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Toast, Inc. (TOST)

Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 15, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Kate and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Toast Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I'll now turn the call over to Michael Senno, Senior Vice President of Finance. You may begin the conference.

Michael Senno

Analyst

Thanks Kate. Welcome to Toast's earnings conference call for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31st, 2023. On today's call are CEO and Co-Founder, Aman Narang; and CFO, Elena Gomez. We'll open our prepared remarks, which will be followed by our Q&A session. Before we start, I'd like to draw your attention to the Safe Harbor statement included in today's press release. During this call, we'll make statements related to our business that may be can be forward looking within the meaning of the Securities Act and the Exchange Act. All statements other than statements of historical facts are forward-looking statements including those regarding management's expectations or future financial and operational performance and operational expenditures, location growth, future profitability timeline and margin outlook, anticipated impact of our restructuring plan and share repurchase program, expected growth and business outlook, including our financial guidance for the first quarter and full year 2024. Forward-looking statements reflect our views only as of today and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in today's press release and our SEC filings for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. During this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, including, but not limited to, non-GAAP subscription services gross profit and non-GAAP Financial Technology Solutions gross profit, which we refer to collectively as our recurring gross profit streams. These are the basis for our topline guidance. These non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. Please refer to our earnings release and SEC filings for detailed reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures. Unless otherwise stated, all references on this call to cost of revenue, gross profit and gross margin, sales and marketing expense, research and development expense, and general and administrative expense are on a non-GAAP basis. Finally, the press release and our earnings presentation can be found on the Investor Relations website at investors.toasttab.com. We will no longer publish an earnings presentation on a quarterly basis going forward. After the call, a replay will be available on our website. With that, let me turn the call over to Aman.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Thank you, Michael. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining today's conference call. This is my 12th year since we launched Toast in my basement with Steve Forde and Jonathan Grimm back in 2012. And I'm honored to be here today with all of you and leave this great business as CEO on my first earnings call. Before I recap 2023 and look ahead to 2024, I do want to address one topic upfront. We've made the difficult but right decision to reduce our headcount by 10%. As you know, Toast grew rapidly over the past three years to support our growing customer community. As we've taken a look across the organization, it has become clear that we grew our team to quickly in some areas, and we need to restructure the organization to best align with our most priorities. The changes we announced today primarily focused on noncustomer-facing roles and we remain committed to fitting healthy topline growth and delivering a best-in-class customer experience. I want to thank every Toaster passing present, including those who are leaving us for the important part, each of you played in getting us to where we are today. In the very immediate term, my priority is to ensure we navigate today's decision with empathy and support for those affected. As we work through this transition, I'm confident we can tap into a renewed sense of optimism for the opportunity is. Our designing challenge for 2024 is to operate with a shared urgency against our mission, raise the bar on how we collaborate, and maintain a relentless focus on our customers. Over the past decade, we've built a leading integrated software platform for the restaurant industry. And since our IPO in September 2021, we've launched so much innovation to help restaurants thrive, products…

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Thank you, Aman and to everyone for joining. I'd like to thank all of our testers for their hard work and commitments, including those we are saying goodbye today. Organizational changes like these are hard though this is a necessary step to streamline how we operate and position us to go faster to capitalize on the opportunity ahead. In 2023, we showed our ability to balance durable growth and profitability. For the year, Toast processed over $125 billion in payment volume, up 38%. ARR grew 35% and total fintech and subscription gross profit, our recurring gross profit streams increased 49% for the year. And we are efficiently scaling the business and driving cost discipline, delivering adjusted EBITDA of $61 million, a 6% margin on our recurring gross profit stream, 22 percentage points better than 2022. Over the past two years, we've embedded durable efficient growth out of a principle of how we operate the business. The midpoints of our 2024 guidance at 24% growth in our recurring gross profit streams and $210 million in adjusted EBITDA reinforces this and puts us on track for GAAP operating income profitability by the first half of 2025. As you heard from Aman, we are still in the early stages of our growth potential and committed to maintain the same approach as we lean into the growth opportunity and continue to scale. The three main areas I want to cover today are our fourth quarter results, our guidance and the impact of our restructuring lens, and our capital allocation approach, including the $250 million share repurchase program we announced today. Starting with our fourth quarter results. We added over 6,500 net locations, increasing our total locations to approximately 106,000, up 34% year-over-year. SaaS ARR grew 43% year-over-year, driven by the strong location growth and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question will be from the line of Will Nance with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Will Nance

Analyst

Hey guys. Appreciate all the color today and congrats on the strong results. You mentioned pricing a couple of times in the prepared remarks. So maybe you could just kind of expand a bit on in terms of how you're thinking about pricing. I know it's something you, guys, have been talking about in the past couple of quarters. And then, Aman, maybe just a numerical clarification on the guidance, the mid-single-digit ARPU. Is that on an ending basis, kind of like we discussed last year? Or is that more on an ongoing basis over the course of the year? Thanks.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Will. I'll start by saying, if you look at pricing, it's an important lever for us, but we plan to use it gradually as part of a broader strategy. We've been at this for over a decade, and we're continuing to invest in our restaurant-specific platform, to help restaurant's drive. And I think our customers understand that we continue to invest in this platform that we will increase prices over time. If you look at our new customers that are joining our platform, they're paying us more across both SaaS and fintech. And over time, we expect that existing customers, we will make those adjustments gradually, and it's going to be a lever that we'll use over time.

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Yes. And I can -- Will, you had the question about SaaS and is that an ending point over the course of the year, and we expect it to be in that range over the course of the year.

Will Nance

Analyst

Got it. I appreciate both of those. And then maybe just a follow-up question on Toast Capital, that's been, I think, a little over a year since you rolled out the longer duration products there. You kind of mentioned prudently managing that. Just wondering if you could kind of talk about your expectations for that product? Is there something you, guys, are kind of looking to get more data on or kind of more history? And how should we think about kind of the potential for that product as you continue to scale it. Thanks.

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Yes. Thanks Will for the question. So, at the highest level, we're really pleased with the performance of Toast Capital and customer demand has been really steady and default rates are in line with our expectations to, really confident in the program overall. We did launch the 360 program last year. Now, we've lapped that. So, we're more in a steady state, I would say, in the business but still seeing healthy demand. And I would expect over this course of this year, it will grow more in line with the rest of the business. But we'll scale it prudently, as you mentioned. And then over the longer term, I think we have an opportunity to continue to evolve and offer more fintech solutions to our customers. But for now, we're going to focus on optimizing this program. It's working well.

Will Nance

Analyst

Got it. Appreciate you taking the questions. Congrats again.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Operator, we'll take the next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question will be from the line of Harshita Rawat with Bernstein. Your line is now open.

Harshita Rawat

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. Elena, can you talk about the dynamics on the gross profit on the fintech side. Looks like the net take rates came down a little bit. I know there's some seasonality here, but can you talk about the drivers here, especially looking forward? I know some of your peers have commented on favorable pricing environment. And then just as a follow-up, Aman, can you talk about the overall data for Toast to new business formation which has been kind of running above trend over the last period? Thank you.

Elena Gomez

Analyst

I'll cover the first question. I didn't hear clearly the second question so we may ask you to repeat it if that's okay. On the take rate question, take rate in Q4 was 52 basis points, 10 basis points of that is related to Toast Capital. Our core take rate was 42 basis points. And so that -- and that was -- there were some customer credits in that take rate. Nothing structural to consider over the long-term. As we think about take rate over the next year, have that same seasonal pattern we do in Q1 where because of debit, it's higher. But as the year progresses, we should see it improve mostly because we're going to continue our cost optimization efforts, we'll have some surgical pricing that's planned in the latter half of the year. And then longer term, of course, as I will talk about, we always continue to optimize our take rate and drive it up steadily over time. And then your second question, do you mind repeating it?

Harshita Rawat

Analyst

Yes, of course. So, it was about your beta to overall like new business formation on the location adds. I know overall, if I look at like new business formation restaurants, it's been running higher versus trend on the long-term trend. So, just any comments there. Thank you.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. Thanks Harshita. Look, we've seen continue to see fairly balanced between new opening existing restaurants. Post-COVID, we saw a bit of tailwind from new restaurants, but that hasn't tailed off in any material way. I'd also just say, if you zoom out, we've been at this for over a decade. And we're the first to build this vertically innovative restaurant-specific platform, and we'll continue to invest. And what we see is across both existing restaurants and new restaurants, we see our sales team able to continue to create market share across both. This is across FSRs and QSRs. And so even in a world where there's some movement in terms of the number of new openings, and we're confident in our ability to continue to gain share.

Harshita Rawat

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Tien-Tsin Huang with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Thank you and I appreciate all the profitability focus here. So, my question, Elena, for you, you were spot on with your location outlook here in the second half of 2023. You mentioned you're going to add more in 2024 than 2023. A question I get quite often is how did the new location additions differ than what you've seen in the past year or two years ago. I think there's a -- there's always this question of other smaller GPV potential locations. Can you maybe just comment on that big picture-wise? Thank you.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. I'm happy, Tien-Tsin. Thanks for the question. I'll repeat what I just said. If you think about our mission. We've been at this for 12 years now. And we were the first ones to build a platform that was purpose-built for the restaurant industry. And the team is continuing to invest to make it accessible across all restaurants, right, starting in the US and over time globally. If you look in the near-term, like SMBs continue to drive the majority of our growth, and we see a lot of -- as we gain share. We've talked about how as we get into markets, I talked about this in my prepared remarks. We see more and more markets getting into [Indiscernible] state, which is markets that have over 20% share. And then we're also expanding our products to go after the broader TAM, starting with the US TAM, and enterprise market as well as mid-market and DSMB and then in international markets as well. The impact to GPV as we expand the TAM should be minimal and gradual. Our average location, we expect will continue to remain above industry averages. And as we mentioned, like this year, we expect ARPU to continue to grow in 2024 to complement our location growth and be a vector of growth. And the team is very focused on making sure that as we get into new parts TAM, there are looking at payback periods to make sure that we're help getting economics across the broader TAM.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Great. No, thanks for going through that. I didn't mean to be redundant, but just wanted to cover that. Then just maybe as a follow-on with that ARPU comment, just the attached products. Is that evolving as well? I know the 43% using 6 plus has stayed there, but is the composition of products be taken changing at all? I know that a lot of your peers are pushing some of the higher-end stuff like payroll as well. Any update there? Thank you and I'll jump off.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Tien-Tsin. Yes. Look, we're seeing -- one of the things we just rolled out was pricing and packaging 3.0, the new version, and it's really helping our new business reps optimize with location growth, as well as maximizing our ARPU upfront, and we're balancing that with our upsell team that we're continuing to scale. In terms of the product attach rates, there's nothing that's fundamentally changed. We're seeing healthy growth across our employee cloud products, our fintech products, our guest products. And the R&D team continue to focus on getting customer feedback as we continue to scale locations to see what are ways in which we can increase terminal attach in terms of expanding the product market fit for these products. But we continue to see healthy growth across the portfolio of products that we offer. Thanks Tien-Tsin. Operator, we'll take the next one.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Stephen Sheldon with William Blair. Your line is now open.

Stephen Sheldon

Analyst

Hey, thank you. So great to hear that you're now over 30% SMB market share in some markets. And I think you noted in those markets, you're still seeing healthy share gains. But curious if market share gains seem to be slowing down some once you hit a threshold like that, you reach some level of saturation where it gets a lot harder to grow locations in some of those markets?

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the question Sheldon. I mean, I mentioned this in my prepared remarks, but even in our markets where we have the highest SMB patient, this is over 30%. We're still seeing some of the strongest rep productivity and some of the strongest conversion in productivity. I think a lot of that is driven by just the social proof as we make more customers successful in these markets. We continue to see strong growth. So, we haven't seen any change in terms of the rate at which customers are joining our platform as we get more share in these local markets.

Stephen Sheldon

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then a follow-up with international monetization, seeming like it's picking up. I think you noted a 1,000 locations those three markets. How are you thinking about expansion into other markets beyond those three that you've been focusing investment on so far?

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Yes, it's a good question. We are -- for the moment, we're really focused on the markets that we're in. We're still early in the early days there, and we've got -- we've been focusing on the go-to-market motion and honing that and building out the platform. So, we want to continue to focus there, but we'll update you should not change. But for the near-term, we're focused on the contributions that we've talked about, which is the UK, Canada, and Dublin.

Aman Narang

Analyst

The only thing I'll add in those markets, we see tremendous potential for growth, right? It's still in the early days of I think what's possible. The reception received from these customers in these markets is very similar to what we saw in the U.S. or early days, and we want to make sure that we're able to get these markets to a great spot before we think about expanding beyond that.

Stephen Sheldon

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, The next question is from the line of Dave Koning with Baird. Your line is now open.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Yes. Hey guys, great job. I guess my first question, the flow-through on recurring GP growth was like 70% to EBITDA the last two quarters. So, you're getting incredible margin kind of go through. And I guess I'm wondering, is that kind of level sustainable? And is there some sort of metric like EBITDA percent regarding GP, we could see you give at some point, is there some sort of target on that?

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Yes, I mean I'd point you to our guidance. We're really confident in the guidance that we have, Dave, and it's reflecting if you think about the long-term guidance we've given out a few quarters ago, that's -- we have ambition to get to 30% to 35% long-term recurring gross profit growth. That was something we talked about over the long-term -- sorry, EBITDA margin. And so just keep that in mind, that continues to be our focus. And you see us tracking towards that based on the leverage you've seen in the business over the last several quarters and the guidance that we said today. So, our ambitions on EBITDA guidance haven't changed over the long-term.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Great. Great. Thanks. And then I guess on the fintech yield, I think Harshita asked a little bit about this, too. It was a little down this year. Is the seasonal impact Q1 being the highest then going down through the year? Or because of some pricing actions, could we see a little divergence in kind of the normal yield progression through the year?

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Yes, Q1 definitely is typically because of -- you'll see a higher impact. And then as the year progresses, it's not just we have a marginal in for some surgical putting in the second half of the year. But you'll continue to see us optimize cost, and that's just part of our normal mode of operating is really trying to optimize our cost structure over time. So both will play a role in the second half of the year.

Dave Koning

Analyst

Got you. Thanks. Great job.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Tim Chiodo with UBS. Your line is now open.

Tim Chiodo

Analyst

Great. Thank you. I want to dig in a little bit to the mid-single-digit SaaS ARR per location outlook. Two components there I want to dig into. First is the newer customer cohort and also the potential from the upsell of the back book. On the newer customers or the new cohort, are you able to put a finer point on what sort of assay ARPU location level that they are coming in at maybe relative to the total company or relative to last year's new cohort? And then on the existing customers, given you've hired new or added to the sales team for the growth team or the upsell team, maybe you could talk about the contribution to that mid-single-digit growth for the existing book?

Aman Narang

Analyst

Sure. Thanks for the question. Look, I think we mentioned this in our last earnings call as well. Our -- as we optimize our land and expand motion, the new customers that are joining Toast, our sales team is optimizing the number of locations as well as the product attach rate. And so the ARPU is slightly lower. And then that's complemented with our upsell team. The upsell team then takes Toast teams that are regionalized that take over and are looking to drive attach rates across the product portfolio. I think if you look at, if you just zoom out for a second and think about the growth potential in the business, we're confident in our ability to continue to drive sustained ARR growth across both locations and ARPU. And I think -- and we believe both of those will complement each other. And so I think over time, as we continue to improve the capabilities across our product portfolio and improve our pricing and packaging and our upsell motion, there should be continued levers of growth for us into the future.

Tim Chiodo

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Aman. So, essentially, the new customer cohort will be a little bit of a drag on that mid-single-digit ARPU growth. More of the growth will be driven by the other two levers than the existing customers upsell and, of course, the pricing, is that the fair characterization at least for this year?

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes, I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think you think of pricing as a gradual lever, right, that complements both locations and price.

Tim Chiodo

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you so much.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Samad Samana with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Samad Samana

Analyst

Great. Good evening. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just on the international side. I know it's only 1,000 locations. But just as we think about that contributing more going forward, how does the average SaaS ARPU for those locations look versus maybe your broader installed base? And similar question, how does maybe GPV per location compare? And how should we think about that maybe evolving over time as you make more progress in the international markets?

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Yes. Thanks Samad for the question. So, first of all, as Aman said, we're really pleased with what we're seeing internationally. And we've really focused on the go-to-market motion. We've -- with our core platform, so we expect to add more elements to the platform. So, as a result of starting with the just the core elements of the platform. The ARPU is obviously lower. But as we add more to the platform, we should see it get closer to -- in the US. So, that's an opportunity for us. And even with platform we have, we've had a lot of great success. So we expect to add more of the platform in 2024. We'll see that play out over the next, obviously, several years in terms of the impact on ARPU. And in terms of the profile of customers, they don't look that different in the US.

Samad Samana

Analyst

Yes. Great. And then on the cost side -- sorry, go ahead. Go ahead.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Go ahead Samad.

Samad Samana

Analyst

I don't know, please. I'll let you finish that. I was going to go in a different direction.

Aman Narang

Analyst

I was just going to say, if you look at our business, the bulk of our net adds continue to come from our core SMB business, right? We've got -- we reach 1,000 locations over a couple of years. And as we build out the full platform internationally and see the improvements in our activities and unit economics, that's where we look at the pedal down even further. And so in terms of any changes to our mix across GPV and ARPU, you shouldn't expect that to be material in the short-term.

Samad Samana

Analyst

Understood. And maybe just on the cost side. I know that doing a reduction in force is a difficult decision. I guess, stepping away from headcount, are there any other cost savings measures that you're putting in place in addition to just the headcount reduction that we should be aware of that flows as the year progresses as well?

Elena Gomez

Analyst

We terminated a lease. But just in general, when you zoom out, Samad, I want to make this very clear, like the restructuring is one of many efforts that we've -- have been working toward efficiency for several quarters, right? We delivered over $175 million of leverage this year. And we're going to continue on across the company to operate in a very disciplined fashion. So you shouldn't see this as a onetime effort on efficiency, but just how we run our business.

Samad Samana

Analyst

Great. Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question will be from the line of Josh Baer with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Josh Baer

Analyst

Great. Thanks for the question. Two on restaurant retail, I guess, first, any context for the mix of locations that might have retail or the addressable GPV opportunity not currently on the platform?

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. Hey Josh, thanks for the question. As I mentioned earlier, like we have -- SMBs continue to drive the majority of our growth, and we see tremendous runway there. I think as we look at, in fact, a lot of the growth and expansion into restaurant retail was driven by our existing restaurants. Many of them also offer markets and grocery and wine and wanted a single platform across all these businesses. I think we do think that the GPV and ARPU potential in these businesses is stronger. But in terms of, you just zoom out and think about what's driving the bulk of our net adds, it's going to continue to be SMBs and over time, mid-market enterprise and international and then beyond that, retail, that's on retail.

Josh Baer

Analyst

Got it. And the follow-up in regard to retail, perhaps if you have a robust restaurant retail offering, you're part of the way there to more fully serving the retail vertical. Is that a TAM expanding opportunity that you're considering down the road? Thanks.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. I think so over time. Like if you just zoom out and think about our capabilities that we offer. We started in the restaurant vertical by building this purpose-built platform, that's exclusively built, and that's really what's allowed us to fail and gain market share to being one of the market leaders. As we think beyond this and expand the platform and the portfolio of products that we offer and the go-to-market engine that we have and the customer success engine that we have, we certainly think there's opportunity for us to expand beyond, but our focus right now is really in markets where food to serve, right? That's really, you're seeing these lines between restaurants and retail blur. And a lot of these concepts want a single system because they want a single back end that they can use, in fact all of this data, and that's where we're starting.

Josh Baer

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Next question is from the line of Darrin Peller with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Darrin Peller

Analyst

Thanks guys. I'd love to hear a little bit more about what's going so well on the enterprise side for a moment. Obviously, you brought up hotels in Caribou. Maybe just a little more color on your anticipation there and expectations for that for more progress to come. Maybe a bit more on product gaps or product opportunities that you see in that category that you can do some more work on and maybe even add ARPU on that front as well?

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the question, Darrin. Look, we're proud of the team's progress over the past year with new brands like, if you just look at Choice and Caribou, which I talked about in my prepared remarks. Marriott in expansion with existing like Nothing Bundt Cakes and MTY. Just we start investing in enterprise business just a couple of years ago. It's really great to see the progress we've made in a short period of time. And we're also seeing really good health pipeline and inbound requests from customers. But you got to keep in mind, these are enterprise customers, these are long cycles, and we want to be balanced also in terms of which customers we partner with, does not distract our R&D teams where a single customer has custom work that can take over product roadmaps. In terms of some of the capabilities in ARPU, I think -- it starts by building out some of the core capabilities, enterprise config management, publishing security, compliance, data APIs. And over time, like if you look at the reasons SMB choose Toast, all the platform capabilities in terms of in-store and things like handheld, for example, mobile order and pay and kiosk. We believe over time, a lot of those will be applicable in the enterprise market as well. But you should expect this to be a gradual continued momentum upmarket as we expand TAM as opposed to a step function change in terms of how we're gaining share.

Darrin Peller

Analyst

That makes sense. Maybe just a very quick follow-up is on the competitive landscape, meaning more for the SMB side, we obviously continue to hear about other companies talking about a certain type of pause that could be applicable to the restaurant space. But obviously, given the customer adds, you still continue to show strong traction. You don't notice in the competitive landscape as much. What are you, guys, seeing on that front the changes?

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. Look, I think this has always been a competitive market, right from day 1 when we started this business, and we continue to believe what we see in our data is as we execute and get into more of the markets, restaurants are still local. And the more share we get, the more social proof we have, the more the flywheel effect it creates. That's the most important trend that we see in our business. Our team obviously is tracking at win rates and competitive dynamics in the market. But that's really -- if you think of -- we've been at this for so long, and it's really -- we've built this vertically integrated platform and expanded it over time, and that's just really driving our growth. than anything else.

Darrin Peller

Analyst

Yes. Okay. Thanks guys.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our last question from the line of Dominic Ball with Redburn Atlantic. Your line is now open.

Dominic Ball

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for the question. Great job on execution when it comes to location growth, winning market share being clearly very, very strong. My question is, since the summer, you have been, shall we say, strongly taking price increases. I just want to make sure we get to try in terms of, how do you approach doing this? Is it raising software prices on old or new merchants? Is it on payment rate? Is it monetizing existing free products? Any more color on this would be great. Thank you.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. Thanks Dominic for the question. Look, as I said earlier, it's the last step then and look at the business, I think -- it's important to remember, pricing is an important lever, but it's one lever. And we want to make sure we're using it gradually as part of a broader strategy. One of the focus areas we continue to gain market share on scale is to look at opportunities where to continue to expand the terminal attach rates of the product that we have to drive ARPU is a really important driver of ARPU. In terms of the opportunity, specifically in pricing, you look at new customers that are joining our platform, what we see is across both SaaS payments, they're paying us more than our base. And so we do see opportunity over time to go back and build it as an ongoing lever as part of our growth algorithm to complement in location growth as well as product attached. And I think you should think, you should expect that to be gradual over time, starting with fintech this year and then SaaS in the out years.

Dominic Ball

Analyst

Yes, that's great. And just one more, if that's okay. I mean, your answer to another question around a potential expansion to the retail vertical. It is -- sort of that Toast for retail restaurant, is that a potential gateway in the future into certain retail merchants? Or is that -- is this too far for now?

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. As I said earlier, a lot of this was driven by our customer base. You've got our customers really pull us into these hybrid restaurant retail concepts because more and more of them offer not just the restaurant environment, but also they may offer packaged goods in a market, they may offer grocery, wine and so these lines are blurring. And the way our team thinks about, it is anywhere food to serve, we think that our platform that we built over the past decades offers us an opportunity to go create increments value for those customers and so we're starting there. And then I think over time, we'll look at where else Toast can be applicable.

Dominic Ball

Analyst

Yes, thanks guys and again, well done. Cheers.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That will conclude the Q&A session today. At this time, I will turn the call back over to the team for any final closing remarks.

Aman Narang

Analyst

Yes. Thank you everybody for your time today.

Elena Gomez

Analyst

Thanks everyone.

Operator

Operator

This concludes this conference call. You may now disconnect.