Michael F. Koehler
Analyst
The -- first of all, Katy, I would look at EMEA. We're having some pretty good results, especially when you look at it in constant currency. The currency headwinds for EMEA in Q3 are about 10 points. And basically, what we're seeing with EMEA as you look at the second half of the year, more impact from currency offset by the strong pipeline as well as we're getting some really strong results out of some of the newer markets, such as Russia, the Middle East and some others. So the net-net, because of the currency, if you look at EMEA organically without the favorable impact of eCircle, it's going to be challenged, as reported, as we look at the second half, but they should grow double digits in constant currency in the second half organically. In the case of APJ, they're pretty back-end loaded. As you mentioned, with China, we expect the deals that have been pushed out and delayed in the first half of the year to start closing, hopefully, some in the third quarter, but most of it's back-end loaded. And when we look at APJ overall, the third quarter, we see it more on the light side with more upside in the fourth quarter. And then overall, when we look at the Americas, the rate of growth they've had over the past several years, we're beginning to see a little bit of a slowdown in the rate of growth simply because of the magnitude of some of the prior year comparables that we're running against there. The activity in everything else in the Americas is very good, and we have pretty good visibility on the third quarter. And in the third quarter, we think we're more towards the lower end of the 9% to 13% we're talking about, the growth in constant currency in the second half. So on the third quarter, as it stands today, we see us more towards the low end of that. And the real upside or the real wildcard comes in the fourth quarter with product revenue. We've got a pretty good handle, as you can imagine, on maintenance and consulting, which operates with a pretty good backlog. The real wildcard will come down to product revenue in the fourth quarter. So -- and back to your original question. You look at first half, second half, we're feeling impacts of the macro. There's definitely some impacts, and it's not just EMEA. You can see it in our consulting business. Some of the customers are doing more in house. Some of the customers are working with smaller chunks of consulting as opposed to broader-based projects. And so we're feeling some of those impacts broadly.