Jeff DiModica
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please proceed
I am going to add. There were some other questions asked of us this morning and I do want to mention a few things. One, in our lending book about 2.5% of our lending book which is $8 billion-odd is in REIT. So of that, most of it is the American Dream asset, which we expect to be refied out later this year when the mall opens. That loan is like 50% LTV and recourse to the [indiscernible]. Overall that retail book and the lending book is 58% LTV and almost a 15% optimal IRR. So there's no hidden issues in the lending book on the retail side. The other thing I will preempt, a question that was asked of us this morning. And I said in my comments, we will take two gains. Well, one will be realized. The other one will be an appraisal. So you will see the gain. So you can measure whether we have actually achieved a $500 million-plus of gain, net of the retail assets that we invested in. We expect to sell one portfolio, I would say, latest fourth quarter of the year. The gain should largely offset, more than offset probably, the write-down we took this quarter in the retail assets. And we will refinance another portfolio. Jeff mentioned and I will re-mentioned it, the medical office portfolio that we own, which is performing very well. We expect to pull out nearly a $100 million of proceeds and raise the cash returns from around 10% to almost 12%, cash-on-cash. And there are steps in those leases going forward and it's very stable cash flow. So what the REIT has left in the equity book is a magnificent portfolio of 17,000 affordable apartments. And out of the $500 million gain, roughly 60% is coming from that portfolio, those two portfolios we bought, which we underwrote very modest rent increases and just recently received news that the rent increases will be double and four times what we underwrote. So we think we are being conservative on these marks. Now remember why we are in the equity assets. The stretch our duration and they have targeted cash-on-cash yields that are equivalent to our targeted IRRs in our loan book. So we bought assets including the malls, by the way, which we thought we can own forever and they generate ever higher returns. And the offset was, they do as we depreciate them to lower our book value even though they are appreciating. So for many reasons including improving our case, we will again take the gain in one of the portfolios later in the year. And one other note, just as an insight because us just making the deli sandwiches. We did buy, as you know, the Cabela's portfolio long time ago, not that long ago probably, about two years now, I would think, a little over two years. And we sold seven of the assets and we realized a 28% IRR, positive IRR selling them and raised our -- we bought them on a 7.7% cap and sold them in the 6.75% and booked a gain. And now the remaining assets are yielding something like 13% plus, 13.5%. So we are always buying and selling things. We wouldn't have done this write-down except nobody really knows where mall cap rates are. After we agreed to take this write-down internally, the Gardens Mall and PGA Boulevard in Palm Beach County is still below a 5% cap, we believe a 4.6% cap. But there have been very few trades of larger retail assets today. So you are not really sure where value is. These values that we are getting are significantly higher than a 4.6% cap, meaning being higher cap rates in the 6% and almost 7%. And we own the largest mall in that portfolio, The Wellington Mall which is not far from PGA and Gardens. But we are recognizing that these assets are hard to value that, in our case, we have a joint venture and a partnership structure that requires all four players to cooperate in additional capital investment in these assets. And there clearly has been more turnover of tenants than we underwrote and nationwide bankruptcies of in-line store chains. So we just want to move on and point out that it really is, we invested the cash, but we more than met our earnings numbers for the quarter, $0.52, without that write-down. And I mean we are pretty happy about the business overall. So with that, I guess, we will take any questions.