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BlackRock TCP Capital Corp. (TCPC)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 6, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. Welcome everyone to BlackRock TCP Capital Corp's Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the Company's formal remarks. [Operator Instructions] I'll repeat these instructions before we begin the Q&A session.And now, I would like to turn the call over to Katie McGlynn, Director of the BlackRock TCP Capital Corp, Global Investor Relations Team. Katie, please proceed.

Kathleen McGlynn

Analyst

Thank you, Shannon. Before we begin, I'll note that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements based on the estimates and assumptions of management at the time of such statements, and are not guarantees of future performance. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Any forward-looking statements made on this call are made as of today and are subject to change without notice.This morning, we issued our earnings release for the third quarter ended September 30, 2019. We also posted a supplemental earnings presentation to our website at tcpcapital.com. To view the slide presentation, which we will refer to on today's call, please click on the Investor Relations link and select Events & Presentations. These documents should be reviewed in conjunction with the Company's Form 10-Q, which was filed with the SEC this morning.I will now turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Howard Levkowitz.

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Thanks, Katie. I'm here with our TCPC team. And we thank everyone for participating on our call today. I will start with an overview of our third quarter performance and then our CFO, Paul Davis, will review our financial results. After Paul's comments, I will provide some closing remarks before opening the call to your questions.I will begin with a few highlights from the third quarter that are summarized on Slide 4 of our investor presentation. First, we earned net investment income of $0.43 per share, out earning our dividend by $0.07. This was a 30th consecutive quarter that our net investment income covered our dividend. And today, we declared our fourth quarter dividend of $0.36 per share payable on December 31 to shareholders of record as of December 17.Second, we delivered another strong quarter of deployments, totaling $176 million. We continue to leverage both our longstanding relationships with borrowers and deal sources, and the power of BlackRock platform to identify unique and attractive investment opportunities.Dispositions in the quarter were $181 million, resulting in net dispositions of $5 million. A large number of these dispositions occurred at the end of the quarter, elevating our average portfolio size and net investment income for the quarter and resulting in prepayment income of $0.06 per share.Third, we are privileged to have access to diverse, low cost and flexible sources of financing, including secured and unsecured debt. To that point in August, we successfully issued $150 million of senior unsecured notes with a five-year maturity at an attractive rate of 3.9%.I would like to discuss some of the larger movements in our portfolio during the third quarter. We experienced more volatility in the valuation of a few of our investments that we typically experience. Leading portfolio gains was a $5.2 million increase in the…

Paul Davis

Analyst

Thanks, Howard, and hello everyone. Starting on Slide 16, net investment income in the third quarter was $0.43 per share, exceeding our dividend of $0.36 by 19%. This extends our record of covering our regular dividend every quarter since we went public in early 2012. Over this period on a cumulative basis, we have out-earned our dividends by an aggregate $43 million or $0.73 per share based on total shares outstanding at quarter end.Investment income for the third quarter was $0.88 per share, substantially all of which was interest income. This includes recurring cash interest of $0.69, recurring discount and fee amortization of $0.04 and PIK income of $0.06. We also generated $0.06 per share from prepayment income, including both prepayment fees and unamortized OID.Our income recognition follows our conservative policy of generally amortizing upfront economics over the life of an investment rather than recognizing all of it at the time the investment is made.Operating expenses for the third quarter were $0.45 per share and included incentive compensation of $0.09 per share, as well as interest and other debt expenses of $0.21 per share for net investment income of $0.43 per share. Incentive compensation during the third quarter reflected the reduction in our incentive fee rate from 20% to 17.5% that took effect on February 9 of this year. Net unrealized losses of $6.7 million or $0.11 per share were primarily driven by the portfolio company valuation changes Howard discussed earlier.As of September 30, we had loans to three portfolio companies on non-accrual status, Fidelity, AGY and Avanti, representing 1.4% of the portfolio at market value and 3.8% at cost. We placed Fidelis on non-accrual last quarter and Avanti has been challenged for some time. AGY is a fundamentally good company, whose valuation is currently less than its debt.Turning to…

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Thanks, Paul. We are pleased with our strong net investment income, dividend coverage and disciplined origination activity during the quarter. Our team is focused on delivering the results our shareholders have come to expect from TCPC. Middle market borrowers continue to look for tailored financing solutions from lenders who know their businesses.However, we are cautious on the environment, given the idiosyncratic company and industry shifts we continue to observe. Given this, we continue to be disciplined in our underwriting, executing only a small number of the investment opportunities we review each quarter.We make investment decisions based on a comprehensive analysis of each company, its management team and strategy and relevant industry dynamics. With this in mind, we continue to leverage our platform to pursue attractive investment opportunities.In the fourth quarter to date through November 5, we have invested approximately $69.2 million, primarily in five senior secured loans. The combined effective yield of these investments is approximately 10.1%.Looking ahead, we believe we are well positioned to continue to generate strong and consistent performance for several reasons. Our 20-plus years of experience, which spans several market cycles, is a key advantage in attracting borrowers and deal sources as well as managing risk.Our robust origination platform gives us the ability to source unique and attractive investment opportunities. The scale of the BlackRock platform enhances our deal flow, supporting our selective investment approach. As a lead or co-lead on most of our investments, we take an active role in due diligence, deal structuring, establishing terms and monitoring investments.The direct relationships we form with borrowers as part of this process help protect TCPC and its shareholders. The BlackRock TCP team is structured, so that deal team members source, structure and monitor investments to ensure interests are aligned over the life of an investment.And finally, the BlackRock TCP team has deep experience in both performing and distressed credit. This helps us structure deals that are downside protected and manage through any challenges that may arise.In closing, we remain focused on generating superior risk adjusted returns for our investors, while preserving capital with downside protection.And with that, operator, please open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Chris Kotowski with Oppenheimer & Company. Your line is open.

Chris Kotowski

Analyst

Yes. Good afternoon, or morning in your case. I was just wondering, it seems like you've been fairly active on the right hand side of the balance sheet with the new notes and just noticed the reduction of the facility. And I was wondering, is that all just kind of opportunistic or is there kind of a programmatic move in your view to move toward more fixed rate liabilities or is there a strategy or it was primarily optimistic or is the strategy just broadening and diversifying as always?

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Chris, it's Howard. Thanks for the question. Our liability management is really a function of our risk management perspective and wanting to diversify our sources of funding. We have two revolvers in SBA facility, a series of note facilities and a convert and we had expanded our revolver capacity earlier in the year when it was attractive to do so.And when it became attractive to issue the 3.9% notes, the summer we did so, but then we looked at it and felt we had more credit capacity than we needed and we have good relationships with our banks, so we were able to unwind a portion of the incremental facilities debt that we had taken on. We had taken on incremental debt from both of our lenders and just unwound it from one of them.

Chris Kotowski

Analyst

Okay. And then, the one area where you seem to be running up toward capacity is on the SBA debentures. Can you remind us of where you stand on potentially expanding that?

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Currently, we still got some cash available in the SBIC and [indiscernible] dropdown, so we still have the capacity to use that, but are in process of looking at expanding our SBIC facility as well.

Chris Kotowski

Analyst

Okay. And then, finally for me, you always provide that interest rate sensitivity chart on Page 7 and obviously, we had, I guess, one rate cut in July and one in October. And I'm just kind of curious how long – just from the narrow point of view of an analyst who's trying to model out the next couple of quarters, how long before we kind of feel that impact given kind of the rollovers in your portfolio?

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

So Chris, this is Howard again. You are feeling it. It's rolling through. Most of our assets are on three month resets. Not all of them, but most of them as are the floating rate liabilities. So they may not all flow through concurrently, but you're getting it real time. We've had compression year-over-year in LIBOR of about 66 basis points and so the reason our overall portfolio yield is down this quarter is a combination of two things.As we discussed, we exited a few of our second lien positions in our one larger junior note, which were higher yielding positions at overall 11.6%, but you're also seeing the effect of LIBOR, which was down 25 basis points this quarter flowing through. We do have on the vast majority of our investments LIBOR floors, but we'll see where rates go.

Chris Kotowski

Analyst

Okay. All right. That's it for me. Thank you.

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Hi guys. Just following up on that question a little bit, rather than yield, can you give us any color on what you're seeing on spreads? I mean, some evidence or some data indicates middle market spreads are widening a little bit right now on – what are you seeing in kind of the pipeline for kind of like-for-like kind of spreads because obviously, mix effects. But what's really going on the spread rather than the yields?

Rajneesh Vig

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Right. Robert, it's Raj speaking. I'll try to address that. I think, look, everything in our business seems to be a little bit episodic and we're very focused on being a value-added provider, financing provider to our counterparts. And I think, historically that's led to a more stable spread for us even in an environment where it's been reducing.I do agree with your sentiment that there seems to be certainly a stabilization and as we look at the pipeline even opportunity to take that wider, but again, it's very episodic in a deal-by-deal basis, but I think the environment is a little friendlier on the spread side, but it still ultimately comes down to being able to find the opportunities, be positioned to win those. It's still a competitive environment, but I think we've seen some benefit on the other side of it, even though rates have gone down, and we're going to continue to look for those types of opportunities.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Got it. Thank you. And then talking about episodic, repayment is obviously very high this quarter, some junior, some second lien and some big loans that you've got back with prepayment fees. Have you got any indications right now about any large repayments coming in, either in the near-term because that can obviously move numbers around quite a lot?

Rajneesh Vig

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Yes, I think, like every quarter, it's hard to predict. We certainly have our eye on some things that we're working on opportunistically, but it's really – it can change quite quickly, so it wouldn't be fair to predict on that basis.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Got it. And then one final kind of housekeeping, dividend income in the quarter was the highest received in a while. I mean, it wasn't huge, but almost reached $1 million. Can you give us any color on where that comes from and is any of that associated with the conventional lending JV, which is now obviously up and running from what I understand?

Rajneesh Vig

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Yes. I can take that one. There has been some good activity on the 36 Street JV. We had some nice payments that flowed through, which would account for. I think a chunk of that dividend income. I would not annualize that, but we are pleased with the progress, we've made in that vehicle, which is season – I think more seasoned now, but that would not be the conventional lending one.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James. Your line is open.

Got it. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Lynch with KBW. Your line is open.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First one has to do with, if I look at your portfolio today, diversified financial services from an industry standpoint is your largest concentration today. That's grown substantially, just throughout 2019. So can you maybe just talk about why there has been significant growth in that area and why you guys feel that an attractive area to be in?

Paul Davis

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

Ryan, this is Paul. I'll start out there by noting that. This quarter we switched the industry classification system we use. We used to be used in categorizations based on the U.S. government industry classification system, but switched to – changed that to the current system with a view that it more closely aligns our financial reporting with the way we manage our business, including from an end market perspective, so that investors have a clear view of where our exposures are. And so, currently that system is the S&P system. So, the changes aren't necessarily apples and oranges, but we feel this gives better transparency and disclosure going forward.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

So it's more of a classification change I was reporting versus actually making focused efforts into that area? Is that's fair?

Paul Davis

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

Correct. Yes, well said. Thank you.

Rajneesh Vig

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

And I would just add to that, Ryan. It's Raj. That keep in mind that the JVs, which have grown as well, 36 Street in particular, would fall into that category.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

Okay. And then can you maybe talk a little bit about how your investment in Juul Labs? That deal was source to you and then maybe specifically with Juul, but also just broader, that obviously company has some controversy to it. So how do you guys get comfortable making investment, would you guys obviously view as an attractive risk-adjusted return, but potentially could have some reputation risk there?

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

Sure, this is Howard. Thanks for the question. As we mentioned about half our investments come from existing sources, and this is one of those. It wasn't an investment in the BDC that was a company that we had been involved with in one of our private funds, no longer involved within that capacity.And so, we had a pre-existing relationship. I think it's always difficult to answer a hypotheticals. But we invested in Juul in early August. On the premise that the company has developed an alternative to combustible cigarettes, that could dramatically reduce cigarette consumption.And our investment was based on fundamentally sound underwriting, which includes multiple sources of repayment, including a very low loan-to-value, cash well in excess of our debt and successful business operations in multiple locations. Having said that, we're very conscious of the headlines and the circumstances surrounding the company and we continue to monitor.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

Okay. Those are all my questions. I appreciate the time today.

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst · KBW. Your line is open.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open.

Can you guys provide any update on Fidelis?

Rajneesh Vig

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open.

Yes. This is Raj. I'll take that. I think the update here is very similar to some of the commentary last quarter. This is obviously a very important, but I would say isolated position and that we're dealing with the company. We continue to see some benefit both topline and as well as the outlook for the business based on the work we've done over – going back over a year-ago in terms of switching out management and making some changes.But as Howard mentioned in his prepared comments, there is a ongoing liquidity need and we are actively working to address that and hopefully resolve it and that may ultimately include us with the financing partner taking over the business or it might be an alternative.But I think the update again is very consistent with how we looked at the Company last quarter, where I parsed the business outlook from the liquidity outlook and it's an ongoing activity that we will just continue to try to update you all on.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open.

Great. And I guess, sort of a follow-up on the spread question from Robert Dodd. Given most of your first lien loans are adjustable rate and a lot of subordinated loans are fixed, at what point does rates for first lien search getting so unattractive, you start looking to go down the capital structure, incrementally and on a selective basis?

Rajneesh Vig

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open.

Sure. I'll take that. Again, it's Raj and I guess what I would do is first clarify. I don't know that all the junior paper or in our case, some second lien debt is fixed. In fact, a lot of that will be floating as well. So we always look at both the relative risk reward and it was the absolute return.Occasionally and episodically, we will look to go to a junior position and that tends to be in situations where we're very comfortable, obviously with the structural subordination. Oftentimes it's a smaller first lien and one that's placed with banks, but I think that assessment is ongoing and is real time, which we will look at that, but it really is situation specific.The portfolio as you know is, really, heavily weighted toward I think well covered and strong risk reward first liens, but the opportunities do exist and occasionally emerge to go junior.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks, Raj.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Fin O'Shea with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Good morning and afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. One follow-on the markdowns this quarter, can you expand on AGY touch that NIM looked previously beyond PIK and can you help us understand the context of putting a PIK, NIM on non-accrual, assuming that the cash isn't really shot up to pay a cash dividend anyway. What really happens in terms of the Company's profitability for you to go from PIK to non-accrual PIK?

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Sure. Fin, good morning on our end and afternoon on yours. It's Howard. AGY, I'll comment first on the business and then on the accounting and Paul may have something to add on the accounting.AGY is a fundamentally good business. We've had a couple of markdowns in that, we've been disappointed. It's a maker of high-end resins that go into a series of sophisticated end-use products. The markets for most of these have been strong.This quarter we saw some weakness on the international front, due to what we think is trade uncertainty and the Company was significantly impacted as some of its raw materials, particularly rhodium has soared and is at record price levels.As a result this, our valuation providers decreased the value of the Company to a level lower than where the instrument was valued and we thought that it called into question the collectability of the PIK to a sufficient point that it belonged on non-accrual.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

So just – the follow-up there is, is rhodium the input and the Company can't pass on the costs sustainably? Is that sort of the basic backdrop there?

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

This is a fairly recent record increase. We'll see what the Company can and can't do. But in terms of its impact on the business and these valuations are done with the benefit of the information in front of people at the time that they have, that it was marked down based on that. We think fundamentally it remains a good business with a unique product and unique positioning, but it is going through some lower earnings at this point.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate the color on that and can you provide, just a follow-up if I may, a update on the BlackRock private credit platform, private credit or direct lending assets as you see them that co-invest with the TCP BDC?

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Sure. We have, as I think people are well aware at BlackRock, BlackRock manages and other BDC, BKCC, which co-invests. In addition to that, we have a series of private funds and that is – we handle those in a consistent manner to the way that TCP handled them before we were acquired with BlackRock, which is quite simply under our allocation policy as approved by our independent Board members and consistent with applicable policies across this firm.If something works in multiple vehicles, they take it pro rata to the extent that they have grown. It's that simple. And so we have been investing that way in 1940 Act vehicles going back now since we got our original exemptive order in 2006 and it really hasn't changed today, albeit, we've got some older vehicles that are running off and that no longer have investment capacity and so we're bringing on new vehicles.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay. I appreciate the context and thanks for taking my question.

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

Fin, thanks for your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Howard Levkowitz for closing remarks.

Howard Levkowitz

Analyst

We appreciate your questions and our dialogue today. I would like to thank all of our shareholders for your confidence and your continued support and our experienced and talented team of professionals at BlackRock TCP Capital Corp for your continued hard work and dedication. Thanks again for joining us. This concludes today's call.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.