Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Tandem Diabetes Care's First Quarter 2024 earnings. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Susan Morrison, EVP and Chief Administrative Officer. Please go ahead.

Hello, everyone, and thanks for joining Tandem's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements. These statements reflect management's expectations about future events, our product pipeline, development time lines and financial performance and operating plans and speak only as of today's date. There are risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated or projected in our forward-looking statements. A list of factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied by any of these forward-looking statements is highlighted in our press release issued earlier today and under the Risk Factors portion and elsewhere in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K as updated by our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q. We assume no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or other factors. Today's discussion will also include references to a number of GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Non-GAAP financial measures are provided to give our investors information that we believe is indicative of our core operating performance and reflects our ongoing business operations. We believe these non-GAAP financial measures facilitate better comparisons of operating results across reporting periods. Any non-GAAP information presented should not be considered as a substitution independently or superior to results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Please refer to our earnings release issued earlier today and available on the Investor Center portion of our website for a reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measure. Leading today's call is John Sheridan, Tandem's President and CEO, who will be joined by Leigh Vosseller, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I'll now turn the call over to John.

Thanks, Susan, and welcome, everyone, to our call today. 2024 is off to an impressive start with a solid first quarter performance. We met key commercial milestones with a successful launch of multiple new products worldwide. We outperformed financially, demonstrating a return to growth, both in and outside the United States. Operationally, we are continuing to evolve the organization for scalable growth through investments in people, processes and technology. We are laying the foundation for 2024 to be a transformational year for Tandem, much like when we launched our first automated insulin delivery algorithm approximately 5 years ago. There is growing excitement across our company as we deliver on our strategy to bring greater choice and benefits to people living with diabetes worldwide. In the first quarter, we executed on expanding our robust portfolio of delivery devices that offer choice and sensor integration, applications and data management tools. Beginning with hardware, we marked another first for our company this quarter. We are now the only manufacturer offering multiple insulin pump form factors. This multi-platform approach is a value proposition that makes Tandem unique. We can provide people options in how they wear and operate their AID systems while benefiting from our #1 rated Control-IQ technology. Mobi took center stage this quarter, being the first miniature durable pump that delivers unmatched wearability and the freedom to disconnect. We continue to hear an overwhelmingly positive response from early users. The feedback is consistent between people new to pump therapy and those who are converting from competitive offerings. Our customers comment that they forget that they're wearing Mobi, how much they love the option to disconnect and that as a durable pump, it's more environmentally responsible than disposable devices. Health care providers highlight the benefit of being able to use the unpump button…

Thanks, John. As a reminder, unless otherwise noted, many of the financial metrics I will be discussing today are on a non-GAAP basis. For measures where there are differences, reconciliations from GAAP to non-GAAP results can be found in today's earnings release which is available on the Investor Center portion of our website. We are kicking off 2024 strong with a return to growth. Our worldwide sales in the first quarter grew 12% year-over-year to $193 million, with well over half generated through recurring supply and renewal revenue streams from our loyal customer base. In the U.S., it was an exciting quarter with our new product offerings, just beginning to take hold in the market and driving first quarter sales of $131 million on approximately 15,000 pump shipments. Our renewals continued to grow double digits year-over-year with strong capture rates from a larger number of warranty expirations. Shipments to new customers continue to slightly exceed renewal purchases. As expected this year, within that new customer population, we began to see a shift in mix towards more people coming from MDI. The launch of Mobi, in particular, outperformed our expectations, generating a high level of activity from both new and renewal customers in what is typically our lowest seasonal quarter of the year. Mobi was initially available in mid-February to only our direct customers, followed by our distribution network at the end of March. We saw a benefit in the quarter from customers who have been waiting for Mobi availability since last year. At the same time, we are also aware of customers who are still waiting for the availability of the G7 integration. I would like to note that we will not be breaking up shipment details between pump platforms nor by sensor integration. As a reminder, our Tandem Mobi…

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Steve Lichtman from Oppenheimer.

Congratulations on the quarter. A number of places to start here. But I guess, first of all, in terms of the initial feedback you're seeing from Mobi and also, in terms of what the split is -- I know it's early days between Mobi and t:slim. Just trying to get a sense of how this is starting to sort of apportion out in the field.

Steve, I will say that what we're hearing is that Mobi is redefining wearability. It's small and versatile and its size makes it so that it's light and people forget they actually have it on. And you can also disconnect. The HCPs, they like it because of the unpump bolus button and the performance of CIQ, and they also appreciate the fact that the wireless data uploads automatically to source. And so -- we're obviously just getting started. But as Leigh mentioned in the prepared remarks, we've absolutely achieved our commercial objectives. And we're really excited about the rest of the year, particularly as we introduce the G7 implementation in the spring. And it all comes and supports our early research that Mobi is a market expander because we have seen a growing number of MDI and competitive conversions interested in the product. So it's been a great start, and we're very excited about it.

And Leigh, you talked about pricing and coverage. So the implied price that we saw this quarter, which obviously did come in higher, is that a good price to use in the U.S. for the remainder of the year? And any color you can provide on your sort of initial discussions on pharmacy with Mobi would be helpful.

Sure. Yes. To the first part of the question on the average selling prices, that is a good baseline to use for the remainder of the year. We're very proud of what our team has accomplished in terms of getting price increases when they're talking to the payers on the DME side of it. But to your question on the pharmacy side, we also have active conversations underway. So the whole team is extremely busy right now, and Mobi is being well received. I think what I can say right now mostly is that we're happy to be past the question of if we can move into the pharmacy channel. Now it's just a matter of when. And so we look forward to giving updates on that progress at a future date.

Our next question comes from the line of Brooks O'Neil from Lake Street Capital Markets.

I just -- I want to be sure, Leigh, that I understand your comments about the impact of Tandem Choice. And in particular, was there any or what, if any, revenue was recognized in Q1 that was essentially a deferral from Q4?

Thanks for the question, Brooks. So understanding that this is pretty convoluted and how this works. But the way you can think about it is from a non-GAAP basis, you won't see any impact from Tandem choice, whether it's deferral of revenue or recognition of revenue associated with it. But on the GAAP side, what happened was when Mobi became available, eligibility ceased for people who were buying t:slim pumps. And so at that point, they're able to go ahead and pick Mobi or t:slim when they purchase their pump. So deferrals have stopped, and we accumulated $31 million in deferrals over the whole time period. When people start to make their election to switch, which will start in the coming weeks, we'll start to recognize those reversals, we'll recognize any fees that we receive and the cost to deliver the pump, but again, only in the GAAP financials. So the non-GAAP financials will be, I'll say, untainted by that program.

Okay. I'm not sure I understand it all, but that's probably normal for me. So I'll figure it out tonight. I appreciate those comments very much. I know we're excited about Mobi, I know we're excited about the sensor integrations. Let me just want to jump ahead and see if you have any updated comments on X3, Sigi, better AID, Mobi tubeless, when do you think we might begin to hear more about those? And how is the progress coming?

Well, Brooks, I think in our last call, what we said is we're not going to -- we're going to refrain from talking about dates on those products any longer for competitive reasons. But I will say that we're very happy with the progress, and we remain really excited about the commitment to the road map. And I think that there's really no change in our expectations from these products at this point in time. So the team is doing a great job. We're working very hard on these things, and we're going to bring them to market as quickly as we can.

Our next question comes from the line of Mike Kratky from Leerink Partners.

So a couple of months into the Mobi launch, can you just help us quantify what portion of the news starts? And once you overall came from Mobi and how that aligned maybe more anecdotally just with your own expectations? And then as you've gotten into 2Q, again, maybe just qualitatively how that's kind of track early on?

Sure. Thanks for the question. So when it comes to Mobi and its share, first of all, I'll start by saying it was available to a limited population. In the first quarter, we didn't launch it until middle of February, and we also started with just our direct customers. And so it was scaling up across the quarter and on into the second quarter. It did exceed our expectations in terms of the uptake that we saw this first quarter, and it was -- I would say healthy both with new customers and renewal customers. And as John mentioned a few moments ago, very much in line with our market research, what we were seeing from a demographics perspective. We're not providing any specific level of detail about the actual number of units. But needless to say, we're very excited about the opportunity that it's bringing for us.

And then maybe just a quick follow-up. In terms of the guidance you provided, can you just confirm that, that really isn't building in any additional credit for Mobi in the second quarter just based on the step-up?

Correct. And so it's the same philosophy that we started off the year with, in that we are basing the guidance mostly on the renewal opportunity that already existed, which is a nice growth for us because just the number of warranty expirations this year alone is stepping up more than 30% from last year. Also, it's predicated on the continuing supply sales across the year. When we thought about new pumpers, we thought about it from the perspective that we could deliver as many as we did last year. Now obviously, we've taken into consideration the overachievement in the first quarter. But for the remainder of the year, it's back to those baseline expectations. What we want to see are some sustainable trends. Right now, we see data points. We haven't even drawn a line on those yet, much less developed a trend. So we'll continue to evaluate that in the coming quarters before we start factoring in any incremental sales that come from those new products.

Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Blackman from Stifel.

I'm just going to ask more directly here. Just -- hoping you could give some indication of 1Q new patient growth? And if not precision, simply -- I mean, it does seem like there was new patient growth, but you also did have a price lift. Just any indication you can give us on at least the first quarter, whether you saw a new patient growth? And if you want to give us magnitude wouldn't mind that either. And then the follow-up question -- just throw it all out there at once. Just thinking about the P&L. I think the one number that sort of stood out to us with the SG&A number being less intense than we're modeling, I think we were anticipating stepped up spend for these new launches. So is this a timing item? Or is this sort of low $90 million is obviously with different cadence throughout the rest of the year. But is this sort of the right starting point? Or is there more incremental spend to come as you continue to roll out these new products?

Sure. I'll go back to the first question, which was new patient growth. And I'm going to speak to it in context of all pump shipments in the first quarter in the U.S. The information that we're able to share is that we did see new pump starts continue to exceed renewal pumps. And so when you look at the split of new versus renewal, new pumps were slightly above renewals. Within that new pump population, we've often discussed where they are coming from, and it usually has been a split of about 50-50 between the MDI conversions and the competitive conversions. This year, we expected to begin to see a shift more towards MDI, which makes a lot of sense considering that population is so much larger and all of our new products are really pointed towards meeting the needs of people who haven't chosen pump therapy before. So in the first quarter, we did start to see a slight shift in the MDI starting to outpace the growth in competitive conversion. So everything was as expected. We're really excited about how the quarter played out. Nothing really unusual to report there. And then turning to your second question, looking at SG&A. And so we did make investments in sales and marketing, in particular, thinking about the field. We had our global commercial meeting in the first quarter and really talked about the launch of the products. We also amped up our marketing spend. And the reason you probably don't see it increase as much as some of the investment actually did is because we continue to have cost efficiency programs in place where we've really focused on our customer service activities and a lot of automation, process improvement, leaning out some of those processes. And so those programs that we implemented last year are really starting to show their leverage, and they're allowing us to make more investments without growing operating expenses in total so much overall.

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Pasquale from Nephron Research.

Leigh, I wanted to follow up on the pricing commentary specifically OUS. I think you had talked about a $2,300 being the right place for the year there. It was higher in the first quarter closer to what we saw in '23. So I just wanted to double check, is '23 still where you think things shake out?

Sure. So 2023 in the first quarter, in particular, was unusually high from a pump perspective, that was back when we were undergoing the transition to our new European distribution center. So we didn't have a natural mix of all of our distributor customers ordering in that quarter. This quarter, it was, I would say, a little more normalized. And we expected that ASPs could look something like they did prior to the transition, which was more like the $2,300 mark. The mix was a little bit more favorable to us this time as well as we had some slight very modest foreign currency benefit there. But Otherwise, I would say for now, continue to think of the $2,300 is a good baseline, and then we'll continue to discuss any favorability to that across the year.

And then, John, I know we've barely gotten the first iteration of Mobi out of the gate here. But you've highlighted flexibility of this platform as a big selling point in its current incarnation. And so I'm curious whether the feedback you've gotten so far makes you think any differently about the need to offer a true tubeless configuration of this product, if there's enough daylight between what you've got now and what you were thinking about with that to this chassis to really make it additive.

Yes. I mean I think that you're right. We're very excited about the feedback we've gotten so far. But we do believe having a tubeless version of Mobi will only drive additional demand for the product. And so we absolutely intend to continue to develop it. I can tell you that we've got -- we've made a lot of good progress, and it looks awesome. And I think that people when they see it and understand what it's going to do. It just gives people the full opportunity to wear a tubed or tubeless and anywhere they'd like. So very excited about it, and we definitely continue to invest and then develop it.

Our next question comes from the line of Matthew O'Brien from Piper Sandler.

Maybe John, for starters. The comments you made about Mobi and expanding the market, I thought was interesting, just given what we've seen with OP5 in the space. Where do you think you guys are expanding the market? And are you -- is it more head-to-head with OP5 in terms of maybe pediatric patients or something along those lines? Or is it something completely different where just a group of patients that historically wanted something with tubing with maybe better algo and a better form factor that you're able to access now that you couldn't before?

Yes, I think it's a little bit early for us to actually start to talk about specific groups that are beginning to use the product. I think what we can say is that over the last 18 months, certainly, OP5 has taken more of the MDI starts than we have had historically. And I think what we believe Mobi is going to do, it's going to help us return to where we were and maybe we don't get all the way back to a 50-50 split, but we certainly think that we're going to take more of the MDI starts that we have over the last 18 months. And I think the early data suggests that. And I think that what we're hearing is that people -- the physicians that are actually prescribing it, they believe that they've got an option to OP5 now. They've got something they could show people that actually has roughly the same form factor and has a lot of advantages and has a really good algorithm. So I think what we have the t:slim out there was -- the comp was difficult. But with Mobi now in the market, I think they've got something that stands up very strongly again. And we think that as we get to the tubeless version, it's even better.

And then the follow-up is just -- I know it's early and I don't want numbers, but just the feedback or interest level from Abbott freestyle users in terms of starting on t:slim and is it something that you're starting to see a little bit of traction in? Or do you need L3 before you start to really access that patient population?

Yes. I mean I'll say that, first of all, we're really excited about the integration with Freestyle Libre 2 in the U.S., and we're now working on Freestyle Libre 3 for U.S., OUS and both t:slim and Mobi. But it's early in the launch process. We've certainly seen uptake and we've talked to a number of people who have used -- who are currently using the Freestyle sensors, and there are definitely a lot of people who are what we call near-term pumpers, people who are interested in the product, interested in the benefits of an AID system. But it's a different situation, it's a market development opportunity. It's a new market, and we have to work with Abbott to develop it, which includes training and marketing and informing the customers and HCPs on the benefits. So it's early, but the work is underway, and I think we're really excited about the partnership. And I think it's going to have a meaningful long-term impact on our growth as a business.

Our next question comes from the line of Larry Biegelsen from Wells Fargo.

Leigh, I wanted to ask first about international. We typically don't see Q2 sales below Q1. So how much was shifted from Q4 of last year into Q1 of this year? And you shipped 45,000 pumps internationally in 2021 and 2022. Is there any reason you can't achieve at least this year given you're starting to see some benefit from renewals? And I had one follow-up.

Sure. So from an OUS perspective, we didn't quantify it specifically, but pointing to the fact that we are guiding to a step down from Q1, you can kind of get an idea of how much those shifted orders, I guess, I would say, were valued. And so what we saw were one large distributor in particular and a few others, moved orders from the fourth quarter into the first quarter of this year, waiting for G7 to be available on the pumps. And so that was more of a one-timer, which is my I would look to Q2 as being what I would say, a more normalized run rate for what pump shipments would look like. And so in terms of just opportunity outside the U.S. and you asked about comparison to the past few years, we still see a large and growing opportunity there, not just from bringing up our renewal customers. But the market is so vastly underpenetrated and with the products that we have today and the products we are expecting to launch, we expect to continue to grow even in that new population, so expanding the market with MDIs and more competitive conversions. So we're looking forward to growing that business outside the U.S. even further.

And John, CMS is hosting the MEDCAC meeting, I think, on May 21 on health -- outcome studies for devices in type 1 and type 2 insulin-intensive patients. What are your expectations for the meeting? And specifically, what could this mean for the potential pump NCD review?

I'll let Leigh answer that.

Yes. So Larry, it's interesting, right? So we see this as a very positive move. The fact that they are reviewing the end points and inviting the diabetes community to come in and speak about it from the manufacturer's perspective. And so you can guarantee that we're going to have representatives there talking about the wealth of data that we've accumulated and what we think is the best way to look at those end points. And we think it's positive because that NCD is sitting out there, and it's expected to be reviewed and so we hope that this is a positive step in that direction that we'll hear something on that in the near future. But for now, there's nothing that says they're directly tied, but we're optimistic that this will be beneficial for us in the long term.

Our next question comes from the line of Danielle Antalffy from UBS.

Leigh and John, just a question on what you're seeing from a market growth perspective. I mean we all run surveys. Our survey is actually quite bullish on what we're seeing from a market growth thinking installed base more than anything perspective here in the U.S.? I mean based on our survey, it looks like it's tracking high teens, which I know sounds quite high relative to historical averages. Any comments there? I mean, are you seeing acceleration here given the number of integrated pumps out in the market, how technology has evolved over the last 5 years. Any comments there would be helpful. And then, of course, how sustainable that is? Or could it actually accelerate even further?

Yes. Great question, Danielle. And it's really hard to put a fine point on the numbers specifically trying to triangulate what everyone's reporting based on that information. But what we think today is by the time we exited 2023, that pump penetration had grown to nearly 40% in the type 1 population, and that was up from mid- to high 30% range in 2022. And so the market has seemed to have grown every year probably since about 2018. And we point to the advancement in technology. So if you think about the CGM advancements, you think about the algorithm advancements. And so we have every reason to believe that with the new product portfolio that we're offering, that will continue to grow in the future. And so we have great expectations for what this portfolio that we offer will bring to the market and how we'll be attracting new patients. And so we expect continued growth in 2024 and the long term.

And how important to that growth is the business model here? So you guys are -- it looks like making progress on the pharmacy channel. But how critical is that piece of it?

Yes. I do think it's important. There's a couple of factors. I mean, one really is the product portfolio, particularly for us, as we continue to offer choice and wearability. It gives people -- we're going to be meeting the needs of more people who haven't chosen pump therapy before. So to flip that around from a second ago that 60% of type 1, 60% of almost 2 million people haven't chosen pump therapy today. So we've got to figure out how to meet the needs of what they want in order to use from a product perspective. The business model will certainly complement that because improving the access, lowering the out-of-pocket will make a great difference in affordability for people. And so that's why we're focused on both pathways. And I think that they will work together to drive business for us and grow the market overall.

Our next question comes from the line of Matt Taylor from Jefferies.

I was hoping you could spend a minute on type 2 and maybe give us an update on what you're seeing any type 2 trends? I'm curious what you would say to an investor who might be worried about GLP-1s impacting the type 2 opportunity. And then given you have now enrolled your trial, could you talk about when the data could come out, what that could show in the potential for type 2 to be a growth driver in the future?

Sure. Well, Matt, I think recently, we just published some data from an early study we did on type 2. And there was a significant percentage of the people in the study were using GLP-1s. And when they started the study, they had to be on for at least 6 months and they had to have insulin-intensive type 2. And all of them were using MDI and none of them were achieving their diabetes objectives. They all have high A1cs. And after they started using Control-IQ, they actually required less insulin, and they dropped their A1C substantially. So we believe that Control-IQ, the AID systems that are out in the marketplace today. And when it comes to the type 2 population are complementary to the use of the GLP-1s. And I don't think we believe that it's going to have a substantial impact on the need for insulin, particularly in these groups where they do use a lot of insulin. I would say that the study is, as you say, it's nearly complete -- it's nearly enrolled. It's a 3-month study. We're certainly going to try to get through it as quickly as we can. I think that it's possible that at the end of this year, when you look at some of the fall conferences that we might have some data to present at those but we'll just have to wait and see. There are some unpredictability about it. But I think that we are definitely getting ready internally. We're preparing the organization. We're developing our commercial strategy and we're definitely getting ready to be very active in the type 2 space.

Our next question comes from the line of Joanne Wuensch from Citi.

This is Anthony on for Joanne. On the guidance for EBITDA breakeven this year, does that imply some sort of volume or user base going through Mobi to hit that just given the lower COGS profile or are you sort of able to hit that irregardless of how many patients you've got on Mobi this year?

Yes, great question. So Mobi is unique in this year and that -- not unique necessarily, but because we're at lower volumes and still scaling, we're not going to see that great gross margin benefit that we expect to see in the years beyond. And so this year, at the beginning, it's a bit of a headwind in the back half of the year, it starts to become accretive, but really 2025 is when we expect it to make a difference. And so I would say that our goal of breakeven this year is somewhat independent of Mobi in this first scaling phase. But we're monitoring closely, and we're also paying attention to our investments to make sure we're investing in an appropriate way to drive the top line but still achieve that breakeven target.

Got it. Helpful. And then can you just talk about what you're seeing in the competitive environment, OUS, just as Omnipod 5 starts to ramp a little bit more here?

Yes. I would say that the competitive environment OUS is within our expectations. I mean, we certainly -- there's the two large players are on the market and have been in the market for a while. I think that Omnipod is getting into new markets. We also -- there's also another competitor out there, Ypsomed that's getting into the markets as well. There's more noise, OUS for sure, I would say that there's also a lot of variability because it's not homogeneous. There's multiple different markets and the competitive environment is different in many of them. So I think that right now, what we're focused on is really getting our technology into the OUS markets. We're really focused on bringing everything that we've got here in the U.S. to the OUS markets as quickly as possible. We think that will be a significant competitive response to what's going on there. And so there's things happening this year and next that are exciting. And we're also expanding the size of our footprint, OUS by adding people in the markets who are in country, who can support the distributors and also work closely with our KOLs so that people are aware of the technology and the company's goals in terms of where we're going. So I know it's a really important market for us. I think that we've got a lot going on. We're excited about it and stay tuned.

Our next question comes from the line of Jayson Bedford from Raymond James.

Congrats on the quarter. Leigh, I thought I heard you mention some benefit from U.S. customers waiting for Mobi. And I got the impression that this was separate from the Mobi Choice dynamic. I guess, first, is that correct? And if so, is there a way to quantify this benefit? And then I'll ask my second one upfront here. Typically, you give an installed base of users, do you have that number for this quarter?

Great. Yes. So with the first question, Jayson, there were two dynamics in the first quarter. we had benefit from people who had been waiting for Mobi from last year. And so that really helped the quarter, but we also know of and saw that people were waiting to buy their Mobi in the second quarter from G7. So it's a little bit of both in the first quarter. And so we -- it's going to be -- that's why at this point, we're not talking about real trends because we're not going to see a normalized quarter probably for another quarter or two until we get fully launched with the G7 integration. But I would say if you take it away from not just the numbers, but just the level of enthusiasm and excitement, it's been really buzzing around the company, people calling in. There's a lot of activity, everyone is interested in the product. And so we'll be excited to see how that settles out into a normalized pattern. When it comes to the installed base, you're right, we didn't comment to it specifically this quarter. It's really a simple 4-year rolling pump shipment calculation, which for end of first quarter would have put us at about 460,000 customers worldwide. And it puts us at 315,000 in the U.S. and about 145,000 outside the U.S.

Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Johnson from Baird.

Leigh, maybe just a couple of cleanups or clarifying questions at this point. On the pricing side, would we expect in the U.S. pricing for both Mobi and t:slim to be at these elevated levels, they're both at similar levels going forward? And was that price increase contemplated when you first gave guidance for 2024 last quarter?

Yes. So yes to both questions, pricing is the same for t:slim and Mobi. And the pricing benefit that we saw this quarter is really a lot of work across all of last year from our market access team negotiating price improvements with various payers and going in and talking about Control-IQ, the value proposition, and we're really just seeing it all come to fruition this quarter. And so that it's roughly the 4,000 mark for pumps you can assume for the rest of the year, and it's very much in line with what we used in our guidance expectations.

Okay. And then I was hoping you could maybe help me triangulate pump number in the U.S. a little bit better. So you've said two things, you've said that new starts a little bit higher than renewals. And then you've said that the split was a little bit higher to new starts as well. And not to parse words, but if I felt like a 55-45 split on your 15,000 U.S. number, I get like a 1,500, obviously, that's the math for the 15,000 patient difference between new starts and renewals. If I take your word that is just a little bit higher in patient numbers in new starts versus renewals, like maybe there's a 500 split. Can you help us titrate? I mean, was the split between new users and renewals, a few hundred patients, 1,000 patients, just anything so we can keep our model kind of going as we built out on these new starts versus renewals over the years? I would appreciate anything you can give there?

Yes. I mean really, it's just slightly more than half when you think about it from a new perspective. And so it was a good outcome from what we had been seeing last year and Mobi really helped drive that. And in our other new sensor integrations were also beneficial to it. And we expect over time that Mobi and the new products will continue to drive more in that new population. And keep in mind, renewal stepped up pretty significantly double digits this quarter like we've been seeing last year because of the growing opportunity base there. But I would say just roughly new is just a little more than half.

And our next question comes from the line of Josh Jennings from TD Cowen.

I was hoping to just follow up on Matt's question on the type 2 study and that indication. I think, John, you've mentioned in previous discussions about potentially, if all goes well, being able to commercialize next year in that type 2 insulin intensive spot. I was hoping if you could just walk us through again, assuming all goes well with the data and we get into next year, just from the data and there's the submission then there's coverage, and any just timing that we should be thinking about in terms of potential to commercialize on that indication next year? And then just Mobi coming on Board for that indication as well, what are the steps that are acquired?

Sure. I think that the timing is we said we're about a month away from complete enrollment. And then we have, it's approximately a 3-month study. So that takes us -- and then we've got to prepare the clinical report and we've got to get it into the FDA. The FDA has seen this product now multiple times. And I think that the results are actually fantastic with the type 2 community. So I really feel that it's going to be a 2025 product. It's just difficult to predict when. I think that the commercial team is ready. We're getting all of the strategies set up so that in terms of just the sales messaging, et cetera. But from a reimbursement point of view, it's already being reimbursed, and I don't think that's going to be a challenge for us. I think that we will be reimbursed as soon as it's available. And once the Control-IQ algorithm is approved for type 2, you can use it on any interoperable pump. And so both t:slim and Mobi are interoperable pumps. So we will introduce it on both products simultaneously.

And our next question comes from the line of Travis Steed from BofA.

I'll ask both upfront. Just a quick clarification on the full year guidance. I think before you'd said new starts growth would be flat to slightly down this year. Just curious if you're still expecting new patients is to be flat to slightly down at this point, given what you're seeing with Mobi. And then in the U.S., it looks like the ASP at least in our model, consumables were a little lower than they had been. I don't know if that's a trade-off higher pump ASP. Just curious if there's something going on, on the concession side there? Just any color there would be helpful.

Sure. From a guidance perspective, I'm still thinking about along the lines of new starts being flat to slightly down, I would say, barring the outperformance we had in the first quarter because that's where that came from. But the way the guidance was structured initially, it's still with those thoughts in mind for the remainder of the year. And until we see some sort of trend that we can build models off of. We won't be informing anything new to guidance for the new products. So probably, at least not for another quarter or two When it comes to your question on supply, nothing unusual from the U.S. perspective on the supply side. Supply sales grew roughly in line with the installed base growth. We continuously monitor activity in the installed base in terms of who's using the product, if we see any different signs of attrition, and we haven't seen any changes in that regard. So it's probably just noise in your numbers.

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Polark from Wolfe Research.

I just have one on this potential shift into the pharmacy channel. Leigh, I heard you say it's no longer a question of if, but when. I'm interested philosophically on how you think about managing this because as I look at it, it's a potential for a license to subscription conversion, taking a big upfront revenue recognized amount and spreading it over some period of time. So how do you think about managing that? And when you say it's a question of when, is that suggesting you will have a lot of room to manage this, if this is a desirable channel? Or is the when more just, hey, now we have to get in front of payers and get contracts up and running. Any color on this would be great.

Sure. A lot of good questions there. Probably, first, I should start off just saying what is our primary goal for pharmacy channel. And number one, it's increasing access for patients and reducing out-of-pocket cost. Number two is when we look at the economics, it should be at least as good as or better than what we see in DME today. And what pharmacy provides for us is a unique opportunity when we think about the business model, and it will allow us to shape it in a way that could look different from DME, but also it could look just like DME. . And so in some cases, I think we're going to see variability payer by payer and PBM by PBM in terms of how that shapes up. And so when we think about that in the longer term, I would say we are being very selective about which contracts we take, which ones are going to be good for the business. Just considering all options with what it comes down to it. And so we don't think this will be materially disruptive to our top line. It's going to be a multiyear build. And remember, it's focused on Mobi only. So it's not touching the whole business altogether. And so we're really excited for it. We think it will be really good for the business. And stay tuned. We look forward to giving updates as we have more conversations with payers.

Our next question comes from the line of Matt Miksic from Barclays.

Congrats on a really terrific quarter here. So first, I know someone had asked earlier about guidance, I just wanted to make sure we understand how you're thinking about going about it. And then I have one follow-up on guidance. Just sticking to the plans renewal only, not yet sort of making any bold predictions about Mobi, is that -- did that begin in Q2? Do you think to begin in Q3? When do you think you'll have enough to know on that front. A color there, I guess, given that things seem to be picking up pretty quickly. And then I had one follow-up.

Sure. So it is the same philosophy for guidance now as when we started the year. The only difference is that the outperformance we had in the first quarter, we've now added into the guidance for the remainder of the year. So still heavily based on the renewal opportunity that we have in front of us, the increasing supply sales. And from a new pumper perspective, we want to see more trends. And so thinking about Mobi and watching it through its launch. It's a staged launch, and so we started with direct customers only, just shifted to the distribution channel at the end of the first quarter. G7 integration won't come until late in the second quarter. And so that's causing impact on customer behavior on when they're making their pump purchases. So I think we probably need at least third quarter to kind of see how things settle in. The exciting part about it all is through all of this, even though it's limited data, the data points tell us that things are in line with our market research. And so we think there's great opportunity here, but we're going to be reluctant to factor anything into the guidance until we can feel more confident about how it settles out.

And then just the other question is a more, sort of general one. I think someone else again had asked earlier in the call about like where you're expanding the market? Where you're maybe more -- seeing more traction, but anything that you can. If you're seeing a pattern of one of these folks really seem to gravitate towards one of the two platforms or the other. And then also came up on the call is it often does this idea of tubes and tubeless. And I know that you have a somewhat different philosophy about the product portfolio that you're building out and how you think about defining your pump offerings and around tubeless or wearability, if you can maybe kind of more broadly expand on your philosophy there as you kind of get through tubeless Mobi and into Sigi.

Yes. Matt, I think when you look at the data that we've collected so far, of course, we're paying very close attention to it. We know the age, we know how long people have had diabetes. We know all of the characteristics of the people who are using Mobi at this point in time. But as Leigh had said, it's really been the stage launch, and it hasn't been out there yet, long enough, I think, for us to draw any conclusions. We're very excited about how many people are coming to use Mobi from MDI, which we think is a real positive. But it's a bit too early for us to say, here are some of the characteristics of the people because I don't think it would be reflective. And I'm afraid that after we get more people on it in a quarter or so, it might change. So just stay tuned, and we'll definitely keep you informed about how it looks, and we'll just go from there. And then when it comes to our portfolio approach, we think that it's important to provide people Choice. Choice and how they wear, how they control and how they interact with the product. And our research suggests that there are distinct groups of people out there with type 1 and type 2 that want a pump, that has a controller on it, that has the interface on the system. That's small and gives you another device, Mobi, that gives you the flexibility of various wear options, mobile control and great outcome performance. And then finally, a complete tubeless system that's a very wearable and rechargeable system. So our research suggests that those are all meaningful market segments and that and we intend to continue to pursue that. Each of them are different and I think that -- we think that's the right strategy. And I think that it resonates with a lot of the people we are talking about as we do this research.

Thank you. This does conclude the question-and-answer session as well as today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Good day.