Manel Cascallo
Analyst · Maxim Group. You may proceed with your question.
Sure. So just to give you a bit more color around the trial, that's designed to be a controlled trial with two arms, okay? So obviously, the data, the historical data for overall survival for the control arm, so the gemcitabine, nab-paclitaxel arm, it's around normally between 8 and 11 months, okay? That's expected overall survival that has been validated in several studies from the drug approval to right now with different studies, just confirming this number. So our Phase I data in the reduced group of patients that we have treated with the same dose that we are planning to conduct a Phase II study indicates that these numbers can be larger. And we think that probably we can get closer at least to 15 months or even more. In fact, in our Phase I trial in this reduced population is close to 20 months. So we are quite optimistic about that but obviously, the trial has to confirm this data. And then that could be really impressing. In terms of response rate, for instance, we are expecting to be in one year overall response rate around, let's say, 65% probably is the number that we are contemplating for statistical purposes, at least, okay? Coming back to your question about the role of immunity and I assume you referred to neutralizing antibodies against the first administration. It's a very interesting question. And you are right in the sense that it has been previously demonstrated that clinical administration of adenoviruses, in general, several oncolytic viruses in general, generates a peak of neutralizing antibodies. We have a lot of data collected from our Phase I program in different trials, where we have monitored quite closely with the kinetics of generation and degradation of neutralizing antibodies in patients. And we have observed that after the first administration, we see a peak that normally, of course, between 15 and -- day 15 and day 30 but normally by, let's say, 12 weeks, this peak decreased significantly and decreased to a level of neutralizing antibodies that we know that we are able to overcome with the doses of VCN-01 that we inject. And that's something that we have validated in Phase I trial. That's why in our schema with VCN-01, the repeated administration occurs in three month period. That's quite consistent with has been observed in other applications of adenovirus. For instance, a very popular administration is, for instance, the COVID vaccine for AstraZeneca that it's also based on adenovirus. And as you probably know, the lag time between the two administration of this vaccine fits also in this three month period which is basically the period when the levels of neutralizing antibodies decrease significant. So we are quite confident because our data previously generated with VCN-01 by systemic administration, confirms that the second dose can be as effective as the first dose is.