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Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 6, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to TrueBlue's conference call. Today's call is being recorded. Joining us today is TrueBlue's CEO, Steve Cooper; and CFO, Derrek Gafford. They will discuss TrueBlue's 2012 third (sic) [fourth] quarter earnings results, which were announced today. At this time, I would like to hand over to Ms. Stacey Burke for reading the Safe Harbor. Please go ahead, Ms. Burke.

Stacey Burke

Management

Thank you. Here with me today is TrueBlue's CEO and President, Steve Cooper; and CFO, Derrek Gafford. They will be discussing TrueBlue's Q4 and full year 2012 results, which were announced before market opened today. Please note that slides providing additional background on our results were included in our 8-K filing today, including a description of any non-GAAP terms. The company's press release, the accompanying financial schedules and the results slides are now available on our website at www.trueblue.com. Before I hand you over to Steve, I ask for your attention as I read the following Safe Harbor. Please note that on this conference call, management will reiterate forward-looking statements contained in today's press release and may make or refer to additional forward-looking statements relating to the company's financial results and operations in the future. Although we believe the expectations reflected in these statements are reasonable, actual results may be materially different. Additional information concerning factors which could cause results to differ materially is contained in the press release and in the company's filings with Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent Forms 10-Q and 10-K. I'll now hand this call over to TrueBlue CEO, Steve Cooper.

Steven Cooper

Management

Thank you, Stacey, and good morning, everyone. This morning we made 2 exciting announcements at TrueBlue. First, we had steady growth of revenue of 4% this quarter, aside from the reduction of our project with Boeing. Second, we have closed a transaction to acquire MDT Personnel, the third largest general labor staffing firm in the United States, serving industries such as construction, manufacturing, disaster recovery, hospitality and many other service industries. We welcome those new employees with us today. These are 2 very important and exciting announcements as they both support our position as the leading provider of blue-collar staffing. We will discuss the impact of both of these with you this morning. Our 2012 fourth quarter revenue was $345 million. This was slightly ahead of our high end guidance due to the Boeing revenue of $10 million in Q4 versus the $5 million we had projected. We are encouraged by the 4% growth in our core business during the quarter. We expect the same trend to hold in Q1 2013. We are projecting the Boeing business to be about $10 million in Q1 and then stabilize at $5 million during Q2 and going forward, which is about $50 million less in 2013 for this project than it contributed in 2012. Other general trends across geographies and industries remained fairly consistent with Q3 trends. Over the past 2 quarters, we have experienced a slight deceleration in manufacturing, distribution and retail, while we've experienced a slight improvement in overall construction. This construction improvement is a mix between residential and commercial, mostly with remodels. We are encouraged by the new housing starts we are beginning to see. We remain well equipped and ready to serve contractors as new housing starts develop and show growth. Our overall construction revenue is approximately 40% lower…

Derrek Gafford

Management

Thanks, Steve. I'll start off today with a high level discussion of this quarter's results and the key operational and financial trends. Then we'll spend some time with the MDT acquisition and finish with future expectations. Any reference to our performance is based on a comparison to the same period a year ago, unless stated otherwise. Diluted net income per share was $0.19 for the quarter or $0.03 above our high-end expectation due to higher-than-expected revenue and gross margin. Now let's review some of the key financial trends in this quarter's results, starting with revenue. Revenue of $345 million was $3 million above our high-end expectation due to additional revenue from Boeing. While Boeing revenue was higher than expected, it was lower than the same quarter a year ago. Excluding the impact of Boeing, total revenue would have increased 4%. Now let's discuss gross margin. Gross margin for the quarter of 27.4% was higher than expected and 120 basis points above Q4 last year. The increase over Q4 last year was the result of mix, pricing and lower workers' compensation expense. Boeing carries a lower gross margin than the blended company average and the decline in revenue resulted in a positive mix contribution. We continue to be selective in the customers that we serve and diligent in setting appropriate bill rates, contributing to our pricing success this quarter. We also continue to make great progress controlling our workers' compensation expense. 2012 was another record year for us in reducing accidents through continued improvement in our safety practices. Now let's discuss sales, general and administrative expense. Excluding the impact from Boeing, revenue increased by $15 million this quarter and the variable SG&A associated with this revenue drove the $2 million increase in SG&A. Compared to Q4 last year, SG&A as a…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] So your first question is from the line of Sara Gubins, Bank of America.

Sara Gubins

Analyst

I'm hoping we could get some more details on various segments in your core business that you saw in the fourth quarter or maybe headed into the first. So what you were seeing on manufacturing, I know that had gotten weaker last quarter, what you're seeing on green energy trends?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the manufacturing and a little bit of the wholesale retail business performed about like it did in Q3, which is just slightly negative, in the 2% to 3% range negative. That was really pretty consistent across all geographies and those various manufacturing and distribution accounts. And then the segments that grew happen to be in the construction area. And again, combined just enough to offset that drop in manufacturing, the construction rates are up 4% or 5%. And so combined, that [indiscernible] in our results. So it's not a wide variance either way.

Sara Gubins

Analyst

Okay, and then the green energy projects?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes. So we definitely finished the year strong on those and taking off in year '13 about like we did. We had a lot of growth last year in green energy, and it somewhat leveled towards the end of Q3 and throughout Q4, and we're forecasting that just to hold consistent during 2013 with last year, not providing a lot of growth, but there's plenty of projects in the pipeline to keep fueling that business for us.

Sara Gubins

Analyst

Okay. And then construction, could you talk about -- I know you mentioned that there was remodeling. Just some more details on kind of what you were seeing in residential versus nonresidential trends towards the end of the year and so far during the month of January? And then maybe what you're assuming for the 5% core business outlook for 2013?

Steven Cooper

Management

Okay, great. The construction has been really spotty. Throughout the year, we've seen a few head fakes where we've participated on some of the new housing starts, but hasn't held up. And then we've seen commercial remodels really take off from time to time. And so we haven't seen any consistent trend over a 2- or 3-quarter period in any of these areas. So it's hard for us to say -- well, what we saw in the last month of the year or this first month of the year is really going to drive a trend because this last 3 to 4 years, it's just been spotty all over the place when we see things take off. We are encouraged, though, by the number of housing starts and the building permits that are being issued. And we do have a couple pockets, namely Florida, that's performing really well in both commercial and residential. I think that's important to understand. As Florida recovers from this, they were hit the hardest and the longest and we are really excited about what we're seeing in Florida. We believe that will translate, I'm not sure in how many months, to some of the other states, in Arizona, Southern California and across other construction new housing states that we expected to boom. But I think we're on the front end of that, Sara.

Sara Gubins

Analyst

Great. And then just one quick one on the acquisition. Are the operational metrics similar to your core business in terms of revenue per branch, there are metrics that you were looking at?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, okay, thank you. That business looks a lot like our combined Labor Ready Spartan business. They participate in both, which is they're ready for on-demand jobs, but they also do really well on long-term staffing jobs. And so their blended gross margin is just slightly lower than our blended gross margin. However, their cost structure was that they did produce more per branch. Now our strategy is really to take that all 105 branches and just lever up from there. We're going to blend this into our current operations and as -- we're here within the next few minutes as we kick off with our employee teams, we're quite excited about the prospects of blending these teams and taking the power of selling and servicing together. The net result is our average branch volume is going to go up very -- a lot in these areas where we have combined operations because we're going to take that across the same counter. We're blending the teams, we're bringing those employees over, shutting down the occupancy costs of those 60 offices and then shutting down the occupancy costs and the headcount of corporate during this integration period. So I think it can be a really exciting acquisition for us. One of the better ones that we've done.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from Paul Ginocchio, Deutsche Bank.

Paul Ginocchio

Analyst

Just a question on -- can you give us what the revenue growth rate at MDT was, maybe for the last couple of quarters? If I missed that, I apologize. And then I got a couple of follow-ups.

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes. No, we didn't give that. They're a lot smaller than us, therefore, their geographies look different than our average. And if we gave those rates, they may not blend and look like our average. They're heavily weighted in Florida and they've been doing very well in Florida, just like we have been. They're really strong in disaster recovery and they participated really well with the Sandy clean-up a little bit more than we did. They were a little more prepared. We're excited about their disaster team that's joining us, and that'll increase our preparation. So they had a great fourth quarter, I'll tell you that. And it's translated into the first half of the year. They have a strong sales force and they have some specialties, #1, speaking this disaster recovery that we are really excited to blend our teams on.

Paul Ginocchio

Analyst

Great. And it looks like the Boeing revenue in the first quarter is a little bit higher than the rest of the year, is that what you're guiding to? Is that due to some of the issues that they're facing and some rework for the Dreamliner?

Derrek Gafford

Management

No. I wouldn't characterize it that way, Paul. What I would say is that we've -- in addition to some of the core work we've been doing with Boeing, we have some additional projects with them from time to time. We have a little bit of that work going on right now, but it doesn't have anything to do with the recent press in the -- with the Dreamliner.

Paul Ginocchio

Analyst

Great. And sort of 2 more on the core business organic revenue growth rate for 2013. I was just wondering how long you're willing to carry the PlaneTechs SG&A if you're not able to generate some sales. And you've got the same growth rates in the first quarter as the full year, is there any way -- you're not expecting any acceleration, I'm just wondering why you haven't factored in the acceleration over the year?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, I'll take that question on PlaneTechs. We've put a great group together there that has serviced not only Boeing, but what their core was, was servicing maintenance repair and overhaul business of the aircraft. And that which -- that part of the business, the MRO business, went through a lull during the recession as airliners grounded the aircraft they didn't need to be as repaired and actually, the ones they grounded were the ones that needed repairs. They didn't have to invest. So that business was hurt a bit during the recession, but it's recovered nicely. It's growing at a 20% plus rate right now as airliners are calling on those aircraft that they had put on the ground and now they need to overhaul, and there's really -- they're getting up to close to maximum capacity with a pretty big backlog of servicing planes. So we're excited about that business. And we're using some of these recruiters to recruit into those roles. But more importantly, there's a couple of strategic areas at PlaneTechs that we're working on. One is military, and we've put a great sales team together and that did raise the SG&A there by quite a bit as we put some key people together. We actually brought in some officers that have served in the military and retired and people that know that business really well over the last 12 to 18 months. And we're not going to take that cost down too fast, Paul, because those relationships are building. We're winning some accounts and we really believe that when that ball gets rolling, it's going to be a big one for us. So don't count on any reduction there in the next 12 to 18 months, at PlaneTechs. We have some great, great things happening. We've also been investing in ground transportation of mechanics and that business is growing nicely too. So we're going to hang in there. We have a lot of confidence in that team that has performed very well for us in the past, and that will do so in the future also.

Paul Ginocchio

Analyst

If I can just ask, how much of the -- how much does PlaneTechs add of that 5% core growth you're looking for in 2013?

Derrek Gafford

Management

Well, let me handle your question as you first asked, Paul. I think that was a pretty good question. So I'll repeat it for everyone's benefit here. I think the question was, we -- excluding Boeing out in our -- out of our organic business where we're forecasting a growth rate of about 5% for Q1. And in the slide deck that we've laid out, we put some of the information out there for the full year in that regard to our business and also showing a 5% growth rate there. So just to keep things simple, we have just -- we've left out [indiscernible] and really, the intent of that slide at the end of our deck is to just provide more transparency in all of these moving parts. It's not to put or try to apply a certain level of precision in our revenue forecast for the year, but I think 5% is a reasonable rate. There are other things that could cause it to be greater than that like construction picking up. So I would say to anyone, feel free to use a high rate if you like.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Jeff Silber, BMO Capital Markets.

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst

Derrek, in the past 2 quarters, you've been kind enough to give us a breakdown of your business by end market. I'm wondering if we could do it, though, on a pro forma basis with MDT, what the business looks like now.

Derrek Gafford

Management

Yes. I could give you a breakdown of how we stand right now. Pro forma with MDT, I'm not prepared to be able to do that. We just have not matched all history between the 2 entities to that level.

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst

I'll take whatever you have.

Derrek Gafford

Management

Okay. So let me give -- I'll give it to you by -- as it stands right now. However, I don't expect there should be a significant difference from our breakdown on how Labor Ready and Spartan breaks down, but here's where we stand right now as of the end of 2012 on a TTM basis. So mix-wise, residential and commercial construction combined is about 20%. Our industrial practice, which includes energy, is about 10% of our mix. Manufacturing, about 20%; transportation, about 10%; wholesale, about 10%; retail, about 5%; aviation, so that's most -- that's all PlaneTechs, about 10%; and services and other, it's right between 10% and 15%, so whatever you need to do to balance it out to 100%.

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst

Okay, great, that's very helpful. Another thing that's been talking about is the potential impact of ObamaCare that small companies might use temporary staffing firms to stay under that 50 full-time employee threshold. One, I'm just wondering if you can give us a rough average client size, how many employees your typical client have. And two, have you heard this from any of your customers?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, thanks, Jeff. We've been working on this for almost 3 years with Washington, D.C. and we've been very involved, both with the American Staff Association and with our own lobbyist to impact that bill to a way that would help the staffing industry and make it good for us. So we feel like we're on top of this and where it's going. The interesting part is now that we're in 2013 and getting close to implementation, questions like yours are coming up, not just what is the bill going to do and how is it going to be absorbed and what is the cost impact. And we are getting excited here about the view of one, trying to just control this legislation to a point where it didn't put staffing businesses in harm's way, if you will, that it didn't make us go backwards. And I think we did that as an industry. And now the excitement is -- how can we serve? How can we help customers work through this? And how can we be there? So your question is spot on, Jeff, of where we're going as an industry and where we're going as a company, and the questions we're answering. I don't have a breakdown for you on our customer size, employee count. That's a stat that we haven't collected and worked on, but it's a good one for us to pay attention to now with this legislation. What we have done is we've looked at situations where -- how long they're using our people and how that might impact the future, how many of those will now qualify for health care and how we'll help them get that and find access to it either through our own plans or going to the exchange. And we're…

Jeffrey Silber

Analyst

All right. If I could sneak in one more. You had mentioned that MDT benefited from the Sandy cleanup. I'm just wondering if your own business did and if there's any expectation for that to continue in the current quarter.

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes. We didn't get a net benefit. Boy, did that cause some destruction and put some of our good customers down for some time. The lost revenue that we had with those customers was made up with other customers of cleanup. But net-net, we grew slightly, but not enough to really, say, it changed the quarter results. The initial cleanup that people call on, on-demand to go out and do that initial cleanup, that's settled at this point in time. However, there's a long-term rebuild and our teams are focused on now building relationships with those contractors that will have that long-term rebuild taking place. And we have great -- good people in place, and moving forward. Now, over to MDT. They got a little larger chunk of the cleanup. First, they're not as large as we were. They moved the disaster team in and they got on top of it fast, where we were looking at our current customers first, seeing how we can help them. MDT was able to attack it with their disaster team and serve a different customer base. We're quite proud of the work that MDT did and they -- it's settling a bit, but they're still doing some cleanup. So I think the combination of both who we are in that area and with MDT, we're a superpower now that can do both.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question is from the line of Mark Marcon, R.W. Baird.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Wondering if you can give us a little bit of an update with regards to how the retail initiative went during the fourth quarter?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes. It didn't spring the business strongly. We had done really well in the fourth quarter of 2011, so we had some big numbers on the retail side to pick up. One of the large customers that we serve in that category is Wal-Mart. And we about -- we matched to the business of 2011. There was a large pickup there, though, in 2011. Wal-Mart got a little creative this year in how they staffed to bring help and allowing the family members to bring in people on a temporary basis and they got a little more creative on how they were going to go about that, not seeing it our hurt our business, but it did hold back another forward movement there. As far as serving other retailers, it wasn't a great season on retail for us. It didn't go backwards, but we surely didn't go forward. I don't know if that was economy driven or we were focused on -- a lot of that retail business comes out of the northeast by the way, whether we were focused on Sandy or Sandy hurt us, but all mixed together market, it wasn't a positive nor was it a huge drain either.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Okay. And what are you thinking about for next year? What can you do a little bit better? What didn't work? Because I was under the impression that you were going to expand what you did with Wal-Mart to a bunch of other retailers?

Steven Cooper

Management

Well, I think that's a good expectation. We're working on that. We have to build those teams up because we have one great relationship there with Wal-Mart. We have a few others in that category. But I think you're still spot on. We believe in that category and we've learned how to serve one and we need to learn how to serve more. So I think that there's more to come still on that market. It wasn't the punch we wanted in Q4, but we're still working it.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Okay. And then in terms of the alternative energy, it sounds like that's about 10% of the business at this point, is that right?

Steven Cooper

Management

That's right.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Okay. And that's -- you're pretty comfortable that, that's plateaued, but not going to fall off?

Steven Cooper

Management

Well, I don't think it is plateaued. The energy business is growing. And I know there's some mixed comments out there about what's going on with solar and is it going to be sustainable or not, but we believe it is. And even if that's not, there's a lot of other energy work going on in the mid-states and now in Canada, and we have teams that are focused on that. So I think our energy business is just getting started. I don't think it's plateaued. Now I can't tell you what the boom will be in '13. I'm just saying strategically, on a long-term basis, we're continuing to invest in teams that know how to serve the energy business.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Great. And then can you give us an update with regards to the beta test in terms of the mobile technology? You were -- you mentioned that you were rolling that out in January. I know it's early, but can you give us a little bit of a feel for how that's going?

Derrek Gafford

Management

Yes. Thanks for the question, Mark. Yes, it's the piece that we are the most excited about. I'd say, from a big picture perspective, the mobile technology is on track. It's about where we expect it to be. Feedback from our temporary associates that are involved with it, they are extremely excited about it. Our branch staff, as they get to understand the power of it, have really embraced it. So I think we're directionally on track on having this rolled out on a widespread basis amongst our blade-ready operations for the back half of this year like originally planned.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

And the fulfillment is going well in terms of being able to get the right people at the right spots?

Steven Cooper

Management

Mark, right now, yes. We are investing right now on front-end recruiting solutions. Because most of that texting that's going on and the success that we're seeing, it's happening with people that we've already recruited through our front-end office. And so yes, the fill rates are high, those workers are excited, and where we're shifting our focus now is in the area of -- well, if we didn't have 5 branches in the market, and we go down to 3 or 2, how will we interface with those that need to come into the mobile territory. So I really can't answer that question about what about new workers that are coming into the system that weren't recruited through a branch. We've got processes in play and that's what's being tested now. So that's why we're being a bit cautious and waiting until the tail end of the year to know the true impact that we can close these offices for -- we've got to bring the pool of workers in the front door somehow, still.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then with regards to MDT, can you just give us a sense for -- I know there was a question about last couple of quarters, but can you give us a sense for just over the last 2 years, what the growth rate has been for them?

Derrek Gafford

Management

Yes, I think if we take out any spikes of business around special events, it's been a healthy high single-digit to teen type of growth rate.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

And that's been fairly consistent over the 2 years? In other words, it didn't spike up in 2011 and then slowed down as 2012 evolved?

Derrek Gafford

Management

It's been pretty consistent. I would say that it's -- most companies have followed that trajectory that you just mentioned between the 2 years. I would say...

Mark Marcon

Analyst

The reason why I brought it up.

Derrek Gafford

Management

Yes. I would that there has been less so at MDT and they introduced, at the beginning of this year, a different approach to sales and how they structure and organize that in the branches, which, by the way, we really like and I think there's some opportunity for us to use on our side from a best practice perspective. But I think that, that has certainly made a difference in their performance this year -- or during 2012.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Okay. And is any of the management sticking? Or how should we think about the commitment of the founders?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, so the founder of MDT is not going to stay on with us. He's going to help us transition, though, and he's committed through a certain period of time. Both one to help transition out the corporate support services, but most importantly, those key relationships that he has. We have 3 key executives that reported to him and they're all joining us. The field and sales-level executives. The back-office executives will be transitioned out, the CFO, the CIO, the Head of HR, the Head of Administration and that entire team that supports the business as we transition that over to our support center over the next 60 days. So we're excited about the customer-facing employees, and these 3 executives that we brought on are taking on key roles at TrueBlue.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Great. And then with regards to their locations, so they -- you're going to integrate about 60 of them out of the 115 that they have or 105?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, yes. So more than half will be integrated. They're competing for the same worker and competing for the same customer. However, I did mention, when we look at these customer bases, it's mostly new customers for TrueBlue now. So we're not -- that's one of the reasons we stepped into this quickly, and made the decision to bring all those employees over. We have a lot of locations that are competing for the same worker, they're on the same street, they're within a mile with each other and it just makes too much sense to -- we have to combine those teams as fast as possible. Yes, it's nice for the cost savings. But most importantly, we can't have them compete with each other out there for the workforce.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Yes. And how do you combine those? I mean, are you going to combine them primarily into Labor Ready or Spartan branches? Because it sounded like a service both kinds of work out of the same office, if I heard you right?

Steven Cooper

Management

Right. Most of the -- or all of their on-site business will be transitioned into Spartan and a little bit of the other. But most of this retail business is going to be transitioned to the Labor Ready because the footprint is larger and it just makes more sense. We're in the locations they're in. Spartan is not in the same locations where Labor Ready and MDT are located. So they're more centralized, they're in the office park, they're in a different place. So yes, the bulk of the consolidation is going to happen at the Labor Ready branches. So it's not all Labor Ready branches, it's not all MDT. It's -- we're taking the best real estate, the best location that combine in there. We're also doing the same thing with the employees. We're giving both sides a chance to say who's going to lead that market? And that process is going on over the next 2 weeks. And in the meantime, we're just running the MDT brand and we're going hard on that and encourage them to stay forward and pushing forward on all they're serving, while we're making these decisions of who's going to run what market. It's going to happen fast and we're engaging those employees quickly. It's only been going on for just -- it's just happening as we're speaking and we're hearing good results back. Last night, we on-boarded a lot of the leaders and we heard great, great feedback and excitement about it. Mostly focused on the customers, by the away. Great, this is good for our customer because they wanted us in more locations than we're currently in. Wow, now we have fire power behind this. We have the ability to grow and access better insurance plans, all of the things that growth takes that holds a smaller company back. They've got some key employees that are really thrilled with that opportunity now.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Great. And what's your average bill rate?

Derrek Gafford

Management

It's pretty close to ours. Yes, we're competing for the same customer, the same worker. So as we blend those together, I think you're going to see it's not going to impact our blended rate.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

So kind of in the $10 to $12 range?

Steven Cooper

Management

No. It's higher than that.

Derrek Gafford

Management

Yes, our average bill rate, that Labor Ready runs about $15 and the Spartan is not far from that. They would be in this general range.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Okay; and how does that work with their affiliate locations, what's -- what are those?

Steven Cooper

Management

What are you speaking to there?

Mark Marcon

Analyst

I'm just looking at their website, and they've got 105 offices and 3,500 affiliate locations.

Steven Cooper

Management

Okay. Yes. So their founder runs a matching service where if they can't fill the order, then the affiliate service will. We're not going to need that because we're nationwide. We're in every state. We are in every market. They were primarily in the Southeast when they had customers that they needed to fill orders in California or out west or up midwest, even northeast. They had to dish those orders out. And we're not going to do that.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Okay. And what are the receivables that you're bringing on?

Derrek Gafford

Management

Approximately $30 million.

Steven Cooper

Management

We had a great working capital base with this business. It's a rate that we paid, so it's going to sustain itself and we're all excited about that.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Why did it sell for the price that it did, just out of curiosity? It seems like an attractive purchase price.

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, that's a better way to put it, Mark. It's an attractive purchase price. Thank you. We're happy with this deal and the founder of this business was only in the business 2 years. This business was bought 2 years ago from another founder and this turnaround leader was able to clean the business up, make it sharp, get it customer focused and they needed capital to grow. And so it was the time for him to say, "Great, I've earned my keep here. I've done what I've done. I've produced a great team and got this thing going on the right direction," and that's where we come to play is -- our ability to grow this business and take these employees further and give more opportunity was very, very apparent to all. So it's a great match.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

Great. And the workers' comp profile and how they manage that, how was that?

Steven Cooper

Management

It's pretty similar to ours.

Mark Marcon

Analyst

They're self-insured?

Derrek Gafford

Management

They're self-insured to a lower degree than we are. The balance sheet there isn't quite what we have to be able to absorb a higher deductible. But I would say that the general structure, the general approach to safety is similar to ours. We do think there are certainly some improvements that we can make moving forward, but from a culture perspective and approach to business, I would say, we're in the same ballpark on most items.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Randy Reece, Avondale Partners.

Randle Reece

Analyst

Was the energy construction business 10% of revenue in the fourth quarter or was it higher than that?

Derrek Gafford

Management

Well, I don't have the breakout, but I could give you the number and you could run it, Randy. The energy was approximately $30 million in Q4. So it's not quite to that level.

Randle Reece

Analyst

It was kind of sequentially flat?

Derrek Gafford

Management

That's about right. I mean that's pretty close to the TTM average of [indiscernible]. It's close.

Randle Reece

Analyst

So it's pretty much sequentially flat, which is pretty good given seasonality, I guess?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, that's kind of what we're talking about is -- during 2012, it was ramping and ramping and we hit mid-third quarter and it somewhat stabilized. So the stabilization in Q4 is right on point.

Randle Reece

Analyst

Okay. With the MDT acquisition, for years, you've been consolidating branches in Labor Ready, and it felt like you had too much footprint and now you're buying more offices and doing more consolidation, but you're going to add a lot more offices. I'm wondering how you -- what led you to seek buying another company in that area, and what you see as -- what you gain from the deal?

Steven Cooper

Management

Well, that's a great question and that's an easy answer. We're gaining 300 field-level employees, 8,000 customers and the ability to go serve those 8,000 customers nationwide now. And we can consolidate most of those offices that we did it in. And we pick up 40 new markets that we weren't in and then we've got some additional resource specialized customers that we need to stay with those 40 markets. And so it's not a large branch count for the size of the revenue that we're bringing on. And we're really excited to synergize this with our national footprint and see where we can take this with those 8,000 customers.

Randle Reece

Analyst

In the past, you've given annual revenue by brand, do you have those numbers?

Derrek Gafford

Management

Yes, you refer to last year, what the annual revenue was?

Randle Reece

Analyst

Well, you gave them last year. Do you have them for 2012?

Derrek Gafford

Management

Yes, I do. Labor Ready, about $835 million; Spartan, about $140 million; CLP, about $230 million; PlaneTechs, about $130 million; Centerline, about $60 million.

Randle Reece

Analyst

Okay, very good. It's seems like a phenomenon just across the industry that the business is done increasingly online and mobile really fits in with your customer base. How are you going to kind of inch out in these markets and prove out to yourself that you can pull in people to fill orders in a timely fashion with a completely different delivery and monitoring model?

Steven Cooper

Management

Well, we're doing that through pilot testing to ensure that assumption that you've just stated is true, and we're finding it to be true. And -- but we have to give it some time to make sure that it holds up under all conditions. So the 2 fundamental things, one, we communicate job openings through texting. They communicate back whether they're available. We communicate back to them through the job match and the instructions of where to go. And this isn't -- this is a computer communicating back with them, not a person on their little phone communicating back. This is very automated. So we put an order into the system and we blast out to the 5 people that are closest and most qualified for that -- to that job order and we're getting a match of greater than -- in that 5 to 1. So if we have 1 opening and we've blasted out 5, we're getting 2 or 3 responses fast, and we're able to make the best selection and move forward, and then as I mentioned, we pay them on a pay card at the end of the day. And so that has been proven out that it works. And now it's time to -- well, let's take it in -- take it further, and then let's see how it works with some consolidations. And let's really see if we can find new workers without these offices. So these are concepts, they're assumptions, they're theories, Randy. They're being proved out in smaller pilots, and we're expanding those as we go. So we can't bet the farm on this one, but we think we're on point.

Randle Reece

Analyst

You have to tend to the part of bringing people into your system, does that add a different kind of marketing than you have done before?

Steven Cooper

Management

Yes, definitely. We have not recruited in our on-demand business online. We haven't thrown out their webs to catch them and pull them in and let them do online applications. And that part of our business is now being tested also. Can we really rally up the workforce in an electronic fashion or do we still need to be in the neighborhoods to do the initial grab and then pull them into the electronic world. So we're testing both assumptions, Randy.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions. So I'd like to turn the call over to Steve Cooper for closing remarks.

Steven Cooper

Management

Well, thank you for being with us this morning. We appreciate your questions and the on-point comments that you've made here today. And we look forward to updating you at the end of our first quarter. Thank you and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Thank you for joining today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a good day.