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Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 20, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentleman, and welcome to the Millicom Financial Results Conference Call. Today's presentation will be hosted by Chief Executive Officer, Mauricio Ramos; and Tim Pennington, Chief Financial Officer. Following the formal presentation by Millicom's management, an interactive Q&A session will be available. I would now like to hand the call over to Michel Morin, Millicom's Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Michel Morin

Head of Investor Relations

Thank you and hello, everyone. Welcome to our second quarter 2018 results conference call. And before we begin, please make sure to review the safe harbor disclosure on Slide number 2 of the presentation, which is available on our website. Now let me hand the call over to Mauricio Ramos, our CEO for his remarks.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Thank you, Michel and good day everyone, and welcome to our second quarter call. As always, I'm here today with Tim Pennington, our CFO. Once again, we had a very, very strong quarter and let me walk you proudly through the highlights on Slide 4. LatAm service revenue growth continued to accelerate and hit 5.5%. As you will see in a few minutes, growth was positive in all three business units and mobile growth is back above 2% growth. Home, our residential cable business, performed exceptionally well with growth reaching almost 13%. This is our strongest quarter in more than two years, thanks in large part to an improvement in Colombia. Our margins continued to expand and we are delivering double-digit free cash flow growth year-to-date. And finally, we are also formally announcing today that we plan to list our common shares in the U.S. next year. Now let's go over the details beginning on Slide 5. This chart speaks for itself, and as you can see our LatAm service revenue grew 5.5% this quarter. This is our strongest quarter since 2015. And our performance was solid with growth trending higher in most of our largest markets as you can see on Slide 6. Performance was indeed very impressive in Bolivia with growth reaching almost 16%. Our home business there is doing exceptionally well with revenues up almost 90% and this of course is not happening by chance. It is a direct result of the investment decisions that we took more than two years ago. Since then we have built a 4G network and we have doubled the size of our cable HFC network. And the configuration rate on the homes that we have built is better than we expected and ARPU is holding up as well. As we have…

Tim Pennington

CFO

Thank you, Mauricio. So let me start by setting out the key financial highlights on Slide 15. We have momentum with the network rollout in 49,000 homes connected et cetera and this is filtering through to our financials. We are managing growth in a balanced way. We're investing in sales and marketing spending more on our networks and yet we're doing this whilst managing profitability tightly and it's not just EBITDA, operating profits, pretax profits and net income are all up this quarter and this is flowing through to the cash flow, operating cash flow and equity free cash flow are both meaningfully up on last year. And we have been actively managing the balance sheet. We've been selling underperforming businesses in Africa, taking advantage of cheaper financing, selling house to free up capital, ensures our balance sheet is in good shape. Let me turn now to the key financial metrics for the group on Slide 16. You've heard all about the revenue growth in LatAm, we've also returned to better growth in income there, this translated into group service revenue 5.3% up and this compares to 3.6% in the last quarter and a 1.4% decline a year ago and this is flowing through to EBITDA which was up 4.6% and through OCF which was up 13.8%. Now turning to LatAm on Slide 17, in sheer contrast of the volatility elsewhere in the region, the micro was pretty stable, so our currencies have proved resilient and the Colombia presidential elections have no visible impact on our market. Indeed the country's consumer confidence index turned positive in Q2. And then turning to revenue whilst it is true the growth was flattened by a nonrecurring B2B revenue from Colombia even excluding this growth was 4.6% producing our sixth consecutive quarterly improvement. And…

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Thank you, Tim. And before we take your questions, let me summarize the key highlight of the quarter. In brief, our strategy is working. We're pleased and we continue to drive strong operational momentum across all lines of business. 4G is clearly driving better mobile trends and home now generates half of our growth demonstrating its true long-term potential. Growth is accelerating with strong performance across most markets and across all business lines. We had a really solid first half and our outlook for the year as Tim has indicated as improved. Margins and free cash flow continue to trend higher and our balance sheet is solid. We've been able to accomplish all of these while nurturing our entrepreneurial corporate culture and taking care of our people. One of the most rewarding aspects of being CEO of this beautiful company is to see how proud our team is to work here. I am pleased to report that once again for the second year in a row our team operations ranked amount the top 25 multinational companies to work for in Latin America in the 2018 great place to work survey. And finally, as you saw in our earnings release, we're announcing that our Board has approved our plans to list our shares in the U.S. next year. We will of course maintain our existing listing in Sweden. And we're now ready for your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We’ll now take our first question from Allan Nichols from Morningstar. Please go ahead.

AllanNichols

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead

Thank you. Yes, I was wondering about more cable consolidation opportunities, you made the acquisition of Cable DX Guatemala, how many other opportunities like that exist? Thank you.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

So, Cable DX is a small tuck-in acquisition that we've undertaken in Guatemala. It added about 50,000 cable subscribers as I alluded to and about $1 million of revenue give or take for the quarter. Of those, you may have seen that we did one in Paraguay about 12 months ago and we've done a couple of other smaller across the region. Just like any cable operation that I've known pretty much throughout the world there are a number of these small cable tuck-ins that a cable operator a nationwide network starts bringing into the fold on a continuous basis. Some of them are big enough that we may highlight them a little bit, others are just small and happen almost every now and again. You may have seen that there's a couple of them going on in Costa Rica. The point I'm making here is just about every cable network that I'm aware of has been built this way and for us given that we have this pretty big and meaningful, probably the largest build program in the region, some of these become a build versus buy acquisition for us, a build versus buy decision. We will either build a network or we will buy the existing operator [ph]. So in a sense they help us get to our build target by expediting their market entry by buying rather than building and that's the rational of this specific cable tuck-ins.

AllanNichols

Analyst · Morningstar. Please go ahead

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Julio Arciniegas from RBC Capital. Please go ahead.

Julio Arciniegas

Analyst · RBC Capital. Please go ahead

Hi Mauricio, Tim. Congratulations for the results. So my first question is related to Colombia. In Colombia we see that the growth is being driven by fixed services. Is this performance in fixed driven by higher speed uptick or is it just that the broader market is growing independently of the technology? And my second question is regarding FTTH strategy, has the company evaluated deploying FTTH instead of cable and we’re seeing some cable players in the regions that basically they are starting to do the new deployment with FTTH? And finally relating with the target of 4G target for the year, the company has 1 million 4G net adds in the first half is targeting 3 million, how the company is going to accelerate the the 4G uptick in the second half of the year? Thank you.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Yes, Thank you Julio, those are great questions. On Colombia in general and then the fixed growth there I've already made the key points on our home business there. Before I answer specifically on the fixed growth and where that is coming from, very mind that in Colombia our business is pretty balanced; about a third B2B, a third home, and about a third is the cable residential business, sorry the mobile business, it's about a third. The key point about our growth in Colombia is not only that it's a balanced portfolio, but all three lines of businesses are back on growth and that's really key to what's happening in Colombia. Albeit, mobile is a little bit more moderate in its growth, but both B2B and home are growing quite healthily. Particularly with regards to home and the growth behind home it's actually both, it's both volume and ARPU driven and that's the nice combination that you want to have in a subscription cable business. The volume growth is driven by just a momentum, the amount of HFC build that we've been doing over the last few years there and the fact that we’ve reached net add momentum because of the investments that we’ve made in sales and marketing, but secondly because the copper addition is less and less and less, the copper attrition I should say, and that’s largely because we are - rebuild the network, maintenance is better, product is better and bundling and cross-selling is working really well. In the meantime, the ARPU element of the equation has also been kicking in. This year we took early on about a 3% very moderate price increase across the customer base. We have been increasing speeds in Colombia as we build and upgrade the network to our HFC…

Tim Pennington

CFO

Yes look, I mean 4G is back ended always, I mean yes we did many in the first half. When you look at our Q4 last year, we did few about 1.3-ish million net additions in 4G. So it will be back ended it was last year we’re pretty confident of the 3 million target is going to be okay. And I just want to add on one point on the cable side. I mean one of the good things that the businesses have actually almost consistently is very good sales in the home business. We may say it is a very high consistent level of sales. Where we’ve been struggling is in terms of churns being higher and that is entirely within our gift, our management may think as we are getting kind of improving the processes there, that is why we’re seeing this more sustainable net adds on the home side which is why we’re convinced we have passed the inflation point and we’ve got some of them into the future.

Julio Arciniegas

Analyst · RBC Capital. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you. Thank you very much for the answers.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our next question from Kevin Roe from Roe Equity Research. Please go ahead.

Kevin Roe

Analyst · Roe Equity Research. Please go ahead

Thank you. Mauricio, you mentioned in your comments the new Colombian Government, can you update us on your relationship with the government and expectations for the telecom regulatory reform that could benefit Millicom?

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Yes, I think that the first comment is Kevin, and it's a very good question. It’s very early days for us to really know what socket position maybe taken by the government in any of the key specific points. But on top of that what I can tell you is, that what we’re seeing is and from own point of view is that having gotten through this election, a lot of the uncertainty about the future of Colombia has indeed been eliminated not just in our mind but in the minds of many others. This new government and everything they have been saying in terms of sending out the right messages, the big picture of that really is sending all the right messages and providing with a lot of investment confidence on our end and from what we hear many others. And Tim alluded to renewed consumer confidence in the market which is the telling sign, it is visible across the industry and I think you will begin to see it also through our P&L. There is a number of meaningful key items regulatorily in Colombia. There is obviously the pending review of dominance by the larger player in the market, there is a pending auction of the 700 megahertz that we deem has something that we strongly support. We do need to correct to a handicap that we have historically and that we’ve alluded to before, we are the only operator that historically has had no low frequency spectrum and this is a tremendous opportunity for that handicap and that disadvantage that we have historically had to be corrected. And I think if those two things a more competitive environment in the sense of a more balanced player environment and correcting for handicap provides us with pretty optimistic view that things could get better on the regulatory front in Colombia.

Kevin Roe

Analyst · Roe Equity Research. Please go ahead

That’s helpful, thank you and one followup on El Salvador, you mentioned that you’ve already taken the necessary steps to help stabilize and turnaround that business, can you give us a sense of what steps were taken and what we should think about the ramp of stabilization and recovery and any update on potential for end market consolidation in El Salvador will be helpful? Thanks Mauricio.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Yes, so backwards because it's easier, no updates on potential market consolidation in El Salvador, there is just no update there. And just in El Salvador the reason we feel quite confident that we can affect the turnaround like we’ve done everywhere else is because, yes some macro and country turmoil, no doubt about that and some meaningful regulatory headwinds in the past that we discussed in this call, but that being said we actually don’t want to make any excuses about this. This is largely self inflicted pain and just bad operational execution. We know we dropped the ball there and the mistakes that we made there are mistakes that are operationally possible to correct and we’ve had our squad of executives over there reviewing the steps to correct. They need largely to do with operational blocking and tackling and we've not only put our correction plan in place, we've also as of last week have a new management team in place in El Salvador. And as you know with new leadership and a good plan in place, the playbook that we have executed elsewhere we’re confident will play out in El Salvador just like it has before.

Kevin Roe

Analyst · Roe Equity Research. Please go ahead

Understood, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Lena Osterberg from Carnegie. Please go ahead.

Lena Osterberg

Analyst · Carnegie. Please go ahead

Good afternoon. I will ask [indiscernible] no questions from our side there. A little bit on Tanzania just on the process, on the lever process what's going on? And then also on the [indiscernible] Ghana maybe a little bit on how margins [indiscernible]? And then also on Colombia, just if you could give us a roughly what your EBITDA impact was in Q1 and Q2 from the government election contract that we know that this cannot continue into Q3 and Q4 and how much is of a contribution that was?

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

All right. So I’ll perhaps start with Colombia and then I’ll hand it over to Tim to talk a little bit about Tanzania and also complement on Colombia. Before we - I think we gave you the very specific impact of the B2B contract, government contract for the elections on revenue, we don’t go all the way down through EBITDA, it was just simply in our disclosure that we provide. But perhaps the way to give you confidence is that, yes it was meaningful in Q1 and Q2, this B2B contract and yes that specific contract will not be there in Q3 or Q4, but we do have a meaningful and growing B2B operation in Colombia and obtaining these kind of contracts although they may not happen every quarter is part of what we do, and there are other similar contracts in the future in Colombia. They may not be of this size, but it's part of what we do.

Tim Pennington

CFO

And just on the first question in terms of their legal case – net update on that its working its way through the legal system. We believe it’s moving and [indiscernible] system that will get results. And then on Ghana, the integration actually is going very well. There's been a lot of activity there, principally in merging the two businesses together, getting the single distribution platforms and [indiscernible] platform single, network platform, it would be too early to give any more detail on this one, but it is moving very quickly for us.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

And while we are in Africa as it indeed it’s a topic that hasn’t come up for a long time for all the good right reasons. Africa is very nicely equity free cash flow positive as you've seen and we have promised for a long time and you can remain assured that we remain very active strategically there. We know that we can redeploy that capital when the moment is right.

Lena Osterberg

Analyst · Carnegie. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next question from Johanna Ahlqvist from SEB. Please go ahead.

Johanna Ahlqvist

Analyst · SEB. Please go ahead

Yes, thank you. Let me see what questions have not been taken. Yes, if you can comment on El Salvador to start with on should we expect more of bad debt in El Salvador or is it more sort of a top line issue in this transition that you're going through? And also if you can comment anything if we should expect, do you see that they are more sort of power leases to be made except for the ones you already signed? Thank you.

Tim Pennington

CFO

I think in terms of Salvador, we as much have just explained we are turning the business around. I can’t rule out any more bad debts, but it’s a combinational of issues. That said, it's relatively small, whilst the impact was not impactful relatively to our business and we're very confident that this business will get back on track.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

I think the way to, I mean the template is Honduras Johanna. I think where you will see that we've implemented all the required changes and although it's behind the other markets, it's coming along online with the same level of trend that you've seen everywhere. My expectation is that that's what you'll see in El Salvador it's just coming right behind.

Tim Pennington

CFO

And then on the towers I mean we've done the towers in Paraguay, Colombia and El Salvador and we can’t do a tower deal every quarter, so we're busy sort of working our way through those deals. There is a little bit of disclosure if you dig into the financial statements, the study full statements I’m guessing four or five.

Johanna Ahlqvist

Analyst · SEB. Please go ahead

Perfect, thank you and just one more if I may, I know a previous question was related to that you see some competitors building sort of fiber instead of HFC and you still regard sort of HFC as the best and most cost efficient way to sort of approach those markets. But do you foresee a case where competition go for sort of fiber that you sort of end up being in a less favorable position in that case or how is this sort of the competitors acting in those markets right on that jump? Thank you.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Sorry, I have to be very honest with you, the amount of fiber that we see deployed in our market is the minimums.

Tim Pennington

CFO

However it’s throughput is about 10X per second this movement.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

So the fiber in our market is almost, I almost hesitate to say Johanna negligible. Now there is some fiber deployments limited that typically go to the business part areas and they tend to cater to the larger costumers. We do a lot of those ourselves. I'm referring to cable architecture to the residential and to the small offices and home offices and given where broadband speeds are in our markets average is 10 at best case. Cable technology can compete against fiber anyway all the way up to 1 or 2 Gigahertz’s, so we're so far behind in the need for fiber to the residential areas in our markets, that for the time being and as far as I can see the return on capital, the efficiency of our spend is much better served by us deploying a very modular, very cost effective technology like HFC. Mind you we're deploying 1 Gigahertz two-way ready, DOCSIS 3.0 [ph] all ready with state-of-the-art Wi-Fi routers to their home in our markets. This is the same technology and the same CPE that's being deployed in the U.S.

Tim Pennington

CFO

And as this question has come up a couple of times, I mean I don't want you to think that we've got religion on this thing. We have basically deployed the right technology at the right time based on the financial terms around there.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Yes.

Johanna Ahlqvist

Analyst · SEB. Please go ahead

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next question from [indiscernible] from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, good afternoon. Thank you. I have two questions please, first with regards to B2B where have you highlighted you've delivered good growth. I was wondering if you could tell us a little bit if this is a market that is generally growing in the region or is it you're taking market share and typically who are your main competitors? I don’t know if it makes sense to that or no, I'm a global doofus, I may be focused on the main geographies, but albeit color on that segment would be great? And then second on Colombia, as you highlighted mobile is also doing better and that’s despite what you mentioned. And I wanted to understand a little bit what was behind that better performance really on an absolute basis, but also it's been relative to some of your peers and how sustainable that was? Thank you.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Yes, listen on B2B, B2B is both a business segment that as a whole is growing and also while we think we are underweight here and how large our mobile footprint is in every market and how much cable footprint we're building in every market, so it's a combination of both market growth and the fact that we're building networks and have a meaningful mobile presence. Within B2B all segments are growing. Corporations are growing, multinationals are growing and in particularly the SMB business is growing. And as you may recall from our my remarks, SMB is about 40% of our business and it is growing quite significantly because middle and home businesses are growing in these markets, but also because we're building a ton of network that also although is meant to be for residential purposes, passes small businesses and small home offices that we can cater to as part of our B2B offering. And the second part of the last part of this element is that given our large B2B presence in Colombia and the fact that Central America caters to Colombia as a destination market for a lot of them with the Latinos where uniquely positioned to provide an offering for those multi Latinos as they demanded B2B services throughout a footprint that is very close to our footprint. And the large business segment that is really growing is the Solutions segment and that's where we've been deploying data centers and solution based technology so that we can grow into more value added solution services like cloud security, that's the long and short of the B2B answer. And listen on Colombia, I think the better way to answer that question is to perhaps about a little bit of context, historical context here and you may have Matteo [ph] hear me talk about before. If you go back two years ago, the mobile industry as a whole in Colombia was decreasing double digits almost 15% couple of years ago. It was just an unsustainable demonic and was enhanced or further made difficult because of the devaluation back a couple of years ago. About a year ago, it started to stabilize as market players became a little bit more rational and started realizing that the 4G upside opportunity was not being monetized by any one because of this low prices on mobile data. And if you fast forward to today whereas it still remains pretty competitive and growth is not stellar at least there is some growth. So you see a trend here of a mobile sector in Colombia that is slowly recomposing itself and slowly beginning to grow. And you can see because you can pull information from our competitors some of whom have already reported, that growth is back on mobile and you can do your own analysis and you'll pretty soon see that we’re stacking up pretty well, we’re holding our own on all segments in Colombia.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. You’re even doing better than your peers which is great.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

If that's not from me you can do the math and thank you for saying that. That’s not for me to brag about.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next questions from Soomit Datta from New Street Research. Please go ahead.

Soomit Datta

Analyst · New Street Research. Please go ahead

Hi, a couple of questions please. On Colombia, away from the immediate operational, there has been some speculation about financial problems that EPM and some speculation you might be able to fine the minorities there. Can you give a little update as to how you see that situation please? And then secondly on Paraguay, I guess it’s not new that there is competition in the market, but could you maybe give a little bit more color as to how that competition is playing out and is there any sign that maybe it is coming to an end, which of the player is being aggressive, any sort of slightly deep level of commentary would be super helpful. Thank you.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Sure. So listen with regards to [indiscernible] I simply won’t comment out of respect and quite frankly lack of understanding and they’re also a publicly traded company, so I’m sure they will provide the required disclosures. What I can tell you though, is that we see no operational hiccups. Our relationship with them obviously we manage the business, we control and consolidate the business and we drive the business. But more importantly, we hold a very strong, very close and very constructive partner relationship with them. So it hasn’t and we don’t expect that it would affect the business. As you know, we have internally generated cash flow in Colombia to certainly fund our investment needs going forward. So that’s – it’s pretty much their own situation and not our own. And with regards to Paraguay, there is increased competition in Paraguay, there has been increased competition in Paraguay for a while and we don’t expect that it would subside for any particular reason. It will continue to be as strong as it has been. What we have been doing in the meantime is we have been strengthening our position. We attained spectrum at the beginning of this year and we went out and very quickly built a network there, no CapEx spared there, so that we’re ready and we’ve been doing the same on cable. We’ve been building cable in Paraguay left and right, so that we strengthen our position. And more importantly than anything else Soomit we’re getting better and better at being close to our residential customers in Paraguay. Our NPS numbers are going up in Paraguay and I’m a strong believer that the closer you are to the customers, the better you provide good customer service and a more convergent you offer is the better you’re going to withstand any other competition. So we’re putting money into the network, we’re getting closer to the customer and we’re not letting that go. There is also increased competition into B2B space in Paraguay, but it is a growing market in Paraguay and that’s one of the places where we deploy a state-of-the-art Tier 3 data center. First off is cloud in the marketplace just to help us continue to support our B2B client. I guess all I’m saying is there will continue to be competition, but that’s part of what we do.

Soomit Datta

Analyst · New Street Research. Please go ahead

Okay understood, thanks.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Ernesto González from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Ernesto González: Hello. Thank you for taking my question. On the release you mentioned that you’re looking for further cost savings, could you please quantify what they would be the size and timing and also the margin expansion opportunity? Thank you.

Tim Pennington

CFO

Let me start, I mean kind of we have been undergoing a program of transformation, IT transformation which has driven margin improvement. I mean I said in my sort of speech the goal for us is to maintain the growth in our revenue base whilst holding our cost down. Now we are investing in sales and market activities, so that in the quarter and those grew by 4% just over 4% and our G&A grew because our network grew. But those could have grown a lot faster had we not been identifying cost savings in other parts of the business. This is a never ending constant focus of ours. We are changing the way we do the business and that will drive margins. I’m not sure we want to go into kind of speculating over margin expansion or what kind of when these things will come true. But rest assured the margin expansion is core to the way we look at the business and manage the business and we’re managing balanced portfolios like investing in some places, seeing margin growth in other places.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

And I think your question is really good Ernesto in the sense that it allows us to say that I think what I said in my remarks which is we are so focused on margin expansion, and I think our team and the team have a track record that is impeccable. In the last three or so years, we have taken our EBITDA margins up almost 400 basis points and operating cash flow margins are up some 600 basis points. If you look at our Latin American operating cash flow margin is actually north of that 20% target that I had said three years ago. And then this has been accomplished while we basically turnaround the revenue profile of the company and drive according free cash flow. The point I’m making is that we remain super extra focused on this. There are just as you would imagine ongoing closely managed, centrally cost reduction, and efficiency programs across the entire operations. And the reason, we remain so focused on this is because as I said earlier, we’re very, very cognizant of the fact that we want to come out of these revenue reconfigurations with a very lean organization, so that at the end of this process there is both sustainable top line growth and a digitized lean organization. The shorter term balance is the one I alluded to before, which is four times being despite of all the cost cutting we don’t want to sacrifice long-term top line growth in order to attain short term EBITDA growth. And that is why we always balance this discussion saying we’re very focused on cost, but we understand that we’re delivering EBITDA a little bit back ended. We need to make sure that our top line remains captured in all its opportunity. Ernesto González: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Peter Nielsen from ABG. Please go ahead.

Peter Nielsen

Analyst · ABG. Please go ahead

Thank you, yes, my question was actually just answered basically in terms of the EBITDA growth relative or lagging service revenue growth. I think you were indicating that we should expect the same in the second half and I guess it is too early for you to tell us now whether that is something that would continue into the next year?

Tim Pennington

CFO

Maybe let me answer it this way just to perhaps help building this answer which I know it is weighing in everyone’s analysis. We’re extremely pleased with the direction we’ve taken. Our strategy is working and all the pieces are coming together. These results are very good, but we want you to know that we’re not done, we’re not being complacent about this and that we understand that we need to deliver this EBITDA growth. We are now in an incredibly positive situation to be which is we have the ability to build a great 2019 and beyond, that's a really good place to be. Net adds are strong, ARPUs holding steady and you have heard me say this before and this is the answer I think to your question, in this business today’s net adds are tomorrows revenue growth. You've seen that already happen in our business and today’s revenue growth is tomorrows EBITDA growth. We just need to be really smart at managing and maximizing that EBITDA growth and that comes by being very, very careful not to sacrifice that long term revenue growth opportunity that we. That’s the long and short, that's the balancing act here.

Peter Nielsen

Analyst · ABG. Please go ahead

Very good. Thank you

Michel Morin

Head of Investor Relations

Operator, last question please.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our final question from Javier [indiscernible] from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. My question is more related to cable and data streaming in the second quarter. I wanted to know if there was any impact from the World Cup. I know that in some of the countries you were streaming the World Cup in the app, so I just wanted to know if there's any effect as a result of that?

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Javier, that's a fantastic question. The answer is yes.

Tim Pennington

CFO

The World Cup is technically in the third quarter space.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Fair enough, but I’m not sure I can answer the third question. The effect is brand recognition. The effect is closer to the customer, the effect is as stickiness of our digital product, association of our brand with entertainment, with payTV, with broadband, with digital offering, and we have some fantastic results in terms of views, in terms of downloads, in terms of connections to our mobile app and in terms of just affinity with the brand.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So I guess in the third quarter we should expect even more acceleration I guess from what you might say data streaming and…?

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

I mean it is fair to say the World Cup will, because the people want to see it, but there's a variety of different access points across our market and it's a good promotional exercise for us, but I think we would view it as basically an opportunity to get the brand out and get the product out.

Tim Pennington

CFO

Yes, it doesn't trickle through in any specific, it just trickles through in lower churn, more net adds, better perception of the brand. It doesn't trickle into any specific KPI per se. So it trickles into net adds, lower churn and better brand perception and higher NPS, so it's more of a longer term effect.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Yes, we don’t see…

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Mauricio Ramos

CEO

Thank you.

Michel Morin

Head of Investor Relations

Well, thank you everybody. We're very pleased with the results and we just want to thank you for all of you today and your questions.

Operator

Operator

This concludes Millicom Financial Results Conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.