Well, I wouldn't say, it's been out of this world. But we -- as I've said previously, we are talking to a number of automakers and it served us very well by not entering into those agreements previously, because, of course, customers want to secure an economic benefit if you're -- if they're the first in or if you're some years away from production. But every day that we get closer to production, and of course, world events as they have unfolded have started to make automakers panic just a little bit a sense. And it's not just automakers, of course. It's other industries that are looking to secure the supply of these materials, including, of course, the intermediate players. But I would say we're feeling pretty confident about where we sit at the moment, Malcolm. And we're not panicking about trying to get a deal done for the sake of getting a deal done. We've been very deliberate about saying we will do the right deal at the right time. And of course, every day that goes by, we are gathering more and more environmental data, which we're sharing as soon as we can because it's consistent with our belief that making battery metals from these polymetallic nodules comes at a much lower environmental and societal costs. And so the more that we get hold of those results, the more confidence not only gives us, but of course, our customers. And so consistent with what I said before, I'm sure, by the end of this year, I'm confident by the end of this year that we will have one of those consumer-facing brands to mark down as one of our customers. And of course, having the Epsilon Carbon partnership is also really important to us because as part of the arrangement, and we spent some really quality time working with Vikram's team over the last many months. And more recently, we toured his facilities in India there's a real focus in his organization about ESG. There's a real focus on efficiency. There's a real focus on automation. And we really feel confident that with their relationship with the JSW Steel Group as well, that it's a reminder that our manganese product is just so important as a stable to any growing economy. We all talk about battery metals, but the manganese, of course, is required to make every ton of steel on the planet. And as I mentioned in my presentation, we're now seeing the EV industry look at using more manganese and battery cathodes as well. And so that's very encouraging for us and for the industry as they try and control costs that are moving in raw materials that are in short supply.