Jean-Marc Chery
Analyst · ODDO BHF. Please go ahead
Okay. So the situation for 2023, again, I would like to repeat, okay, what we have both in terms of data point, but also, okay, direct input, okay, from our customer as our relations are more and more close. On automotive, okay, I confirm that there is basically to trend. Overall, the production of light vehicle will be around, okay, 85 million vehicles this year should grow next year. But more important is the electrical battery-based vehicle. So this year, okay, should be around 7 million. And next year should be about 10 million. And you know that there is a factor of 4 to 5 in terms of semiconductor content. So clearly, here, okay, we confirm that, okay, both from a, let’s say, data point visibility we have in our backlog, but conversation with our customer the demand from – for electrical vehicles, so the transformation of electrification is calling for strong demand of semiconductor. And yes, okay, on thermal combustion engine, okay, it’s not a secret that here, maybe there is some softening of the market. But here, the content of semiconductor is still increasing. So there is some mitigation effect. So all in all, okay, we confirm that from our perspective, the semiconductor, automotive, let’s say, verticals, okay, will grow next year. about industrial, it’s basically quite similar path because, okay, discussing, okay, with our customer, and I guess you have seen this morning some announcement from big customer of ST. Infrastructure, the robotics automation after the lesson learned from COVID, but also shortage of workers and so on. Okay, how are – the demand is very strong. And the demand of semiconductor in automation, robotics, okay, power energy, infrastructure, renewable energy, a charging station for electrical car, all are calling for very, very important demand and here, same both data points, so means the backlog we have in our hand plus, let’s say, the discussion we have with customers are showing, let’s say, a very strong dynamic whatever is the geographies. Yes, on consumer industrial, okay, that I named during my speech, there is a softening of the demand. in terms of building, okay, home appliances, power tools. But power tools, it is clear, it’s power tool from retailers, so for the consumer. But if you take power tool for professional, the demand is still very strong. Why? Because it is increasing the productivity of the worker, but here, again, it’s not absolutely not similar than the pure consumer electronics Here, okay, we see market softening, but just at the level of what we can sell in terms of capacity. So all in all, that’s the reason why when we look at the data point, okay, provided by the various, let’s say, industrial analysts, it is clear that the sum of in terms of growth, both in 2022 and in 2023 is showing a much better picture than the term of semiconductor. Why? Because the term of semiconductor is heavily impacted by memory and microprocessor serving computer, personal computer, but also, okay, smartphone and personal electronics, and especially, okay, the smartphone, overall Android base. So that’s the reason why we do believe that with the data point we have from analysts, the customer view and the backlog. So I repeat, this is what I have said today, okay, when I put the search and operating plan, we are building for 2023 and the Q4 run rate we have, we have an overall backlog which represents depend product line, of course, between six to eight quarters of run rate. So at the end, this is, okay, making us very confident to drive the company next year on the trajectory of growth. And of course, okay, we will communicate, okay, the range of expected growth next year, okay, entering in the year in January, where we will disclose the CapEx to support it and the revenue and as Lorenzo said, the gross margin. So again, my takeaway is very simple. We have proven points – proven data point of solid market in automotive and industrial for the reason I have explained. Yes, okay, there is a market softening on consumer. However, coming back to your latest point, the revenue we extracted and the value we extracted through our partnership with our main customer, okay, has been great this year. That drives us on a very accurate way okay? The forecast provided to us entering in 2022, okay, versus the one we have today, okay, shift below 2%, okay, I don’t say plus/minus, but within a very, very accurate manner. And we have the visibility for next year. So again, overall, okay, we will drive the company on a growth trajectory.