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Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Limited (TEVA)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 31, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Teva Pharmaceuticals Industries Limited Q2 2024 Earnings Call. My name is Alex, and I'll be coordinating the call today. [Operator Instructions] I'll now hand it over to your host, Ran Meir, SVP, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Ran Meir

Analyst

Thank you, Alex, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We hope you have had a chance to review our Q2 results press release, which was issued earlier this morning. A copy of the press release, along with the slides presented during this call, are available on our website at ir.Tevapharm.com. Please review our forward-looking statements on Slide 2. Additional information on these statements and our non-GAAP financial measures is available on our earnings release and in our SEC forms 10-K and 10-Q. To begin today's call, Richard Francis, Teva's CEO, will provide an overview of Teva's second quarter business performance, recent events, and focus and priorities going forward. Then, Dr. Eric Hughes, our Head of R&D and Chief Medical Officer, will discuss progress on our innovative pipeline. Our CFO, Eli Kalif, will follow up by reviewing the second quarter financial results and our embedded financial outlook in more detail. Please note that today's call will run approximately one hour. And with that, I will turn the call over to Richard. Richard, if you would, please.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thank you, Ran, and good morning, everybody, and thank you for joining us on our Q2 2024 earnings call. So, I'd like to start by talking to you about the pivot to growth strategy. And it's just over a year since we launched this pivot to growth strategy. And as you know, the foundation of it was four pillars, deliver on our growth engine, step up innovation, sustain generics powerhouse, and focus the business. And I'm pleased to say we've made great progress over the last year. Deliver on our growth engines, we have driven - we continue to drive AUSTEDO and UZEDY and AJOVY from a revenue point of view, and I'm pleased to say that we've launched SIMLANDI, our biosimilar Humira. With regards to step-up innovation, Eric and his team have done a great job in bringing this pipeline through quickly. We're pleased to say that Olanzapine is now at 95% of target injections completed with no PDSS. And also, there's some good news on TL1A, with the acceleration of that and top line results expected in Q4 this year. Eric will also start to highlight a bit more about ICS/SABA, and we're pleased to introduce the new member of our pipeline family, a treatment for MSA, where we'll go into in more detail later on. On the third pillar, sustained generics powerhouse, as you'll see, we've made - continue to make good progress here as well with good growth across all regions. And then finally focusing our business and our capital allocation, with regards to TAPI, we have the second quarter of revenue growth, and we're well on our way with the process of divestment there, which I'll go into in a bit more detail later on. So, now, is the pivot to growth delivering on what…

Eric Hughes

Analyst

Thank you, Richard. Starting with our late-stage innovative pipeline, first I'd like to talk about anti-TL1A, our program in inflammatory bowel disease, also known as Duvakitug. This is a study that we accelerated. We randomized our last patient on July 5th, and that gives us about a three-month at acceleration, which we're excited to say that we can now produce top line data in the fourth quarter of this year. Moving on to Olanzapine LAI, we've also accelerated this program by nine months, and we'll be presenting our Phase 3 data on the second half of this year at a conference so that we can review the exciting data we announced earlier this year. Finally, ICS/SABA, our dual-action rescue inhaler that Richard mentioned, we're working very diligently to keep our Phase 3 study on time, which we're doing a good job right now and we're on target for our second half of 2026. But as usual, we'll always work hard to accelerate that program as well. So, an exciting late-stage program that we've got going here at Teva. Now, one of the things we announced this month as well is something that I'm particularly proud of is our AJOVY program in pediatrics. We finished our pediatric study in episodic migraine, the SPACE study, and this was a well-controlled robust study of approximately over 200 patients for treatment of eight weeks. And we're very pleased to say that we achieved primary and secondary endpoints that showed a significant reduction in our monthly migraine days compared to placebo. And this was very consistent with what we saw in the adult population, with no emergent safety signals. So, it's very encouraging to see in more fragile population, the safety and the efficacy continue to be shown for AJOVY. We continue in our pediatric…

Eli Kalif

Analyst

Thank you, Eric, and good morning and good afternoon to everyone. I will begin my review of our Q2 2024 financial results with Slide 26, starting with our GAAP performance. Revenues in the second quarter of 2024 were $4.2 billion, an increase of 7% in US dollars, or 11% in local currency terms, compared to the second quarter of 2023. This increase in revenue was mainly driven by growth from generics products across all our segments globally, including strong contribution from generics Revlimid, and the launch of generics Victoza in the US, and strong continued growth from AUSTEDO. In Q2 2024, we recorded a GAAP operating loss of $5 million compared to an operating loss of $654 million in the same quarter last year. This improvement in the second quarter of 2024 was mainly driven by high revenue and gross profit, as well as lower legal settlement and loss contingencies, and the goodwill impairment charges compared to the same quarter last year. GAAP net loss in Q2 2024 was $846 million, and GAAP loss per share was $0.75, compared to the net loss of $872 million and a loss per share of $0.78 in Q2 of last year. The lower net loss in the second quarter of 2024 was mainly due to the lower operating loss that I just discussed, partially offset by higher income taxes related to the settlement agreement we announced in June with the Israeli tax authorities to resolve all pending litigation for the company's taxable years from 2008 until 2020. Turning to Slide 27, you can see that total non-GAAP adjustment in the second quarter of 2024, were $1.5 billion, similar to Q2 2023. A notable non-GAAP adjustment this quarter includes corresponding tax effect and unusual tax items of $503 million, mainly related to the settlement…

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thank you, Eli. And I'd just like to take the opportunity to reiterate our 2027 financial guidance. We aim to grow mid-single digit revenue, the operating margin at 30%. We're committed to net debt EBITDA of 2x, and cash flow to earnings of 80%. So, once again, we reiterate our commitment to that. Now, if I move on to our confidence in that and what drives that is the pivot to growth strategy. And as you know, the first period of time was 2023 to 2024 to return the company to growth. And as I showed on my earlier slide, we've done six quarters of growth, and we continue to believe we will be returning to growth and have the opportunity to continue on that journey because of the work we're doing and the results we're seeing with AUSTEDO, UZEDY, AJOVY, and also the generics business, as well as the biosimilar pipeline starting to come through. We believe that allows us to also position ourselves for 2025 and beyond to continue that growth and accelerate it based on some of the exciting programs that Eric has talked about, but also the fact that in those products I've mentioned, AUSTEDO and UZEDY, we have growth that we predicted and we've communicated as well that we think can drive beyond 2025. So, with that, we remain very optimistic about the future, and I'd like to close the presentation and now open it up to questions and answers.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question for today comes from Ash Verma of UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Ash Verma

Analyst

Great. Good morning. Thanks. Thanks for taking my question and I have two. So, just on the API business, it's good to see back to growth dynamics here. Can you talk broadly about like what's the composition of this business? Is it like small molecule, heavy, large molecule or peptide or any flexibility to switch the mix? And it seems like the demand trends are very different depending on which segment you're in. So, that would have some significant implication on the divestment proceeds. And then secondly, on AUSTEDO, I wanted to ask like, do you expect to be on the CMS list for 2027? Thanks.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Ash. Thanks for the questions. Always appreciate it. So, with regard to TAPI, think what I can say is that the exciting thing about TAPI is it works across all technologies and platforms. So, it's the second-largest API manufacturer in the world with extensive R&D and manufacturing capabilities. So, we touch every aspect of API across all platforms and technologies, which has allowed us to return it to growth quickly because obviously we can work with many partners, CDMOs, as well as actually pharmaceutical companies. So, we feel very confident that company is - that part of our business is well positioned for growth for this year as well as beyond when it's separated. With regard to AUSTEDO and your question about I think the IRA and the pending change in the payer landscape, what I would say, when we put the pivot to growth strategy together in last year and we communicated our $2.5 billion target for AUSTEDO in 2027, if you remember, we communicated that we took into account IRA at that point. And so, we have included that within our forecast going forward. Now, it's a dynamic situation and as we get more information, obviously that gives us more clarity on what we've planned for and what we’ve - the assumptions we've made. So, that answers that second part of the question. I think I will add though, as you've seen by the presentation today, both from Eric and myself, we have a lot of assets as well coming through. We have UZEDY, which is gaining momentum. We have Olanzapine that's coming to the market. We have ICS/SABA that's coming to an exciting market that's differentiated. And then we have obviously in a slightly longer midterm, we have TL1A. So, I think - I hope I've answered your question clearly on AUSTEDO, but I also would like to highlight to everybody that we have an innovative pipeline that is maturing very quickly, and that also helps us maintain our growth trajectory. Thanks for your question, Ash.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Balaji Prasad of Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Balaji Prasad

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, everyone, and great to see the all-round growth across all business segments. Two questions from me, firstly on AUSTEDO. Richard, you have commented, and you have spoken about the efforts that you have been doing in revamping this business. Maybe it's a good time to kind of revisit and help us understand what's working here and where do you see scope for further improvement in the field with regard to diagnosis or spreading the knowledge? Two, on SIMLANDI, I think what we are seeing latest biosimilar MI trends is like 20% biosimilar MI have 20% in market share. We are yet to see SIMLANDI starting to impact this and accelerate the trend. So, you did call out that you expect to see launch in Q3 and Q4, and your partner has commented upon purchase orders booked for 1.1 million units, approximately 10% of the market. So, could you quantify what that means in terms of impact for Teva? Thanks.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thanks Balaji. Appreciate the questions. So, on AUSTEDO, what keeps driving the momentum and the performance, I think I've sort of mentioned this in the past, but it is worth reiterating. We have a great team. We put together an absolutely great team, world class team here. We've given that team the resources necessary to execute the plans that they have, and that execution is getting better quarter on quarter. Some of the plans this team put in place last year, we're only going to start to really gain traction this year. And there are other things that have been done by this team that'll gain momentum. DTC is one of them, bringing more of these undiagnosed patients into the office, but that's merely just one of them. There's many things this team are doing around the channel, effectiveness, adherence, getting patients onto therapy, onto the right dose, but it really comes back to a world class team who know what they're doing. So, that gives me a lot of confidence that this trajectory that AUSTEDO is on can be maintained. Now with regard to SIMLANDI, we did launch in Q2, as you pointed out, and we have had significant interest from the channel and the payers. So, what I've communicated in my presentation is we're well set. We have the channel stocked. We've had good interaction and we're getting ever increasing coverage with the payers. And now it's down to us to try and pull that through, working with our partners to pull that through. And I think that's when we're going to get more clarity on how effective we are at doing that, and the market is switching from the brand to the biosimilars in Q3 and Q4. So, I'd say there's more to come on that as we play out the rest of the year, but we're excited by the opportunity. And as I keep communicating, we have a portfolio here and we're going to keep bringing this portfolio to the market. I think the US market's going to continue to mature and become more dynamic and more receptive to biosimilars. We've seen that start this year. I envision that will continue throughout the rest of this year and years going forward. So, we remain excited about how biosimilars and our portfolio can help drive pivot to growth. Thanks, Balaji.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Amsellem from Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

David Amsellem

Analyst

Hey, thanks. So, I wanted to drill down more on operating leverage, not so much for the back half of this year, but longer term. So, in terms of spend, you've got eventual launch of LAI Olanzapine, so there's launch spend there, obviously investments in AUSTEDO. And then of course, you're talking about further investment in R&D. So, can you just talk about the trajectory of spend longer term and how that fits in with your ability to drive significant operating leverage as we move through next year and longer term. So, that's number one. And then secondly, can talk more broadly about your neuroscience business and specifically how M&A fits into that. You have a leverageable asset with your sales organization. So, how much of that is a priority as opposed to just focusing on cultivating the pipeline? So, help us understand your thought process there. Thank you.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thanks, David. Thanks for the question. So, on operating leverage, a couple of things to help sort of frame it. Firstly, we have a lot of opportunity at Teva to drive growth, and I think as I've communicated in the past, we've made a decision to invest in that, to make sure we can take this opportunity and maximize it. And that's both across the products we have in the market, AUSTEDO, UZEDY, AJOVY, and soon to be Olanzapine, as well as the pipeline that Eric's team are bringing through quickly. Now, just a couple of things to build on what you said. Obviously, when it comes to launching Olanzapine, we already have the infrastructure, the sales force, everything in place with UZEDY. So, that's a beautiful synergy we have there. So, as we launch some of these products, we see probably maybe an incremental increase in S&M, but nothing of any major because we have this C&S-focused sales force that we can leverage. So, I think that's one thing to understand. The other thing is, we have thought very carefully about how we accelerate our pipeline and how in some cases we've partnered with people to do that because we’re conscious that we do want to achieve leverage. We do want to get to the 30%, and we believe we've developed a path to do that. The other thing I'd add in, which I did have on one of my slides, but I didn't talk about is, we're also increasing the performance in the efficiency within our manufacturing base, which obviously is a significant cost base. And so, we put together a value-added program, we call it values acceleration program, sorry, which is all about driving down COGS, driving in efficiency, driving improvement in net working capital in all…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Gerberry of Bank of America. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Jason Gerberry

Analyst

Hey guys, thank you for taking my questions. First one's just on generic Revlimid. It's clearly a big contributor, from what I can gather. And so, how should investors think about the sort of size of this product they're going to need to model? This is revenue that will need to be replaced in 2026 when the limited competition dynamics come to an end. And along those lines, I'm seeing like in the first half, non-GAAP adjustments of about $270 million for contingent considerations on future royalties tied to generic Revlimid. So, can you walk through the accounting on that? Is that just sort of for planned future royalties over the next year and a half while the product is subject to limited competition? So, those are my questions. Thanks.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Okay, Jason, thanks for the questions. I'll start and maybe give Eli a chance to also contribute so you don't have to just continuously listen to me talk. So, we're pleased about - firstly, let me just say we're pleased about our generics business, 14% growth globally. And we have a big business, as I've mentioned many times in the past, in Europe and international, and that's growing at 8% and 22%. So, really proud of that and congratulations to the team, and I want to make sure we appreciate that. Now, moving on to the US, which obviously we saw significant growth. Now, part of that is driven by Revlimid, the continued good performance there, but I do want to remind everybody that we have launched a number of complex generics into the market this year, and that also drives growth, as well as we launched Victoza in Q2. And obviously, Victoza's an exciting opportunity, the first GLP-1 into the market. And so, that's received a lot of attention. And so, also that's helping us drive growth. We also do have just underlying good performance in our generics business as we manage our supply chain better than we've done in the past. So, I think all those fundamentals fit together. Now, we are aware that in Revlimid, there is going to come a point where this does come to an end, and because of that, we're focusing really hard on making sure we bring our high-value complex directs to the market on time more often. And I think you've seen some progress on that, and we have more than to come hopefully this year as well as early next year. We also have our biosimilar portfolio, which I've highlighted earlier, is six biosimilars to come to the market. So, as we put those together with the improvement in the operational efficiency of our base generics business, I think we have the ability to minimize the impact of Revlimid when that product has more competition. So, that's the way we view it and we are planning for it. So, I think we feel that we're in a good place. We have to keep executing, of course. But with that, I'll hand it over to Eli to answer more of that specific question around the royalties.

Eli Kalif

Analyst

Yes. So, Jason, as you saw last quarter and this quarter, actually year-to-date, we're around $238 million on the adjustment on the continuous consideration. This quarter is $174 million. This is coming strictly from the fact that based on accounting rules, you need to forecast actually - that's the ability that you have on the balance sheet, which is coming from legacy acquisitions, as you know. And this is just a reflection of our forecast.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thanks, Jason. Thanks for the questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Omri Efroni from Oppenheimer. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Omri Efroni

Analyst

Hi guys, and congrats on a great quarter. I was wondering if you have - if can give some of color about the biosimilars market share in the United States, because last time we talked, the market wasn't open yet because (indiscernible) paid the PBMs rebates, and I was wondering if some movement has been taken into the market.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Hi, Omri. Good morning. I didn't quite catch that question clearly. Maybe if you could repeat it, that'd be helpful. Thank you.

Omri Efroni

Analyst

I was wondering if Teva has seen some movement in the biosimilar market in the United States because last time we talked, the biosimilar market was pretty close, and I was wondering if the dynamics has changed.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Yes. Okay, I got it. Thank you for that. Thank you for repeating. So, the dynamics have changed, and it continues to remain dynamic. So, we have seen more of an appetite for the PBMs and the payers to embrace the opportunity of biosimilars. That said, it is a complex market in the US and how you take that and how you drive that through the channel to the physician, to the patient is variable. But I think what is most important for me is, as we've seen it with some of the deals that we've done on private label and other things, that the payers and the PBMs and the channel are really looking at biosimilars in a different way. And I think they're seen this as a strategic opportunity to help them manage costs better and help them give access to these important therapies to patients. But it's dynamic, and I use that word specifically because it is constantly changing. And so, I don't think this is necessarily a straight line. I think we'll end up at a place where it becomes very settled, but I think we're still on that journey.

Omri Efroni

Analyst

Okay, got it. And maybe a follow-up question.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Yep, go ahead.

Operator

Operator

Oh, apologies. Our next question comes from Umer Raffat of Evercore. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Umer Raffat

Analyst

Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. I have a couple here, if I may. Perhaps first, Richard, I know you spoke to the AUSTEDO dynamic, but could you remind us, is it about half of it, which is Medicare? Because I was trying to think about potential IRA inclusion in 2027, and if half the sales have a 25% price cut, wouldn't it mean AUSTEDO could be flat in 2027? So, I'm just trying to think about the $2.5 billion number, and maybe that's broadly the ballpark, not precisely to the dot, but just wanted to put that in perspective. Secondly, on TL1A, could you confirm there was not any interim analysis? Thank you very much.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Hi, Umer, thanks for the question. So, I'll answer the first part and then I'll let Eric answer the other one, just so Eric can talk. I don't want him to go through the hour without talking. So, answering the question on AUSTEDO, look, I think as I said in my first comments, we have taken into account the IRA with AUSTEDO. And we thought about that long and hard last year because we only set the $2.5 billion. We knew that would be challenged for many reasons. And so, we wanted to be sure. Now, so we have taken into account. Now, one of the things you've highlighted is we don’t know how this is going to play out accurately. And we're going to learn a lot in the next few weeks, and we're going to learn a lot in the next six months. And that allows us to refine the assumptions we made and those predictions we made. But I feel confident because of the fact that we took it into account right at the start, and I think that was the most important thing. So, as that becomes even clearer, more accurate, we'll come back to you, Umer, and everybody else to give you an update on that. But I feel we're in a good position. With regard to the TL1A, I'll hand that to Eric. So, over to you, Eric.

Eric Hughes

Analyst

And thank you, Umer, for the question. And I can confirm, there's been no interim analysis for our TL1A program. The study remains blinded. We're just very excited that we're able to accelerate the enrollment, get the full data set going so that we can bring that into 2024 in the fourth quarter. This is agreed upon by our DMC, and we're excited just to accelerate the program so we have a full data set by the end of the year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Glen Santangelo of Jefferies. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Glen Santangelo

Analyst

Yes, thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted - two quick ones for me. First, I wanted to follow up on the strength of the generics business. I mean, Richard, you obviously called out the contribution from Revlimid, epinephrine, and Truxima. I think you also mentioned Victoza in the press release, but that seems like it was launched right before the end of the quarter. And so, I'm just trying to think about the growth outlook in the second half of the year in the generics business relative to the first just sort of given the unique characteristics of the Revlimid agreement, offset potentially by the recent launch of Victoza and maybe what's going on with SIMLANDI, et cetera. So, if you could just sort of frame the second half for us versus the first half. And then my second question maybe is for Eli. I'm just kind of curious if you can give us a rough sense of the profitability characteristics of the TAPI business so we can maybe start to get some working assumptions about the potential proceeds from this divestment in 2025. Thanks.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thanks for the question, Glen. So, I'll start with the first one on generics and then hand over to Eli. So, I think you've highlighted a number of the variables which have made the performance of our generics business in the US strong and perform well. And I think as Eli has highlighted, that is part of why we're raising our guidance for the year, is our generics business is performing well across the globe as well. So, I think we remain confident that the strategy we're executing around our generics business is paying out well. I would also like to highlight, and I think it's well understood that when it comes to Revlimid, the majority of sales occur in Q2 and Q3. And so, obviously you see the slowdown there from a Revlimid contribution in Q4. But at the same time, we've got Victoza that we've launched and we've seen a good start to that. And we have some other complex generics that we're going to be launching in Q3 and Q4. So, our aim. going back to the strategy, is always to keep focusing on our pipeline and bring it to the market as fast as possible. But to answer your question, yep, the guidance has been moved because of some of our innovative products, but also our generics business. Over to you, Eli.

Eli Kalif

Analyst

Yes. So, we are in a very mature process, I will say with the API. We will come with more, better updates in the next quarter. We're not providing actually any prediction about the proceeds because we want to respect the process with the potential buyers and our advisors that are helping us in these transactions. And so, we just need to be a bit patient.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thanks for the questions, Glen.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Schott of J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Chris Schott

Analyst

Great, thanks so much for the questions. First question was just on the biosimilar Stelara market. Assuming, given the launch next year, you're starting to have some payer discussions, I’m just wondering if you see any similarities or relevant differences we should think about relative to how biosimilar Humira shaped up. My second question was on the Olanzapine LAI opportunity. Can you just elaborate a little bit more about how you're thinking about the market development? And specifically, do you think of this as largely a conversion of oral Olanzapine, or is it an opportunity to convert existing LAI products? And maybe a second part to that Olanzapine question. There does seem to be a lot of enthusiasm for the muscarinics that are going to be launching in 2025 and 2026. Does that factor at all in terms of how you think about an uptake for Olanzapine LAI, if physicians are kind of excited to try a new mechanism in their tougher patients, could that be a hurdle at all to getting penetration with Olanzapine LAI? Thanks so much.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thanks, Chris. Appreciate the questions. So, starting with the biosimilar of Stelara, I think a couple of things that I think play out here is, one, from our perspective - I'll talk them from our perspective and from the markets. From our perspective, we know we're going to be able to launch in February 2025. We've had approval from the FDA. And so, that allows us to plan effectively. We probably didn't have that luxury in the past with biosimilar Humira because of the challenges we faced, as you know. Now, we can't start talking to payers until six months prior to February because that's part of the agreement. But there's many things that we have learned through biosimilar Humira, as well as the time we'll have for the team to plan for that. So, I think that sets us up better. With regard to the market, how is that going to play out? What I've learned from my time launching lots of biosimilars, particularly in Europe as well is, no one biosimilar is the same. That said, I would say the people, the PBMs, the payers, the channel, are becoming more knowledgeable and have an increasing appetite for the benefit of biosimilars, and that will play favorably for Stelara. So, I think the market's changing, becoming more receptive. We are getting more experience in how to bring these products to the market in this dynamic market. So, I think that gives us a positive encouragement for how we can launch Stelara. Now, moving on to the Olanzapine opportunity, you are right. There is a lot of excitement around this. And the reason why there's a lot of excitement is Olanzapine is the number one prescribed molecule for treating schizophrenia. And it's the number one because it's considered the most…

Eric Hughes

Analyst

Yes. Thank you, Richard. And it's exciting to see developments in the schizophrenia space. It's always good for patients, but to emphasize some things that Richard said, the value in UZEDY and Olanzapine LAI, is the long-acting injectable. And the fact that they're well-known, tried and true medications that physicians use. So, that change won't happen overnight. I think the value that we're launching and the science of where treatment of schizophrenia is going is in these convenient, easily used, convenient injectables that are easy for the patient to take. So, that's the value and I think that that will stay for quite a while.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Thanks, Eric, and Chris, thanks for the question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Yifeng Liu of HSBC. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Yifeng Liu

Analyst

Thank you for taking my question. I've got two. The first one is on your sort of early-stage innovative assets. Just wonder how you're thinking about these assets and is the collaboration with Sanofi on TL1A something to refer to in the future? Or you are also thinking about doing the whole development in-house? And my second question is on the guidance. So, in the event of the TL1A possible Phase 3 happening, so is there any sort of milestone baked in this current guidance update? Thank you.

Richard Francis

Analyst

Okay, thanks for the question. So, we are very excited about our innovative pipeline, and as Eric's outlined, I think just to clarify something, the TL1A is in partnership with Sanofi. So, the development of that into Phase 3 will be - the Phase 3 execution will be done by our partner Sanofi, which we're very excited about because of their experience. With regards to the guidance, there are no milestones in this guidance for this year because we'll actually be moving into Phase 3 next year. And as per our agreement that we announced, any milestone will occur once we enter Phase 3. So, if that does happen, that will be happening in 2025. But thanks for your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we currently have no further questions, so I'll hand back to Richard for any further remarks.

Richard Francis

Analyst

So, I'd just like to thank everybody for dialing in and having the interest in Teva. We very much appreciate that. And thank you for your time, and look forward to giving you an update on the performance of Teva and pivot to growth in Q3. Thank you. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

Thank you all for joining today's call. You may now disconnect your lines.