Manny Hilario
Analyst · Piper Sandler. You may proceed with your question.
I think a couple of things. So, on the development side, it's what I'm seeing from an optimization perspective, if you will, is that particularly for F&B hotel operators, I'm seeing with the lower occupancy rates, they're less -- we -- less willing to take the risk on the F&B side. What I mean by that is that the last thing they want to do is take a business that already has low occupancy and potentially low RevPAR and throwing their high risk, if you will, restaurants or F&B operations and particularly, if there are a shop that uses lots of labor for F&B. so, I'm seeing a lot of people wanting to optimize their F&B footprint by bringing in people that can execute the F&B program at a very high economic or very -- or I would actually say very profitable economics for them, so I see optimization there. And then the other thing that we see on the optimizations, some of the hotels that we're in, because of the velocity and the fact that our restaurants are very full on Fridays and Saturdays, we become an amenity to the property where people would want to come to the hotel and stay overnight because it's so fun and exciting. I'm thinking, for instance, the W in LA is an example where we're at that hotel and we have, frankly, become as the hotel management, they will tell us, one of the key strengths of their business because we're actually super active and bring a lot of excitement there. In terms of Kona Grill growth relative to development, as I said earlier, we're being very, very careful about making sure that the first Kona Grill that we do is a super homerun. So, we've been very disciplined about the entry in real estate that we have received tremendous amounts of opportunities from existing landlords who now want us to look at other projects and see if there is an opportunity for Kona Grill. I have seen them starting to begin to offer much more TIs on the Kona Grill, so almost going to a point where they're telling you they could almost build a property for us. But frankly, right now, because of where we're at on the pipeline with STK, and there's so much demand there for that product, we are focusing on it. And obviously, we will only take any kind of look at a Kona Grill if it's an extraordinary level of economics. So, I don't know if that answers your question, but certainly tells you that there's a lot of demands and we certainly want to focus on where there is higher level of returns and we certainly don't want to take any opportunities that we feel are not high revenue opportunities.