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Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Sheryl, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Teradata Q4 2018 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Mr. Gregg Swearingen, VP of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Gregg Swearingen

Analyst

Good afternoon. And welcome to Teradata’s 2018 fourth quarter and yearend earnings call. Vic Lund, Teradata's new Chairman will begin our call today, followed by Oliver Ratzesberger, our new President and Chief Executive Officer. Then Mark Culhane, CFO will discuss our financial results and provide our guidance for 2019. Our discussion today includes forecasts and other information that are considered forward-looking statements. While these statements reflect our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risk factors are described in Teradata's 10-K, 10-Q and other filings with the SEC. On today's call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial information, which excludes such items as stock-based compensation expense and other special items described in our earnings release, including acquisition, reorganization, transformation-related costs, asset impairments, and capitalized software development costs. We will also discuss other non-GAAP items such as free cash flow and constant currency revenue comparisons. A reconciliation of our GAAP results to our non-GAAP results and other information concerning these measures is included in our earnings release and on the Investor page of teradata.com. A replay of this conference call will be available later today on our website. Teradata assumes no obligation to update or revise the information provided during this conference call, whether as a result of new information or future results. And now, I will turn the call over to Vic.

Victor Lund

Analyst

Thank you, Gregg. I would like to my welcome. Almost three years ago, I was given the honor of becoming President and CEO of Teradata. In my initial calls, I laid out my goals. First, in conjunction with the Teradata team to develop a customer-centric strategy that would drive our profitable growth into the future. Second, develop a team capable of driving that strategy, which would include the next CEO of Teradata. The announcement of Oliver as CEO and our strong fourth quarter results are an endorsement that these objectives have been met. It is now time for a new leader to drive our ongoing success. Oliver is the right person at the right time. He has an understanding of what makes us special, a seasoned view of our customers’ needs. The confidence of our Board and our team and the pragmatic intelligence, seasoned by experience to continue to drive our business forward. While there is still much to be accomplished, my confidence in our strategy and our team has never been stronger. Oliver?

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. I would like to start by thinking Vic as he transitions to his new role as Executive Chairman of our Board. His leadership and guidance have been invaluable, not only to the company, but for me personally, as well. I am extremely proud of what Vic and I have accomplished together including the winning strategy that defines the Teradata of today. This is an exciting time in our history. The world of data analytics has never been a strategic important and Teradata is uniquely positioned to deliver value to the world’s leading companies. I am pleased to share that our strategy, our execution into our relentless dedication to customer success has resulted once again in excellent performance in Q4 and 2018 overall. We exceeded guidance on all important measures, ARR growth, recurring revenue growth, total revenue, EPS, and free cash flow. We have seen accelerating growth rates across all these measures as this is visible in our financial results. Our customers continue to transition to subscription faster than we had anticipated. In fact, 79% of our bookings in 2018 were subscription-based peaking at 87% for Q4. These results are evidence of our solid foundation of future recurring revenues. Mark will cover these financials in more detail. Now, I would like to highlight some of our 2018 achievements. We refined our strategy, shifted to a subscription-based model and significantly enhanced our offerings. We introduced our game-changing analytics platform, Teradata Vantage to broad acclaim and record adoption. We optimized and aligned our go-to-market approach around our targeted customer sets. Having the entire organization tightly aligned to our strategy, it’s helping us to be more effective with our largest analytic opportunities and it’s helping us gain efficiencies that will drive greater profitability. We repositioned and revitalized our brands to better…

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Thanks, Oliver and good afternoon everyone. We delivered a strong quarter in Q4 and close to our year, which sets us up well for good momentum as we enter 2019. Our fourth quarter performance was highlighted not only by our better than expected total revenue and EPS, but even more importantly, by our strong ARR and recurring revenue growth, as well as better than expected free cash flow generation. Our strategy is clearly working and it’s now being reflected in our financial results. In Q4, 87% of our bookings were subscription-based which resulted in 79% for the full year. This exceeded our most recent guidance range of 55% to 70% and significantly beat our original guidance of 40% to 50% when we began 2018. Even with more transactions shifting to subscription than expected, which is good for the future of Teradata but reduces the amount of revenue recognized in the current period. Total revenue in Q4 was $588 million, meaningfully above our guidance range of $555 million to $575 million. This was driven by recurring revenue growth ahead of our expectations from strong customer subscription demand for Teradata’s software. Full year total revenue was $2.164 billion, higher than our $2.13 billion to $2.15 billion guidance range as well as higher than 2017 full year revenue of $2.156 billion. Recurring revenue, which includes revenue from subscription-based transactions, as well as maintenance and software upgrade rates relating to perpetual license was $328 million in Q4, a year-over-year increase of 10%, 13% increase in constant currency and well ahead of our expectations for the quarter because of better than expected bookings linearity, contributing to recurring revenue recognition within the quarter. Full year recurring revenue was $1.254 billion, a 10% increase from 2017 on both a reported and constant currency basis, both of which…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Brad Reback from Stifel. Your line is open.

Brad Reback

Analyst

Thank you very much. Mark, real quick on the guidance for subscriptions being at about 70% for 2019, obviously is it something well north of that in 2018 and you are guiding perpetual down meaningfully. Can you give us some of the puts and takes going into the guide? Thanks.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yes, so, are you talking about bookings mix or margin?

Brad Reback

Analyst

Bookings mix.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yes, bookings maybe 70% or higher.

Brad Reback

Analyst

Right.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

So, we can certainly see it higher. But right now, we are looking at that 70% plus range. So the puts and takes there are, we clearly see perpetual revenue continuing to decline in the magnitude of which could be the $150 million to $200 million and then obviously, depending on where that falls, impacts where the bookings mix ultimately be and it can move it as we saw across 2018 on different quarters, et cetera. So, but, we are extremely pleased with what we are seeing in the transformation to move to the subscription model and obviously it’s a different set of our existing customers that we are focused on this year that are coming back to acquire more stuff from us that more part of the 2018 cohort, if you will.

Brad Reback

Analyst

Got it. And then, Oliver, maybe a quick follow-up. I believe at the beginning of this calendar year, you changed the sales force comp plan, maybe some high-level highlights on how that’s been received? Thanks.

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Yes, Brad. Thanks for the question. Indeed, and I think we said it at the Analyst Day already. We changed this year to focus within our company, not just go-to-market to ARR is the primary metric. And we did the same with go-to-market realignment that we drove, specifically focused to ARR. The reception in the field and with our go-to-market orientation has actually been very positive. And we believe that that increased focus on ARR will drive increased consumption, increased ARR results for 2019.

Brad Reback

Analyst

Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Katy Huberty from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is opened.

Katy Huberty

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon. Obviously, a strong end to the year and the feedback in the market is that there is quite a healthy budget flush in the fourth quarter, but there is obviously questions around how 2019 is starting as it relates to the pipeline building and what maybe a slower growth here. So just curious any high-level comments as it relates to what your – I think you mentioned backlog, but what your deal pipeline looks like for this year and if there has been any change in the rate of the business as you move into January and early February? Then I have a follow-up.

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Katy, this is Oliver. No change in the business. If anything - we are seeing a very good and healthy funnel. We are seeing that the business - the adoption of Vantage is driving actually increased activity in our customer base and for 2019, that makes us very positive for continuous execution on the strategy especially with the help of Vantage being the enterprise platform.

Katy Huberty

Analyst

Okay. That’s great to hear. Maybe question for Mark. The first quarter EPS is a little bit lower than we were expecting even though the recurring revenue is in line. Just, is there anything as it relates to mix of hardware or cost that flow through in the first quarter that we should be thinking about?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Hi, Katy. Thanks. No, I mean, it’s always traditionally been our lowest quarter from an EPS perspective of the four at the high end of the range, we’d be over last year. We are going through some of our go-to-market realignments that we have executed on and rolled out in the month of January. So that has somewhat an impact. But we feel – on a full year basis, we feel really good about where we are headed from an EPS perspective. So I don’t think there is a specific callout to where Q1 is.

Katy Huberty

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Derrick Wood from Cowen and Company. Your line is open.

Derrick Wood

Analyst

Great. Thanks. So I guess the first question for Oliver. Clearly, you are acting more aggressively on the – getting out to the consulting area. Based on your guidance, could you give us a sense as to how much is actually in non-strategic areas? And how much is an effort to push Teradata-related engagements to SI Partners and maybe putting the latter given some color as to what kind of new engagements are you getting from SI?

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

So, Derrick, we don’t break out the professional division business in terms of what parts we do for what type. In general, what you see us do is, really focusing and aligning not just go-to-market but consulting directly to the strategy that we laid out at the Analyst Day and yes, the focus is on Teradata Vantage. And we have more focus Teradata Vantage than ever before and that is what’s driving the adoption. This is what our megadata customers are asking for in what is helping us to be successful in that line of business. At this point of time, we are not ready to talk about SI Partners or what we are doing with them. But overall, this is a direct alignment of the consulting business to the strategy and it’s what we believe will drive the most adoption of Vantage and increase in ARR for 2019.

Derrick Wood

Analyst

Okay. And then, Mark, I am impressed by the strength in short-term deferred revenue this quarter with the acceleration. Could you help us bridge the 18% growth in short-term deferred revenue and the 10% growth in recurring revenue? I mean, should we expect deferred rev’s growth to come down as more to recurring or why would that be growing faster?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Hey, Derrick, this is Mark. So, obviously, we have very robust Q4 ARR growth quarter. That’s obviously showing up in short-term deferred revenue. That’s we guided from a recurring revenue growth perspective in – for 2019 of 11%. So, part of it is, the seasonality here, you will see deferred revenue typically peaks at the end of March, at the end of Q1. And then, due to all of the historical perpetual license maintenance and upgrade rate renewals which are Q4 related but it get build in January and go on to the deferred revenue balance and work off as revenue gets recognized which is why you see across the year deferred revenue potentially declining across the balance of the year and then you tend to see it pop back up in Q4 again candidly, that’s our biggest bookings quarter of the four during the year and that’s been the phenomenon for this business for a long time. So, that’s really what’s happening there on that front.

Derrick Wood

Analyst

Okay. That makes sense. Well done. Thanks.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Wamsi Mohan from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Hi, yes, thank you. I was wondering if you can talk a little bit about the trends, U.S. versus international in your segment reporting it looks like you saw the opposite of what most of the others saw with Americas, sort of weaker and international stronger is not just an acceleration towards subscription that happen more in the Americas or any other color you can share there would be helpful and I have a follow-up.

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Yes, this is exactly is, the acceleration into subscription bookings in Americas has been leading all year long and has peaked approximately 7% in Q4 for the U.S. International has been a little bit trailing behind in terms of subscription bookings mix, but it’s catching up. And that bookings mix is what is driving the Q4 results here. So, Americas actually had a very, very strong quarter, because of that extremely high bookings mix that makes the in quarter revenues look smaller than what they actually are based on the subscription business.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Okay, thanks, Oliver. And Mark, on the free cash flow guide of $200 million to $250 million, you mentioned that you got the sort of net of some of the headwinds you are baking in for the reorg and realignment cost that you noted. Can you give us some sense of the magnitude of those costs? So we can sort of get a more understanding of the strength of the free cash flow trajectory here? Thank you.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yes. So, thanks, Wamsi. WE have and we are still working through what that is between sort of natural attrition and other actions. So, that’s why we are we’ve sort of called that out. But even though on an apples-to-apples basis, we think it’s grow over the prior year from where we were on the 204 even if I tend to do potentially include some of that depending on where that lands. And so, we will have more of a sense of that as it gets rolled out here across Q1. But it’s – it could be a meaningful number in what’s obviously then a $100 million, but it’s more than 10.

Wamsi Mohan

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for the color Mark.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Zane Chrane from Bernstein Research. Your line is open.

Zane Chrane

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could give us a sense for what we should expect for 2019 in terms of the assets acquired by capital leads, I believe $52 million in 2018. Just wondering what your expectations are for 2019 for that type of asset acquisition?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Sure. So, I think, we expect it to be definitely higher. The magnitudes really are to quantify how much the customer want to continue to buy and own the hardware upfront versus subscribe to the entire solution. But we clearly expect it to be above the $52 million-ish that we have on the balance sheet today.

Zane Chrane

Analyst

Okay. Should we think of that like a 2x increase? 20%, any ballpark range?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

If I had to guess, it’s $75 million, $75 million, $100 million potentially.

Zane Chrane

Analyst

Gotcha. That’s very helpful. Just quick follow-up. You guys talked a lot at your Analyst Day about the strength of your renewals and how that does not seem to present a material risk to the business. Is there something – could you guys maybe give us quarterly renewal rates or just kind of make that a standard KPI, so we can see what the renewal rate on contracts each quarter is? Or maybe give us an update on what it was for Q4?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yes, we haven’t done – we haven’t looked at it that way. That’s something that we will take under consideration moving forward. But that’s not a metric that we’ve talked about. We don’t have customer loss and so, given our focus on existing customers then it becomes a question of – they grew ARR. So that we count that as, they were doing at a 100% or do we say, hey everything else they are doing with this to expand their workloads et cetera do I bake that in and call that really as part of the renewal or not, particularly when they convert all their historical licenses to subscription. And that’s why we haven’t really done that, because it’s not a true subscription renewal where they don’t own the underlying asset like you see when you are a 100% subscription business. And so that’s – but that’s something we are contemplating looking at across the year.

Zane Chrane

Analyst

Okay. That will be great. Well, thanks very much and congrats.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Karl Keirstead from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Karl Keirstead

Analyst

Well, thanks. I’ve got two both for Mark. Mark on Q1 2019, you obviously didn’t give us total revenue guide. You only gave us recurring revs. Would you expect for the perpetual and consulting revenue streams that the pace of decline in Q1 might be somewhat comparable to what you guided to for the full year or above or below?

Mark Culhane

Analyst

I expect it to be down year-over-year. The magnitude of which is very difficult to predict, because these transactions are very fluid and go right up to the end of the line as to whether goes perpetual or goes subscription which we saw across a few quarters here in 2018, but I would expect on an absolute dollar basis, perpetual to be down year-over-year.

Karl Keirstead

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for that. And then, maybe a second follow-up. Mark, you mentioned that there was better than expected linearity in 4Q. I am just wondering if you could elaborate why was that and in terms of the P&L impact I presume that that helps you on the revenue line. It probably helped you a little bit on the cash flow side and does that create any headwinds that we should keep in mind for Q1? Thank you.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

So, yes. Earlier bookings linearity drove the sequential growth in recurring revenue Q4 over Q3 were up $16 million ahead of our expectations from where we landed in Q3. It did not impact cash flows at all, because most of those deals, the cash flow get collected in Q1 and versus in Q4. So, it did not helped cash flow generation in Q4. But we got meaningful contribution into recurring revenue recognition inside Q4 given the timing of those deals. And the sales force started to realize that comp plans were going to be shifting in 2019 towards ARR growth, term start dates are important and so forth and I think we discussed phenomenal follow-through by our sales teams in Q4 on that front which drove the upside in recurring revenue higher than we expected. In addition, as you may recall, our Q3 call, we had a very significant transaction we thought was going perpetual that ultimately ended up going subscription and closed in early Q4 that helped also drive that. I mean, we anticipated that, but we’ve got a lot more of the subscription deals done in Q4 because we’ve put up $68 million of net currency impacts and ARR growth in Q4 with a lot of that growth contributing to the recurring revenue in Q1.

Karl Keirstead

Analyst

That’s very helpful. Thanks a lot, Mark.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Phil Winslow, Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Philip Winslow

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just I had – just want some color on sort of the deployment options, but the customers are taking. I wanted to get a sense of the subscription business sort of which versions are you kind of go into cloud or maybe – if you are thinking about the appliance model versus also maybe just the just going subscription for the software. Just maybe sort of a sense of sort of what you saw this last year maybe kind of compare that and how you kind of think about how that mix trends?

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Yes, Phil, this is Oliver. A great question. This goes straight back towards our strategy into the megadata customers as we focus on. We see a very strong demand for hybrid deployments from our megadata customer base. They are asking for the ability to deploy across a variety of options. They heavily are still invested in on-premises deployments, whether that is on optimized hardware, whether that is on commodity hardware. And a majority of our subscription bookings that you see are on-premises. May of them are linked to cloud and hybrid deployments as I gave examples even in my remarks earlier where companies run their large production incentives on, on-premises, but expand with virtual labs and experimentation into the various cloud options that we offer.

Philip Winslow

Analyst

Got it. And then, also just a technology and competitive question here, as well. I mean, one of the things you talked about at the Analyst Day, is support for languages integration with the SQL or Python, et cetera, sort of call it data store, precision storage and then, in sort of your engines on how do that support for multiple languages. Would you think about some of the single-point product competitors we are seeing some of them likes their flake in data breaks partner up obviously more of Spark, Python guy, the other one more SQL-oriented. How do you think about sort of your positioning with Vantage, your language or new SQL et cetera. There is different engines versus – at the point competitors that are mostly cloud, but are partnering to kind of trying to get there.

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Yes, so, this – I think goes back to one of the most differentiating characteristics of Vantage for megadata companies. There is a lot of point solutions. In fact, we have a lot of megadata companies that have – that tell us they have hundreds, if not thousands of point solutions deployed with different languages with different versions of languages, different dialects, it’s making it very, very difficult for these companies to maintain a grow and optimize this environment. With Vantage, we give these companies the option to integrate the various different engines and you mentioned Spark and you mentioned languages like Python, and others integrate that into a single instance that mega data companies can scale around and virtualized their workloads within that choice of deployment. Therefore providing a single user experience for their applications and for their thousands of users which in turn lets them simplify their ecosystem, simplify and reduce their cost structure, that ultimately they have inherited over the last decade or so from literally thousands of point solution deployments that they have. And so, Vantage is really finding a lot of positive momentum with our megadata customer base for that reason. That integration, that simplification one advanced SQL dialect, one dialect of Python, one dialect of our engines directly integrated on top of storage options like you mentioned at three and others, it’s really what’s driving the interest in our customer base.

Philip Winslow

Analyst

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Raimo Lenschow from Barclays. Your line is open.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst

Hey, thanks for taking my question. Oliver, good luck in the new quest as the CEO. The question I had on if you think about the Teradata Vantage now, you talked about the very large customers, how do we have to think about the old 2000 series guide, especially in Europe, you were kind of expanding more that way. What’s your feedback from – what’s the feedback from those guys about Teradata’s entire new direction? Thank you.

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

So, Vantage – so we have multiple deployment choices, obviously, for Vantage. Vantage finds very good reception from the internal customer base. Clearly, as we said, our focus is on megadata companies and yes, we have 2000 series appliance years ago deployed across a variety of customer bases and what we have done in our platform. And you probably remember, at the beginning of the Teradata strategy, I pointed out that we have something like 12 different hardware platforms. We are down to basically one hardware platform when we meet on-premises which is a software-defined IntelliCloud platform. This is where we made the shift from separating compute and storage and that has allowed us in a software-defined environment to configure the platforms through software to the various used cases that needs thereby eliminating the various different hardware platforms that we’ve build and used prior to that because, remember, these were hard wired platforms. You will pick a 2000 it was forever a 2000 with IntelliFlex with it’s software-defined nature, we can dial up compute, we can dial up storage. And now with Vantage, we're expanding the use into other storage formats like S3 optic stores that no longer needs to get imported into the platforms, but create it directly in place by Vantage and that is what makes that story very powerful.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst

Perfect. That’s really helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyler Radke from Citi. Your line is open.

Tyler Radke

Analyst

Hey, thank you. And Oliver, congratulations on the new role. Oliver, I was hoping that you could share with us exactly how are measuring the strong adoption you seen at Vantage and could you also remind us how exactly that product is purchased or consumed? Is it customers upgrading to the latest version of Teradata? And just kind of walk us through that go-to-market mention. Thank you.

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Yes, thank you, Tyler. Yes, we made one of the big design goals for Vantage as we brought that technology together over the last several years was to make the migration for existing customers a seamless and as simple as possible. So, any existing customer on prior versions of Teradata can migrate straight into Vantage without any necessary changes to their data structures, datasets, applications, series . All of that is fully backward compatible making for very easy migration path. Vantage is consumed predominantly or almost exclusively as subscription which is driving up obviously our ARR and subscription mix. I talked in the remarks, we have over 100 customers that are in the process of rolling out Vantage in production. And that’s in a very short period of time that’s the fastest adoption of anything that Teradata builds in terms of software. In our history, that makes us obviously very optimistic for the future of Vantage. Customer feedback and reception is very good. And so, yes, ease of deployments big part and on the other side, the fact that when they migrate to Vantage, it's reducing their complexity of their ecosystems because many of these analytical capabilities has to be handcrafted as if we heard before point solutions, point versions of different languages and frameworks. This now comes integrated for our customers and that takes a lot of complexity away from length of business as well as IT department what has to develop this in-house.

Tyler Radke

Analyst

Great. And a follow-up for Mark, we saw, obviously, the services - consulting services guidance for 2019. Just curious how you are thinking about realigning the consulting group? What you are factoring in, in terms of headcount reductions? And how you are thinking about minimizing the disruption that something that could cause? Thank you.

Mark Culhane

Analyst

Yes, so, yes, Tyler. So we are focusing and realigning it around our megadata customers to drive more consumption of our Vantage analytics software platform. So, we are reorganizing the various sets of skills and practices that we have around this the consequence of which is, yes, we said we expect less revenue, because we are not new in consulting for consulting sake. We are doing consulting clearly with a focus around megadata customers and driving consumption. So, the consequence of that is, yes, there is going to be lower costs which are going to improve the overall margin profile, operating profile for the company. In terms of headcount reduction versus what just happens through natural attrition, it will be a combination of both of that. But we feel good about where that is in process, which is why Q1 has traditionally been our lowest quarter from a operating margin perspective and then it builds throughout the year, which is the same as if you look across what happened in 2017 and 2018 that’s the phenomenon and the nature of our business, which is just that we are driving it squarely to align to the strategy.

Tyler Radke

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And thank you very much. We are now out of time. I will turn the call back to Oliver Ratzesberger for final remarks.

Oliver Ratzesberger

Analyst

Yes, Thank you very much, everyone. To summarize, I want to say, we are really pleased with our excellent performance in Q4 and 2018. First and foremost, I’d like to reiterate a big thank you to our great Teradata people. Our success would not have been possible without their dedication to our customers. As we said, we believe we are very well positioned and very optimistic for 2019. Our strategy is definitely working. Our execution is well underway and we are committed to continued customer success and driving long-term value for our shareholders. With that, we look forward to updating you again in May. Thank you very much and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today’s call. You may now disconnect.