Jon Winkelried
Analyst · Wolfe Research.
Yes. Look, I mean, we've talked about capital markets pretty consistently over the last few years and the importance of the business to the firm and the continued build-out of our business. And I think what we have done is we are continuing to -- we've done a few things, and we continue to. One is we continue to build out our capital markets capabilities across all of our strategies. And simply, what we've done is we've added capital market expertise, really embedded in each of our strategies so that they are connected to and close to the deal-making process, which gives us the opportunity to finance deals. It gives us the opportunities to refinance balance sheets and also provide interesting solutions and extend our capital base as well to the extent that we are going to do larger and larger transactions. The second thing that's happened, which is material, is that as a result of the coming together with our credit business and the level of collaboration that we are able to execute on across the firm, there is increasingly interesting opportunities across asset class with respect to our capital markets capability. And so when you see some of these deals that we're doing and some of these investments that we're making and some of these deals that we're doing that I mentioned earlier, like the Altice deal, the DISH deal that we did last year, the xAI deal, those transactions are really being executed by some collaboration of our investment teams across credit and private equity in those cases, actually in the -- and in a couple of cases, our real estate team as well, but also involving our capital markets capability in all of them, again, to extend our capital base or either syndicate risk, et cetera. I think that as we move forward in the future, as the firm continues to grow, as a number of strategies continue to evolve, obviously, somewhat subject to -- of course, subject to deal pace and deployment pace, capital markets should just generally grow. It should be correlated to the growth of the firm and the transactional activity overall. So we feel very good about it, and I think it will continue to be an important driver for us.