Frederick H. Eppinger
Management
That’s a great question. This is the beauty of our strategy. When you go through a turn like this, the issue always is when you put price increase, are you losing the better business? What we do, which is a little bit different, is that because we have a partner agent strategy, when we thin out, we eliminate agents. Remember, where we have concentration is we have legacy agents from when we were just an oriented personal indurates. We have a lot of agents that are not at the level of partnership. They’re fine agents, but when we thin out, we essentially give our capacity to our partners. So, not only do we have a better chance of getting rate increases with partners because you have more with them in your line incentives, it is easier for us to thin because literally, we will get rid of, we will shed partners and our partners will react positively to that because their franchise value is greater. Regulatory-wise, it’s the reason why, by the way, we’ve been able to do renewal rights and targeted pockets, because what we do is we identify agents’ dedicated business and do a renewal rights deal and find people to give us something for that business. So, again, one of my views is that it’s harder to get started with fewer agents and better agents, but it’s beautiful at the turn because the ability to get rate increase, the ability to grow, the ability to shed is so much easier when you’re talking about a strategy like we have. Again, remember, where we have some concentration issues I worry about, we did have some legacy agents that, again, they’re fine, it’s just that they don’t have a lot of upside. They’re not -- have the broad portfolio that we now match up with, so we try to find them another market. Again, I’m not worried at all about the surgical actions we’ve taken. In commercial, most of the actions we’ve taken are very surgical, so it’s really the personal lines, to your point, where we’ve had more volume, and remember, the legacy agents tend to be 80% personal. It’s our history, right? So, again, it’s a little bit easier than others to do what we’re trying to do without affecting the quality or nature of our business.