Good afternoon. My name is Matt, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Teradata Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host today, Christopher Lee, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. You may begin your conference.

Good afternoon, and welcome to Teradata's 2023 third quarter earnings call. Stephen McMillan, Teradata's President and Chief Executive Officer, will lead our call today; followed by Claire Bramley, Teradata's Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss our financial results and outlook. Our discussion today includes forecasts and other information that are considered forward-looking statements. While these statements reflect our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risk factors are described in today's earnings release and in our SEC filings including our most recent Form 10-K and in the Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2023, that is expected to be filed with the SEC within the next few days. These forward-looking statements are made as of today, and we undertake no duty or obligation to update them. On today's call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures, which exclude such items as stock-based compensation expense, and other special items described in our earnings release. We will also discuss other non-GAAP items such as free cash flow and constant currency revenue comparisons. Unless stated otherwise, all numbers and results discussed on today's call are on a non-GAAP basis. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures is included in our earnings release. which is accessible on the Investor Relations page of our website at investor.teradata.com. A replay of this conference call will be available later today on our website. And now I will turn the call over to Steve.

Thanks, Chris, and hi, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Teradata delivered another solid quarter in Q3. We continued to steadily advance in our transformation as a leading cloud analytics and data platform. I'm pleased with our market momentum and the team's consistent execution and I'm grateful for the trust placed in us by our customers and partners. In the quarter, total ARR grew 11% year-on-year sequential total ARR dollar growth was $14 million in constant currency with positive contributions from both cloud and on-prem subscriptions. Customer demand increased as enterprises continued to utilize our modern platform and helping them drive business critical insights. We grew cloud ARR 63% year-on-year against a very strong Q3 last year. We grew cloud ARR in all regions through a balance of migrations and expansions. Cloud ARR is now 30% of total ARR, up 10 percentage points year-over-year. Our cloud net expansion rate was 123%. We are seeing continued strong interest and pipeline growth in VantageCloud Lake. With execution across the organization, our continued market momentum and disciplined cost management. We delivered non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.42, which grew 38% year-over-year. I am proud of the team's performance, and I'm very pleased with our innovation that position Teradata to lead in AI and particularly trusted AI. I'll start there. At Teradata, we believe people thrive when empowered with better information, our analytics perform with speed to deliver better insights that drive more confident decisions. While interest in AI is accelerating, a key to AI success is being able to trust in the data, which has put Teradata has always pervaded. We strongly believe that our best-in-class cloud analytics and data platform, that levers harmonized data, trusted AI and fastener innovation for better decision-making. That convection data does in our recent acquisition of Stemma,…

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. I would like to reinforce Steve's comments on our continued momentum and consistent execution that ensured we delivered another quarter of solid results. A notable highlight in the quarter was our cloud net expansion rate of 123%, a sequential increase of 200 basis points. We have sustained and increased our cloud momentum as a result of greater market awareness and customer demand. Migrations and expansions have equally contributed to the reported $40 million of sequential cloud ARR growth, slightly ahead of our expectations, resulting in an increase of 63% year-over-year. Another highlight was the repurchase of approximately $141 million of stock, resulting in a year-to-date return of free cash flow of 161%. We took advantage of our strong balance sheet and cash flow generation to repurchase 2.9 million shares. We believe this was a prudent allocation of capital and exceeds our commitment to return at least 75% of free cash flow to shareholders in 2023. As we enter our seasonally strongest quarter, we remain on track to achieve the outlook ranges we previously provided for 2023. This is despite incremental unplanned currency headwinds we now anticipate in the fourth quarter. I will cover more on our annual outlook shortly. We remain steadfast on executing against our cloud first profitable growth strategy with the goal of continuously increasing shareholder value. Let me now share more details on our financial results, starting with revenue. Third quarter recurring revenue was $360 million, 9% growth year-over-year as reported and 10% growth year-over-year in constant currency. Year-over-year recurring revenue growth was led by a strong increase in cloud revenue. Continued go-to-market execution resulted in all 3 regions experiencing strong cloud revenue growth year-over-year. Recurring revenue as a percentage of total revenue was 82%. There was no year-over-year impact from…

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Howard Ma. Your line is now open.

Great. Thank you. It's great to see the consistent execution throughout the year and as well as the cloud [ARR] [ph] our acceleration and the Q3 cloud outperformance, which lowers, I believe, the hurdle in Q4. But given that Q4 it's still your biggest quarter, so it certainly don't walk in the park. I was hoping, I guess, either for Steve or for Claire, I was hoping you could give us an inside look into plan migrations in Q4 and perhaps 2024 as well. And I guess I have a few interrelated questions. It's typically how far in advance to these migration conversations typically begin. And what is the risk of any following through and as you look ahead, are you expecting any increase in the size of these planned migrations? Thank you.

Howard, quite a lot of impact there, but thank you so much for the question. Yes, it was a great quarter in Q3, good execution across the entire business and a really good balance of migration and expansion activity in Q3. We expect that to continue in terms of that balance between migration and expansion activities in Q4. And to your point, we have very good line of sight into execution for Q4, and a pipeline of deals that supports that 2023 outlook, driven by both migrations and expansions. As you can imagine, the migrations tend to be larger deals within the pipeline and we've got a number of 7-figure and 8-figure deals in the Q4 pipeline. And we do have good visibility and visibility over time into those deals. What we do when we construct those deals for our customers, is make it commercially compelling. So that, migration to the cloud, even though at that point of migration, they usually expand their overall business with Teradata. It's actually a commercially compelling value proposition to move to the cloud. So we've got great insight into that. We're confident in the guidance that we've given for Q4 and confident in the continued execution of the team.

Next question is from the line of Erik Woodring with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Congrats on the really consistent work you guys have been putting up this year. I'm not sure if this is a question for Steve or Claire, I'll just kind of pose it to both of you guys. We're seeing really strong performance in the cloud net expansion rate. Maybe can you guess, help us think about where that metric to go over time, meaning, are we at peak here at 123%, could you see it go to $125? Could it go to $115 million? What factors would you expect to be the primary driver of your NRR really hitting each of those extremes? Just would love to get some context on how you think about 123% versus where that could actually go? And then I have a follow-up. Thank you.

Yes, Eric, I'll start by talking about expansions in general, and then maybe Claire can talk a little about it in terms from a modeling perspective and how to look at it over the long term. Clearly, we're really happy with the expansions that we're driving just now kind of up there in the best-in-class for SaaS businesses overall in terms of our cloud business. is the reason that we like taking that on-prem business to the cloud because once we get our customers in the cloud, we start to see that growth rate. We're seeing that growth in terms of those expansions cover from increased data but also increased workloads and increased use cases that are executing on the Teradata platform once it moves to the cloud things like our integration with cloud native services. One I mentioned in the conference call was with Azure OpenAI as a great example of a generative AI integration. We're starting to see that as a catalyst in the marketplace. So happy with the expansions. I'll let Claire talk to longer-term guidance.

Yes, absolutely. So we are happy with the 123% net expansion rate. What I would say, Eric, is we are still modeling approximately 120%. So we're not modeling and we don't need to be higher than the approximately 120% for us to exceed the $1 billion of cloud in 2025, for example. So at this point, the 120 million and around that mark is what we continue to model and continue to plan for '24 and '25. And absolutely keeps us on track for our long-term goals and the $1 billion in 2025.

Okay. That's very good. Thank you. And then, maybe my follow-up for you, Claire, a bit of a picky question, I just want to make sure I'm thinking about this right. You kept most of your guidance ranges unchanged except for EPS. But you did talk to a more significant FX headwind. And so should we think about for the full year, would you characterize after 3Q, your performance is outperforming and therefore, still possible to hit the midpoint of that guide? Or with the new FX headwind for 4Q, should we think? Should we be thinking about full year results towards the lower end of the guide? Just want to kind of parse that out. And that's it for me. Thanks so much.

Yes. Thanks, Eric. So as you said and as I said in my prepared remarks, we plan to be within the previously guided ranges for both reported and constant currency. So that means we're absorbing those incremental unplanned currency headwinds of approximately 150 to 200 basis points across ARR and total revenue. What that means is, I would anticipate to be around the midpoint in a constant currency standpoint of our ranges and between the mid and towards the lower end on a reported basis just because of the incremental quarter-over-quarter headwinds that we're seeing from a currency standpoint.

The next question is from the line of Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Steve, I was curious if you're seeing more use cases for GenAI in cloud or on-prem. And how would you compare the relative adoption across those for Teradata. And then I have a follow-up.

Hey, Wamsi. Yes, we are super excited about the GenAI opportunity. I spoke a little bit about that in the prepared remarks. We are already seeing our existing customers utilize and deploy large language models, GenAI, AI, advanced analytics solutions sitting on top of the Teradata enterprise warehouse. One of the things that I spoke about in the call is, we are the trusted custodians of some of the most valuable data in the world. And utilizing that data to give trusted results to these GenAI systems and large language models as part of the core value proposition that Teradata brings to the table. So you can actually execute and our customers are actually executing some of these models that sitting right on top of the platform without moving data into other ecosystems. They are utilizing their trusted enterprise data to get trusted results to improve their interactions with customers or improve their supply chain. In terms of monetary impact, I think it's something that we'll continue to monitor how it's driving overall expansion activities for us, but we're very bullish on it. And clearly, I was thinking about Teradata, not as a monolithic software architecture, but an open platform where we can integrate in some of these advanced services is going to drive more load as we move into the future.

Okay. Thanks, Steve. And a quick one for Claire. Where are you focusing on for the cost takeout that you called out? And what does that mean for the OpEx profile in terms of SG&A and R&D. R&D has been ticking up sequentially through the year? And do you still expect to repurchase shares in 4Q as you already exceeded your stated target for the year? Thank you.

Sure. Yes, let me just take the question on the cost actions. So what we're trying to do here is look at areas where we can reinvest to be able to get a higher return on investment. And really focus on the best return and driver of profitable growth. So we're not anticipating our total cost structure to come down because we're reducing in some areas and then reinvesting in other areas. We think that's going to set us up well but the fact that we are making those actions now mean that in 2024, we will also be able to get some revenue leverage as we move forward as well. So that's what we're doing from a cost action standpoint. With regards to your second question. Which I didn't write down, so maybe you can remind me, Wamsi, what your second question was?

Claire, just on buybacks, just given you've already exceeded the years, 75% target --

Yes. Those with regards to share repurchases. We are not planning to be adaptive in Q4 in the market as we were in Q3. Obviously, with the share repurchase of $141 million in Q3, that was a big quarter for us. And it was very opportunistic given where our price was during the quarter. Q4, we will continue to be opportunistic, but we're definitely not anticipating the same level share repurchase in Q4, but we will maintain the kind of opportunistic approach depending on where our share price is. We do really believe that this is a good use of our capital and good value and return to shareholders.

The next question is from the line of Chirag Ved with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Congratulations on the quarter. So net new cloud ARR was strong and with these results in mind, when you speak with your customers and prospective customers, are you getting the impression that customers today are more willing to modernize their data estates and migrate to cloud now versus perhaps 6 months or a year ago? Or do you still see some of the broader hesitation that's perhaps existed in the market for the better part of the past year that could be pushing timelines out for 2024.

So I'll take that just from a -- what we're seeing from a customer perspective is just to increase confidence in the Teradata technology platform and the ability for us to take the most complex, what loads in the world to the cloud in a very successful way. Teradata gives them a path to execute and a path to migrate to cloud that no other technology can provide to them. So we continue to see that strength in demand and strength in the pipeline. I mentioned in answer to the first question that we got in terms of, we see that pipeline continuing into Q4 for us to execute against. In terms of customer interest from a cloud perspective, we still see that as one of the top buying or investment points that customers are making. I was talking to one of the large banks a couple of weeks ago. And they look at utilizing cloud technologies is an absolute essential capability in order for them to take advantage of all of the research and development organizations like Teradata and Microsoft execute from providing these services in the cloud so that they can have a differentiating capability into the future. As well as we from a Teradata perspective, put together a compelling commercial proposition so that they are motivated to move to the cloud with us. And that enables us to get them to a point where we can expand with them in the cloud as we take advantage of these services available in that modern environment.

The next question is from the line of Chad Bennett with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

So maybe Steve or Claire, just in terms of VantageCloud lake and ClearScape, just now that we're, I think, close to annualizing or a year into market with these, and I understand you're on AWS and recently just came on Azure at the beginning of this quarter. How should we think about the contribution of those 2 products or platforms to whether it's fourth quarter cloud bookings or ARR or maybe a better indication is into next year. Are you expecting those to be material to the cloud ARR growth at some point in the next 3, 4 quarters?

Hey, Chad. It's Steve. Thanks very much for the question. I think a couple of points. I think we've said it in the past that during 2023, most of our cloud business has been driven on VantageCloud Enterprise. We're seeing that, as you pointed out, acceleration of interest and deployment new workloads on VantageCloud lake. Those tend to be smaller and grow rapidly over time. So we would expect VantageCloud lake to become more and more important from a revenue and ARR perspective as we move through 2024. What I would say is when we did our marketing event possible in Orlando. We had a major customer stand up on stage and talk about going live and moving their on-prem system, directly to VantageCloud Lake. So I think the traction that we're getting in the marketplace is super exciting, both in terms of helping with that migration opportunity but also helping with expansion. And as I said, that will become more and more relevant as we move into 2024.

Got it. And then maybe one quick follow-up. Just on a couple of the hyperscalers in their announcements recently, quarterly announcements. Well, they still mentioned kind of the headwinds from cloud customers asking for workload optimizations in the cloud. I think a couple of them were able to stabilize their year-over-year growth or increase their year-over-year growth because they are starting to see data usage around AI and LLMs actually in the last 3 months or in the quarter. I know you've talked about it in this call more than I've heard and I think the majority of your customers are on fixed contracts. But if we think about kind of the workload or data usage coming from AI or LLM, is that something that you can tangibly see in your base. I don't know if it necessarily help you from a net expansion standpoint now. But maybe up on renewal or someone getting to their caps quicker, on a fixed contract. Is there any early indications of that? Thanks.

Yes. Thanks, Chad. So I think you made some great points there. One is cloud optimization is not a trend or an impact to our business that we tend to see, given the mission-critical nature of the workloads that we execute. And both to your point, the fixed capacity nature of the contracts we have. However, all of those contracts can have the ability to have expansion and consumption ability added to them. And indeed, especially in the cloud, when we think about our net expansion rate, those expansion rates happen continuously. So we're very much moving away from that enterprise software sales motion, where the only time you do that expansion at the point of renewal. And we're continuously adding workloads and growing our customers as we move through the year. And I think there's some great capabilities that are enabled by our VantageCloud Lake product to the earlier points but also these GenAI and AI use cases are going to drive that increase in utilization, the increase in the requirement for data. But not only that, Chad, I think a really important point is that those GenAI use cases, if they are not controlled from a cost perspective, can become prohibitively expensive if they aren't run in an environment like Teradata where we have fantastic financial governance. And so, when we think about ethical and trusted AI, we think about it in terms of the outputs that are generated from those AI solutions. But we also think about it in terms of enabling our customers to trust those AI models to operate within a financially governed environment. And we'll continue to see some strength from that perspective. So I think it's going be ongoing expansions that we see across the year as we move forward.

The next question is from the line of Raimo Lenschow with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Congrats from me as well, another great solid quarter. Two questions. One on actually staying on AI. And Stephen, if you think about AI, like how do you see yourself in this kind of new world because you obviously clearly have the right data, you have to trust data as you said. But are you kind of also then the guy that people use to work the LLMs on? And what does it mean in terms of margins, gross margin aggregation, et cetera. Also in light of that, like, will people take your data, put it into a [indiscernible] database, or do they get fed directly into the large language model? There's a lot of questions, obviously, at the moment because the market is evolving so quickly, but maybe you can help us there. And then one for Claire, for cash flow for the year, I like your comments about the confidence. Can you talk a little bit about or remind us about the drivers for Q4 because, obviously, it's a big hurdle for the fourth quarter. Thank you.

Thanks, Raimo. Yes. So these large language models generated AI models. We are developing native integrations inside the platform. So you don't have to move data out. You can actually utilize an API to both open AI and also Azure open AI, just an example of some implementations of large language models. And you can do that in a governed environment, now we in Teradata, invested in analytics capabilities super early. I think you were there for some of that journey which is back in 2011, when we bought Aster. We've made significant investments in why we launched ClearScape Analytics last year was because we put all of those capabilities and database to operate at tremendous scale. So our customers cannot only utilize that ClearScape analytics capabilities, which I think we've got 5 things more. One of the analysts told us we had 5x more analytic capabilities than our nearest competitor. You can utilize those in conjunction with these large language models to develop some very complex and very differentiating use cases in terms of deployment. And you can do that all natively within Teradata utilizing the links to these large language models and the most advanced large language models as the CSPs actually provide. We're super excited about that. We think it's a great use for future use case for us. And then Claire --

Yes, sure, I'll take the question on free cash flow. So we are confident in landing within our free cash flow range of $320 million to $360 million. We're currently on track to where we anticipate it to be and have good line of sight. The big drivers that are giving us that confidence is we anticipate greater income in Q4 '23 versus the prior year and also a lower DSO. We had a very high DSO last year of 74 days. Raimo, as you probably remember, which is a bit of an anomaly. And the other thing I think that gives me confidence at this point in the quarter is that the October collections have performed better on a year-over-year basis. So that gives us good confidence for what we need to do to deliver the quarter and the full year free cash flow range.

The next question is from the line of Nehal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Congrats on a solid results here. Steve, you've talked a couple of times in your prepared remarks about an improving brand amongst both existing customers and new customers. But specifically, just help quantify the new customer opportunity here. Maybe you could characterize what percent of pipeline do these prospective customers represent today versus, say, a year ago?

Hey, Nihal. Thanks for the question. Yes, we're continuing to see great traction from a brand perspective. recognition that the Teradata technology is a great technology to deploy with on the cloud. Things like our STI interface, which really improves ease of use for the Teradata system start to unlock new users, new use cases. So that's super exciting to see. Our work with Accenture and the partners is starting to drive our ability to really put together some great solutions. We launched an Accenture use case for the retail industry. And these things are kind of building up to -- so that we have the absolute rate capabilities to win new logos. We've seen traction for new logos in both on-prem and in the cloud in Q3. We're continuing to see that grow. From a materiality perspective, these deals are smaller in size. We've always kind of characterized them as being smaller in size, start small and grow quickly. And we see that pattern continuing. We're not overly dependent on new logos for execution and to get to our Q4 number. We've got the pipeline and visibility to the pipeline for execution for Q4. And certainly, it's our objective to continue to grow new logos as we go through 2024, so that it becomes more and more meaningful in terms of the overall results of the company.

The next question is from the line of Matt Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Steve, for you, maybe just stepping back a little bit. You've talked a lot about your lake strategy and obviously, from a warehouse perspective as well. Can you talk about sort of fast forward several years, how do you just kind of see the whole debate on the warehouse versus Lake shaping out kind of over the medium to kind of longer term?

Hi, Derek, we love that question because our technology set is going to enable us to deploy the best enterprise data warehouse the best Lake and the best Lakehouse solution for our customers. So we see that as a convergence over time. So super exciting to see that manifested in the marketplace. We're also really interested in seeing how open table format is going to continue to enable that. So I think it's an awesome time in the marketplace. And as we look out in the future, I think a lot of convergence between those deployment options. So Matt, thank you. Thanks very much for the question.

Sure. And then, maybe Claire for you. On the call, you addressed this, but maybe just a little bit more color on kind of the impact of upfront recurring revenue on your revenue outlook targets 2023.

Yes, absolutely. So in the quarter, from a year-over-year standpoint, it was flat with last year with a net negative of $11 million. And that is actually, if you think about where we were quarter-over-quarter, that's an $8 million incremental net negative quarter-over-quarter. So you can see that kind of in our growth rate and the impact as you look at it quarter-over-quarter. As we think about Q4 and the rest of the year, I'm expecting it still to be a net negative impact in Q format, but slightly less than what we saw. Slightly less than the $11 million in Q3, which would mean that the full year is still positive but a lower positive than we saw in fiscal 2022.

The next question is from the line of Derrick Wood with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Maybe, Steve, just it would be helpful to get an update on your newer partner efforts, how those are tracking, where you see kind of new channels developing through over the next 12 to 18 months, whether it's SIs or hyperscalers or anything to call out?

Yes. Thanks, Derrick. I think I'm really happy with how our partner ecosystem is continuing to develop. I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we saw a great growth in that partner ecosystem, both from a consulting and SI partner, but also from an ISV perspective, but also regional partners are starting to come into play as well. And then it's great that our strategic partnerships with the likes of Dell are starting to drive business for us as well. The new logo business has been driven from an on-prem perspective that enables us to offer a true hybrid cloud capability. We had lots of partners join us at our marketing possible events during Q3, some great attendance and great interest in terms of the solutions that are being deployed on top of the Teradata system. All of those partners are clearly interested in utilizing that wealth of data, which is in the Teradata ecosystem to fuel all of these new analytics use cases and AI use cases as we move forward. So I think we're very, very happy with that and how the partner ecosystem continues to evolve.

Great. And either for Steve or Claire. Just was hoping to touch on the kind of performance by geo, as I know there's different dynamics with cloud and on-prem and migration shifting, but America is up 11%, EMEA, up 3%, APAC down 8%. How would you just kind of characterize the puts and takes across the major geos this quarter?

Yes. So I'll start, and then I'll let Steve comment if you have anything to add at the end. So to your point, we saw in constant currency and had strong growth in the Americas of 11% in the quarter. EMEA is also doing well. We're seeing good traction in EMEA both especially in the cloud area. And we saw 3% growth in constant currency in the quarter. APJ did decline. As we've mentioned before, we have been winding down our operations in China. And so actually, all of that negative growth impact is being driven by China. If you look at it without China, they were actually flat in constant currency in the quarter. So we're seeing a little bit less traction from a cloud stand place in some Asian countries, but areas like Australia and some of those countries are also doing particularly well. So we are very pleased with the mix that we've got across all of the 3 regions. However, we are seeing an APJ impact from China in the quarter and in fiscal 2023. It's not material for a total company. It just shows up when we look at the APJ results. So Steve, if you just want to add anything else in terms of overall regional trends?

Yes. I think good consistent execution across all of the geographies and across all industries. Just adding on to that point from a China perspective, we've taken all of the actions there. It's tighter than all of our guidance. So we've taken those difficult decisions and enables us to focus on those strategic cloud-based revenue streams in those markets as we move forward. We've got a great leadership team in place from an international perspective, and we're seeing really good execution across both the Americas and international from an execution perspective.

The next question is from the line of Tyler Radke with Citi. Your line is now open.

So Claire or Steve, just starting off on the ARR performance in the quarter. I guess the sequential growth of $1 million quarter-over-quarter, how much was incremental currency headwind to the reported number relative to your last guidance? And then secondly, it did look like a pretty steep decline in maintenance and software upgrade rights as well as subscription did tick down. So is it fair to say that the bulk of the cloud sequential growth came from migrations from those ARR basis? Thanks.

Yes, Tyler, thanks very much for your question. So to your point, from a quarter-over-quarter standpoint, we did actually see a $13 million negative impact from currencies. So to your point, it looks like we only grew total ARR by $1, but that was actually $14 million in terms of constant currency. And some of that headwind, because ARR is down from a currency standpoint at the end of the quarter, kind of the ending rate. We did see a sequential impact on currency. And that's what we're seeing as we go into Q4. as well. We're actually pleased with the mix, as Steve mentioned earlier, with the mix between migrations and expansions. It was in line with what we expected. In the quarter, to your point, we are seeing software upgrade rates and maintenance decline, but that's in line with what we're expecting. And we see a lot of that being either conversions to subscription or conversion straight into the cloud. So we didn't get any surprises in Q3, and we're happy with how it looks to Q4, but we are seeing those currency headwinds at the end of Q3 and moving into Q4 from an ARR standpoint.

Okay. Super clear. And it sounds like you're expressing a lot of confidence in 2025 targets, which is great to see. I guess just how should we think about kind of the linearity or the path to 2025 from 2023, should it kind of follow a straight-line path in terms of cloud growth and free cash flow or anything to call out just in terms of incremental on 2024 versus 2025.

So yes, Tyler, we do have good confidence in the goals that we previously laid out for 2025 and we're not in a position to give guidance for 2024 at this point. But by definition, we will see growth as we go from '23 to '24 to '25. So yes, we can model in growth naturally in 2024, but we're not giving guidance at this point and I'll come back to you next quarter with obviously, all of the details on that. But I think I'd just reiterate by saying good confidence in the goals that we set for 2025.

Thank you for your question. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Steve McMillan for his final remarks.

Thank you. And thanks, everyone, for joining us today. We are really pleased with our ongoing momentum and our cloud growth. We remain committed to our strategy and are confident in driving that differentiated value for our customers and a return to our shareholders. We look forward to speaking again after Q4 and hope you all have a great year-end. Thank you very much.

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines.