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Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 9, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to ShotSpotter’s Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Sachi, and I will be your operator for today’s call. Joining us are ShotSpotter’s CEO, Ralph Clark; and CFO, Alan Stewart. Please note that certain information discussed on the call today will include forward-looking statements about future events and ShotSpotter’s business strategy and future financial and operating performance. These forward-looking statements are only predictions and are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict and may cause the actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by those statements. Certain of these risks and assumptions are discussed in ShotSpotter’s SEC filings, including its registration statement on Form S-1. These forward-looking statements reflect management’s beliefs, estimates and predictions as of the date of this live broadcast, November 9, 2021, and ShotSpotter undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this call will be recorded and made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of the company’s website at ir.shotspotter.com. Now, I would like to turn the call over to ShotSpotter’s CEO, Ralph Clark.

Ralph Clark

Management

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. I hope everyone out there is doing well. As you I’ll start with a quick overview of the quarter and our operational outlook before Alan details the quarterly results. We’ll then take your questions. We reported revenues in line with our expectations of $14.5 million up 28% from $11.4 million in Q3 of 2020. Quarterly adjusted EBITDA was $2.2 million compared to $3.3 million last year. The adjusted EBITDA decrease was largely due to continued strategic communications in legal spend associated with defending the company of customers and our stakeholders from the weaponized false claims of various media outlets and our $300 million defamation suite against Vice Media. Overall ShotSpotter respond had a very strong go-live in our cadence this quarter. We secured three new customers, Winston Salem, Virginia Beach and Miramar, Florida, and went live with seven expansions of existing customers, including Puerto Rico and Albuquerque, which became our third and eighth largest clients by mileage at 30 and 40 miles respectively. Based on our progress to date, we believe we have clear line of sight to an estimated 105 go-live miles this year, which be 15 miles or 17% more than the 90 we have forecasted earlier this year in an overall 100% increase of the 49 miles we went live within 2020. There a growing number of respond projects that currently total over 50 miles that are staffed during the process of being deployed over the next four months. These include a new agency capture of an initial seven miles in Macon-Bibb County, Georgia, along with expansions for existing customers, such as Louisville and Fresno. This mileage ad momentum represents a significant reacceleration of miles being added to the platform and sets the state for our continued strong…

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you, Ralph. As Ralph mentioned with respond, we went live in three new cities and also booked two new campus customers this quarter, while, once again, seeing no city attrition. We also went live with seven city expansions and achieved strong revenue growth, 28% compared to the third quarter of 2020. With our continued success in retaining customers through Q3 of this year, we expect that our 2021 revenue attrition will be less than 1% similar to last year’s excellent results. Let me provide more details on the quarter, and then I will share some thoughts around the balance of the year. Third quarter revenues came in at $14.5 million at 28% increase over the $11.4 million in the third quarter of 2020. Revenue increased as our deployed miles increased year-over-year, along with revenue contributions from our LEEDS acquisition. Professional services revenue from LEEDS was sequentially down versus the last two quarters, which is lumpy in nature on a quarter-to-quarter basis. We expect the professional services revenue to increase in the fourth quarter. Gross profit for the third quarter of 2021 was $8 million or 55% of revenue versus $6.4 million or 57% of revenue for the prior year period. Gross margin was a bit lower as a result of lower gross margins on the professional services provided by our LEEDS team. We expect this to improve in Q4. Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter was $2.2 million a decrease from the $3.3 million in the third quarter 2020. As a reminder, adjusted EBITDA is calculated by taking our GAAP net income or loss and adding back interest taxes, depreciation, amortization and stock-based compensation. As Ralph mentioned, the reason for our lower adjusted EBITDA and our net loss for the quarter is primarily related to the increase in legal…

Ralph Clark

Management

Thanks, Alan. We’re always very grateful for the strong support we receive from our many stakeholders, especially our work colleagues who continue to passionately lean in every day in servicing law enforcement and their efforts to serve and protect our most vulnerable communities. We’ll now take your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Matt Pfau from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start off with the 2022 guidance and maybe you can just give us a little bit more detail on what’s factored into that. How many miles that you’re expecting are sort of already in the books. And then, when you look at some of your other solutions like Investigate, are you expecting a material contribution from that? Thanks.

Alan Stewart

Management

Sure. This is Alan. I’ll go ahead and start, and Ralph go ahead and add or correct as needed. So in terms of the guidance, we’re saying $71 million to $73 million. We also said that we are starting the year with $64 million in ARR and $5 million in professional services. So basically we already start the year with $69 million that would either be already under contract or expected. So there’s nothing that is tied into that $69 that even deals with the X expansions and the go-live miles for next year. So, we do expect to have a similar year next with go-live miles, depending on when those actually go-live that will add actual GAAP revenue to the $69 that I was referring to.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Great. That’s super helpful. And then the other thing I wanted to ask about was, in terms of the customer response or response from prospects and respect to the lawsuit, that you filed against Vice Media, what has the feedback been there? Has it maybe helped alleviate concerns that may have been holding back prospective customers? Thanks.

Ralph Clark

Management

Sure. So this is Ralph, I think it’s fair to say with our existing install base or customer relationships we’ve gotten very, very positive feedback because our holding Vice Media to account is just not only on behalf of the company and our employees in the, like, but also our many stakeholders and partners in our customer universe. I think it’s also fair to say that although we’ve had a great year, this year with kind of bringing on cities and agencies on the platform the weaponization of these false claims from Vice has created some headwind for us. And so that’s why we’re just being very, thoughtful about how we think about guidance going forward. Again, it’s very, very positive. We start the year 2022 with $69 million of very, very visible revenue, but certainly the Vice Media defamation has kind of created some headwinds for us it’s made deals take longer, we have to spend more money to drive revenue and it certainly added some risk.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Great. thanks for taking my questions guys. Appreciate it.

Ralph Clark

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Brian Ruttenbur from Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.

Brian Ruttenbur

Analyst

Yes, thank you very much. First of all, on legal expense in the quarter, how much was in that – how much legal was in there and how much was it strategic marketing. Do you have any kind of break out on that?

Alan Stewart

Management

Yes, so this is Alan basically. We had overall for the quarter legal and strategic marketing communications cost a little over $800,000. However, that would typically be closer to maybe a $25 million or up to $300,000. So the increase was about a $0.5 million going towards what we’re talking about.

Brian Ruttenbur

Analyst

Okay. And then going forward into the fourth quarter, you’re saying gross margins are going to increase and that will legal expense go down in the fourth quarter or should it stay where it is?

Alan Stewart

Management

Let’s see Alan again, I think at this point we still expect to be spending appropriately in the legal expenses. So it would be similar to expect it to be close to what we’d spent in Q3. Gross margin we expect to be significantly higher in a percentage basis in a dollar basis as well. Because some of the professional services that basically were down in Q3 will start to increase in Q4 and then continue to increase in Q1 that helps significantly both the gross margin and net income and adjusted EBITDA as well.

Brian Ruttenbur

Analyst

Okay. And then in terms of the guidance, just going back to that first question, the $71 million to $73 million, given that you have $69 million, it appears in hand seems extremely conservative. Are you just being extremely conservative or you think that there’s just such a long lead time with new projects that’s a realistic projection?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes, this is Ralph, I think..Go ahead, Alan.

Alan Stewart

Management

Sorry.

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes, no, I think, I think we’re trying to be very reasonable and thoughtful here. I think it’s a great benefit to the company to start with visibility with $69 million. I think getting to $72 million would require us obviously to continue making progress ongoing live with additional miles. We’re certainly expecting contributions from Connect and Investigate in 2022. And I think international is still a bit of a wide wildcard. I think that could be potentially very impactful. I think in my comments, I made the statement that we’re making the appropriate investments to make sure that we hit our guidance and possibly even exceeded. So there definitely is some upside potential in that number.

Brian Ruttenbur

Analyst

Great. Ralph, did you want add anything to that before I ask one more question?

Alan Stewart

Management

That was Ralph. Yes. So maybe it’s – Alan.

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. That I’m Ralph. Yes, so Alan would you say anything, would you, have you have any add to that or moderate to that?

Alan Stewart

Management

No, I think you, you covered it well,

Brian Ruttenbur

Analyst

Sorry about that. Okay. Last question, in terms of federal funding coming down do you see anything in the near term, end of the fiscal year, already happened the government fiscal year, so we’re in a new fiscal year. Do you see any appropriation settled sides that you can touch with your product?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes, so I think we talked about getting, so making some really good progress on the earmarks process. So earmarks are coming back. We’ve been very successful in advocating for eight earmarks across the Senate and the house that those still haven’t been formally approved as a overall appropriations package, but they have kind of come out of their perspective CJs committee. So that’s extremely positive. Certainly the American Rescue act has had a lot of beneficial tailwind to our business. And increasingly we’re seeing municipal governments that are allocating budget dollars to address gun violence because of the significant and measurable uptick in gun violence. So, I don’t think the funding environment has been more constructive or positive than it’s ever been in the past 11 years that I’ve been with the company. That’s probably one of the really strong things about our business that we’re quite encouraged by the funding is not a issue it’s creating a significant tailwinds for us.

Brian Ruttenbur

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Ryan Kimbrel from Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Ryan Kimbrel

Analyst

Hey guys. I know it’s been touched on already, but I just want to clarify, is there any, is there a minimum base run rate, maybe I guess, of what we should be expecting on a go forward basis from the legal costs associated with the defamation suite?

Alan Stewart

Management

Yes, this is Alan. I do think that, in terms of what we are spending right now, we did spend quite a bit preparing to actually file the lawsuit. So it is possible that maybe on a quarterly basis, it goes down a little bit. Although it could also go know up or even stay the same. So, I would say it’s pretty appropriate to expand for the next couple quarters to say, it’s going to be about the same.

Ryan Kimbrel

Analyst

Okay, great. And then last one for me, I just want to touch on the Houston trial. I believe we’re coming up on that one earmark. Can you give us an update of how things are going there, have you started to see any of the positive network effect happen? Like you’ve talked about and, is there anything you can tell us on long-term contract talks that you haven’t already?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So this is Ralph, I would say things in Houston and also Harris County by the way, which is next door to Houston are going extremely well. Both those agencies are excellent practitioners of leveraging our real time alerts to help respond to and ultimately prevent and reduce gun violence in both those areas. Our expectations are that we are going to see a go forward on that Houston deployment. And there will be a paying customer going into 2022, that’s our full expectation.

Ryan Kimbrel

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks guys.

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you.

Ralph Clark

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Mike Latimore from Northland Capital. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, this is Aditya on behalf of Mike Latimore. Could you give me some color on the sales cycle? How do you characterize your sales cycle? Has it been shrinking in the recent times?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So this is Ralph. I’ll give it a shot, Alan, and jump in and add on a correct me it’s appropriate, but I would say it’s a bit mixed. I think in certain situations we’ve seen a fairly significant collapse of the sales cycles, but at the same time, I think it’s appropriate that we factor in some complications on the sales factor or – excuse me, on the sales cycle due to some of the headwinds we’ve seen from this defamation characterization that Vice Media put out there. We’ve seen a couple situations and it’s been publicly reported where there was an agency that ultimately went forward, but they had to jump through a lot more hoops and kind of respond to ridiculousness and so I think it’s a bit of a mixed message. And again, that’s why we’re trying to be very thoughtful and careful around our guidance for 2022, we’re starting from a great base of $60, $69 million of visibility. So we’re effectively looking at adding another $3 million of GAAP revenue, which if we were to do something on the order of a hundred miles next year, evenly spread over the year, that would kind of get us to $3.5 million assuming, kind of $7 million kind of on average ARR spread across the, the, the year. So that gives you a sense of how we’re trying to be thoughtful about guidance going for, or knowing that we’re, going into some headwinds, great tailwinds, but also seeing some headwinds as well.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

All right. And also, could you give some color on the international market? Do you see the international market quite constrained at the moment?

Alan Stewart

Management

Yes, so this is Alan. I mean, we continue to see challenge internationally. They’re still dealing with the results of the pandemic. I would say we did go out, in the Nelson Mandela Bay at the end of last year. And as Ralph mentioned about Cape Town, we hope that that will still come live in 2022. Other than that we’re still pursuing options and opportunities that are in places like Mexico, Brazil, and other areas as well. Some maybe even some expansions in some other international that we have, but it is still challenging and it is, there’s not a significant expectation in our current guidance to get to our $71 million to $73 million from international at this point, hopefully that changes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

All right, fine. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ralph Clark for any closing remarks.

Ralph Clark

Management

Great. No, thank you very much, really appreciate everyone’s support over the year. And certainly this past quarter we’re excited to kind of get back to work and finish the year on a really strong footing and looking forward to being very successful in 2022. So thank you all very much. Really appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.