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Teradata Corporation (TDC)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 27, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Carol and I will be your conference operator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 2017 Teradata Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Gregg Swearingen.

Gregg Swearingen - Teradata Corp.

Management

Good morning and thanks for joining us for our second quarter earnings call. Victor Lund, Teradata's CEO will begin our call this morning with an update on our progress in transforming Teradata. Oliver Ratzesberger, EVP and Chief Product Officer will then provide an update on the progress we've made with our Teradata Everywhere strategy. Then CFO, Steve Scheppmann will discuss our second quarter results as well as our expectations for 2017. Our discussion today includes forecast and other information are considered forward-looking statements. While these statements reflect our current outlook, they are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially. These risk factors are described in Teradata's 10-K, 10-Q and other filings with the SEC. On today's call, we will also be discussing certain non-GAAP financial information, which excludes such items as stock-based compensation expense and other special items described in our earnings release, including asset impairments, acquisition, reorganization and transformation-related costs, and the Marketing Applications business, which was sold in 2016. We will also discuss other non-GAAP items such as free cash flow and constant currency revenue comparisons. A reconciliation of our non-GAAP results to our reported GAAP results and other information concerning these measures is included in our earnings release and on the Investor page of Teradata's website. A replay of this conference call will be available later today on our website. Teradata assumes no obligation to update or revise the information included in this conference call whether as a result of new information or future results. Now we'll hear from Vic.

Victor L. Lund - Teradata Corp.

Management

Thank you, Gregg. Our discussions to-date have laid out our strategy, which is business outcome-led and technology enabled. This strategy is extremely relevant today. Customers face many challenges driving high-impact business outcomes from data and analytics, and they need help. Our strategy is focused on our customers' success. We help customers prioritize and deliver their highest impact analytic use cases. We ensure that our customers deploy the best fit architectures to meet their unique data and analytic priorities, and we implement, support and manage the most integrated and scalable analytical ecosystem technology to ensure our customers can build lasting analytic capabilities. Today, I'm going to give a brief update on our progress. First and foremost, our customers love the capabilities of Terdata software and our teams that support it. However, a year ago, they didn't like our pricing and deployment rigidity, especially regarding our ability to deploy in the cloud. In Oliver's comments, he will discuss how we have addressed these concerns. Additionally, we found our customers are laser-focused on figuring out the type of analytical ecosystem they need. Analytical ecosystems have become more complex as they have expanded to include, among other things, data warehouses, data lakes and multiple cloud offerings. Our customers want advice from people they trust to help them understand and navigate this complicated puzzle. The goal is to deliver business outcomes they need in today's competitive environment in a cost-efficient way. Given our experience and knowledge, we are uniquely qualified to serve their needs. Our customers are among the world's 500 largest analytically driven companies. Many of them require purpose-built analytic solutions that meet the unique needs of their respective businesses. solutions that have the capability to seamlessly interface with and process analytics in an increasingly diverse ecosystem. This not only speeds up the time…

Oliver Ratzesberger - Teradata Corp.

Management

Good morning, everyone. It's an exciting time to be at Teradata. I'm very pleased to share with you the progress we have made, how our customers are reacting to our new strategy and to demonstrate the confidence we have internally at Teradata. We have created an amazing new company with a new strategy focused on driving high impact business outcomes for our customers and returning Teradata to meaningful revenue growth. Our new strategy is focused on providing our customers flexibility and choice, making it easier for them to purchase Teradata's market-leading analytics solutions. I meet with many of our current and prospective customers, and they love that our solutions are now more affordable and our purchasing options are more flexible than ever before. As a result, we are seeing increasing momentum and activity that sets us up well for the end of 2017 and into 2018. A foundational element of our strategy is Teradata Everywhere. We created Teradata Everywhere to help customers meet their data and analytic needs today and in the future. Teradata Everywhere provides our customers three core benefits. First, we are enabling our customers to implement Teradata across flexible deployment options including public, private, managed clouds, and on-premises deployments. Our customers can deploy on their hardware, our purpose-built Teradata platforms or public cloud infrastructures. Second, our solutions can now be purchased in more accommodating ways with our simplified pricing bundles that address the needs of different customer use cases at different price points. All pricing bundles are delivered through subscription-based pricing and as the service options. And third, Teradata Everywhere is future-ready. Customers can take advantage of our affordable licensing to change where they run their Teradata software as their hybrid cloud needs evolve. Through a combination off our market-leading technology in Teradata Everywhere and our highly…

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Thanks, Oliver. And good morning. Our strategy is working and providing customers greater flexibility in how they deploy and consume Teradata, including our subscription-based options. However, our reported financial result doesn't quite tell this whole story as the impact of this transition particularly as it relates to our revenue. I want to provide you my perspective on our second quarter financial results when adjusted for an increasing mix of subscription-based transactions. This perspective is based on our analysis as it relates to specific transactions that had transitioned to subscription-based options. When I discussed our expectations for the second quarter on our Q1 earnings call, our estimates for reported Q2 revenue were in the range of $510 million to $530 million which assumed that we'll do approximately $30 million to $40 million of perpetual equivalent transactions converting to our subscription options. Said another way, our analysis indicated that our Q2 revenue, when combined with the perpetual equivalent transactions, would approximate $540 million to $570 million on a total perpetual equivalent basis. When looking at our Q2 results, you see $513 million of reported revenue. What you don't see is the impact of customers that shows our subscription-base to options in the second quarter. During Q2, we had $58 million of subscription-based perpetual equivalent transactions or $18 million higher than the high end of our $30 million to $40 million expected range. Combining our reported revenue with this $58 million results in a total of $571 million, slightly above the high end of our perpetual equivalent range of $540 million to $570 million. This clearly demonstrates the increasing demand for Teradata's products. In fact, we believe that the total perpetual equivalent for product revenue has bottomed out and we expect an increase in total perpetual equivalent product revenue in the second half…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our first question this morning comes from Wamsi Mohan from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Wamsi Mohan - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Yes. Thank you. Good morning. Your perpetual equivalent guidance for the back half, suggests that you can have up to 30% higher perpetual equivalent in second half versus first half which would suggest that you're significantly accelerating the move to subscription revenues. And Oliver had mentioned customers are now looking at new analytic use cases where you would not have been considered before. Can you share some examples of this and do you feel now that, conclusively, customer purchasing is shifting more towards subscription? And I have a quick follow up.

Victor L. Lund - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. Wamsi, let me take the first part. Then I'll turn to Oliver on the use cases, but yes, Wamsi what we're seeing in the second half is clearly what we see in building, in the funnel, is more activity going towards these deployment consumption options on the subscription basis particularly in the Americas and we're actually seeing that activity picking up in internationally, more so in the second half. So again, a strong adoption of these consumption models and we're seeing net increase in the sales funnel in the Americas and the international. And even to the extent that we're looking at potentially increasing our assumptions as we go into 2018 with respect to the adoption. So again, a very strong statement with respect to the adoption of these flexible pricing models. I'll let Oliver lead to any of particular business value use cases that we're seeing.

Oliver Ratzesberger - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. Wamsi, I mentioned one use case where a very large semiconductor company internationally purchased Teradata IntelliFlex in the second quarter. And that is really to perform yield optimization of chip manufacturing plants. And as I mentioned in my remarks before, those are not the traditional use cases that Teradata was chosen for, right, but now first of all with the underlying platform in this case, IntelliFlex and the solid state options that we have in there and the high performance that we can deliver at that, plus the new pricing options that we have, that simply combine all the relevant features of Teradata into a single pricing bundle. It makes it so much easier for customers to choose Teradata and to implement that. And we are seeing that throughout our customer base that really the changes that we have implemented with the strategy already starting to take hold globally with a lot of companies, and therefore, new use cases are coming in.

Wamsi Mohan - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Thanks a lot. Appreciate the color. And then Steve, if I could just follow-up really quick. Thanks for the new supplemental breakdown into the recurring elements here. Given that you're seeing increased traction across subscription base offerings, why are we not seeing more of a pickup in the recurring product line in 2017? Is that just because we only had a few quarters of this model transition, so 2018 should be substantially higher?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. Wamsi, what you're seeing is exactly the latter part of that statement. Like the large Q1 deal, you have now a small portion. You know that's a five-year deal. So in Q2, you have a portion of that coming in. What we're seeing, if I'm looking behind the numbers, I see product ARR growing 3x at the end of 2017 compared to the end of 2016. So we definitely see that build in the product ARR, almost 3x. You see bookings, which on a combined basis, perpetual, cloud and term, bookings are increasing close to 15%. So again, strong bookings coming through, strong product ARR coming through. That's where we're seeing the activity right now. And as you're right – you're correct. As that keeps building, it keeps rolling in. What I'm seeing in 2018 is finishing 2017 very strong and there being a very positive impact on that product line, revenue in 2018 with respect to that recurring piece rolling into 2018. So yeah, it's the latter part. We're at the early stages of the ARR building and the ARR releasing into the income statement, into the revenue line item and 2018 will have more positive impact.

Wamsi Mohan - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Raimo Lenschow from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Raimo Lenschow - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Hey, I have two quick ones. So the first one is more a follow-up, Steve. But if I look at that subscription line, it went actually down sequentially. So I'm just kind of like I know that is rolling in slower, but if you're doing so much more, why is that going down sequentially in subscription?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

The subscription – the revenue from it is – continues to – there's nothing unusual, Raimo, in that line item. The recurring product line in Q3, the $69 million to $75 million on that recurring revenue line item is improving as those items roll through. The perpetual side is falling off on the perpetual side, but then again that's expected as these things convert to subscription. Am I getting right at your question on that?

Raimo Lenschow - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can take it off. We can do it later, Steve. And then the – if I...

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

There's nothing unusual, Raimo, going through those line items from what we're seeing as those term or subscription transactions roll through.

Raimo Lenschow - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And then your comments around the Q3, Q4, do I just kind of simply read into that, like, if you look at your funnel and how the funnel is evolving, then Q4 is shaping up as a very, very strong year. It's just that if you look at the deals in the pipeline, they more look like Q4 deals than in Q3 and that's why we have kind of the messaging today. Is that kind of the right way to think about it?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. There's two messages there. Yes, that latter is one of the messages. And what we're also seeing, Raimo, with our movement towards the subscription type transactions, we're not – how is a good to say this. We're not kind of being held hostage at quarter end to try to get a perpetual transaction done. And even in Q2, we had two to three transactions that if they were on a perpetual basis, we would've said okay, what do we need to do to get them into the quarter; but on a subscription basis says, hey, we want to do the right thing to maintain our margins. Those deals, they were on subscription basis, one was on a perpetual basis, rolled over Q2, got closed in the first two weeks of Q3. I'm anticipating some of that happen in Q3 to Q4, but generally what we find, to your latter point, we find 12/31 as a kind of natural back-stop for everybody with their budgets and the deals get completed in Q4. We're not going to sacrifice any margin on any transactions just to get it into the quarter. And so that's why I'm saying Q3, we might see a couple of those things, those subscription deals kind of roll over the first part of Q4, get done in the first part of Q4, but then I expect that natural progression in Q4 to get done – to get the transactions done in Q4.

Raimo Lenschow - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Perfect. Very clear. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Derrick Wood from Cowen & Company. Please go ahead. J. Derrick Wood - Cowen & Co. LLC: Right. Thanks. A question for Steve, and congrats on the traction with subscription. I mean, as you look into second half, what we typically see when there's an acceleration to ratable revenue, there's actually incremental pressure on the model and it causes total revenue to kind of come down and be more pressured and that's not really the case in terms of what you're seeing in second half. So can you give us quantitative or qualitative mechanics on why this accelerated shift is lifting what you had previously guided to? And maybe there's some FX benefits in there. I know the euro has gone up a lot. Maybe you can speak to FX as well.

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. Derrick, yeah, FX we saw 1% headwind in the first half, seeing about 1% tailwind in the second half, flat for the year but when I'm referring to our total revenue, our entire model isn't shifting to subs; it's just the product revenue. We have other elements – the consulting side, the maintenance side, that we see continuing to have reasonable growth in that second half. And as a result, we see that offsetting and bringing down our expectations. Now remember, when I said earlier on our Analyst Day that companies typically go through this and they see a 5% to 10% decline in reported revenue in the next year, those were kind of the fence posts that we set up there. And what we're seeing – and we made some assumptions as to what amount of new Tcore that would go to subscriptions and existing customers that would go to subscriptions. We're not transitioning our full base of revenue to that. And then when I see the amounts coming through, we're basically at our original expectation, slightly higher, but that kept me down to that lower level of that 5% to 7% versus 5% to 10%. So really, no significant change. I had broad fence posts, goalposts there to kind of set up 2017 because there was a lot of sensitivity to our assumptions. But now that we see the actual activity kind of tracking towards our assumptions a little bit better than what we had anticipated, I feel comfortable bringing that range down into a tighter range of 5% to 7% without any significant changes to that model. So everything that we're seeing, we're at that 5% to 7% range. I don't want you to lead into it that's saying, okay, if more is going to go, we could be above that 10% range. No. We're going to be within that 5% to 7% range, and it's really driven by the other part of our business that's not going to the sub's model. J. Derrick Wood - Cowen & Co. LLC: Got it. That's helpful. And just a quick follow-up. The maintenance growth of 5%, pretty amazing given the 40% decline in perpetual license revenue. I mean, how sustainable is this? Does it start to really decelerate or is it more resilient?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. It's pretty resilient because of the service levels that our customers expect from us. We're still growing their – Tcore, I want to make sure that this point gets out there, Tcore growth is still 20% off of our 12/31/2016 installed base. Okay? So there's still good growth for Tcore out there year-over-year, driving that maintenance and driving the support that our customers expect from us. So maintenance continues to be resilient. I expect maintenance always to be in that kind of low-single-digit growth rate, even with our reported product revenue numbers, because, again, underneath the underlying core of it, Tcore is growing 20% over the 12/31/2016 installed base. J. Derrick Wood - Cowen & Co. LLC: Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Bhavan Suri from William Blair & Company. Please go ahead. Bhavan Singh Suri - William Blair & Co. LLC: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe the first one for Oliver and then a quick follow-up for Steve. Oliver, as you look at the deployment options, you've talked about sort of expanding use cases, but when you look at your customers as deploying, say an AWS or Azure or pure cloud as opposed to on-premise subscription, on the competitive front, are you seeing anyone new? Are you sort of seeing running into some of the newer vendors like Snowflake at all? And how does performance of TDC on AWS compare with Snowflake? Because we've seen the Redshift numbers, but I'd love to get your thoughts on Snowflake.

Oliver Ratzesberger - Teradata Corp.

Management

Bhavan, thank you. Thanks for the question. Obviously, we are eagerly watching every single competitor that is out there and what they're trying to do. In reality, what we're seeing is while some of these competitors were to the cloud faster, their performance, and specifically for the use cases that our customers care the most which is high concurrency, high scale, high complex workloads, that's where we differentiate the most. And so far what we are seeing is that for all the cloud-based competitors, they might have a place in small deployments for small companies, but once the data volumes grow to a certain size, once the complexity of the workload takes off, and more importantly once the concurrency takes off, meaning you have a couple of hundred users or a thousand users asking complex questions all the time, this is where we are seeing a node-for-node advantage of over 100x with the Teradata software. And so far it has been universal in all these competitors. And so when we look back, we have been dealing with competitors obviously for many years. And the difference that we see now is while some of the competitors have been earlier to a cloud or focus more on the cloud, they have focused less on the performance than some competitors we have years ago. And so that is something that now that we have full cloud deployment options, and more importantly we have that portability that none of the other options have, right. So if you go to a Snowflake, or if you go to Redshift, or if you go to some of the other options out there, you are locking yourself in to one particular cloud platform. And our customers simply don't know where they want to be tomorrow. They might be…

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah, Bhavan. Most of it's really on-premise; our entire system. Now we're seeing... Bhavan Singh Suri - William Blair & Co. LLC: Got it.

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

... good growth, again, the real small numbers, but if I'm looking at cloud, I'm seeing strong growth in cloud. ARR would go 3x on cloud. So there's good growth, but the big numbers that grow is largely entire systems going to subscription, but that shift is growing, I mean, throughout. Bhavan Singh Suri - William Blair & Co. LLC: Got it. Got it. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll get back in queue. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Philip Winslow from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Philip Winslow - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Hey thanks, guys, for taking my question. Thanks for the color on Tcore growth. I'm wondering if you have a sense for the just the pricing environment that you're seeing out there kind of relative to the Tcore growth itself. And I just have one follow-up for Steve after that.

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. What I would say, Philip on the pricing, is really look at our product gross margins. That product gross margin continues to hold and it really would indicate that our pricing strategy is operating very, very effectively in there. And what I would say overall is to give you comfort that we're not giving that Tcore away, that our objective for 2017 is that average revenue that average price for Tcore to be consistent with 2016, even with performance improvements. So again, solid pricing across all of our offerings from a pricing strategy perspective and that product gross margin continues to perform very well.

Philip Winslow - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Got it. And then, Steve, I know you gave some color as far as the ARR that you expect to add in 2018. When you think about the mix of perpetual versus, call it, perpetual equivalent, how do you see that shifting in 2018? It seems like you're kind of in the high-30%s right now as far as what's shifting to subscription. How do you see that turning in 2018?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

It's interesting, Philip. We're going through that and seeing, as I mentioned earlier, we're exactly above where we thought we would be performing. We're above in the Americas, down a little bit internationally. And that's probably what we've been expected. In the 2018, and what we're seeing in the funnel in 2017, we actually see the international subscription business picking up in the second half. So what I'm looking at modeling out in 2018 is a little bit more – slightly more improvement on that conversion in the Americas with better improvement internationally and a little bit higher – potentially higher conversion rate in 2018 versus 2017 at this point in time.

Philip Winslow - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Got it. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jesse Hulsing from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Jesse Hulsing - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Yeah. Thank you. Steve, can you give us a reminder of what the conversion is to get to your perpetual equivalent? I'm wondering how much ACV or ARR have you booked over the last three quarters before you convert because I think that would help us understand how the subscription revenue will transition in the second half?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah, Jesse. Our basis or how we calculate perpetual equivalent revenue is on a transaction-by-transaction basis. We look at what Tcore they will be consuming on a subscription basis and price it out as though they bought it on a perpetual basis. That's the on-premise side. Now to be conservative on that, Jesse, if they are buying it on a one-year contract basis, I do not calculate out that they would've bought that on a perpetual basis. I take the lower of; the lower of the contract value on a one-year basis or the equivalent, if they would have purchased. With respect to cloud, we look at the software-only content with respect on that cloud and over their contractual period. So again, I'm not adding in anything on the hardware side saying – assuming if they were to purchase that on the hardware side. The perpetual equivalent that we're looking at, as I said, in the prepared remarks, increasing in the second half of the year from the $108 million in the first half. ARR has grown $50 million over the last three quarters, on that product ARR. Jesse Hulsing - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Yeah. Okay.

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

And so there's, again, strong growth in there. We're looking that product ARR continue to grow 25% in 2017 and in that mid-20%s for 2018. So again, very solid growth, but the perpetual equivalent, I want to leave you with that is, again, a truly equivalent one, but if the contractor rental period is less than what they would have bought it for, we're using at the lower of. Did you understand that? I mean, am I clear on that, Jesse? We're trying to be very conservative, not to just bump up a one-year rental agreement. Jesse Hulsing - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Yes. Yes. That makes sense. And to follow-up on Raimo's question about subscription revenue. I guess if you booked $50 million of ARR in the first three quarters, I would've expected that to grow quarter-over-quarter in the second quarter and...

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yes and Jesse... Jesse Hulsing - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: ... what's the disconnect there?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. Now that we've asked it twice, I'll explain. There was an anomaly in one of our perpetual customers that went to subscription in Q2 that impacted that number. If you look at – because seasonally, seasonally we went down Q1 to Q2 last year and we went down Q1 to Q2 this year, but as you said with that growing of that ARR, you would expect to that number in Q2 to come up. We have an anomaly, and rightfully so this was a good anomaly to have but it comes down to one customer that took the upgrade rights that we're baked into previously. If you look at that recurring line item, it says rights to upgrade subscription in cloud, okay. They took their software upgrade rights and went to an ELA's term software. And by taking it there, moved it out of the line items to the perpetual software and took it out of that subscription right. And that was a sizable amount in Q2. But what it does though, what I want to highlight here is it does illustrate that our customers do have the choice. Okay. We want to do the right thing for the customers even though it might adversely impact the line item which it did in this quarter, but it was the right thing to do for the customer. It's an anomaly. That's why I was trying to emphasize to Raimo that there's nothing unusual from a recurring perspective in that line item, but there is that anomaly in Q2. So I'm glad you gave me the opportunity to straighten that one out. Jesse Hulsing - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: That makes sense. And I also wanted to ask quickly on your sales and marketing investments. Obviously, a pretty meaningful ramp quarter-over-quarter in SG&A. What are you – are you investing in new territories, are you investing in overlays for the cloud products? Where are those investments going?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. The investments are going in, primarily that direct customer-facing point context. As Vic talked about, we continue to look at the opportunity to drive business value with our customers and we continue to make the investments targeted at our largest 500 analytical opportunities in the world and bring the right resources to bear for those customers to drive that business value. So the majority of that SG&A increase, all, is in the go-to-market areas and particularly – very specifically direct customer-facing investments. Jesse Hulsing - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC: Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Karl Keirstead from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Karl E. Keirstead - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Yeah. Hi. Two for Steve. Steve, just back to your 2018 revenue guidance, I think you said that you would expect revenue growth in 2018. I just wanted to confirm that's a little higher than I think most Street analysts are modeling. Is that a reported revenue number that you think should go up versus 2017 or is that some kind of equivalent or adjusted basis? And secondly, are you assuming positive maintenance growth in 2018 to get there?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah, Karl. What I'm basing that on is our assumptions that we are looking at right now with respect to the conversion to subscription. And given those assumptions that we're looking at now and looking at how that product AR is rolling through and looking at what we're assuming total Tcore will grow in 2018 over the 12/31/2017 installed base, I'm seeing that – and I'm calculating that into reported product revenue number. Then when I look at our other segments of the business with respect to maintenance and consulting, maintenance I'm anticipating will continue to grow low-single-digits, and consulting continuing to grow that those would offset the reported product revenue number and result in a slight increase in reported revenue in 2018.

Karl E. Keirstead - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Awesome. Thank you. And then my second question is just on the share count for 2017, Steve, I know it's tough and I'm essentially asking for a little color on the timing of the buyback, but modeling the full year share count is important to get to our EPS number. What would you anticipate if you can say what the full year average diluted share count should be sort of post that second half repurchase?

Stephen Mark Scheppmann - Teradata Corp.

Management

Yeah. And what I'm seeing is that, depending upon the timing of the share repurchases, that could have a favorable impact on EPS maybe of $0.01 to $0.025, $0.01 to $0.03 rather. And it's our expectation to be, again, very optimistic in executing that.

Karl E. Keirstead - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Steve.

Operator

Operator

We will now turn the call back over to Mr. Lund for closing remarks.

Victor L. Lund - Teradata Corp.

Management

Everyone, thank you for your questions and insights. I think you can sense that we're excited about where we are. Things are coming together. We have still a lot of work to do, any of the transformation, that happens, but I want you to know from an operational perspective, we are 100% focused on growth here. I look at that every day. The numbers are confusing the 606, it's even going to be more confusing next year but we are focused on growth and we are seeing that. We're looking at our consulting revenue. We want to make sure the revenue we're doing is focused to get customer accounts that we want and that when going after, and that that will drive Teradata software growth either directly or indirectly. A lot of questions about our G&A. We are building a support organization, but I want you to know that we are laser-focused on making sure that those investments we're making, get stabilized and make us a more efficient organization. We have a lot of opportunity to improve the way we operate. And we are working on that, monitoring it closely and finding a better, a quality organization that's able to function in the new environment we see. So we're continuously excited but we're also not naïve. We have a lot of work to do here but I think we have the plan. I don't think I know we have the plan to drive this forward and I'm monitoring it every day. So again, thank you for taking the time. We look forward to talk to you all demonstrating our continued performance in the third quarter. So thank you very much, and with that, we'll conclude the call.

Operator

Operator

This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.