Yes, absolutely. Thanks for the question, Michael. As far as pace, we saw a good strong pace, actually up significantly year-over-year with our first-time buyers. Our highest pace was with our move-up buyers. But pretty close, honestly, when I compare the 2.
When I talk about the affordability of the first-time buyer, I don't think, given what's happened to pricing, interest rates, just general inflation, that this should be a surprise. I think it's very consistent with what we're hearing from others. There's a number of different stats I could share that really show the meaningful difference.
When I look at Q1, we generally saw rates down, as you know, and then they started moving up a little bit as we moved into the end of the quarter and into April. When I look at our backlog, it's kind of a proxy for the impact to a first-time buyer. And I look at what if rates were compared to our closing interest rate, average closing interest rates, if we look at our backlog, as of the end of the quarter and rates moved to 7.5%, the impact to a conventional buyer is modest.
I mean, they move from a DTI of just over 39% to just over 40%. And their payment moves modestly to, let's say, $275, but their average income is $17,600. If I compare that to an FHA buyer, where their average income is $11,200, and rates moved to 7.5%, their payment would go up $468, and that's on a lower loan amount.
And their DTIs would be somewhat stressed, going from 46% to 51%. So obviously, with this large pool of affordable buyers and first-time buyers, that gives us the opportunity to work with lots of different customers to get them to that place, but it just takes a little more dollars, because they just don't have another lever to pull. They don't have more dollars they can bring in for a down payment. They are highly dependent on gift funds compared to our overall buyer group. So just a couple of examples.