Austin Harkness
Management
Yeah, Justin. This is Austin. Just a couple of quick housekeeping notes, I want to make in reference to the CPG reference in your question. But then I get into the results and performance trends and kind of outlook going forward. As a reminder, as we've shared and as Karl alluded to in his prepared remarks, the divestiture of the West Texas business and the move to segment reporting where we moved Transmix out of fuel distribution into terminals was worth about a penny of reported CPG margins. That's just something to keep in mind going forward. And separately, as we've shared in the past, I think the way that we think about the business and certainly the way that we manage the business and maybe helpful lens to kind of interpret the results is really fuel profit versus volume or margin, which, you know, we really don't target a specific number or, you know, we're optimized around either one of those variables independently. Now that said, looking at results, the fourth quarter was a strong quarter. If we take a step back and look at 2024 overall, it tracks very closely with how we the and Karl mentioned in his prepared remarks, and we've shared in the past, there's going to be quarter-to-quarter variability in the business. Over a twelve-month period, it's going to consistently grow. Right? And when you look at 2024, that's exactly what happened. Right? So we had quarter-to-quarter variability. In fact, I think the harshest criticism maybe you could levy against our fourth quarter results is just the fact that they followed two consecutive record quarters in Q2 and Q3. Right? And so when you take the year as a whole, adjusted EBITDA for 2024 was up 5% year over year for the segment. And that's without the benefit of our West Texas business for close to eight months. So the underlying fundamentals are as strong as ever for our fuel distribution business. Regarding our outlook for 2025 and beyond, there's a couple of things I'd share. First, the macro environment continues to be constructive. Breakevens remain elevated, and we're seeing some signs of stabilization in demand for refined products based on the last couple of EIA prints. Looking at Sunoco specifically, we entered 2024 from a position of strength and momentum. And now with the NuStar acquisition under our belts, the business has never had a stronger foundation in terms of our asset base and scale. And so when you take that combined with our commercial teams and track record of execution, I mean, the business is really well-positioned for growth not just in 2025, but beyond.