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TriNet Group, Inc. (TNET)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 26, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the TriNet First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Alex Bauer, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Alex Bauer

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon. My name is Alex Bauer, and I am TriNet’s Head of Investor Relations. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to TriNet’s 2023 first quarter conference call. I’m joined today by our CEO, Burton M. Goldfield, and our CFO, Kelly Tuminelli. Before we begin, I would like to address our use of forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. Please note that today’s discussion will include our 2023 second quarter and full year financial outlook and other statements that are not historical in nature, are predictive in nature or depend upon or refer to future events or conditions such as our expectations, estimates, predictions, strategies, beliefs or other statements that might be considered forward-looking. These forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations and assumptions and are inherently subject to risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances that are difficult to predict and that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today or in the future. Except as may be required by law, we do not undertake to update any of these statements in light of new information, future events or otherwise. We encourage you to review our most recent public filings with the SEC, including our 10-K and 10-Q filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock. In addition, our discussion today will include non-GAAP financial measures, including our forward-looking guidance for adjusted net income per diluted share. For reconciliations of our non-GAAP financial measures to our GAAP financial results, please see our earnings release, 10-Q filings or our 10-K filing, which are available on our website or through the SEC website. With that, I will turn the call over to Burton. Burton?

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Thank you, Alex. I am particularly pleased with our first quarter financial results, which exceeded the top end of our guidance. Importantly, we delivered strong operating performance by making progress on several of the key TriNet initiatives. Customer retention increased by three points year-over-year. New sales improved 20% year-over-year. Disciplined expense management coupled with our revenue performance translated to outperformance in earnings. Additionally, I am proud of the TriNet team for their execution with respect to the regional bank crisis and Silicon Valley Bank receivership. TriNet processes over $70 billion in payroll annually. We use our scale including our long-term banking relationships in service of our impacted customers. We did not miss a single payroll deadline. The TriNet team of over 3,000 colleagues is prepared for the unexpected, which benefits our customers and highlights the impact of our partnerships. During the first quarter, revenue remained healthy. Professional service revenues grew 6% year-over-year and total revenues grew 2% year-over-year both at the top end of our guidance. In the first quarter, GAAP earnings per share declined 2% year-over-year, outperforming guidance by $0.35, while adjusted net income per share also declined 2%, outperforming guidance by $0.29. Finally, we finished the first quarter with 328,000 ending WSEs. As outlined on our last call, our WSE volume is driven by three factors: retention, new sales and hiring in our installed base. Beginning with retention, we saw a 3-point year-over-year improvement in our retention rate in the first quarter. This was driven by a few factors. The large company attrition trend we experienced last year has abated. NPS scores continue to improve in part driven by the rollout of our tiered customer service offering which contributes to the reduced attrition. Finally, the scale of TriNet including our incremental product offerings offers value in ways that…

Kelly Tuminelli

Analyst

Thank you, Burton. The first quarter allowed TriNet to prove our ability to execute well across our business and continue to support our customers during this changing macroeconomic environment. In the areas we controlled, we did very well. During the quarter, TriNet prioritized its spend on our growth agenda and our customers driving both outperformance in new sales and improved overall customer retention. This discipline ultimately resulted in strong earnings performance and cash flow generation. I was very pleased that we delivered on the strong first quarter financial performance in the face of two distinct challenges. Number one, the regional banking crisis; and number two, the overall macro headwinds. I've been with TriNet now just over 2.5 years and in my time here, I've been impressed with our customers and how the TriNet team puts our customers at the center of everything we do. Part of this ethos is managing the unexpected on behalf of our customers and the regional bank crisis and Silicon Valley Bank receivership represented just that opportunity. The immediate risk for impacted PEO and HRIS customers was access to their corporate funds and making their payrolls. The TriNet team leveraged our banking partners assisted with alternative funding methods and helped our customers navigate the situation. The end result was none of our impacted customers missed a payroll or were asked to double-fund the payroll across our PEO and HRIS platforms. I'm extremely proud of the team. The second distinct challenge we faced in the quarter was our customer net hiring was modestly negative overall. This represents the second consecutive quarter where existing employment shrunk versus grew. The impact in the first quarter from the lack of hiring exacerbated the normal Q1 volume dip. As we described when we laid out our full year guidance, we did…

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Thank you, Kelly. Our first quarter financial and operating performance set TriNet up for a strong year. In the face of unexpected crisis, we delivered unparalleled value to our customers. We continue to expand our products and services in ways that are different from other HCM providers. Clarus R+D is a good example of this. We are investing in sales and sales force growth and we expect to leverage our new brand identity to drive growth. As always, we manage our company for profitable growth proving that you can invest in growth without sacrificing profitability. We are well positioned to build on our first quarter momentum throughout the year. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And the first question will be from Tien-Tsin Huang from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Hi, Tien-Tsin.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Hey, Burton, Kelly, Alex, thanks for all the detail as always. I guess Burton I'll ask if you don't mind on the new sales front 20% growth in ACV. Can you give us a little bit more? What's selling well? Is there anything to share anything that was surprising there? And generally speaking how does that translate into the P&L? I know we have to assume some assumptions going ahead. So any thoughts on the pipeline on top of that? Thanks.

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Absolutely. And thanks for the question Tien-Tsin. So first, our decision to continue to invest in sales is due to increased rep productivity is holding which has been really good. Success and scalability of the marketing lead generation and scoring process is also very good. And we're also seeing an increase in win rates from quote to win in terms of WSEs. And as you realize, we've spent a lot of years understanding this customer base. And we believe over the long-term, they're going to deliver tremendous value. Specifically to your question about what's going to happen in the future, I will say to you now that given my visibility into the pipeline for the second and third quarters and giving -- given the fact that deals are closing at a higher rate, I believe that we're on track to continue the growth that we are seeing in a year-over-year basis from a sales standpoint.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Great. And then just using that KPI is there a way to think about the impact on midterm revenue growth? I'm just trying -- I know there's a lot of moving pieces retention you went through that CIE. But in isolation thinking about new sales is there a rule of thumb to use on impact to revenue growth?

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Yeah. Look they're all -- obviously right now retention is another really great story. As Kelly said, it was up three points in the first quarter and that will have a big impact as well. From a sales standpoint, Kelly I don't know if you have a percentage. But it's still a smaller percentage of this year's revenue where it's really important is as it goes into 2024. So we will keep growing the sales force as long as productivity stays high. We're seeing high retention of the reps, and we're seeing a pretty good market even in the impacted areas related to the Bay Area in California despite the Silicon Valley Bank failure. So that's a whole other discussion I'm happy to have. But Kelly, anything specifically we can give Tien-Tsin on this increased sales run rate?

Kelly Tuminelli

Analyst

Not really Burton. And Tien-Tsin, I'll think about that as we think about the KPIs that we publish and how to think about it in terms of revenue. It is fully baked into our guidance. We haven't changed our view on sales. We do expect to have really strong sales. We have moderated our assumptions around CIE a little bit just given what we saw in the first quarter and have improved our retention assumptions. Just seeing really good results there.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Look it's encouraging. Glad to hear the new sales coming through. I'm sure you all are happy about it.

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

We are really proud of this quarter Tien-Tsin.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Yeah. No, I'm sure that's the case. So my quick follow-up, if you don't mind just on the EPS – yeah, the EPS raise the $0.63. Kelly is there a way to maybe unpack it a little bit more in terms of what the elements are? We obviously can calculate the beat the $0.29 beat. You mentioned higher interest income and then the lower ICR with the workers' comp outperformance. I don't know, if there's any change in OpEx outlook either. Is there any way, just maybe unpack that or decompose it for us? Thanks.

Kelly Tuminelli

Analyst

Well, you got all the elements right there Tien-Tsin. So you're right on. We did improve our interest income forecast about $50 million. That was about a $19 million increase from where we were at before. On the OpEx side, we rationalized our G&A costs so that we can invest in sales. So we absolutely baked in cost savings and efficiencies there. And related to the ICR health is right on track. And what we're really doing is we just built in the favorability from workers' comp. So not much of a change there. The other thing we slightly did is we're seeing stronger participation rates not by a lot by about 1%. But we did build in the benefit participation rates at about 1% higher, which also contributed to the benefit.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Got it. That's good stuff, well done. Thank you, guys.

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Thank you. We appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Andrew Nicholas from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Andrew Nicholas

Analyst

Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Wanted to follow-up on a few of your – Burton, wanted to follow up a little bit on some of your answers there. I guess the first one just in terms of kind of SVB fallout. Obviously, operationally everything went really well. I think it sounds like you were very proud of your efforts there. Were there any changes to kind of the sales cycle within March or even what you've seen in April? Obviously, 20% sales growth in the quarter would indicate you had some momentum anyway. But just given some of the commentary from a competitor of yours this morning just curious, what if any impact that had on the sales cycle?

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

So, it's a really good question. And let me break it down a little bit for you. So clearly SVB failure had an impact on the Bay Area tech ecosystem and obviously other areas. But interesting, we're not seeing it. We actually have a higher year-over-year win rate from quote to win in terms of WSEs as well as ACV. So we're selling value. We're not discounting. And in fact, our new sales in the Bay Area tech vertical have remained strong. But as I said in the prepared remarks what you have to do is look under the covers. It's not a general tech malaise, Andrew. What we're seeing is half of our tech customers are hiring and half of them are not. And then the other thing that is a big question mark in my mind which Kelly mentioned if you look at March CIE it is the highest-CIE month we've had since July of 2022. So I feel like we're coming back but it doesn't -- obviously one month doesn't make a trend. I'm excited to see what April brings. So January was bad. It's always bad but it was worse. February was better and March was darn good compared to the last nine months. I think we're in the right verticals. And obviously as Kelly said the bigger customers were impacted further. But the growth was between five and 50 and it was pretty dramatic, which leaves me to believe that the funded companies have a mission going after the product and they were not disrupted by the SVB or any other ecosystem issue. The bigger customers 100-plus certainly were. And the question is was it lack of access to capital or was it a great time to rationalize the current employee base as we move forward. But there's no question in my mind over the next couple of years we're in the right verticals and they will recover. But we did not see a significant impact from SVB. In fact the Bay Area was strong.

Andrew Nicholas

Analyst

That's helpful. Thank you. And then for my follow-up on your CIE assumption, it sounds like the professional services revenue line item is assuming a bit lighter CIE than what you had previously. Is the assumption still that you see a decent bit of growth in the second half, or just maybe unpack what that lower assumption looks like relative to the last quarter? Thank you.

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Yeah. Thank you. Kelly?

Kelly Tuminelli

Analyst

Yeah. I'm happy to take that Burton. And Andrew thanks for the question. When we look at last quarter, CIE was negative overall. We are expecting positive hiring particularly as we look towards June and you get college grads going into the workforce and we see interns and seasonal workers coming on board. So we're expecting positive CIE for the remainder of the year. But what we're really expecting is significantly lower than what we saw last year, what we've seen historically. The low end of our range is about the lowest we've seen over a decade.

Andrew Nicholas

Analyst

All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Jared Levine with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Jared Levine

Analyst

Thank you. I wanted to dig in a little bit more on the PEO bookings. So, you previously cited January bookings growth of 35% year-over-year and now with 20% overall in 1Q. Was there a notable deceleration in March, or was it pretty even in terms of that I guess let's call it softer back half of the quarter there?

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Yes, there wasn't a notable deceleration. The fact is and this is an operational issue we changed territories and teams on February 1st. January is actually the last month of the sales year. So, as we reorganized and put the new teams in place February and March are usually relatively slower. So, there was no surprises there. But as I said to Tien-Tsin from my vantage point, we have a pipeline to continue that growth at least through Q2 as it looks right now.

Jared Levine

Analyst

Okay, great. And then in terms of the sales force and your intentions to add headcount there, can you update us on the staffing levels of the sales force how that compared to also the beginning of the year? And then any change in terms of your hiring expectations over the year or even the timing of some of those headcount additions within the sales force?

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

The goal right now is to end the year significantly higher in total rep count. That will be based on two things, which is both retention. Obviously, there's a lot of momentum around the sales force and they won big in Q1. So, that certainly helps. And then the second is hiring of new reps. I would say by the end of the year; my expectation is roughly 20%-plus growth in sales headcount. But it is not on board yet. It will impact next year because I'd like to continue this momentum.

Jared Levine

Analyst

Great. If I could sneak in one quick one here on Zenefits -- revenue contribution? And are you still expecting around $50 million for the full year?

Kelly Tuminelli

Analyst

For Zenefits?

Jared Levine

Analyst

Yes.

Kelly Tuminelli

Analyst

Yes, right around that level is our expectation.

Jared Levine

Analyst

And the 1Q performance?

Kelly Tuminelli

Analyst

And 1Q was right around $12 million.

Jared Levine

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Burton M. Goldfield

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session and thus concludes today's call. Thank you very much for joining TriNet's first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect. Take care.