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Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the American Outdoor Brands Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Ms. Liz Sharp, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ma'am, please go ahead.

Elizabeth Sharp

Analyst

Thank you, and good afternoon. Our comments today may contain predictions, estimates and other forward-looking statements. Our use of words like anticipate, project, estimate, expect, intend, believe and other similar expressions is intended to identify those forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements also include statements regarding revenue; earnings per share; non-GAAP earnings per share; fully diluted share count and tax rate for future periods; our product development, focus, objectives, strategies and vision; our strategic evolution; our market share and market demand for our product; market and inventory conditions related to our products and in our industry in general; and growth opportunities and trends. Our forward-looking statements represent our current judgment about the future, and they are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Risk factors and other considerations that could cause our actual results to be materially different are described in our securities filings, including our Forms 8-K, 10-K and 10-Q. You can find those documents as well as a replay of this call on our website at aob.com. Today's call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of this time, and we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Our actual results could differ materially from our statements today. I have a few important items to note with regard to our comments on today's call. First, we reference certain non-GAAP financial measures on this call. Our non-GAAP results and guidance exclude goodwill impairment charges, the effects of tax reform as well as acquisition-related costs, including amortization, onetime transition costs, changes in contingent consideration liability, fair value inventory step-up and the tax effect related to all of those adjustments. The reconciliations of GAAP financial measures to non-GAAP financial measures, whether or not they are discussed on today's call, can be found in today's Form 8-K filing as well as today's earnings press release, which is posted on our website. Also, when we reference EPS, we are always referencing fully diluted EPS. For detailed information on our results, please refer to our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the period ending January, 31 2019, and our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended April 30, 2018. I will now turn the call over to James Debney, President and CEO of American Outdoor Brands.

P. Debney

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Thank you, Liz. Good afternoon and thanks, everyone, for joining us. With me on today's call is Jeff Buchanan, our Chief Financial Officer. Later in the call, Jeff will provide a recap of our financial performance as well as our updated guidance. We are pleased with our third quarter operational and financial results, which reflect year-over-year increases in revenue and operating profit. In addition, we launched several new products and made great progress on our new Logistics & Customer Services facility, an important strategic initiative in driving our long-term growth. With that, let me provide you with some detail on the quarter. Sales on our Outdoor Products & Accessories segment in Q3 declined 6.3% year-over-year. Within the segment, our Outdoor Products & Accessories division delivered third quarter year-over-year sales growth of 4.3%. That organic growth, however, was more than offset by declines in our Electro-Optics division, which was driven by ongoing weakness in market conditions. That said, the Outdoor Products & Accessories segment overall generated gross margins of over 47% and generated more than 24% of our total revenue in the quarter. Sales growth occurred in both our Hunting & Shooting product categories as well as our Cutlery & Tool product categories and came from a variety of retailers, particularly our online retailers. Based upon reduced long-range forecast in our Electro-Optics division, we have decided to restructure and combine that business into our Outdoor Products & Accessories division. This restructuring will allow us to improve operating efficiencies while continuing to deliver the innovation and quality that our Crimson Trace brand has earned under the leadership of Lane Tobiassen. In connection with the restructuring, I'm pleased to announce today that Lane has been promoted to President of our Firearms division, a role that I have occupied on an interim basis. With…

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Thanks, James. Revenue for the quarter was $162 million, an increase of 2.9% over the prior year. Revenue from our Firearms segment was $123.6 million, an increase of 5.1%, and revenue from our Outdoor Products & Accessories segment was $41.9 million, a decrease of 6.3% from the prior year. It should be noted that although the Electro-Optics division was down from the prior year, the Outdoor Products & Accessories division was up 4.3%. Total company gross margin for the quarter was 33.4% compared to 29.8% in the prior year. The Firearms gross margin was 29%, and the Outdoor products gross margin was 47.1%. I would note that the Outdoor Products & Accessories segment contributed 1/3 of the total gross margin of dollars, while the Firearms segment contributed 2/3. The total company gross margin increase was driven mainly by the Firearms segment, which had higher production volumes, favorable spending and lower promotional costs versus the prior year. Before I discuss operating expenses and net income, there are 2 things I want to note. First, as James mentioned, we had a partial impairment writeoff in Q3 associated with the restructuring of the Electro-Optics business. Specifically, we conducted a required goodwill impairment analysis in that business as a result of the revised revenue forecast and wrote off $10.4 million of the $54 million of total goodwill related to that business. Second, as I have noted before, the ramp-up of the new logistics facility is generating some duplicate expense in the short term as planned. However, in the long run, the new facility will improve our long-term operating costs, bringing all of our brands together under one roof and allow us to present one face to the customer, making it easier for them to do business with us. So taking that into account, GAAP…

P. Debney

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Thanks, Jeff. With that, operator, please open up the call for questions from our analysts.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Cai Von Rumohr with Cowen and Company.

Cai Von Rumohr

Analyst · Cowen and Company

So you took an impairment on the Electro-Optics, and yet -- I mean, I don't sense that your Firearm sales were a disappointment. And given that Electro-Optics is related to Firearms, how come the sales missed or you brought the estimate down?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Cowen and Company

It's based -- so the impairment is based on a couple of model methods. One is discounted cash flow. And it's more than just what's happening in quarter 4. It's what -- it's the long-range forecast. And it's also judged about how the forecast looks against how the forecast was when you originally did the acquisition. Q3, Crimson Trace did have quite a down quarter, which again, I think is entirely related -- it's industry related and not Crimson Trace related. So taking into account the long-range forecast as compared to our original forecast when we acquired it and doing the impairment analysis in conjunction with the restructuring, we ended up taking an impairment of about 20% of the goodwill associated with the acquisition.

Cai Von Rumohr

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Right. I mean, so therefore, we should assume, since the time of the acquisition your longer-term sales forecast for Firearms also is somewhat softer?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Well, since the acquisition, I mean, I think we -- the acquisition, that was back in 2015, and I think that, indeed, our Firearms sales have gotten softer over that period of time. And yes, we've -- so we took down the year 2018, 2019.

P. Debney

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Yes, it's a very different market environment, Cai, to what we were experiencing there.

Cai Von Rumohr

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Right, right. I forgot it was that far back. What -- so you'd mentioned the duplicative costs of the new facility. How much were they in the third quarter approximately? And where should they be in the fourth quarter? When do they peak? When do they kind of go away? Give us some color on that if you could.

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Well, we haven't given any color on the actual dollar amount of the costs, but I can talk about the peaking. I think the peaking is more in Q4 and Q1 of next year. Where we're really going to see the benefit is as soon as we can integrate our Jacksonville facility, which will be -- it's a fully functional warehouse with all kinds of shipping, receiving, accounting, et cetera. And once that is brought in, which is scheduled for sort of toward -- mid- towards the later end of the calendar year, like summer-fall-type thing, then you're really going to see some -- the cost savings of that will offset any of the costs of the logistics center.

Cai Von Rumohr

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Okay. And my last one is, on your prior call, you'd mentioned that you were testing the IT system and testing the material handling system. Given that you started to run the product through, I assume those tests went smoothly.

P. Debney

Analyst · Cowen and Company

Yes, that's correct. Very smoothly. In fact, the team's done a wonderful job. I really do have to praise them, and I'm happy to do that very publicly. There's a large number of people in our business involved in executing this strategic initiative, and I have to say they're pretty much flawless right now in that execution.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of James Hardiman with Wedbush.

James Hardiman

Analyst · James Hardiman with Wedbush

So I thought the answer to the last question was helpful. You talked about how your Firearms assumptions are down certainly since 2015. That shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. I guess, my question would be have they come down since December? I guess, specifically in the context of full year guidance is unchanged, better-than-expected results in the third quarter, with the implication being 4Q is going to be modestly worse than you previously thought. So maybe help me connect those dots. And what, if anything, does that say sort of beyond the fourth quarter, which obviously ends pretty soon?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · James Hardiman with Wedbush

Right. Okay. So with respect to your first question, which was sort of relating the impairment and Firearms being down since December. There's not a lot of change. At the revenue level, we sort of barely beat like the midpoint, and we're just not changing the full year. So like you said, there's maybe modest change of Q4, but really, the changes between Q3 and Q4, on all the bottom line about -- so we had a beat in Q3 of about $0.05 against the midpoint. So that $0.05 is broken down as being $0.03 is really associated with movement between the quarter. So a little better in Q3 than we thought. The mix is getting to the lower end of the price point in Q4. You just saw the February NICS results, I think much worse than most people expected. There's just a lot of bargain hunting in the market, so the lower end on products, which typically have a lower gross margin. And so that's where the gross margin and the dollars are kind of moving between Q3 and Q4. The other $0.02 is associated with the bankruptcy of one of our distributors, Acusport, which keeps up with what we think are frivolous claims that we are willing to fight. But it does cost money to fight that, and we're willing to do that. And so there's a couple pennies of that in Q4. Other than that, I would say that the year is kind of proceeding mostly as expected, but again, I think the market is -- the firearms market is pretty soft.

James Hardiman

Analyst · James Hardiman with Wedbush

Sure. And then, I guess my second question -- I guess, the million-dollar question here, I mean fiscal '19 has been a year, will continue to be a year where you're going to be able to grow both the top line and the bottom line despite a really weak end market, in large part because you're comping over weak gross margin numbers, weak ASP numbers. I guess, when does that tailwind run out? And ultimately, if things don't get meaningfully better in fiscal '20, where, if anywhere, would the growth come from?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · James Hardiman with Wedbush

Well, I think that we believe that we have excellent growth prospects in the Outdoor Products & Accessories market. There's just a lot of good things happening there that we've -- actually, James went through a lot of that last quarter and that is really unchanged. The firearms market, I think -- I agree with you that we've managed to weather a fairly weak market through, I think, a lot of innovative promotional activity that is desirable for consumers, yet not overly costly for us. These bundle programs that we started last summer, about 9 months ago and have continued, are really -- I think, one of the things that has helped us continue to sort of meet expectations in a weak market.

P. Debney

Analyst · James Hardiman with Wedbush

Yes. And going back, just to emphasize what Jeff was saying, that the growth really is going to come from the Outdoor Products & Accessories division. We're closer on the DC now, so we're really ramping that facility. Consolidating everything under one roof is going to be extremely beneficial for us. And once we've completed that process, then we can start looking again at inorganic growth. And we will be able to rapidly integrate what we've always called tuck-in acquisitions. And being able to harvest those synergies so quickly will also make us competitive in any process we decide to enter and complete. So we're very excited about that dimension of our overall strategy when it comes to our facility in Missouri.

James Hardiman

Analyst · James Hardiman with Wedbush

Great. And then if I could just sneak in one last question. The write-down that you had in the third quarter, sometimes companies have one write-down, and that's the beginning of sort of a waterfall from there. What degree of confidence do you have that this is it? And how close are we to sort of incremental write-downs as we move forward?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · James Hardiman with Wedbush

Well, it's hard to specify confidence or not in future actions, but I can -- I tell you this. Crimson Trace is being rolled into Outdoor Products & Accessories, where it used to be called Battenfeld. So it will no longer be judged on its own. It's now going to be judged along with the entire segment of Outdoor Products & Accessories. Before, because it was a standalone operation, it was judged on a standalone basis. So there won't be anymore -- if we have an impairment, if we happen to have an impairment, it won't be because of Crimson Trace. It will be, "Well, this is occurring in Outdoor Products." And there's -- when your goodwill is lumped together with lots of other things, including acquisitions that are performing very well like our cutlery acquisitions, including what was called the Taylor Knives and Bubba, then that means you just look at the overall impairment, you don't look at individual impairment.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Scott Stember with CL King.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with CL King

Just dovetailing on James' inquiry into 2020. I know you're not giving guidance, but just from a higher level, once again, you guys are incurring a significant amount of costs related to the DC and the shift and running duplicate facilities. How much -- or can you just frame out the benefit to the bottom line that you'll potentially get next year just from eliminating those costs, assuming, let's say, by the middle of the year and next year, a lot of that is gone?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Scott Stember with CL King

Right. Well, I mean, right now, we have the facility -- the new facility. In the same town in Missouri, we have another facility that was in the original Battenfeld acquisition. They also have a couple of warehouse -- external warehouse facilities that are leased, external logistics provider. I mentioned Jacksonville as a completely standalone operation, which is basically UST. So I mean, there is -- we have another like logistics and warehouse -- actually, like 2 of them here in Massachusetts. I mean, all of that's going away. So there are -- there's a lot of cost savings. And then, of course, as I mentioned, a couple of years ago, the original -- or one of the paybacks on the logistics facility is a saving in state taxes because everything, for example, from Massachusetts is going to be shipped to Missouri, all the firearms, and then those will be shipped around the country. So the profit on that will mostly be contained to the Smith & Wesson organization and not in the logistics facility. Since the logistics facility is the one that will have the contact and the nexus with all the states, it'll will have a much lower profit. So where we expect to harvest synergies and cost savings in multiple areas, we also have a shared services organization now that allows us to have one accounting team, one HR team, et cetera. So it takes time. And then of course, the final synergy is not the current P&L. It's what James mentioned, it's the ability to do acquisitions and immediately integrate those acquisitions. And so you buy them on the EBITDA margin, but you earn them on the gross margin.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with CL King

Got it, that was helpful. Just looking the fourth quarter in a vacuum. If I'm just looking at the 2 quarters, obviously, we're looking for, I guess, on the high end, flattish sales. But if you look at the pretax income line, I guess, basing on what you think the tax rate will be year-over-year when you're looking like a 50% decline -- I know you talked about some elevated costs. I guess, the peak is coming, right, as far as the warehouse stuff that we talked about, the duplicative costs, but is that really what's driving that? Or is there something else on the gross margin side from a pricing standpoint or something else that we could just pin it on?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Scott Stember with CL King

I mean, if you're looking at the pretax non-GAAP like numbers, it's not a 50% decline, so I'm not sure what you're doing. Don't forget that on the GAAP numbers, because of the impairment didn't -- you couldn't -- you can't take a -- you can include that in as a deduction in taxable income. It artificially raises the rate -- tax rate in Q3. And that impairment hits the bottom line directly. If you just look on non-GAAP, it's certainly the -- what I've estimated. The pretax is -- it's in the same area.

Scott Stember

Analyst · Scott Stember with CL King

Okay. And last, James, maybe just talk about the industry. Obviously, we had, I guess, a little bit of a head fake in January. In February, things have come back down. Maybe just from a little bit of a high level, what do you think it takes to get the industry, I guess, to be moving forward again? I assume that the underlying conditions within shooting sports and all those other things haven't changed. But maybe give us your view on what we could expect. Or is it really just wait and see at this point?

P. Debney

Analyst · Scott Stember with CL King

Well, I think in the absence of any fear-based buying, you're going to see a very stable market. As I said in the prepared remarks, retailers, distributors are comfortable with our level of inventory now. I will add that most are very optimistic and are looking forward to the future, running their businesses well, managing their inventory and their cash well. So there's a lot of people, a lot of distributors and retailers who are in very, very strong position, so I think that's great for the industry overall. What will happen in the market, and we've all seen you look at history how volatile it can be, who knows in that respect. But I think the key takeaway right now is that it's stable, it's manageable, we can grow, we can make money.

Operator

Operator

We have a follow-up question from the line of Cai Von Rumohr with Cowen and Company.

Cai Von Rumohr

Analyst · Cai Von Rumohr with Cowen and Company

Yes. In light of the state's tax savings, what sort of a tax rate should we think about for the fourth quarter and for next year? What range of tax rates?

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Cai Von Rumohr with Cowen and Company

Well, for the fourth quarter, it should be about 28%. In the long run, assuming a very profitable business, because obviously, you have to have like profits in order to earn a tax benefit, it will probably come down a point or 2. I mean, may be 25 or 26. But that's probably not going to be impacted until the second half of fiscal year 2020.

Cai Von Rumohr

Analyst · Cai Von Rumohr with Cowen and Company

Got it. And then last one, CapEx, roughly -- I mean, it's a little lighter this year. Is it up, down, next year? Rough thoughts of the range, where it could be.

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · Cai Von Rumohr with Cowen and Company

I think next year -- so our non cent -- sorry, our non-logistics facility CapEx was $18 million to like $20 million. I don't think it will be much higher than that next year.

Operator

Operator

We have a follow-up question from the line of James Hardiman of Wedbush.

James Hardiman

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

Just a quick -- couple of quick follow-ups. So I just want to be clear, when you say in the absence of fear-based buying, it's likely to be a stable market. I guess, stable would feel like an improvement from here given what we saw in February, what we've really seen over the course of the last year. I guess, am I thinking about that the wrong way? And realistically, can we get back to flat pretty soon? I mean, obviously, February and March, you've got some really difficult comparisons.

P. Debney

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

Yes. I was about to say, James. It's not an apples-with-apples comp, right now because very -- it was very different buying behavior by the consumer occurring last year versus this year. So people shouldn't have been surprised that we were double-digit down in terms of adjusted NICS checks at all. Still, there was a sequential improvement from January to February. So normal seasonalities in play, that sequential improvement you could say is obviously weaker than in prior years. But if you look back into other years, pretty standard. That's really what -- I would use as much data as possible to give my best opinion. That's where my comment about stability comes from. The comps, as you said, they will not get easier until we get into June, until we get into summer. And then quickly, we'll be approaching the fall season, and we all know what happens then. And that's the true judge, I think, of the health of the market in the absence of any fear-based buying, which I hope that's what happens. We want a stable market environment.

Jeffrey Buchanan

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

If I would add also that the distributor inventory, in terms of units, has now been pretty stable for the last 5 to 6 quarters. So we got out of that at a period of time in which we're trying to work down that inventory. Now it's really stable at a dollar amount, which I think helps with forecast and expectations other than the give and take at the consumer market.

P. Debney

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

Yes. It gives us a much stronger connection to actually what's happening at the retail counter.

James Hardiman

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

Got it. And then the last one from me. You kind of touched on this, but ASPs were down in handguns. You had, had some nice tailwinds there previously. I think what you said is that was less about promotions and more about mix, but how should we think about ASPs going forward? It sounds like you're basically guiding to continued sort of negative mix. But I guess, are we starting to see promotions tick back up? Or how do we think about the other components of ASP going forward?

P. Debney

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

It really was -- as you think about handguns, it really was product mix, driven by promotional activity. So obviously, as we execute our promotional plans in the first part of the calendar year, first quarter of the calendar year, we're promoting across a broad section of our product portfolio. And there are some that resonated way more strongly with retailers than others, and that really drove the mix change somewhat low at those ASPs. And that's what we're seeing.

James Hardiman

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

And how about going forward, do you think that trend will continue?

P. Debney

Analyst · James Hardiman of Wedbush

Going forward, I mean, those -- as I said in the prepared remarks, we're in the latter stages now of that -- this promotional period, so it's going to end fairly soon. So as we get into the next fiscal year, that promotion has ended.

Operator

Operator

I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to James Debney for closing remarks.

P. Debney

Analyst · Cowen and Company

I want to thank everyone across the American Outdoor Brands team for their commitment and dedication to excellence. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Take care.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.