Turtle Beach Corporation (TBCH) Q1 2025 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Greetings, and welcome to Turtle Beach Q1 '25 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Jacques Cornet, Investor Relations. Thank you, Mr. Cornet. You may begin.

Thank you, operator. On today's call, we'll be referring to the press release filed this afternoon that details the company's first quarter 2025 results, which is available on the Press Releases pages of the company's Investor Relations website corp.turtlebeach.com, where you'll also find the latest earnings presentation that supplements the information discussed on today's call. Finally, a recording of the call will be available on the Events and Presentations section of the company's Investor Relations website later today. Please be aware that some of the comments made during this call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Statements about the company's beliefs and expectations containing words such as may, will, could, believe, expect, anticipate and similar expressions constitute forward-looking statements. These statements involve risks and uncertainties regarding the company's operations and future results that could cause Turtle Beach Corporation's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. While the company believes that its expectations are based upon reasonable assumptions, numerous factors may affect actual results and may cause results to differ materially, so the company encourages you to review the safe harbor statements and risk factors contained in today's press release and in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including, without limitation, its annual report on Form 10-K and other periodic reports, which identify specific risk factors that also may cause actual results or events to differ materially from those described in our forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements after this conference call. The company also notes that on this call, it will be discussing non-GAAP financial information. The company is providing that information as a supplement to information prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States or GAAP. You can find a reconciliation of these metrics to the company's reported GAAP results in the reconciliation tables provided in today's earnings release and presentation. Hosting the call today are Cris Keirn, Chief Executive Officer; and Mark Weinswig, Chief Financial Officer. With that, I'll turn the call over to Cris. Cris?

Thanks, Jacques. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2025 earnings call. Our Q1 results and strong year-on-year growth reflect the focused execution of our entire organization in the face of external challenges. In the first quarter and going forward, we are realizing the combined benefits of our March 2024 acquisition of PDP and continued progress on our margin improvement initiatives. First quarter revenue grew by 14% year-over-year to $63.9 million and adjusted EBITDA increased to $4.1 million, up from $1.4 million a year ago. Our accretive M&A execution and expanded portfolio of next-generation gaming accessories have resulted in growth for both our revenue and profitability. Notably, we grew revenue despite a 16% year-over-year decline in the U.S. gaming accessories market in Q1 according to Circana, and our gross margins improved substantially by nearly 470 basis points year-on-year to 36.6%. Our continued improvements in business performance are driven by several key factors. First, this quarter included a full quarter of PDP contribution compared to just two weeks in the prior year. We also lowered our promotional spend as a percentage of revenue for the first quarter on the continued strength of our next-generation headset product introductions in 2024. This disciplined promotional approach has improved our profitability profile. Finally, those same next-generation models, including our top selling Stealth wireless headsets, our platform on the latest chipsets that provide significant performance and cost benefits over our previous generation of products. While our business performance for Q1 reflects the comprehensive improvements in our fundamentals, the broader economic environment has shifted significantly introducing some lack of visibility for the full year. The evolving external landscape, particularly the challenges posed by tariffs has added complexities that we must and will navigate successfully. We remain committed to addressing these challenges head on and we are confident we will manage through them with minimal long-term effects on our positive trajectory and growth. To start the year, we proactively increased our inventory levels in anticipation of possible tariffs which will provide near-term benefits to margins and has enabled us to accelerate our adjustments when tariffs were recently announced. With the quick and decisive actions of our team, less than 10% of our U.S. supply will be produced in China after Q1. For the rest of 2025, products for the U.S. market will be primarily produced in Vietnam. And within this dynamic environment, we are assessing further supply chain diversification. Our production capabilities in China are primarily dedicated to producing goods for non-U.S. shipments that are not impacted by the tariffs. As part of our comprehensive mitigation activities, we are also evaluating pricing across all our product lines and selectively making necessary adjustments. In addition to the tariff issues, it was noted last week that the Grand Theft Auto VI release has been moved out to the spring of 2026, which we expect will delay the anticipated increased demand for new accessories. However, even without the launch of GTA 6 in 2025, we project that market comps to 2024 will progressively improve throughout the year accelerated by growth drivers like the introduction of the Nintendo Switch 2 and a full slate of new games. Preorders on Switch 2 were widely reported to have sold out in hours, a proof point for the resiliency of gaming customers even in these economic conditions. While full year gaming accessories markets may remain down for 2025, we expect to return to robust growth in 2026 and beyond, fueled by the strong underlying fundamentals of a growing gamer base and expanding engagement with next-generation systems and game releases. With the expected benefit of ongoing demand for Switch 2 accessories, and a spring 2026 launch for GTA 6 and other exciting titles like Battlefield, we anticipate a return to growth for the gaming accessories space. To that end, we're focusing on the key growth drivers within our control. From a cost and OpEx perspective, we are mitigating the impacts these external changes will have on our business. While this is a dynamic situation, our updated guidance considers all of these known factors. Our focus remains on expanding our industry-leading gaming accessories portfolio to propel our success over the long run, and capitalize on industry growth drivers, including the upcoming launch of the Nintendo Switch 2. This past week, we announced new products set to roll out this spring, including a new wave of officially licensed Nintendo Switch headsets and controllers as well as new accessories designed specifically for Xbox. We remain dedicated to expanding our market leadership and enhancing value for our shareholders with sustainable growth and long-term success. Another demonstration of this commitment was our execution of the largest share repurchase program in our history over the last year, repurchasing nearly $30 million worth of stock. During the first quarter, we were limited in our ability to maintain the same pace we had over the past three quarters due to covenants on our debt. Mark will touch on this more. Share repurchases will continue to be a part of our capital allocation plans as they underscore our unwavering confidence in Turtle Beach's future and our dedication to returning capital to shareholders while making strategic investments to grow the company. As such, we've announced today that the company has authorized a new share repurchase program of up to $75 million over the next two years. Moving forward, we will maintain a sharp focus on capital allocation, ensuring that our financial strategies align with our goal of delivering sustained value and growth. Mark will now take us through the financials. Mark?

Thank you, Cris. Good afternoon, everyone. As Cris mentioned, our first quarter 2025 revenue was $63.9 million, up 14% from the prior year driven by a full quarter of revenue from the PDP acquisition, which closed on March 13, 2024. In addition to the strong revenue performance, we continue to drive efficiencies and operational improvements leading to gross margin expansion. Our gross margin for the first quarter improved by 470 basis points over the prior year to 36.6%. Operating expenses were $21.8 million or 34% of revenue compared to 42% in the prior year. We continue to focus on expanding our operating leverage. So as we grow in the future, we will generate higher levels of income. During the quarter, we realized a $3.4 million insurance recovery related to the inventory loss in transit from the fourth quarter, offsetting the prior quarter's loss. Our revenue growth, combined with cost efficiencies, resulted in a significant improvement in adjusted EBITDA over the prior year. Our first quarter of 2025 adjusted EBITDA of $4.1 million increased 180% from the prior year's adjusted EBITDA of $1.4 million, illustrating the strong operating leverage in our business model. Turning to our balance sheet. As of March 31, net debt was $43.6 million, comprised of $55.2 million of outstanding debt and $11.7 million of cash. The debt balance includes $6.6 million outstanding under our revolving credit line and $48.6 million outstanding on the term loan. In the first quarter, we made some investments in inventory, which will provide short-term benefits to our margins in the current environment. One highlight of this quarter was our strong cash flow generation. During the first quarter, our cash flow from operations grew by nearly 50% year-over-year to over $40 million. This was one of the highest cash flow generating quarters in the company's history and points to the strength of our business. Moving to our capital allocation activities. During the first quarter, we returned another $1.8 million to shareholders through our share repurchase program. Over the past year, the company has repurchased nearly $30 million in stock, the largest buyback in its history. In addition, as noted in today's release, we also announced a new stock repurchase authorization of up to $75 million over the next two years, marking another record for the company. Now turning to guidance. As Cris mentioned, the evolving landscape and macroeconomic environment requires a revision in our 2025 financial outlook. The range of outcomes is wider given the macroeconomic uncertainties. As a result, we are revising full year 2025 revenue to be in the range of $340 million to $360 million. We expect our full year 2025 adjusted EBITDA to now be in the range of $47 million to $53 million. Our updated outlook reflects the information as of today. The environment continues to be dynamic, which raises the possibility of additional market updates that could further impact our expected results. In terms of seasonality, it's important to note that we typically see the majority of our revenues in the second half of the year coinciding with the holiday season. We believe the second half of this year, we will see an even larger portion of revenues than prior years due to the anticipated launch of Nintendo Switch 2 and the current consumer environment. As such, we expect the second quarter to account for approximately 16% to 17% of full year revenues and for 2/3 of our full year revenue to occur in the second half of the year. Overall, we are happy with our performance in the first quarter. Our team's quick actions and strong execution has Turtle Beach well positioned to be successful within this dynamic environment. With that, I will turn the call back to Cris. Cris?

Thanks, Mark. As we discuss our outlook, we believe it is important to provide our shareholders with our best views of guidance based on all available data at this time. As such, we're providing updated guidance and reaffirming that our profitability profile and cash flow model remain robust, thanks to the transformation of the company over the past year and our rapid response to the recent tariff risks. We are energized by our Q1 results and our comprehensive strategy for continued innovation, execution and growth. While the macroeconomic environment remains challenging, our agile and proactive work so far puts us in a position with low exposure to China tariff risk. This may prove to be a competitive advantage and provide potential upside in a dynamic environment. As always, I'd like to recognize and thank our amazing team at Turtle Beach for their dedication and contributions to our success. We are eager to capitalize on the many opportunities that the gaming industry and our leading position in accessories will provide. With that, operator, we can open the call for Q&A.

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from the line of Anthony Stoss with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon, guys. A couple of questions. So maybe if you could help shed a little bit more light on the $50 million reduction in revenues. How much of that is kind of slated from the GTA 6 pushout versus tariffs and macro? And then, Mark, maybe you can comment on expectations for gross margins, maybe the June quarters and the remainder of the year. Thanks.

Hey, Tony. Thanks for the question and great to have you here. The revised guidance is really a function of our adjusted views on what the accessories markets are going to do for the full year. And there are several factors in there. GTA 6 is part of them, but it's really a combination of factors. Let me talk you through those a little bit. When we issued our initial guidance, we believed Q1 would be down kind of mid-single digits year-over-year from a market perspective in the U.S. And what we've seen is the broader accessories market is down 16% for Q1. And headsets and third-party controllers are actually down more than 20% through Q1. When we think about starting from that basis on Q1 going forward, remember, we guided prior to the tariffs hitting, prior to a lot of the consumer sentiment data that's come out and we think that, that -- those challenges have to be considered as we look at the full year. So that being said, we do think the market is going to improve as we go through the year from a comp perspective. And if you look at how the model is built, we think that Q2 comps will improve to being down sort of in the mid-teens year-over-year on accessories, and that's going to be driven by Nintendo Switch 2 launching in June. And then when you look at the back half of the year, Q3, Q4, we've got that modeled now of being down mid-single digits on a percentage basis versus up mid-single digits on a percentage basis year-over-year. So when you put all those quarters together, it puts the year down about 10% to 12% for the gaming accessories markets that we play in here in the U.S. And that's about a 15% difference from what we had planned of being up kind of mid -- low to mid-single digits from a market perspective in '25. So that's the driver in that $50 million, the set of drivers that are combining to make that. That being said, we feel great about 26%. And when you look ahead to what is happening in the gaming market, you're going to have the full effect of Switch 2. It will be rolling at that point. You're going to have games like Battlefield and GTA 6 coming in, in the spring of next year. So this isn't any kind of a long term, this is more of a delay in what that demand lift is going to look like, but it does impact '25, and that's why you see the adjustment in the numbers. And now I'll turn it over to Mark here for comments on the gross margin.

So gross margins in the first quarter were very strong. We came in at over 6% -- looking forward to the rest of the year, we put out our long-term financial targets saying that our goal is to be at mid- to high 30s. We still expect those levels. In the second quarter, there will be a little bit of pressure as we see lower revenue -- we do expect to see some impact from tariffs. In addition, there will be some onetime costs or some additional investments associated with the moves that we mentioned today. But one really important note is that we moved very, very quickly once everything happened on tariff day. And we have executed extremely well to put us in a great position to be able to recover on the margin side throughout the rest of this year.

Mark, does that put June at like 34%, 33%, 35%? What would you guys targeting?

Yeah. We should be down to the low 30s in the second quarter with us being able to build up from there through Q3 and Q4.

Got it. And then lastly, is the company taking any further cost controls or cost cuts given kind of the renewed look at 2025?

Yeah. We've been on executing on that strategy for some time now. We do think there's more opportunities. When we did the acquisition of PDP last year, we were able to recognize synergies above our original projections. And I really have to give credit to our team of really finding those opportunities to drive cost synergies. And as we look forward, it is a very dynamic environment with the transfers that we're making in our production. And we believe that there's going to be opportunities there as we make those moves to really find more reductions, and we factored that into our guidance, but we'll continue down that same path.

And two items to note, which is we do expect strong growth for 2026. So we want to make sure that we have the team and the investments there. And then second of all, in the second quarter, based on the actions that we've taken there will be a little bit of investment in Q2 as we finish up the plans to migrate some of the manufacturing and make sure that we're set up to be able to execute for the second half of the year.

Thank you, guys. Best of luck.

Thanks, Tony.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Sean McGowan with ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Hi, guys. Thanks. Yeah. I want to focus on a couple of things, too, on the guidance reduction. So some of these things that are affecting your outlook, I'm sure are not only out of your control, but like there's no way they're reversing. GTA 6 isn't coming back into this year. But the impact of tariffs and the related impact on consumer sentiment that could be fluid. So the question is, to what extent are you able to kind of recover with production and shipments, if there is a positive switch to some of those factors? Or at some point, you can't make it any more, but what kind of flexibility do you have to rebound if there's change?

Hi, Sean. Great question. And we are ready to go should that happen. We mentioned that we stocked up on some inventory. So we're in a very strong inventory position right now. If anything happens short term because at any day, there could be a tariff announcement that provides some relief. So we wanted to give you the color on our assumptions on the market being down 10% to 12% for accessories for the full year in the categories that we play. Because if it does improve, clearly, we'll be recovering some of that adjustment in the guidance. But at this point, without that visibility, we felt that we wanted to give you the assumptions behind the change. And then as we go through the year and we see those adjustments, we'd be ready to go. But as far as the supply demand increase coming in from markets improving, we would be completely ready to go for that should that occur.

Okay. That's helpful. And as you -- if you map out your planning, and I appreciate how difficult this is when any day, there could be a switch what is the tariff assumption for Vietnam that you are baking into your own projections at this point? Is it anything like what has been proposed? Or are you assuming something different?

Great question. It's exactly what we have today. So what's in the guidance are today's tariff conditions. And that includes what we're seeing in Taiwan right now and the exemptions that are in place in Taiwan right now. If that were to change, we stand ready with our mitigation plans ready to go. And we know exactly the actions we would take, should those decrease or increase. So that's one of those that once the tariff is concluded, I guess, the negotiations are concluded, we stand ready to go to make those adjustments.

Okay. You're not assuming the rate that was originally thrown out there in that voodoo math, you're assuming what's actually in place?

It's what we have today, that's correct. And when we look at the relative risk between Vietnam and China, we feel like we're in a strong position, taking that approach that we're executing to now. But if it were to go back up at a higher rate, we stand ready to go with our mitigation plans there.

Okay. That's helpful. One other question. Was PDP up during the quarter on a pro forma basis?

On a pro forma basis, they were pretty much along the lines of the market, right? So the market, as we mentioned, was down over 20% for those key categories. The PDP products we're playing in, particularly controllers, third-party controllers were down over 20%. They were right in line with the performance of the market.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Sean.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Martin Yang with Oppenheimer & Co. Please go ahead.

All right. Thank you for taking my question. Some of my questions regarding tariffs have been answered, so I ask about pricing. So does the current revised guidance imply any potential pricing adjustments throughout the year?

Hi, Martin. Thanks for the question. It does include the pricing adjustments that we've already gone out and communicated with our partners. So we took quick action on that, and there will be some pricing adjustments going into place to mitigate the tariffs that are currently in place. And that's why you don't see really from a margin standpoint and from an EBITDA perspective, it's pretty much in line with the revenue drop taking into consideration our fixed cost leverage. So there's no real changes from what we announced in our initial guidance to the impact of the tariffs for us. And that's a combination of the cost reduction activities that the team is taking in addition to these pricing adjustments. But those pricing adjustments are already in the guidance. If there is changes to the current tariff situation, we'll be taking additional actions on price to address those.

Got it. Can you share with us sort of the range of pricing adjustments you have communicated?

Yeah. It's really -- we hate raising prices. This is not a situation that we want to be in. But unfortunately, we're really left with no choice. It really varies category by category. And we look at it holistically. So there's not really a range I can give you. And it does vary -- there's some products where we're absorbing the entirety of the hit, and there's other products where we have to share some of that impact from the tariff. So it really varies by category.

Got it. Thank you. Another question on the supply chain. You talked about the swift transition to Vietnam, shipping to U.S. as potentially a competitive advantage. Can you broadly talk about what goes into your swift decision and execution and how others may not be able to do so?

Sure. Yeah. I can speak for Turtle Beach. We've been really tracking this for years. The first administration, we took many steps five or six years ago to diversify our supply chain, particularly the Vietnam. And as we saw the potential for tariffs coming last year, late last year, we started to put into place some additional purchases to make sure that we had a sufficient stock if we needed to bridge any transitions. So that turned out to be a very good decision and a great action by the team to do that. And then immediately when the sort of liberation day tariffs went into effect, we took the decision to then go ahead and action the mitigation plans that we had in place to shift those products and to move that production. And that's why really starting with the end of Q1, if you look at our go-forward purchases, it's less than 10% is coming from China for the U.S. this year. And I think I've seen some of the other numbers out there. I'm not sure anyone else is able to move that quickly. This is one great thing about our team here. It's not a -- we're a global team, but we're still a fairly small team and we can move very, very quickly and make those decisions and act on them. And I'm just so proud of what the team has been able to do here to put us in that position.

Thank you, Cris. That’s it for me.

Thanks, Martin.

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Next question comes from the line of Jack Vander Aarde with Maxim Group LLC. Please go ahead.

Hi. This is Jack Codera calling in for Jack Vander. Thanks for taking my questions. Can you guys provide any additional color on what you're expecting in terms of the scope of the onetime costs. And then I think you mentioned you guys have already transitioned. So if the number is correct, less than 10% of products are going to be produced in China. Can you give any color on that existing chunk? Is that chunk going to have any lasting impact on gross margin? Thank you.

Sure. Yeah. The one-time costs, there's some transition costs in there. We do have some tariff impact. As we mentioned in the call in Q1 or Q4 call is that there's several million dollars of tariff impact that we're continuing to carry. It's 150 basis points or so kind of hit there that you'll see in the numbers. So those are really the extent of those charges. And can you repeat the second part of your question, Jack?

Yeah. So I guess the remaining part of products that I don't know if you just haven't transitioned them out of China or you expect that they'll stay in there. Do you expect any lasting impact on gross margin from those products?

Sure. It depends on how the tariff situation plays out, obviously, but that's about 6% of our total purchases globally now is kind of what that works out to. So it's a very small portion of our portfolio, I don't anticipate that there would be any long-lasting impacts. If the tariffs were to remain there. Those are in categories that I believe competitively, there's going to be a lot of folks that are in that same boat. So no, I don't anticipate any long-term gross margin impacts from that remaining 10% -- or under 10% production in China for the U.S.

Okay. That's helpful. And then one more question. You mentioned kind of back half loaded seasonality. But given that we're already a bit through 2Q, do you have any view qualitatively how consumer dynamics are changing? Are they being more cautious? Are they buying to avoid increased costs? Any color there would be helpful.

Sure. Seasonality-wise, I do believe it's going to look more like last year. We started initially looking at the year prior to the tariff announcements, prior to what we've seen in Q1. We kind of looked at this as something that would be more like a 2019 pre-pandemic seasonality, but with some acceleration in the back half of the year. What we're seeing looks much more like last year. I do think we'll see some lift, and that's why we're saying we think the market is going to improve each quarter this year. Because of Switch 2 and what that's going to bring to gaming and the other game releases that are going to be coming out here this year. So that should continue to improve. But I think seasonality-wise, I would look to last year, and that's roughly what we're assuming we're going to see with some benefit in the back half. As far as consumer behavior we haven't really seen, as you can see from the Q1 numbers. We're not really seeing a lot of folks buying ahead. Those are before the tariff purchases, of course, or the tariff announcements, rather. And -- so when you look at April, we haven't really seen a lot of [indiscernible] behavior either from consumers or retailers sort of buying ahead of tariffs at this point.

Hey, that’s helpful. Thank you.

Thanks, Jack.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Sean McGowan with ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Hey, back. Yeah. so I wanted to talk a little bit about your comments regarding, I think you said taking some product in, kind of in anticipation of the tariffs or just the general comment you made about being ready to move quickly if there is a change in the outlook. How do I square that with the fact that your inventory is really not up that much year-over-year. And that's one of the ways we're able to generate so much cash, but is there inventory sitting with suppliers that's not on your books? Like, how can you have that flexibility if you don't have the inventory?

No. A key factor, Sean, it's a great point is that a lot of the inventory we had last year was directly after the PDP acquisition A lot of that inventory was a product that we're no longer selling. So it's -- there was some slow moving goods. Any time you do an acquisition like that, you end up clearing through a good portion of inventory that's not really a replenishment good, and we've done a lot of that work over the last year. So how we would characterize it is the inventory we have now is, by and large, highly replenishment-based inventory, and we don't have a lot of that slow moving really left with us. We've cleared a lot of that in the past year. So the quality of inventory we have at this point and the categories that we leaned into knowing what the situation might look like if we needed to move, that's where we've leaned into from an inventory purchases standpoint. So I would say that the product mix of that inventory is much more favorable for us at this point.

That makes a lot of sense. All right, Cris.

Thanks, Sean.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor over to Cris Keirn for closing comments.

Thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. We appreciate your interest in the company, and have a great day.

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