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Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, Oct 30, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Catherine, and I will be your conference operator today. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Timken's Third Quarter Earnings Release Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Mr. Frohnapple, you may begin your conference.

Neil Frohnapple

Analyst

Thanks, Catherine, and welcome, everyone, to our third quarter 2020 earnings conference call. This is Neil Frohnapple, Director of Investor Relations for The Timken Company. We appreciate you joining us today. Before we begin our remarks this morning, I want to point out that we have posted presentation materials on the company's website that we will reference as part of today's review of the quarterly results. You can also access this material through the download feature on the earnings call webcast link. With me today are The Timken Company's President and CEO, Rich Kyle; and Phil Fracassa, our Chief Financial Officer. We will have opening comments this morning from both Rich and Phil before we open up the call for your questions. [Operator Instructions] During today's call, you may hear forward-looking statements related to our future financial results, plans and business operations. Our actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors, which we describe in greater detail in today's press release and in our reports filed with the SEC, which are available on the timken.com website. We have included reconciliations between non-GAAP financial information and its GAAP equivalent in the press release and presentation materials. Today's call is copyrighted by The Timken Company and without expressed written consent, we prohibit any use, recording or transmission of any portion of the call. With that, I would like to thank you for your interest in The Timken Company, and I will now turn the call over to Rich.

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Thanks, Neil. Good morning. And thank you all for joining us for our third quarter call. Timken delivered a solid third quarter as we experienced sequential strengthening of the second quarter above our expectations across most end markets and geographies. Strengthening markets combined with strong growth in renewable energy and the BEKA acquisition resulted in sales up 11% from the second quarter and down just 2% from the third quarter of last year. We delivered solid EBITDA margins of over 19% with good operating performance, positive price, and benefits cost reduction initiatives all contributing to the results. Earnings per share of $1.13 were down just $0.01 from last year. We reduced inventory in the quarter and generated over $120 million in free cash flow. Overall, given where we and our customers were early in the second quarter, the third quarter was a solid rebound and strong performance by Timken. To expand further on revenue, the trend of sequential strengthening that we began to experience in May continued through the third quarter. The general statement the markets that were the most depressed in the second quarter was the strongest in the recovery. Automotive, truck, India, and highway equipment are all examples of markets that were extremely depressed in early Q2 and have been improving sequentially since then. Our strategy to increase our presence in renewable energy markets continue to pay off with very strong year-on-year growth in both wind and solar again this quarter. China also remained a bright spot as the country continues to be significantly less impacted by the Coronavirus than most of the rest of the world. India, defense, marine and Ag were also solid in the quarter. The BEKA acquisition contributed about 3% to the top line. Outside the markets just mentioned most other markets were down…

Phil Fracassa

Analyst

Okay. Thanks Rich. And good morning, everyone. For the financial review, I'm going to start on slide 14 of the materials. Timken delivered solid performance across the board in the third quarter. And you can see a summary of our results on this slide. Revenue for the third quarter was $895 million, down 2% from last year, and up 11% sequentially from the second quarter. We delivered an adjusted EBITDA margin of 19.4% and adjusted earnings of $1.13 per share, just shy of last year's record third quarter earnings. Turning to slide 15, let's take a closer look at our third quarter sales performance. Organically sales were down about 5% with most of the year-on-year declines coming in mobile industries. While pricing was positive in both segments, the BEKA acquisition added approximately 3% to the top line and the quarter while currency was roughly neutral. On the right-hand side of the slide, we outline organic growth by region. So excluding both currency and acquisitions. Let me comment briefly on a few regions. In Asia, we were up 29% in the quarter. Our sales in China increased significantly versus the prior year, due mainly to strong growth in renewable energy. Sales were also up year-on-year in India, as the country continues to recover from the COVID related shutdowns impacted in the second quarter. In both North America and Europe, most factors were still down versus the prior year. But the rate of decline improved meaningfully compared to the second quarter. Sequentially, we saw solid improvement from the April lows, and we benefited from strong recovery in sectors like automotive and heavy truck, which were hit especially hard during the second quarter. Turning to slide 16 adjusted EBITDA was $174 million, or 19.4% of sales in the third quarter, compared to $181…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll go first to Robert Wertheimer of Melius Research.

Robert Wertheimer

Analyst

So I've seen some good and steady results. Really the renewable side is becoming more material is pretty exciting. And I wondered if you could just give a little bit of commentary breaking down the growth either as whether you're expanding in new geographies or new customers, new sources of growth, and how that continue to expand? And then Rich for my other question would just be, as you look to next year, now if you're going to deploy capital, given what you've proven out this year, how much do you factor in your own stock price when you sort of think about the tradeoffs on acquisition? Thanks.

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Yes. So on the renewable side; really break out year for us for probably about a decade of activity in the space on wind and a couple of years on solar. And clearly helping to mitigate weakness in other markets, it would have been great if, it would have additive to other strong markets. As you know, we've really built what I would say is a full bearing portfolio, if you look back 10 years ago, we really weren't in the turbine, then we really started into gear drives, which was our wholesale technology, sweet spot. And then we've really expanded across the entire platform with rated bearings now up to several meters in diameter, I would say our pipeline of, this is mostly OEM revenue for us and it's engineered or product, it's not something that's substituted, it's not something if you're in the design, you're going to be in the design for some period of time. I would say our forward-looking platform wins over the next couple of years is stronger than it's been at any point in time. So I think our penetration in the growing market is going to continue to improve. And then we knew this year was set up to be a big year, particularly in China and Asia. That's happening and a little concerned about Asia, leveling off or declining a little for next year that situation is improved through the first three quarters of the year, our backlog is strong to start the next year and really out probably through the middle of next year. We continue to be, I'd say disproportionately weighted towards Asia, from end market mix with China being the predominance of that. China's been very consistent in their commitment to moving more to renewable energy, and it's been…

Robert Wertheimer

Analyst

Yes, thanks, rich. So that was a very comprehensive answer. And it's pretty exciting what you've done. Question was just I mean, you've accomplished a lot this year; your stock price is not super high. And I wonder just philosophically how you weigh buybacks versus M&A. You mentioned the preference for M&A. I don't know whether the valuation comes into play or not.

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Well, valuation definitely comes into play and certainly agrees with your comments on our stock price and certainly believes that share buyback is, well, share buybacks is very accretive and makes the bar for M&A high. That being said, I think the results that we are delivering this year would not be what they are, had we not, had we sat out completely in the M&A market the last few years. So we always look at the epic comparison, we have the bar established for that. And I think the likely answer going forward is going to be sum of both like it has been looking backwards.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Stephen Volkmann of Jefferies.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys. Thank you. Can we, I think you mentioned, Rich, a couple of times in your comments about distribution, industrial distribution. Can you just dive into that a little bit more for us? Are you seeing that business improving as well? How do you think the inventory situation is there? And do you think 2020, your comments about five, six quarters into a downturn is 2021 potentially setting up for more of a restock year and distribution?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Yes. So I would say distribution was among our weaker sequentially performing parts of the business from Q2 to Q3. Part of that was it declined later, it held on well into April and the declines a little later. So the second quarter was not as weak as automotive and truck and some other markets. But we really didn't see globally net any strong improvement I think for us, much of that is due to destocking. So as you look at our US distributors that are publicly as a benchmark of that they both lowered inventory in the quarter and their sales were down low double digits; so when you compound low double digits with some inventory reduction year-on-year for us, it's pretty weak. We had - we expect further inventory reductions in the fourth quarter. We don't think inventories way off and they made those comments as well publicly that but they continue to see some slight greater sell-through than then purchases, some inventory reduction. So we see that likely for the fourth quarter as well. And I think it depends on demand. But certainly, the opportunity is I think is greater for restocking than destocking as you get past the first quarter of next year in those channels.

Stephen Volkmann

Analyst

Okay, thanks. And does this sort of surprise you at all? Because you've seen other cycles but the kind of consensus around all these end markets as things are improving kind of quarter-over-quarter, month-over-month. And we've heard a fair amount about some tight levels of inventory and some of the end products through this. And yet we seem to be destocking in the channel. It just seems like there's disconnect there.

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Certainly one of the things that's different this time is the disparity where if you really look for the full channel, we have restocking happening and I think in automotive, we have restocking happening in truck, believe we start to see some - saw some restocking in third quarter in Ag. But then we have destocking in probably general industrial, distribution, and rail. So I think we have more haves and have not within that. But I don't think so, Steve, because I think the decline that we saw in revenue in use of end use of products and the idling of factories around the world, and reduction, I think that was a real reduction in demand for period. And inventory generally asked to come out for that. I think it's bit extended much beyond early into next year or really even much beyond the end of this year, then I think it would start to be unusual in its duration.

Phil Fracassa

Analyst

Hey, Steve, this is Phil. The only thing I would add to what Rich said, we did see and recording a globally our order book and distribution was up slightly year-on-year, obviously up a lot of sequentially. But so we know, to Rich's point we do feel like, and while there may be some further destocking here through the end of the year, we do think inventory should be hopefully in decent shape and set us up reasonably long for 2021.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be from Joseph O'Dea of Vertical Research Partners.

Joseph O'Dea

Analyst

Hi, good morning, everyone. I want to ask about the setup over the next couple of quarters and talking about more or less normal seasonality and sort of some stabilization after Q2 decline, Q3 bounce back and what you think we need to see in order to trigger the next wave of recovery costs of these levels. I would think from an end market puts and takes perspective that you're looking at more tailwind than headwinds here. I'm not sure if any end markets that stand out as ones that you would see a little bit of pressure next year. But really what we need to see in terms of getting that next stage of recovery growth underway.

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Well, I think we clearly have net momentum and the sequential strengthening has been there since May, continuing through October and I would not consider a slight decline in November, December is a slowdown of that. So I think I can start the year would really would be the determinant of that. Certainly, as all of you know these are a - lot of these markets truck and are highly markets, they are momentum markets, once they start moving sequentially in the right direction, they tend to move in that direction for multiple quarters and or years, not a quarter or two. To Steve's point could this be different with Coronavirus? It could be but you know, I think as we sit here today in our world is set up that we think we're going to grow sequentially from the fourth quarter to the first quarter and if this momentum will continue. It's a little more tepid than probably what would be given the depth of where we went in the second quarter. Largely due to some pretty weak consumer economy, unemployment and all the things obviously that are out there plus the risk around coronavirus is resurging here in the winter months, but I think in general as you look across our market still the momentum has been favorable for five, six months and is largely set up to start 2021 favorably.

Joseph O'Dea

Analyst

Got it. And then I wanted to ask one on the cost side of things, it sounds like in terms of the temporary costs that are out that those would be managed out over the next couple of quarters or so. As we think about the kinds of scenarios in which those costs start to come back. But do you anticipate bringing them back in a way that normal incrementals are still achievable? Or is it a matter of some of these cost cuts will make normal incremental in a recovery scenario a little bit harder to achieve?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Well, let me probably give a longer answer to that than what you asked me. As you break down our costs into various buckets; first, we do a lot of work every year to increase the variability of our cost structure. And this works been ongoing for well over a decade. I think we're better at it today than we were in the 2015 -16 period. And we were better at it in 2015-16, than we were and 2008-09. And it's everything from de-vertical integration, flexing the labor costs, and the plans or incentive compensation systems design, the cyclicality of our material cost structure, and just a relentless focus on moving more fixed costs to where there's some level of variability in them. So that's the biggest part. That's the most important part, if you look at our cost to good decrementals. And again, I think we're better at, that being said, there's definitely some compression there things that we can't flex, and those costs largely all come back when volume comes back. And then as we talk about temporary cost reductions. I break that down into two pieces. There's what really be the extraordinary things we did that the depths of the Coronavirus situation around compensation and furloughs. Those are over and would not be expected to repeat at all. And that is what I was referring to was really a fairly small impact even in the third quarter. So I largely say they were over in the second quarter. They were big in the second quarter, small in the third quarter and largely over. There's this other part of temporary Coronavirus costs, which I think is really where you are getting at travel, controllable expenses, some part of our headcount that we've gotten tighter on just as we…

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from a Steve Barger of KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. Just going back to the renewables, do you build your own industry forecasts or using a service? And can you tell us what either you or they expect for kind of three- or five-year growth rates for renewable installations?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

I would say we certainly use external but we really use more customers because it really matters much more what content we have in which customers around and which geographies around. So these are - this is probably one of our longest lead time firm order book items that we have. So when we typically have quarters of have firm backlog and visibility to business that we don't have today that we may not start commercializing for 12 months, 18 months. So definitely our internal data is more relevant. But then we use a variety of external benchmarks to spot that. And I think the numbers that we showed you there of the 8-ish percent, I think is pretty good benchmark for us over time. But it is not been a linear progression for us as we move into the market. And what expected not to be linear going forward, there hasn't been any major pull backs. But there's been some pauses as we've been in the market now for a decade plus, but next year again with where we participate pretty bullish. I don't think it certainly won't be the same level of percentage that we did this year; this year was, we had some significant capacity come online, some new platforms come online. And then also a good market next year, we have the same but not at that same level magnitude, but we will have another round of both CapEx plus plan for next year that'll put us in position for the next couple of years.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Okay, can you tell us what your average one time per turbine is or what - and what it can be if you're selling the whole bearing and lubrication product suite?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

No, well, one it varies quite a bit, depending on the size of the turbine and then how much we participate in that turbine. And I would say it'd be rare for us to have every application across the turbine typically it's split amongst us and some competition. But it's tens of thousands of dollars to six figures.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Got it. And, and similar question for solar. I know there's less content there. But is it content per panel or content per megawatt? How do you even think about or how should we think about measuring content relative to growth rate?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Yes. It's dramatically smaller on solar. And in one, it's not in every solar application. Some solar applications are fixed, although the premium commercial ones generally have precision motion control device. So now you're talking thousands to $10,000. And it would be more per panel as the graphic that we have in the deck illustrates and then there'll be some conversion. So I think, Steve, I think our intent in our next investor time is to give you a lot more information on both those questions wanted to dip into it today and from our confidence, but I think both your questions are fair in terms of relating our revenue back to actual units of energy. And we'll come back to you in the next couple of quarters with more information on that.

Operator

Operator

We will now go to Joseph Ritchie of Goldman Sachs.

Joseph Ritchie

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Guys, I just wanted to try to understand the trends a little bit better. I know that you talked about sequentially revenues being down a little bit in the fourth quarter versus third quarter. But you also stated that October was I think, the best month since January. And I know there's three less selling days also in 4Q. So is there any color you can give us around like kind of like the magnitude per round? How trends have ever have gone across your business? And particularly in October?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Yes, again, I would say it varies, but net we have positive momentum. We've had positive momentum since the May timeframe. And I think when you factor in holidays and shipping days as of November and December a flat down a couple percent from Q3 to Q4 would actually still be positive momentum. Just the shipping days alone are close to 5%. So but that being said, it's not equal. We're not expecting sequential strength in distribution from Q3 to Q4 as an example, because we think we'll see some destocking there. And we didn't see really just the sequential strength from September to October there. But in particular, automotive, particularly, I'd say more than mobile markets are continuing to strengthen. And then we've got some secular growth stories in there as well in regards to renewables. So I would say it is positive market momentum being mitigated by fewer shipping days, year-end holidays and normal seasonality.

Joseph Ritchie

Analyst

Yes, that's s helpful, Rich. I guess maybe just following up on that one comment. And I know we've talked about it a little bit here on the destocking trends in the fourth quarter. I guess, just given that we have been in a period of destocking for quite some time and seeing negative growth for several quarters now. It's curious to me that we're still in this destocking mode with the distributors. So what is going on with them specifically, any other color that you can provide there on distributor destocking trends in the 4Q?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

No, I don't think so. And I think I guess we'd say it's modest; these aren't, these are - they are sales year-on-year down 10%, our sales to them are down 11%, or 12%. These are not huge swings in their inventory. One of our customers made some comments on their call this week as well about that they invested a lot in information technology and improved digital connectivity with their suppliers, one of which would be us, and they and us manage inventory better. So I think it's largely if sales are 10% lower, you need less inventory to support that. And therefore that inventory has to come out and our sales have to be a little lower. So I think it's just a normal thing. On the flip side, you were talking about the distribution side, but there's also, it's pretty heavy destocking and in some of our off-highway channels. For us, we really started experiencing that last year significantly in the fourth quarter. Our customers are talking about it more impacting them now in the third quarter and fourth quarter. But for us, we're actually on the other end of that where we're starting to see our sell-through to them be at their sales level or a little greater, because we took a lot of that hit last year and then in the early parts of Coronavirus. So it varies into the earlier comments. I wouldn't say that there's anything abnormal happening except for the three- or four-month period that was extremely abnormal in the earlier part of this year.

Joseph Ritchie

Analyst

Got it. And maybe one real quick one for Phil. The $55 million to $60 million in savings in the second half; how much came through in the third quarter? And how much is expected in 4Q?

Phil Fracassa

Analyst

Yes, great question. I think of it as pretty close, maybe slightly below half in the third quarter and maybe slightly above half in the fourth quarter but reasonably close. And as we talked about before we think the full year effect of those savings next year will that plus some other initiatives, we're working on should essentially mitigate the absence of the temporary actions next year. So while year-on-year comps will be a little bit messy, just given everything that went on in the second quarter. But we do think for the full year would not expect, the temporary cost of actions that we did this year to be a headwind per se we think we would to be able to fully offset it.

Operator

Operator

We will now go to Ross Gilardi of Bank of America.

Ross Gilardi

Analyst

Thanks, guys. Good morning. More renewables questions. And I'm guessing you guys are happy to talk about this business for all day right now. You gave that a couple of those great slides. And you showed 12% of sales in 2020. I mean, it's a $400 million business right now. It looks like I didn't quite break out the ruler, but it looks like it's more than doubled in the last two years. Tell me if I'm wrong. And that's what I'm wondering is can this be a billion dollar business and, I don't know, five, eight years and is the manufacturing capacity distinct from it and can you present it to as a separate sort of standalone business and any thought being given to breaking it out as a segment at some point because clearly this is a business that's growing way faster than anything else in the bearings industry right now, that probably warrants a much higher multiple.

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Well, a lot of interesting thoughts within that, I would say, first on your breaking out the ruler, directionally yes. And that was what the slide was intended to be, directional. We've made some significant investments and they're delivering this year and we expect them to for years to come. And I think directionally, yes. I think well this as a business, we think we can keep a double digit type cater on for some time, we chopped the numbers that you just rattled off there, when we get to be a pretty sizable part of the company in the next five years. I would say we have really even contemplated the segmentation questions. And it would probably have to get quite a bit bigger before that would be a valid discussion. But certainly, I think, to the questions, you just raised questions from Steve earlier, et cetera. We need to provide more color on what we're thinking about it, what we're going to be investing in it, and what the growth of the industry is going to mean to the Timken Company in the coming years. And we do plan; we certainly do plan to do that was the baby in a small step in that direction. I think I answered all your questions. Did I leave any there, Ross?

Ross Gilardi

Analyst

No, that's great, Rich. I mean, can you comment on like, what do you think your share has gone over the last three to five years for - was it particularly and when?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Well, it varies in the gear drives; I would say it's quite high. But certainly, we still have a couple of large competitors out there. But we, I would say are one or two in the gear drive space on the main shaft, which tends to be the two-meter, three meter, very large bearings, we're still actually very small. We were zero not very long ago, and we broke it into double digits, but we're still third, or where we participate, we're third, we're not really in Japan. So I think there's still a lot of upside there. A lot of the CapEx that we put in this year, and let's plan for next year is in that space. And I think there's room for us both from a share perspective and in a market perspective.

Phil Fracassa

Analyst

Ross, this is Phil. I would just add to Rich's comments; the vast majority of our growth this year in wind would have been more on the gear drives than the main shaft. But I think with the tech, with the investments we are making in technology and in footprint, I think we're in a great position to, for that to be the next, the next really good story for us. And wind is increasing our penetration and share on the main shaft, which is the longer cycle, quite frankly, the longer cycle of the two portions of business on the bearing side. I'd also say it's a concentrated industry, right there. It's not the longest list of customers. And the same thing with competitors; so we have competitors and they're formal competitors. But it's not a long list of companies that have the technology to do what we're doing.

Ross Gilardi

Analyst

I would just say - the only thing I'd ask is do you have separate capacity for the wind business? And in particular or is it commingled with the rest of your footprint?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

Well, it's largely a size issue. So certainly when you get up two bearings, two meters and above, there's not much of a market, particularly precision bearings. Typically when you'd be up to that size, you might get something in a marine application or something but they would typically be lower precision bearings. So when you get to precision bearings of that size, it is largely dedicated manufacturing technology. You get to the gear dry sizes. Phil's alluding to is big power growth; those are size bearings, that would be in steel mills would be in other large industrial, some mining equipment, applications, et cetera. So they're not unique, but it has become such a sizable part of the bearing industry that it's also - it's - the growth - and it is made at the largest part of that industry, whereas 10 or 20 years ago would not have been.

Operator

Operator

And now we'll move to Justin Bergner of G research.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Good morning, Rich. Good morning, Phil. Just on the renewables quickly, a lot been hashed out. When I do the math and look at the bars. It looks like there's about 50% growth in 2020. I guess there's some contribution in organically from BEKA, just it sort of in the right ballpark there. And you did say that you're expecting further growth in 2021?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

In the right ballpark and, yes, further growth in 2021. Not at that same percentage, it would be a lower percentage.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Okay, great. Switching to the price cost side, you mentioned, I think you expect flat price in 2021? Or was it flat sort of price cost?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

My comment was flat price. And obviously, we've got a lot of self-help on the cost side not ready to call the, I'll say the more variable part of the cost side of the cyclical costs of steel cost. But with flat price, I think price cost could be positive with the exception what Phil said we've got the one-time benefit of the second quarter could be a little bit messy, but for the year, we think we could eke out a little bit of price, positive price costs.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Okay, and then lastly, just on the destock restock dynamic, it seems like you still expect across the system sort of slight destocking in 4Q. But if the destocking is coming down in 4Q and sort of call it flat in 1Q and shifting to a restock thereafter, it would seem like normal seasonality would actually be equivalent to a very weak recovery because the destocking stocking trend is starting to shift even if it's still negative. Is that accurate?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

No, I don't think so. Because I think if you look back at, particularly the end of 2016, which was when our markets inflected off of a tough 2015 and beginning of 2016. And then you look at 2017, where we have broad based market strength. A really strong Q3 to Q4 for us would be flat to up 1% or 2%. And so, again, just this seasonality impact of is pretty hard to overcome. So but then you look at what we did from the first quarter of those. If you're say down to flat Q3 toQ4, you look at Q4 to Q1, the last four years has been plus two, which was not a strong market front going from 2019 to 2020 plus 7 plus 12 and plus 7. So I think the Q4 to Q1 is more indicative of the strength of the markets.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our last question from Christopher Dankert of Longbow Research.

Christopher Dankert

Analyst

Hey, morning, guys. Just kind of want to dig in here again, I know it was a difficult question, but is there any way to kind of quantify the crosslink benefit we've been seeing from including Diamond and Lovejoy and kind of expanding further into power transmission over time, or perhaps another way, just how these path [Indiscernible] been performing versus expectations maybe?

Phil Fracassa

Analyst

Well I think, Chris, it's a great question. And it's really one where obviously, one of the big challenges we look for and adding products to the portfolio is the opportunity to cross-sell. So, Rich, mentioned the ability - the relationships we have with the wind turbine manufacturers and the gearbox manufacturers puts us in a position to bring the lubrication systems that goes so known for into that space, which then gives us obviously, more revenue opportunity. With Chain, we've talked about the opportunity to take Diamond which is a premier brand in North American distribution, combine it with our drives business and really take it to the next level with both distributors and even receiving some of the installed base with Carlisle. Belts was a great story where we were able to take what was a predominantly OE business with our industrial power transmission belts take it into distribution where every time every sale, we make in distribution is a really nice mix up opportunity. I think the list goes on and on and it varies by product, I think you've hit the nail on the head, I think the couplings, the chain, the belts probably provide the closest lubrication obviously the closest synergies with our bearing product portfolio. The linear motion is a little bit different, but still some nice opportunities there as well. And then obviously on the gear side now we've got not only the premier gear services business in what we think in the world in Philadelphia gear, we've also got Cone Drive in its product portfolio, as well as the Marine business we've been building and continue to add on to. So it is clearly part of the value proposition. We're seeing that it's one where it's not a lot of home runs. It's a lot of singles and doubles, but our teams around the world when they go to visit customers; they're bringing the entire Timken portfolio with them, making joint sales calls wherever they need to. And we're really excited about what we see, we think we're probably still in the early to mid-innings of this opportunity. And I think there'll be a lot to look forward to over the coming quarters and years.

Rich Kyle

Analyst

I think I'd just add it's been a pretty powerful combination. It's not, again, with our business model of the opportunities we're seeking to fill sports analogy, it's singles and doubles, not home runs. It also takes a little time and a lot of it's, again, over time when you get the digital connectivity done, where - you're on the same CRM system can consolidate shipments, et cetera. Yes, I would say it's pretty powerful.

Christopher Dankert

Analyst

Got it. And thanks so much for the details, guys. And again, I guess last one for me, renewables in China obviously an incredible story for you. But you mentioned the China was up year-over-year, or excuse me, India was up year-over-year as well. And if I remembering correctly, that's more heavy truck off highway focus. So is that the demand that's returning in India?

Rich Kyle

Analyst

It is, I would say the third quarter of last year was an easier comp than the first half we had that. And then also India has become a renewable energy market for us as well. So I would say the Indian market was solid year-on-year, but probably the growth was renewable driven.

Operator

Operator

And with that, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Frohnapple for any additional or closing comments.

Neil Frohnapple

Analyst

Okay, thanks, Catherine. And thank you everyone for joining us today. If you have any questions after today's call, please contact me again. My name is Neil Frohnapple and my number is 234-262-2310. Thank you. And this concludes our call.

Operator

Operator

And again, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's call. We like to thank you again for your participation. You may now disconnect.