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Teradata Corporation (TDC)

Q1 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, May 6, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is [Annie] and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Teradata's First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I would like to hand the conference over to your host today, Christopher Lee, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Christopher Lee

Analyst

Good afternoon, and welcome to Teradata's 2021 first quarter earnings call. Steve McMillan, Teradata's President and Chief Executive Officer, will lead our call today; followed by Mark Culhane, Teradata's Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss our financial results. Our discussion today includes forecasts and other information that are considered forward-looking statements. While these statements reflect our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risk factors are described in today's earnings release and in our SEC filings including our most recent 10-K and in the Form 10-Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2021 that is expected to be filed with the SEC tomorrow. These forward-looking statements are made as of today and we undertake no duty or obligation to update our forward-looking statements. On today's call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures, which exclude such items as stock-based compensation expense and other special items described in our earnings release. We will also discuss other non-GAAP items such as free cash flow and constant currency revenue comparisons. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures is included in our earnings release, which is accessible on the Investor Relations page of our website at investor.teradata.com. A replay of this conference call will be available later today on our website. And now, I will turn the call over to Steve.

Steve McMillan

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Teradata is off to a very good start in fiscal 2021. We had solid growth in revenue and free cash flow and we exceeded our quarterly outlook on public cloud ARR growth, and both GAAP and non-GAAP EPS. You all saw that we issued a release on April 21, pre-announcing our first quarter 2021 results as our quarterly EPS performance was higher than the guidance issued during our fourth quarter 2020 earnings call. We saw significantly higher EPS resulting from strong performance in revenue and gross margin, as well as continued solid expense discipline. With our customer base among the world's largest enterprises, and with large transactions, we can have non-linear quarters, which is why we encourage you to focus on a full-year outward and results rather than quarterly. During his remarks, Mark will explain in more detail. Now, on to the quarter. Teradata grew in all three geographic regions. Growth was driven by large cloud and subscription deals from customers making meaningful commitments to Teradata, adding to or expanding the workloads on Vantage. We also executed higher margin [consulting project data] and a small fast-growing contribution from new customers and partners. Our focus on profitable growth is as strong as ever, and we generated more profit dollars both year-over-year and sequentially. We are resolute and dedicated to keep that momentum going and are building upon our solid fundamentals to energize growth. In Q1, we continue to advance our cloud transformation, tightening the aperture on the strategy, and growing close momentum with customers, prospects, and partners by reinforcing our cultural ethos of inclusion and accountability. We confirmed our market strength and differentiation for Teradata Vantage, our connected multi-cloud data platform for enterprise analytics. Teradata holds a significant position in a large,…

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Thank you, Steve and good afternoon, everyone. Before I discuss our Q1 operating results, I want to indicate that unless stated otherwise, my comments today reflect Teradata’s results on a non-GAAP basis, which excludes items such as stock-based compensation expense, and other special items identified in our earnings release. Additional commentary on key metrics and segment trends can be found in the earnings discussion document on our Investor Relations webpage at investor.teradata.com. I also want to remind everyone of the financial reporting change that we made for 2021 and announced on our prior earnings call since it appears that some street models use numbers not reflective of the reporting change. To reiterate, beginning in fiscal 2021, we reclassified managed services related ARR and revenue from recurring revenue and into non-recurring consulting revenue. And we reclassified third-party software related ARR and revenue out of recurring revenue and into non-recurring perpetual revenue. Accordingly, the year-over-year comparisons that I will cite in my comments are based on the reclassified amounts for the first quarter of 2020. And the full-year 2021 outlook that I provided on our prior earnings call is based on a comparison to the reclassified amounts for the full-year 2020. For more information and those reclassified numbers, please refer to our earnings discussion document for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 on our Investor Relations page at investor.teradata.com. Let's move on to the results for the quarter. We are off to a very solid start to the fiscal year as Teradata exceeded the quarterly outlook we provided for public cloud ARR, as well as GAAP EPS and non-GAAP EPS. The company exceeded the outlook we provided due to solid execution by our go to market team, strong product market fit for our customers, our team's continued focus on profitable growth, and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Katy Huberty from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Katy Huberty

Analyst

Yes, thank you. Good afternoon. Mark, can you talk about whether there is a pipeline of additional deals that would cause you to recognize revenue on an annual versus a quarterly basis? Like what happened in the March quarter, and if so, if there's any in the pipeline, what are you assuming in terms of conversion of those in your guidance?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yeah, great. Thanks, Katy. Right now we see a few deals like this in Q2. We don't have line – I don't have line of sight in the pipeline as to what deals in Q3 or Q4 could go that way. And we'll have to wait to see what happens in Q2, but I do expect we'll see a bit of it, given we're seeing strong interest from our existing customers wanting to operate Vantage on premises as well as in the cloud. So, I'm expecting some impact in Q2, but nothing in my guidance is reflected in Q3 or Q4 at this stage.

Katy Huberty

Analyst

Okay. And so that, in your guidance, you assume that some of those converts and you get an annual revenue recognition. And then can you just provide a little bit more detail because I'm not as familiar with the accounting treatment of what is the element or characteristic of these deals that are causing you to recognize the revenue annually instead of quarterly? And can you just talk about whether in the past, you know, there were deals like this, that were, you know, that were recognized differently or what has changed?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

So, under revenue recognition rules, there are a variety of factors that can result in other than ratable recognition [correlate right]? Whether it goes to in the on prem world, what is the right to use the software? What is the committed amount of consumption that's involved with that? Is there hardware involved? Because hardware can fall outside of the software revenue recognition, they go under a standard called 842. So, for us, it was certainly on premise software elements that drove some of this annual recognition, not all software components, but a certain portion of components because of somewhat of the interaction of what are they going to use on prem versus what do they want to use in the cloud? And how does that impact what's committed to be used and so forth. And so depending on how those nuances play out, you certainly can get revenue recognized on something other than ratable. And that's how a couple of these – few of these deals, particularly these two big renewals came down. So that's what drove it. Given we're focused on, you know, we were talking to all of our existing customers, because given our strength and our cloud cohort, and momentum we see there it behooves us to get our customers to the cloud as quickly as possible, but we know they're going to want to operate both Vantage on prem, as well as in the cloud. And just depending on how that plays out, you know, I said, on our Q4 call could drive some revenue recognition things, and obviously, we experienced a few of those in Q1.

Katy Huberty

Analyst

And is this the first time that you've had revenue recognition of deals like this?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yes. We rarely had anything other than ratable in the past. Other than perpetual, but these has nothing to do with perpetual.

Katy Huberty

Analyst

Right. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Wamsi Mohan - Bank of America. Your line is open.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Hi, yes, thank you. I have one for Mark, and then one for Steve. Mark, I got all the adjustments that you spoke about. So, even if we take out the $0.16, because of the timing of the transactions, you're roughly at $1 in earnings on the first half, but if I look historically, second half versus first half, even taking into account some of the headwinds that you mentioned from share count and taxes, seems like the second half is much more sub seasonal than what you have done historically. So, any color you could share, is this EPS also reflective of revenues or is there something else that I'm missing in that bridge? And then I have a follow up with Steve?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yeah, so no, Wamsi you’re right. So, right now, given the annual recognition that flowed into Q1 and out of the remaining quarters, I mean, not across Q1 to Q4. So, you know, revenue is not happening on these deals in Q2, Q3, and Q4. You know, I don't have line of sight today in the pipeline as to what deals might go a certain direction that could drive revenue higher in those quarters to make up for the revenue that isn't going to naturally be recognized in Q3, and Q4, because it was recognized in Q1. And we may see a bit more, as I mentioned, on to answer Katy's question in Q2, which right now, I'm not modeling in impacts of additional things that could happen in Q3, and Q4. So, it's a conservative estimate on Q3, and Q4 in terms of revenue, and obviously, the EPS impact that I suspect, depending on how the rest of the year plays out, we could see those coming up. I'm not trying to model that in at this stage because I just don't have the visibility.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Okay, all right thanks, Mark. And then Steve, your 18 million in incremental sequential public cloud ARR, you're guiding roughly in the same range out of top that you would have been able to drive a little bit of acceleration now that you have, you know, a little bit more resources dedicated to this. Maybe can you share some thoughts around, you know, what you're seeing in the pipeline? I also heard you mentioned, new logos may be starting to show up in the pipeline when those can start to create new incremental tailwind? Thank you.

Steve McMillan

Analyst

Yeah. Hey, Wamsi, how are you doing? We are really confident in the annual guidance that we've issued o fat least 100% growth year-over-year. We've got real confidence in that because we're seeing our customer existing customers demand for Teradata in the cloud and having interoperability between the environments. And the new used cases that we're seeing, I mentioned some of them in the prepared remarks in terms of IoT data, data this and [indiscernible] on some of the public cloud environments, really opening up new ways to use Teradata Vantage, as well as really thinking about Vantage as a platform. It's [extensible]. So, we're really confident in the capabilities that Vantage is providing. We are conservative in our guidance, based on the timing of our deals. We're working with our customers in terms of what their approach strategies are, and how they want to use Teradata and the cloud, but still got a really strong on prem business. The, cloud business that we're working with our customers on is, is extending the capabilities and modernizing their data architectures and creating a complete data fabric, and a multi-cloud environment. So, conservative for our annual guidance, but we're solid on 100% year-on-year growth.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. Your next question comes to the line of Tyler Radke from Citi. Your line is open.

Tyler Radke

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon, guys. My question for, I think, Mark, you know, just looking at Q1 ARR that was flat sequentially on a constant currency basis, I think that's comparable to what you did in Q1 last year, obviously, last year was a challenging year with COVID, but, you know, felt like you saw, kind of much stronger than normal activity in Q1. I mean, Steve referenced several customers moving to the cloud, it sounded like a lot of a lot of good momentum. So, I guess just curious, given all that momentum, and the strength that you did see in cloud ARR, sequentially, like what kind of drove just the sequentially flat ARR performance? Was it kind of mix shift away from hardware, just kind of customers, you know, procuring a software only product, just help me understand maybe why that didn't grow sequentially? And was kind of in-line with last year on a quarter where you seemingly saw a lot more activity.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yeah, thanks Tyler. If you look back even in my tenure, we've had it be flat to slightly down in Q1 beyond not just 2021, but years prior, as well. Clearly, a big headwind from a sequential was FX, so that was a huge impact this quarter. So that was part of it. Second is just Q1 tends to be the lowest bookings quarter and Q4’s the largest and so it's kind of a seasonal thing. That's why we've always said, we do large transactions that can fall at, sort of any time and I tend to look at what's going on an annual basis, not a quarterly basis, you know, whether it's not what we wanted, or it was way over and said, well, we got to really balance it across the full-year. So, we're excited about what we're seeing in the cloud, clearly, we have good cloud momentum. We're excited about the interest we're seeing and the change in perception we're starting to feel in the marketplace, as customers are – and our prospects are clearly taking a different view of us. That gives us a lot of confidence and why we reiterated our full-year of ARR growth. So, I don't think there's a thing, you know, other than FX in Q1, that was really the big driver of the flat, you know, the constant currency, you know, flat on a constant currency basis.

Tyler Radke

Analyst

Great, and a follow-up for Steve. Maybe we could talk about your win rates and just overall positioning in the cloud, it seemed like you rattled off a lot of wins, and some of them for snowflake, but how do you feel like win rates are trending? And then, you know, were there any deals that that maybe you hadn't forecasted or thought you had lost that perhaps came your way at the end? Thanks.

Steve McMillan

Analyst

Tyler, we're seeing really great interest. You know, in the examples I gave, we had [winds] and retail entertainment, health care, distribution, manufacturing. So, we're, we're really happy with how we are taking our message to our customers. The other thing that's working well as our consumption based pricing models, are generating some real interest in our customers. They see the benefit of having a blended pricing model. And as we are really improving the perception of Vantage as a service in the cloud. And the fact that Teradata and the cloud can give a highly performance offering and be a really easy and low risk way to migrate from on prem into the cloud that has given us a real competitive advantage that, you know, is causing our customers to think about using Teradata in the cloud and having that multi-cloud capability and a data fabric that spans across both on prem and into these public cloud environments.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. We have our next question from the line of [Matt Hedberg]. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, this is an [Anushta from Matt Hedberg’s] team. Can you hear me all right?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. Could you talk about what you're seeing specifically, as it relates to the COVID impacted industries? Now that vaccines are inside? I see that consulting was better than expected this quarter. Would you say it was partly a function of the reopening and recovery in these industries?

Steve McMillan

Analyst

Yeah, I'll take that question. Yeah, I think like most technology companies, we're seeing an uptick in the digital transformation programs and projects that organizations are executing. You heard in my prepared remarks that we are seeing projects with some of the airline companies coming back online both in terms of, you know them wanting to improve their operational effectiveness and efficiency, making sure that they are using the right technologies to enable their future transformations. So, we're very excited about that. The retail environment, we believe is starting to pick up and we're seeing some of the retailers really invest. And then we're also seeing some of the organizations or packaged delivery organizations that benefited from COVID carrying on with a really strong [investment staple], that when I mentioned in the European Theater on Google Cloud, that was to really help bolster their digital transformation and move to the cloud. So, it's an exciting time. It’s going to be a really great year, we think.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Derrick Wood from Cowen. Your line is open.

Derrick Wood

Analyst

Great, thanks for taking my questions. First one, Steve, you named a number of customers migrating from on prem to cloud, is there, you know, what's most common moving a small portion of workloads or a big portion or, you know, all the workloads to the cloud, and then the customer starts a cloud migration? How long does it typically pick? And how do you, kind of help your customer migrate without having to double pay?

Steve McMillan

Analyst

Yeah, so, we are seeing a mix Derrick in terms of customers that are moving their – they want to move their whole system on to the cloud, and customers that are moving certain workloads, you know, we continue to invest in on prem capabilities as well. So one of the things I talked about was having access to native object stores on prem. And as we look at Teradata as a platform, you know you've got a number of ways to actually deploy that. You know, if you can keep data in north on prem, and then Teradata systems anywhere can access that. And then another used case is having AWS, Teradata instance that can use [indiscernible] to connect back to on prem Teradata that’s gotten also on prem. And so, if you think about building that fabric, it gives your customers an immense choice in terms of how they migrate workloads to the cloud. And obviously, if we are providing that software capability, both on prem and in the cloud, we have a real competitive advantage to help the customer with that, you know, double bubble costs of that migration. So, we think that's a super competitive advantage for Teradata.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Steve McMillan, for his final remarks.

Steve McMillan

Analyst

Thank you. And thank you, everyone for joining us today. We're off to a really great start to 2021, and we're remaining absolutely focused on profitable growth. We're dedicated to delivering that value to all of our stakeholders, especially our customers, shareholders, and employees. We’re looking forward to a great 2021. Thank you all.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.