Shaun Usmar
Analyst · BofA Securities
Listen, look, firstly, it's a good question. I think any organization with its way is trying to look at the things that are within your control that you can learn from. If I go specifically to the Renard transaction, we were discussing this just with our Board yesterday, there was a $200 million transaction done five, six years ago. Diamonds, as you know, are sort of noncore, and we tried at the time to bifurcate a gold stream, in particular from a diamond stream and it was sort of a package deal. And I suppose at the time, we rationalized it by saying -- it's a producing Canadian asset with strong support from Quebec and other institutions. I worked with the former Freni colleague of ours who had run Debswana [ph], gave us some expert input into the due diligence at the time because it is outside of our ordinary sphere. And that all went quite well. And I think as we look with hindsight, you made the point it's 234 assets. I think if you look at our overall percentage of write-downs on our net invested capital, we actually -- we will be the best in the sector amongst any of our peers. -- but that's still coal comfort. The things that with hindsight, I think, happened in that lesson, firstly is the transition from open pit to underground. Clearly, they struggled, which impacted liquidity. And primarily, it's been a story of difficult diamond conditions and inflation. And if you think back, we supported the business through a difficult period, along with other investors that made cash and it was fine prolonged optionality. But in this environment, that market has really got crushed in the last number of months, which we feel really bad for the teams that we try to support through this period. So -- as Sheldon said, there's no more investment in there. The lessons learned for us primarily is this wasn't the thing we pursued in isolation. We only...