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Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Sat, May 12, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the MDC Partners First Quarter Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Matt Chesler, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Finance. Please go ahead.

Matt Chesler

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. I’d like to thank you for taking the time to listen to the MDC Partners conference call for the first quarter of 2018. Joining me today from MDC are Scott Kauffman, Chairman and CEO; and David Doft, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin our prepared remarks, I’d like to remind you all that the following discussion contains forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial data. As we all know, forward-looking statements about the company are subject to uncertainties, referenced in the cautionary statement included in our earnings release and slide presentation, and are further detailed in the company’s Form 10-K and subsequent SEC filings. For your reference, we posted an investor presentation to our website. We also refer you to this afternoon’s press release and slide presentation for definitions, explanations and reconciliation of non-GAAP financial data. And now to start the call, I’d like to turn it over to our Chairman and CEO, Scott Kauffman.

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

Thank you, Matt, and good afternoon, everyone. The start of 2018 has been challenging. All the prospects for the business this year were strong coming into the year. Our performance in March and April has been disappointing. Separate from the impact of the adoption of the new accounting rules for revenue recognition, which has added some noise to our Q1 reported results, we’ve experienced a number of client cutbacks and spending delays over the past several weeks. In addition, while our new business pipeline continues to build, we’ve also seen a slower rate of conversion of our new business. And in some instances, budgets appear to be smaller than anticipated. Taken together with our 1% organic revenue growth in the first quarter, it’s no longer realistic to expect our agencies to generate the amount of revenue growth over the balance of the year required to hit our original target of approximately 4% organic growth. We’re, therefore, lowering our 2018 financial guidance, and David will provide more detail on our performance and our revised outlook in just a moment. Our results are unacceptable and we know that. So let me tell you what we’re doing about it to improve performance. Revenue generation, operating efficiency and unlocking value are our top priorities. Our revenue initiatives range from scaling our customer data platform, ramping up our centralized business development team to serve all of our partners and their agencies, positioning our portfolio to benefit from the large opportunity in health care, enhancing our digital product and design offering and continuing our successful expansion into new markets outside of North America. First, at the center, we’re investing in data analytics to amplify our agencies strategic value to clients. We’ve incubated Zero & One, a data intelligence platform and consultancy launched earlier this year. This…

David Doft

Analyst

Thank you, Scott, and good afternoon. As Scott indicated, we adopted the new revenue accounting standard ASC 606 on January 1, 2018, and accordingly changed certain aspects of our revenue recognition accounting policy. The adoption of the new accounting rule has a meaningful impact on our reported financials by shifting recognized revenue out of the seasonally smaller first quarter and into the second quarter and second half of this year. In addition, there was also a change in classification from principle to agent for some of our client relationships. This led to a reduction of third-party cost recognized in revenue with a corresponding reduction in direct cost and thus, no impact on profit. If you reconcile the new rules with the old rules, or in other words had we not adopted the new standard, our reported GAAP revenue would have been $348.2 million and our adjusted EBITDA would have been $13.9 million. Our organic revenue growth of 1% is unaffected by the accounting change, as our organic revenue growth is normalized for the change in the accounting standard. However, separate from ASC 606, there was also over $5 million of additional revenue that we could not recognize in time for the first quarter under either standard for work already completed. We expect to recognize most, if not all of this revenue in the second quarter, but we already booked the related expense in Q1 so it will drop right to the bottom line in Q2. Additionally, as previously indicated, included in first quarter results were one-time costs totaling $6 million related to incremental professional fees associated with the adoption of the new accounting rules, real estate consolidation, strategic initiatives and incremental severance, in addition to $700,000 of adjusted EBITDA that was in the first quarter of last year from LBN,…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Dan Salmon of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Caroline Rehfuss

Analyst

Hi, guys. This is Caroline, on for Dan. I was hoping you could expand on the reasons for the downgraded 2018 outlook and particularly, the margin outlook. I know it’s been several years since you issued a long-term target for ‘17 to ‘19, but is that target still in view? And if so, how has the time line changed?

David Doft

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Caroline. So as you can imagine when we have shortfalls of revenue, we look to address cost within those businesses, which sometimes has soft short-term impact for longer-term benefit to their cost structures. And part of that is what’s incorporated in the revenue and margin guidance for this year. Overall, we continue to believe that we have substantial room to improve margins based on continuing to optimize performance at our agencies. And ultimately, there are certain agencies in the portfolio where we need better performance out of them in order to reach those targets, and it’s tough to say how long that might take. We still think that, that prior range is achievable over the next few years, but it’s hard to put a specific target on it.

Caroline Rehfuss

Analyst

Okay. Helpful. Thank you.

David Doft

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Jaime Morris of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Jaime Morris

Analyst

Hi, thank you. I was hoping that you could try and help us understand what the assumption is for net new business in the current year. So I think, David, you mentioned that you make an assumption on that going into the year. Just trying to get an idea of what part of the revision comes from net new business that didn’t materialize versus cutbacks from existing clients?

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

Jaime, its Scott. A part of - if you look at the underperformance, the bulk of it came from our global integrated agencies, and these are our largest agencies that are oftentimes invited to the largest pitches. And our net new business projections are, in some part, assessed based on the robustness of the pipeline. We continue to see a very robust pipeline. As we’ve said before, a lot of accounts come into review. What we weren’t anticipating is the slowdown in the pitch process. And in some cases, even as we crossed the finish line, those budgets are not what had been initially anticipated. So we’re seeing a bit of softness and pull back from clients. Now there are certain clients that are always going to be focused on price, and think of the marketing and advertising budget as an expense to be cut. We tend to be more effective with clients that look at advertising and marketing as an investment to grow their businesses. And so these are some of the challenges that we’re looking at as we think about the headwinds in the industry and how our agencies are grappling with them.

Jaime Morris

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then, I guess, just one other. The slowdown in March and April, it just seems to be slightly different than what some of your peers have reported. And it’s a relatively strong economic environment, and I understand what you’re saying. I’m just wondering, is there anything - any sectors in particular or anything to call out where you might be differing versus others?

David Doft

Analyst

Jaime, you’ve been around us long enough to know that we’ve never really been consistent with overall industry trends in good times or bad times. And ultimately, it comes down to our client base versus the overall exposure of the industry, where our competitors are large enough where they’re basically proxies for the industry. So in this case, we have a small handful of clients that have reduced their spending, which has impacted us, combined with a pipeline that’s playing out slower. And it’s really those 2 things together that have impacted us.

Jaime Morris

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Peter Stabler of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Peter Stabler

Analyst

So a couple, if I could here. Just, first of all, David, on the new business stuff, could you just clarify this a little bit. I’m a little confused. I’m not sure whether it’s wins that are converting more slowly, whether it’s a win rate that you had anticipated going into the year that’s not materializing. I’m just unclear on exactly what you’re saying when you’re talking about timing. And that, let’s start there, and then I have another one.

David Doft

Analyst

Sure. It’s not wins that we have ramping up slower. It is new business opportunities that are taking much longer to play out than we anticipated. And when, going back to my prepared remarks about how we look at coming to the year, obviously, there are things in our pipeline that are very near term in terms of potential, and there are things that are more medium and long term. And it’s some of those near-term potential items that have just dragged and dragged to the point where, even if they were to convert, we wouldn’t have enough time in the year to make up the gap from what we expected, especially when you combine it with the couple of the hits that we took with existing clients that I referred to. So it was kind of a build of those, a combination of those 2 things. And it got to the point where we felt that we were running out of time to catch up to the level that we needed for our prior guidance, and so decided to update you on that today.

Peter Stabler

Analyst

So just to be clear then, these were pitches that you were involved in, that you had expected to conclude earlier than they have, and you had also expected to win a certain percentage of them, is that right?

David Doft

Analyst

They are pitches we’re involved in or direct discussions we’re involved in that aren’t playing out at the pace that we expected.

Peter Stabler

Analyst

Okay. And then, secondly, in terms of the revised outlook for the year. In some of the other agencies, the larger peers last year hit air pockets. A lot of time, that was assigned to projects not coming through. I didn’t hear you talk about any project-based business. Kind of hoping you could comment on your visibility and your confidence going forward. The narrative, while the others were suffering, the narrative was very bullish out of you guys, and I understand that you’re not proxy for the industry, but you had also consistently talked about durable advantages. And now, now we’re hearing more about kind of restructuring or new initiatives and that kind of thing, so I’m just trying to reconcile these things.

David Doft

Analyst

Sure. I’ll start out on the project versus retainer and then pass on to Scott, broadly. Ultimately, again, it just comes down to a few clients that, some are retainer, a couple are project. There’s no big project trend versus retainer trend, except that we’ve seen some instances where there are cutbacks that came after the year started, that weren’t anticipated and impacting us combined, again, and I’m sorry I repeat myself, but combined with the stretching out of the pipeline. And it’s the cumulative aspect of that that we’re looking at. For sure, over the last 3 years, there’s been a little bit more volatility in the business. I think you all have seen that. And we see that, too. But based on the desire of brands to speak to our agencies, to include them in discussions for opportunities to help them with their businesses, we continue to have high visibility of opportunity to grow and grow a whole lot faster than everybody else. It’s just not happening right now.

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

David, I think, said it all. I mean, it’s a constrained environment and it’s impacted our financial performance.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Rich Tullo of Midtown Partners. Please go ahead.

Rich Tullo

Analyst

Hey guys, thank you for taking my questions. One question here. You lost hotels.com right after you reported first quarter results, correct?

David Doft

Analyst

I’m not sure of the specific timing. The difference when things get reported in the press versus when we know about it.

Rich Tullo

Analyst

Okay. How much is that resulting in the guidance being brought down? And in general, with everything else we’ve discussed today, can we look at this in terms of headwind that you have to get over or is this some more secular trend in what’s going on at MDC Partners?

David Doft

Analyst

So I’m not going to point to one client that impacted this. And to be clear, on hotels, we lost the media buying piece of the business, but continue to be their creative agency for their work. And surely, we lose business all the time and we win business all the time, and some makes the press and some doesn’t make the press. And that’s just the life of all ad agencies. So ultimately, I think that based on the opportunity that’s ahead of us, and the pipeline of new business opportunities that we see, assuming that those move along and we start to see some conversion, hopefully, we could see a reacceleration of growth rates sooner rather than later. But we didn’t think it would be prudent sitting here on this call, with the first quarter results as they are, to keep the old numbers out there and so we’re updating them.

Rich Tullo

Analyst

And with all that’s going on with WPP, are you guys a strategic buyer or seller in the market -- in the M&A market?

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

We just closed an acquisition. And we had said at the outset, in our end of year call, that we were revisiting the M&A markets given the strength of the balance sheet and the free cash flow that we had generated. I think it’s independent of anything that WPP is or isn’t doing.

Rich Tullo

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Barry Lucas of Gabelli & Company.

Barry Lucas

Analyst

Thank you, good evening. David or Scott, I’m just trying to square this. Again, we’ve got a fairly good economy, benefits of tax reform likely to help the balance of the year, you’re North American-centric. So what are you -- if your existing clients are cutting back, what do they tell you? What are you hearing in pitches? Where is the business going because this is relatively new and novel?

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

Every client wants more for less. And to remain competitive, we continue to bring new features and functions and solutions to the table. So there’s been a constant and ongoing challenge and tension and friction with clients. Price has always been part of the equation. There’s been a dramatic shift in all of the different services that we deliver and how those are priced. But at the end of the day, I’d say this is more about slowdown than about a tectonic shift. When we look at the pipeline and we think about the businesses that are still there to be won, to the extent that they didn’t close in the first quarter, then they can maybe close in the second quarter, but we don’t see revenue until the back half of the year. So we’re just trying to be prudent. We look at - or we talk with all of our agencies, we roll up all the numbers, and this is where we sit today. And it’s just a handful of clients that can shift things both up and down. And so we’re staying close to it, we’re very focused on it and we’re going to continue to help our agencies drive the top line, create operational efficiencies and look for additional ways to unlock shareholder value within the portfolio.

Barry Lucas

Analyst

Scott, is this sector-specific? Are there particular areas of the economy that you can call out that seem to be more affected or is it broader based across your client portfolio?

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

I’d say it’s more a sentiment among CMOs generally, who have to be held - are being held more accountable across all industry for results of these investments. But, historically, where there have been challenges to the sector, for instance, in consumer packaged goods, we’ve done well. There’s been a lot of disruption in the traditional agency relationships and our agencies which, in the prior era, not too long ago, we’re affectionately referred to as creative boutiques, now have the scale and the technical problems to meet global agencies is likely. You heard us talk about health care, which is the place where we’re making more dramatic investments. We think it’s a high-growth sector, and we continue to grow outside of North America. So we see lots of pockets of growth and we’re just being prudent about setting expectations about the rest of the year based on what the first quarter has look like.

David Doft

Analyst

And Barry, just to point out, on Slide 9 of the presentation, we show impact of client verticals in the quarter. And it was actually quite a bit of divergence this quarter. We actually had no verticals that were flat to up 10%. They either grew more than 10% or they went backwards a little bit. And ultimately, there you can see in the ones that grew more than 10%, some good underlying momentum. But then there are the instances where we’ve seen an impact from a client or 2 would be reflected more in those categories that were below 0.

Barry Lucas

Analyst

All right. Thanks for that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question will come from Lee Cooperman from Omega Advisors.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst

I’ve got a series of questions, some of which implicitly might have asked. But do we have a financial covenant that we have to worry about given this miss? Second, what is the net debt you’re projecting at year-end 2018? And do you have a revised - the third question is, do you have a revised EBITDA guidance? Because I don’t really see that in the releases. And fourth and probably bigger, I’ve held on for so long because I was hoping the industry would be consolidated, but I’m wondering whether with the advent of digital media, Google and Facebook’s effect on the advertising business, whether the franchise is worth less than I would have thought. But if you could comment on these 4 questions, I’d appreciate it. Thank you.

David Doft

Analyst

Sure. So we don’t have any issues with our covenants at the first quarter, which is seasonally our peak quarter in terms of leverage ratios. We finished with lots of room on our covenants and continue to expect lots of room. And as I said in our prepared remarks, liquidity of the business is strong and we continue to be on a path to deleveraging the balance sheet, again, this year on top of very strong deleveraging last year. As you know, to your next question, we have $900 million of senior notes and we expect to be in a cash position, not in the revolver, at year-end. We haven’t given a specific target so net debt should be less than $900 million. Revised EBITDA, the range implied by the revenue and margin guidance we gave should fall out between $200 million and $210 million.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst

[Indiscernible] previously?

David Doft

Analyst

The last range, the last number implied is kind of $214 million, $215 million.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst

I’m sorry, before the revision of guidance, it was $214 million, $215 million. So you’ve reduced your EBITDA by $14 million to $15 million, to $5 million, $5 million to $14 million?

David Doft

Analyst

Correct.

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

And Lee, on the issue of consolidation, that speaks to our pronouncement of, we believe there’s a lot of unrecognized value in the portfolio and we are vigorously pursuing any and all options to realize that value on behalf of shareholders.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst

You’ve been more of a buyer than a seller. I mean, we’ve not been the best custodian of the shareholders money. I mean, this call is so different, Scott, than what you just talked about on the last call when, people wonder kind of what you’re up to.

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

Well, look, as the Chairman, I can assure you that it’s the board’s responsibility to consider any and all options to maximize shareholder value. It’s a fiduciary duty that we take seriously. And as I said, we’re committed to it.

Operator

Operator

And the next question will come from Steven Cahall with RBC. Please go ahead.

Steven Cahall

Analyst

Yes. Sorry, I joined a little late. So hopefully, I’m not asking anything that you have to repeat. My question is just around visibility. Last year, you significantly exceeded your guidance and this year, obviously, after the quarter, you’re changing your guidance. And I don’t think that, that’s just, that you all are bad forecasters, but that your clients are just having a lot less visibility in their own outlook. And so what do you think it takes in this industry for some of the visibility to return just to improve the predictability of revenue growth for the longer term?

David Doft

Analyst

That’s, actually, a really interesting way to ask that question, and I appreciate it. We think about that all the time. I think, ultimately, as Scott alluded to before, there’s kind of 2 schools of thought right now in corporate America. And one, our company is under pressure to drive any sorts of earnings growth they can in competitive industries. And unfortunately, we have looked at marketing sometimes is an expense that could be made more efficient or cut. But many companies and many emerging companies that are challenging those other ones that I just referred to, view marketing as an investment in order to differentiate their business and drive growth. And one of the core premises of our strategy is to continue to evolve our offering where we can increase. We prove out the value of the service we deliver so that there’s no question that marketing is an investment, as opposed to an expense. And I think that as we and others are able to do that by leveraging the power of 1 to 1 relationships with customers, the power of data will, I think, greatly enhance the visibility both for corporate America and for us and our competitors related to advertising spend.

Steven Cahall

Analyst

That’s fair, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this will conclude our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Scott Kauffman, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks.

Scott Kauffman

Analyst

Thanks. In closing, I just want to thank everyone for joining us today and to reiterate that we remain focused on accelerating revenue growth, driving operating efficiency and unlocking unrecognized value in our portfolio. Good afternoon from New York City.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation, and you may now disconnect your lines.