waive it or did you pay on the cash that you said, I mean?

Jim Labe

Management

So, we waive our manageable fees on, so if for diversification purposes as you may be aware often time's folk's max out their credit lines, max out their cash balances in order to maintain the various diversification requirements. We by treasury bills to do that. And we waive, we bought at a 80 million of treasuries this quarter, we waive our fees on that.

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

Got it. Congratulations on the prepay for Xirrus. What type of end-of-term fee should we expect in that acceleration to come into income?

Jim Labe

Management

Yes. So, Xirrus was on nonaccrual during the quarter and we did take a 800,000 markdown on the fair value of the loan anticipation of the negotiation that occurred for the payoff or for the sale of the company. So, I would expect little boost from any accretion of end-of-term payments. We did go over our principle back but again that was a negotiator.

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

For then and for halfway through the quarter, there has been 700,000 in fundings and then a large prepay, I guess with the exception of first that I we'd have to maybe just ask. Would it be fair to say that earnings should likely fall below the dividend this quarter just given it's going to take a while for you to get into actual fundings to cover the dividend given a net leverage is like 0.41?

Jim Labe

Management

Yes. I think, good point. So, obviously we have $0.50 of NII from Q1. So, I give this a fair amount of buffer going into Q2 as we collect additional prepays and as you know the fundings typically happen, the last month or sometime the last week on the quarter. So, from our perspective, no change from our perspective in terms of covering the dividend for the year. But again, quarter-to-quarter we always deal with the tops from the prepays and over earning and then in those quarters where we're under levered and we got to scale up what we make on the move.

Jonathan Bock

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, so much.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Casey Alexander from Compass Point Research & Trading. Please go ahead.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. First of all, Trevor, from a kind of a higher level perspective, is it your sense that as compared to your long history in doing venture growth loans that perhaps the velocity of the portfolio has picked up here in the last couple of years. Do you get that sense?

Trevor Martin

Management

Again you mean velocity of portfolio growth or velocity of prepay casing?

Casey Alexander

Analyst

The velocity of prepays, that the average life of loans maybe is being coming down sum because of an acceleration in general of prepays across the universe over the last couple of years.

Trevor Martin

Management

I would say that the one nuance of it as we've seen M&A activity pick up. So, if you recall there's been the IPO window had been closed for some time, M&A has been closed for some period of time. So, I would definitely say in the last couple of years, I mean if you look at our portfolio right Jet.com dollars, I mean we had a number of portfolio companies get acquired and then we've had prepays associated with it. So, I think that was a good prepays, right, having exits, portfolio exits and prepays tied to those. So, I think to the extent that we've seen more of those, it shouldn’t be a surprise because we're seeing good things happen with portfolio exits. I think we've maybe had two at times portfolio refi. So, we've been paid out because another lenders come in. I think that's a great data point that our portfolio companies don’t shop us necessarily. And then to the last point, in terms of where we may see a little bit more but again I wouldn’t say it's a pattern but it's more of a reflection of potentially more robust equity fund raising environment in the most recent one to two years and maybe three four five years ago. Yes, with companies raising a heck of a lot of equity capital, there's been a little bit of a bump up in prepay activity when company raises $200 million around the financing and they have $30 million outstanding with us and they're earning less than prime in the bank account or close to zero, and they're paying us 14%. We would naturally expect some prepay associate with that.

Jim Labe

Management

I guess I'd only add KCM as a lender, I love getting prepaid, I don’t mind getting prepayments, I like what it does to income and I'm looking for our money back and income. So, I stop sure to saying there's any kind of trend or concluding anything like that and we've given guidance of on average one to two prepays per quarter and its' a baseball game, right. Sometimes it'll be a few more in the inning, sometimes a few as but had stopped short of drawing any kind of market change in the assets.

Trevor Martin

Management

I think we obviously love getting our money back versus not getting our money back and moving it. So yes, getting it back and prepays and lets we introduce the concept of repays. Of paying off their debt wins schedules. So, those are turn way to things.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Okay. Secondly, can you give us a little bit more color on the equity co-invest? What led to that as opposed to doing a debt solution for the customer?

Jim Labe

Management

Yes. I guess the best way to tack that is in some instances depending on the timing, the market, the company, it makes sense to lead with a little equity and then have the debt follow. It's something that we've done for long period of time and it's opportunistic and it's a win-win for all. So, --.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Jim, let me ask you real quick. When you'd be that equity co-invest, do you have an unfunded commitment on the debt side behind it?

Jim Labe

Management

No, we don’t. Not if we finalize a debt deal, but I could even point to existing like Nutanix was an example where we did a million equity investment existing on BDC company and then we had a I say it was a $10 million or $15 million line. Sometimes the debt follows the equity timing and sometimes we'd say other way around by the way.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

So, by making the equity co-investment and put you kind of in the driver seat of a debt solution does come up?

Trevor Martin

Management

Absolutely. But again, when we make the equity investment decision, we're making an independent decision, the merits of the investment itself and we viewed as an equity investment in return thresholds that we have and things of that nature. So, we're not using the equity to subsidize that that were viewing as an independent decision.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, that's very helpful. In terms of KnCMiner, is there any timings any better sense of timings for the release of funds from the trustee?

Trevor Martin

Management

Yes. I think a good question, Casey. We're working with our Swedish council, we're hoping to see that distribution start here in Q2. We continue to pester them. I think I mentioned that there as a claims finalization date of April 12th and so our lawyers are literally meeting with them the trustee this week to finalize the timing for the distribution. And again the small distribution I mentioned that we received actually today was separate from that, it was actually again from GoGreen Light. So, that profit distribution agreement that we have. So, nice development there.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Well, "working with our Swedish Council" is not a sentence that we hear that often in a BDC conference call.

Trevor Martin

Management

Sure enough.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Last question, one question real quick. Any sense on or update on the search for a new CFO?

Jim Labe

Management

Yes. No, I think it's an ongoing process. From our perspective, we continue to meet with some great candidates. We continue to be picky about the quality and the caliber and the profile and we expect it to be a 2017 event absolutely.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Well, okay great. Thank you, so much for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Okay. That concludes this afternoons question and answer session. I'll turn the call back over to Jim Labe for some concluding remarks.

Jim Labe

Management

I'll close again by expressing my appreciation to all of you for your continued interest and support in TriplePoint Venture Growth. Thanks, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon. Goodbye.

Operator

Operator

That concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.