Jack A. Khattar
Analyst · David Amsellem of Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open
Yes, sure. Regarding the first question, David on the IP and the litigation, I mean that's moving forward on both products. Oxtellar XR is clearly ahead from a process point of view versus Trokendi XR. And on that one we are always and have been always confident about our IP and the strength and we continue to add more patents to our portfolio to protect both products. So we're very confident as far as the outcome or potential outcome of these courts [ph]. Clearly we can give people the certainty, 100% certainty of the outcome. But we continue to be very bullish about how the case is proceeding and so forth. As far as settlement itself we keep all options open. So we are open to all kind of options in these kinds of situations if they make sense obviously. So the answer is yes, all these options are on the table to do the right thing for us. The key thing I always like to remind people of is that our patents go all the way out to 2027, 2029 in certain cases. So these are not the cases where we are faced with expirations on patents in 2020 or 2019. And that certainly helps us and also the strength of the patents themselves are pretty good. And I've also mentioned and not that, that will have any implication on Oxtellar XR and Trokendi XR that we do have a very strong track record in navigating through these issues defending these kind of cases and actually in the fall of last year for the first time ever a pharmaceutical company actually won IPR challenges in our industry and the win was on three patents with three challenges. And that pharmaceutical company is Supernus. So we tend to be very good in this space, we know this space very well, we worked very, very hard in this area. We have a great track record in it. Again one success in one area doesn’t guarantee success in another product, because technologies differ, the patents differ, but it’s just another example to show you our expertise on this space and hopefully giving people more confidence and comfort that we will come out all right on both products in these cases. As far as the commercial strategy for SPN-810, clearly SPN-810 and 812, first of all they are very synergistic, both of them together and that was by design, even way back in 2005 and '06 when we were building the pipeline. So clearly it's the psychiatry space and having started the program in 810 in the ADHD space that gives us a tremendous synergy between 812 and A10. And to have an optimum sales force that to give you a good coverage it will certainly be bigger than the current sales force that we have in the neurology space. So it will probably in the 200 to 300, and it's a little bit of a shot in the dark at this point, but just to give you a range of what that sales force could look like. Clearly at that time, when we are launching these kinds of products we will also look at what our current sales force is at that time and the synergy between the two or overlap, potential overlap between the two maybe in the pediatric space. But when you look at the ADHD space and we have done it before many, many years ago and for several years at Shire, I mean we know somewhere in the 200 to 300 sales reps should be adequate for 810 and 812 together. And then I think the last question you had was on the pipeline in general and partnerships; overall on partnerships we have been in discussions and we are always open to discussions on partnerships on all our products, not just the pipeline but also Oxtellar XR and Trokendi XR outside the U.S. So those partnerships we are open on all our products. In the U.S., we certainly are open also and have had discussions before on partnerships for co-development, co-marketing in the psychiatry area, so that’s certainly is something we look at as well.