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Q4 2011 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 24, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the TDS and U.S. Cellular Fourth Quarter Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Jane McCahon, Vice President of Corporate Relations for TDS. Thank you. Ms. McCahon, you may begin.

Jane W. McCahon

Analyst

Thank you, Lewis. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. I want to make sure you are all aware of the quarterly conference call presentation we've prepared to accompany our comments this morning, which you can find on the Investor Relations pages of the TDS and U.S. Cellular websites. With me today and offering prepared comments, from TDS, Kenneth Meyers, Executive Vice President and CFO; from U.S. Cellular, Mary Dillon, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Steve Campbell, Executive Vice President and CFO; and from TDS Telecom, Dave Wittwer, President and CEO; and Vicki Villacrez, Vice President of Finance and CFO. This call is being simultaneously webcast on the Investor Relations' sections of both the TDS and U.S. Cellular websites. Please see those websites for slides referred to on this call, including non-GAAP reconciliations. The information set forth in the presentation and discussed during this call contains statements about expected future events and financial results that are forward-looking and subject to risks and uncertainties. Please review the Safe Harbor paragraphs in our releases and the more extended versions that will be included in our SEC filings. Shortly after we released our earnings results this morning and before this call, TDS and U.S. Cellular filed SEC Form 8-K current reports, including the press releases we issued this morning. Both companies plan to file their SEC Form 10-Ks later this afternoon. In the next couple of weeks, we'll be attending 2 conferences: Morgan Stanley on February 28 in San Francisco; and Raymond James, March 7 in Orlando; and we will also be hosting analyst visits during CTIA in New Orleans on May 9. If you'd like to meet us in any of these events, let me know and we'll try to accommodate you if at all possible, and keep in mind that we have an open-door policy. So if you're ever in the Chicago area and would like to meet with members of management from TDS Corporate, U.S. Cellular or TDS Telecom, the Investor Relations team will try to accommodate you, calendars permitting. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken Meyers.

Kenneth Meyers

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

Thank you, Jane. Good morning. TDS ended 2011 in a strong position, with revenues up 4%, operating income up 22% and net income available common up 38%. We ended the year with a strong balance sheet, ample credit lines and for the most part, no unfunded pension liabilities. As you know, we termed out most of our debt during the year, pushing it out to 49 years. All of this gives us significant financial flexibility as we continue to position our companies for future growth. In 2011, TDS incurred a federal net operating tax loss attributable to the 100% bonus depreciation rules that were in effect, that resulted in current savings of cash taxes. Related future federal tax liabilities are accrued as a component of net deferred income tax liabilities on the balance sheet. TDS expects federal income tax payments to substantially increase to remain at higher levels for several years as the amount of the TDS federal tax depreciation deduction substantially decreases, as a result of us having taken the accelerated depreciation in previous years. This expectation assumes that federal bonus depreciation provisions are not enacted in future periods. Also in the fourth quarter, there were some unusual expenses in tax items that I'll comment on, related to the share consolidation project. We had $7.2 million in expense that was not tax deductible for tax purposes, and there was a $6-million adjustment to correct deferred tax balances related to tax basis on some of the U.S. Cellular partnerships. We completed a share consolidation in January. As part of the consolidation, we issued approximately 4.9 million additional shares to our shareholders. Even though completed in January, the accounting rules require us to retroactively adjust shares outstanding. Therefore, EPN -- therefore, EPS as of December 31 for the incremental 4.9 million…

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Thank you, Ken, and good morning, everyone. U.S. Cellular's results reflect the continuing challenges of an extremely competitive market and a sluggish economy, in which all carriers continue to fight for a dwindling pool of new subscribers, and the cost of acquiring switchers are significant. On a positive note, as shown on Slide 8, fourth quarter retail gross additions were 298,000, up from 292,000 in the prior year quarter, and up from 284,000 in the third quarter. These results are evidence of our progress and increasing awareness with consumers and improving our sales execution. With respect to net additions, in the postpaid segment, there was a net loss of 20,000 customers, as the increase in gross additions was offset by an increase in churn. However, as Mary Dillon will discuss in her comments, we did have positive postpaid net additions in December, the most competitive selling season of the year. In the prepaid segment, we had an increase of 7,000 customers. So in total, we lost 13,000 retail customers in the fourth quarter of this year, compared to a net loss of 21,000 last year. Our churn results are shown on Slide 9. Postpaid churn increased to 1.63% from 1.52% last year, which we attribute primarily to the launch of the new iPhone, the first new version introduced in the fourth quarter and across 3 national carriers, spanning a broader portion of our footprint. We continue to add customers to our Belief Plans, in fact, 354,000 more during the fourth quarter, as they recognize the value and exceptional service that we provide. We currently have 3.1 million customers on our Belief Plans, which is critical to controlling and reducing churn, as customers on our Belief Plans who are out of contract, have significantly lower churn rates than legacy customers who…

Mary Dillon

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Thank you, Steve. Today, I'm going to focus mainly on our strategic priority for 2012, and then we'll finish with our financial expectations for the year. First, however, let's take a moment to look at Slide 13 and what we accomplished in 2011. I'm very proud to lead U.S. Cellular and our talented associates, as they are dedicated to keeping us competitive by making sure we give every customer an outstanding wireless experience. It's important to note that we've been able to provide award-winning customer experiences, while also improving our efficiency and paying close attention to the bottom line. In 2011, we increased total revenue per customer by 6%. We achieved this by increasing smartphone penetration and migrating more customers to higher ARPU Belief Plans and through a higher inbound roaming driven by increased data use. We've also built a competitive lineup of devices that appeal to a wide variety of customers. We want our customers to have the right device, not necessarily the most expensive device, and we encourage our associates to really take the time to understand each customer's unique needs. Having a wide -- a wider variety of device cost points also helps us to better manage loss on equipment, so that as Steve said, we were able to keep our average subsidy per device constant, even as we sold 28% more smartphones in the fourth quarter. This is just one of the ways for controlling or reducing expenses, and these efforts have helped to improve our bottom line. Now that said, our biggest challenge in 2011 was difficulty in growing our subscriber base. However, we are making progress. Our postpaid gross adds in the fourth quarter were better, both year-over-year and sequentially till the iPhone launch and aggressive competitive promotions drove churn up for a net…

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

So our guidance for the full year 2012 is contained in today's press release, and it's also shown on Slide 19 of our presentation. As you can see, we're projecting service revenues of $4.05 billion to $4.15 billion, reflecting continued improvements in ARPU and roaming, as Mary just said, although roaming is not expected to grow at the same rate as it did last year. Offsetting that growth will be the impact of subscriber losses in 2011 flowing through the 2012 results, anticipating the impact of the launch of the new version of the iPhone and the expected loss of $16 million of ETC revenues beginning in July. Operating cash flow is expected to be in the range of $800 million to $900 million. Depreciation, amortization and accretion of approximately $600 million, which then leads to operating income of between $200 million to $300 million. And finally, capital expenditures are expected to be approximately $850 million. I should note that this guidance is based on U.S. Cellular's current plans. New developments or changing conditions, such as the rate of growth and data usage, or the rate of deployment of 4G, could affect our plans and therefore our capital expenditures and operating expenses. Other factors influencing our current thinking about 2012 results include significant risks related to service plan pricing and equipment subsidies. And while we're intensely focused on growing our subscriber base in 2012, we just don't have the visibility to predict the degree to which we'll be successful in that regard. Mary?

Mary Dillon

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Thank you, Steve. To summarize our plans for the year, our highest priority is to drive subscriber growth by increasing net postpaid additions through the combination of relevant devices, price plans, advertising and promotion, along with our great customer experience. We plan to drive ARPU growth through continued smartphone penetration. We'll also strengthen our business through expanded points of distribution. We'll continue to invest in operational initiatives that will enable us to improve efficiency and ultimately reduce operational costs, all toward our goal of continuing to improve profitability. And importantly, we'll bring 4G network speeds and devices to over half of our markets to support our ARPU goals. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Vicki Villacrez and Dave Wittwer for a discussion of TDS Telecom. Vicki?

Vicki Villacrez

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Thank you, Mary. Good morning, everyone. As shown on Slide 22, TDS Telecom's fourth quarter performance was highlighted by: one, the continued growth in ILEC data revenues, including the effects of hosted and managed service acquisitions; two, ongoing initiatives to stabilize traditional wireline revenues and line losses; and three, our continued cost control efforts. Turning to Slide 23. Revenues for telecoms combined operations, including hosted and managed services, were up 4% from last year. ILEC revenue grew 6% with HMS acquisitions and our growth in high-speed data more than offsetting declines in traditional voice and network access revenues. CLEC revenues were down 3%, as the decrease caused by the declining number of U.S. [ph] residential customers exceeded the increase in commercial revenues for the quarter of 1.1%. Turning to Slide 24. ILEC data revenues increased 45% in the fourth quarter, driven by acquisitions and growth in hosted and managed services. The growth in high-speed data subscriber additions earlier in the year also contributed to data revenues with subscribers growing 5% year-on-year. We continue to attract new customers, and they are taking higher speeds. The number of data subscribers taking speeds of 5 megabits or greater is now 57%, and 17% are taking speeds greater than 10 megabits. Our residential DSL penetration was 62% of primary residential lines, and residential DSL ARPU remained stable at $37 as migration to higher-speed service offsets competitive pricing pressures. The decline in ILEC revenues was driven by the continued trends in physical access line loss, as you can see on Slide 25. Line losses slowed to 5%, as our Star voice packages continue to help us mitigate line loss. At year end, we had 198,000 customers on these plans, which are 56% of our residential customer base, up from 46% from this time last year.…

David Wittwer

Analyst · Gabelli

Thanks, Vicki, and good morning, everyone. I'll discuss our accomplishments in 2011, and most importantly, what we have planned and are already working on in 2012. First, I'll recap our accomplishments for the year as outlined on Slide 29. We made important progress on our residential and commercial business strategy. TDS Telecom has made the transition to a broadband company with 94% of our access lines having data access. And in 2011, we focused most of our network investment on increasing broadband speeds to remain competitive. A key part of our residential strategy is bundling, and we ended the year with 2/3 of our ILEC residential customers on double or triple play bundles, which have very low rates of churn. Another way we're retaining residential customers and increasing revenues is through our proprietary IPTV service, TDS TV. We are launching TDS TV in 2 markets to fine tune the service, and have prepared our network for further expansion. This video service, along with our DISH Network offering, will be a strong component of our bundling strategy going forward. In our commercial business, we continue to grow the number of stations of our managedIP, voice and data communication product. And we added important features and expanded the product portfolio in response to customer needs. We also continue to build our hosted and managed services business with the acquisition of OneNeck IT Services, an IT outsourcing and managed services provider with a global client list. And we expanded 2 of our data center facilities due to increased customer demand for capacity. We're building our business for long-term and that means investing in our infrastructure. We improved several key operational systems in 2011 to make our ordering, inventory and provisioning processes more efficient, and we'll continue that work in 2012. Moving to Slide…

Vicki Villacrez

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Thank you, Dave. In terms of our 2012 guidance, we expect revenue in the range of $810 million to $840 million, as data growth from our broadband offerings and HMS business offset declines in network access and voice revenue. We are forecasting operating cash flow to be in the range of $245 million to $275 million, which would be a decrease from 2011. This is partly because we had several discrete gains during 2011, totaling $9.4 million, that will not be repeated this year. The other factor to consider is that we are expecting a continued decrease in network access revenues, including the initial impact of USF reform, which will cut safety-net support. While we are not -- while we are offsetting those revenues with data revenues, we're not doing so at the same margin levels. Depreciation, amortization and accretion is expected to be approximately $190 million, leading to operating income of $55 million to $85 million. Lastly, we expect CapEx to be in the range of $150 million to $180 million. Our CapEx is driven in part by the investment we are making to enhance our network, deliver competitive broadband services and improve our systems that support sales and customer service processes. Included over $30 million of success-based spending, related for optimism [ph], we have over the ability to expand our IPTV offering and our continued success with managedIP and high-speed data. CapEx will also be driven by the strategic initiatives that Dave had highlighted, particularly, one, the high-speed network deployment to support future data products and video capability, in the range of approximately $30 million; broadband stimulus funding, approximately $25 million of our own funds in 2012; and HMS, approximately $15 million. So to summarize, we feel confident about our prospects for future growth, and we look forward to reporting further progress as we move throughout the year. Thank you for your interest, and now I'll turn the call back over to Jane.

Jane W. McCahon

Analyst

Thanks, Vicki. Lewis, we'll be ready to take questions. And Alan Ferber, who's our Executive Vice President, Chief Strategy and Brand Officer at U.S. Cellular, will also join us for the Q&A period.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Rick Prentiss from Raymond James Financial.

Ric Prentiss

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

A couple questions. I'd like to start on the whole USF access items. On the U.S. Cellular side, I think I heard you say you expect $16 million in the ETC to affect in July. Was that an annual number or is that the half year effect?

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

That's the half year effect. We -- as we understand the order, we'd start to see a reduction of 20% per year effective July 1. So roughly about 10% of our revenue for this year, which was in the range of about $160 million. So that's how we're forecasting the $16 million, so half year effect.

Ric Prentiss

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Half year effect. And then on the TDS side, you mentioned briefly the negative effect of the USF and access. Can you quantify for us how much is in the ILEC and in the CLEC as far as the impacts?

Vicki Villacrez

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Sure. As Dave said, it's difficult for us to say what level of support we might receive under this new arrangement and what the impact of the order may have from a long-term perspective. But based on what we know today, is -- which is not a complete picture, as you know, there's a number of issues related to the rate of return carriers that impact us, that have not yet been resolved. So having said that, we do expect to lose about $3 million of USF support, that's primarily related to the flash cut of our safety-net funding, and that's a year-over-year number.

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

So, Rick, it's Steve. I want to add to my earlier response too, because something Vicki said triggered an idea with me, which is the reduction that we're projecting for ETC, of course, doesn't assume at this point any receipt of funds under the new mobility funds that have been created. That would still be somewhat uncertain as to what we get -- what we'd get under those funds, if anything. So we haven't built that into our forecast at this point.

Ric Prentiss

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

And -- so that was the -- on the TDS side, the $3 million USF, there's further cuts on the access side, too, right?

Vicki Villacrez

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Yes, there will be further cuts on the access side. Right now, as we look at the access revenue and the wholesale revenue as it declined this year, we are expecting some further cuts next year, as well as a number of companies that won't qualify for the high-cost loop support. So overall, we could be -- it could be in the tune of up to about $15 million. Again, our strategy is around the IPTV and super high-speed data growth, as well as HMS to try to offset those revenue declines.

Ric Prentiss

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Right. But that $15 million is baked into your guidance?

Vicki Villacrez

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Yes, it is.

Ric Prentiss

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Okay, that helps a lot. And then switching gears, going back to wireless. I think you mentioned that you expect the new iPhone launch -- or a new iPhone launch is assumed in your guidance. Is that a second half, fourth quarter? I'm just trying to gauge when we should expect. And obviously, it's not from Apple, it's just your assumption, but just trying to gauge when you think that might affect you.

Mary Dillon

Analyst · Raymond James Financial

Yes, we don't have a specific timing assumption built in. We're just presuming that at some time in 2012, there's likely to be another iPhone launch.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Phil Cusick from JPMorgan.

Philip Cusick

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

So I guess start on ARPU. First, can you talk about the loyalty points? I think you said $0.23. Is that sort of incremental drag versus the third quarter number, or is that the total drag you're experiencing now? And at what point do you expect that's more of a steady-state run rate?

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

Phil, it's Steve. So the number that I quoted was actually $0.73. I'm sorry if that didn't come through.

Philip Cusick

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

That's probably my handwriting, not you.

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

And that's actually the net -- the drag on the third -- I'm sorry, the fourth quarter. That's not a comparative number. That's simply what the impact on the fourth quarter number would be. As far as when we would get to a steady state, I mean, as we grow the base, as customers continue to reward points, I think, first of all, we've had the plans in place about a year now. So we may be getting to the point where you could say year-on-year, we'd be getting to a steady state, but assuming that we continue to grow the base, which is our intention, we think that there could actually be some increase in that number over time.

Philip Cusick

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

Okay. And in terms of ARPU accretion and given the acceleration in the fourth quarter, it seems like this ramp up could go through 2012. Is that fair or do you expect that you're sort of going to get to a steady state on smartphones and then sort of stall out?

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

No, I think it's fair to say that we believe that we will have incremental or incremental growth in ARPU as we go into and through 2012. I think when you look at our smartphone penetration, where we're at today at roughly 30% of our base, we feel like we've got quite a bit of headroom there, actually, when you compare that to what penetration other carriers have. So we think there's still ample room for growth in ARPU as a result of smartphone penetration.

Philip Cusick

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

Great. And then if we can get into margins a little bit -- or I guess, the cost. Can you help us think about how you expect to see cost of service to ramp through this year, and between the LTE network build and what sounds like a little bit of a ramp in your own roaming costs, how should we look for that to grow?

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

Well, again, I think it's somewhat implied by our guidance. You see certainly at the midpoint of the range, we've got about 1% overall growth in service revenues, where ARPU growth will drive some of that. We expect continuing growth in roaming, as we said, although more modest than we saw in 2011. But when you look at our guidance on operating cash flow at the midpoint to the high end, you see a number that's somewhat flat to some growth. So I think in terms of overall costs, you got some competing things there. For one thing, there are added costs associated with the LTE deployment. But another factor is that this is a big year for us in terms of progress on our major enablement initiatives. So there's going to be a significant increase in operating expenses associated with the development and testing and so forth on the billing system. Also remember that, that $16 million of ETC revenue is nearly -- virtually 100% margin and falls to the bottom line. So I think we've got some competing things going on there in terms of margin contribution.

Mary Dillon

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

Right, and you see, I was just going to add -- to build on that. In addition, of course, we're focused very keenly on managing costs across all of everything we do. So whether it's continued focus on having smartphones at sub-$200 price points in the portfolio, data management, things within our network, Wi-Fi offload, compression, continuing to look at the ability to be even more efficient and effective with our marketing spend. So while we, of course, have costs going up, we're also looking to manage costs and continue to manage costs across the rest of the business as well.

Philip Cusick

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

Okay. And just maybe one last one. Given where we are: higher CapEx, lower margins in 2012, when do you think U.S. Cellular can get back to a sort of cash generating mode? Is that possible in '13, or is that a little optimistic?

Kenneth Meyers

Analyst · Phil Cusick from JPMorgan

I'm going to step in on this one. Phil, it's Ken. '13 is definitely a possibility. I think there are 2 huge unknowns at this point in time that cloud the picture. One is going to be the continued evolution of the product set, with more and more smartphones driving the handset costs. It drives the revenue which is great, but it's got the front-end cost, and that's going to affect margins this year. And quite frankly, the more it affects margins this year, the less next year, to the extent that it takes a little bit longer, it's going to flow into next year, right? And following up on the sale of the smartphone has been the explosive data growth that has got a double effect on your network right now. One effect is the company is rapidly pushing out LTE now and building that into the network. It's got double operating cost because they're doing that, but we've got the double -- we've got the expense or the capital expense of putting that out there. At the same time, we still have bulk of our customers, all of our customers today sitting there on EVDO using the data products. And so you're investing in effect for 2 networks at the same time. So depending upon the pace of the first one, I think it's going to have a big impact on whether it's '13 or not.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Simon Flannery from Morgan Stanley.

Simon Flannery

Analyst · Simon Flannery from Morgan Stanley

A couple of questions for Mary. Mary, you talked about December being a good month for you. Perhaps you can just talk about what exactly was going on there. Were you able to get the churn back down again, or was there an acceleration in gross ads? And is this something that you've seen extend in 2012? And maybe you can also contrast the iPhone 4S launch with what had happened with iPhone 4 and what had happened when Verizon got the iPhone 4. And then on the LTE rollout, where are you in terms of data roaming and the potential to get some roaming agreements to give people a larger footprint on the LTE devices?

Mary Dillon

Analyst · Simon Flannery from Morgan Stanley

Sure. Yes, in December, we were really pleased to see the outcome of what I think was a culmination of continuing to sharpen how we create demand in the marketplace and how we execute in our stores. So we saw improvement on our gross ad performance sequentially, as well as year-over-year. And we are comparing ourselves to last year, a more expensive promotion, where we had a more lucrative phone offer as well as a much more intense competitive environment with the iPhone being available at multiple carriers, at multiple price points. So the fact that we were able to grow our gross ads in December indicates that we're improving on what we're trying to do, which is be more relevant to our customer -- our target customers, with the right communications and offering. So we are pleased by that. And we also though -- and we came out with positive net ads in December, so that was great. Having said that, we have seen an uptick in churn. So as we look into this year, we're continuing to see some progress in gross ads, but we're continuing to see somewhat elevated churn. It's not terribly surprising to us given the competitive environment. And you can imagine that we're extremely focused on continuing to do the things that are going well for us in terms of fighting for gross ads and getting some of those growing, but also churn mitigation and continuing to launch LTE, have the right smartphone offerings, sharpen our marketing tools, as well as really look to expand even where we sell, our points of distribution. So it's kind of a story of 2 things, and we're going to continue to work on the things that are working well and manage the churn. Your next question, Simon, about the iPhone, I'll ask Alan to take that one. I would say just -- with certainly more carriers and more price points, it had more impact.

Alan Ferber

Analyst · Simon Flannery from Morgan Stanley

Yes, I think that is the short answer. Certainly, the iPhone 4S launch had a bigger impact than the iPhone 4 launch with Verizon earlier in the year. There's really a couple of drivers there: one is just timing. So this is the first iPhone launch in the fourth quarter; second, it's across multiple carriers; and third, it's multiple carriers with iPhone at multiple price points, and we didn't have that situation earlier in the year. With regard to your last question on LTE data roaming, certainly something we are very, very focused on, really 2 pieces have to actually come together. One is the – obviously, the agreements. But the other is more on the device side. Our first devices won't have the same LTE frequency as the larger national carriers. So as we move and evolve our devices over time, that'll open up additional data roaming opportunities.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of James Moorman from S&P Capital IQ.

James Moorman

Analyst · James Moorman from S&P Capital IQ

First, just a little bit on your LTE rollout and the handsets you look to have. We've heard MetroPCS yesterday talking, as they look to really expand this as they see device price coming down in the second half. But knowing that you -- and I know you've been very disciplined with turning down the iPhone, but how do you look at this in terms of going after the real popular devices versus going at the lower end devices? And also, if you could just talk about what you're seeing -- you're talking about going to metered data pricing, is this more just in anticipation of LTE and a higher data capacity? Or are you seeing anything with the number of Android devices and any strains on the network now?

Alan Ferber

Analyst · James Moorman from S&P Capital IQ

This is Alan again. So let me take tiered data pricing first. As we said in the past, we really have 2 main drivers around tiered data pricing. One is to be able to provide a lower entry point for our customers to get into a smartphone. The second is to monetize the growth in data usage. So that's for both EVDO and LTE. With regard to LTE devices, certainly the first devices are going to be higher than our average smartphone costs. We do expect those costs to come down fairly rapidly by the fourth quarter of this year or the first quarter of next year. And we expect, as we mentioned earlier, to launch about 6 to 8 devices this year, smartphones, tablets, modems and Wi-Fi hotspots. And we expect the smartphone portion of that will become much more -- to be available at multiple price points by the end of this year.

Operator

Operator

Our last question comes from Sergey Dluzhevskiy from Gabelli.

Sergey Dluzhevskiy

Analyst · Gabelli

Just got a couple questions for you. One question on your spectrum position, if you can talk a little bit about your spectrum position and whether you have sufficient spectrum, and your estimates to meet kind of medium churn data needs of your customers given the strong growth that obviously you're seeing and as you roll out LTE and at what point you think you may need to add to your spectrum in a meaningful way. And given, I guess, recent spectrum language that came out from the FCC, what are the main sources of spectrum in your opinion that you will have realistic access to in the next few years?

Mary Dillon

Analyst · Gabelli

Sergey, it's Mary. A couple -- let me take the first part, which is in terms of our spectrum [indiscernible] that we feel we've got a good 700 megahertz spectrum position. It's not perfect. We're going to look to continue to add to that. But between our 700 megahertz with our partner, King Wireless -- King Street Wireless in our AWS position, that's what we're using to roll out LTE. And in terms of our voice and data services, we've got strong -- a good spectrum position on the other frequency. So we feel confident about our current spectrum position relative to our LTE rollout plans. And we're going to continue to look for other sources of spectrum. And as you indicate, whether it's spectrum that comes on the markets through this current order, which will take some time, as well as just continuing to look at the marketplace, we will keep our options open. But we feel good about our current position.

Steven Campbell

Analyst · Gabelli

So I think on the second part of your question, you were probably referring to the legislation that was signed earlier this week related to incentive auctions. So I guess our thoughts on that is that it's probably going to be sometime before any of the spectrum is actually available for commercial use since the FCC still needs some time to adopt auction rules, actually conduct the auction, broadcasters will need time to clear the spectrum and so forth. So I don't think it's clear at this point. In fact, we probably won't know for some time what opportunities for spectrum acquisition, those incentive actions might create for U.S. Cellular. That said, we're actually very pleased that the Congressional negotiators reached agreement on incentive auction legislation. We think, obviously, the need for additional spectrum is key to future delivery of broadband services, and so we applaud both Congress and the Obama administration for their work on what we think is a real crucial bill. I think, for now, it's monitor and stay close and assess opportunity for U.S. Cellular.

Sergey Dluzhevskiy

Analyst · Gabelli

All right. And last question on the managed sources and hosting space. Obviously, you've had -- you've made a few acquisitions there and you indicated that you're looking for more acquisitions to add to your capabilities. Could you comment a little bit more about your longer-term strategy in this space and maybe what kind of services or solutions are you looking to add to your portfolio, and what kind of scale do you seek to achieve in this segment, in the medium term, let's say?

David Wittwer

Analyst · Gabelli

Sergey, this is Dave. When we think about this service set, we believe that the distinction between telecom services and IT services continues to blur. And so our goal is to create a broad set of IT-like services that we can offer to our commercial customers. We have the co-location assets now. We have some of them. We have the hosted application management services in OneNeck. Obviously, there are other pieces that we think could be valuable, more cloud computing capabilities, having more capabilities relative to managing that server infrastructure for customers, security services, those types of activities. So we can offer that complete package. Where that likely stops is becoming -- we're not interested in becoming an application developer as an example, software developer, doing custom software applications. That's not where we think that spot needs to be. I think we obviously haven't talked a lot about how large we expect that to be, but I think it's reasonable to assume that if you get into a business like this, you need to make it meaningful. We have a large base of customer, commercial customers that we can go after. So we're -- our expectations are that we can continue to grow this business at a reasonable pace.

Operator

Operator

There are no further -- that was the last question. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jane McCahon for closing comments.

Jane W. McCahon

Analyst

I'd like to thank you all for your participation today. We look forward to seeing you either at one of the upcoming conferences or at CTIA. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.