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Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Sun, May 13, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to Shotspotter’s First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Claudia and I will be your coordinator for today’s call. Joining us for today’s call are Shotspotter’s CEO, Ralph Clark and CFO, Alan Stewart. Please note that certain information discussed on the call today will include forward-looking statements about future events and Shotspotter’s business strategy and future financial and operating performance. These forward-looking statements are only predictions and are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict and may cause the actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by those statements. Certain of these risks and assumptions are discussed in Shotspotter’s SEC filings, including its registration statement on Form S-1. These forward-looking statements reflect management’s beliefs, estimates and predictions as of the date of this live broadcast, May 8, 2018 and Shotspotter undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. Finally, I would like to remind everybody that this call will be recorded and made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of the company’s website at ir.shotspotter.com. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Shotspotter’s CEO, Ralph Clark. Sir, please proceed.

Ralph Clark

Management

Thanks, operator and hello to all of you on the call today. As usual, I am going to give some color on the quarter and Alan will go through our results before we take your questions. I would like to take a brief moment to wish my amazingly beautiful and patient wife Rebecca, Happy Birthday and Happy 30th Anniversary on this very special day, May 8. Thank you for supporting me in my passionate pursuit of my purpose. Now on to business, I am pleased to report that Q1 2018 represented a very solid financial and operational start to our full year 2018 objectives. Our financial momentum was reflected in our top line revenue performance of $6.9 million, up 51% from a year ago. In addition, we also saw our gross margin expand to 52%, up sequentially from 49% last quarter Q4 2017. We also experienced a smaller operating loss than we had expected demonstrating the strong financial leverage our business model provides. Our mission is to help reduce gun violence and improve public safety and responsiveness in communities grappling with these issues. And this quarter we continued to execute on that mission by expanding our footprint with existing customers and deploying our solution in new cities. Operationally, we went live with four new customers, including Bakersfield, Rockford, Atlanta and Sacramento County. These new cities, combined with expansions in Denver, Fresno, Chicago and the City of Sacramento, yielded 47 net new miles for Q1 2018 compared to 29 net new miles in Q1 2017, a year-over-year increase of 62%. As I explained in last quarter’s call, we focused primarily on our annual net new miles number as quarterly results can sometimes be a bit lumpy due to the various administrative factors that can affect our permitting and install process required…

Alan Stewart

Management

Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us to discuss our first quarter 2018 results. As Ralph has shared, we had a very strong quarter to start the year and are pleased to have exceeded our revenue expectations and added a record number of net new miles. Based on our performance, we are increasing our full year revenue guidance. So, let’s look at the details of the quarter. Revenues for first quarter increased 51% to $6.9 million. Our growth was driven by both expanded deployments for current customers and the addition of four new cities. Gross profit for the first quarter was $3.6 million or 52% of total revenues, up from $1.9 million or 41% in the first quarter of 2017. We are particularly pleased with the sequential increase in our gross margin to 52%, up from 49% in fourth quarter. As mentioned last quarter, the costs associated with our SLA are substantially behind us, so we expect gross margins to continue to increase throughout the year. In order to add more color to our performance, we are adding a new non-GAAP metric starting this quarter, adjusted EBITDA. This metric will be our GAAP net income with net interest, taxes, depreciation, amortization and stock-based compensation added back in. For the first quarter of 2018, our adjusted EBITDA is a positive $26,000. We expect that our adjusted EBITDA will remain positive in future quarters. Turning to our expenses, our operating expenses in the first quarter were $4.8 million, a 57% increase over last year, reflecting increased costs related to revenue growth and operating as a public company. Sales and marketing expenses for the first quarter were $1.6 million or 22% of total revenues versus $1.1 million or 24% of total revenues for the prior year period. This increase reflects the…

Ralph Clark

Management

Great. Thank you very much, Alan. It really is truly an honor to be your partner here at Shotspotter. I am extremely grateful for your focus and hard work. I think we are ready to take your questions now. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Richard Baldry with ROTH Capital. Please go ahead.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

Thanks. Can you talk a little bit, I guess I was surprised to see the COGS line down, slightly down, but still was down sequentially. How should we think about that? And in the long-term as you grow, how do you think that will move sort of in-step with revenues with some leverage, will it be more lumpy as you have to put in capacity at certain moments in time? How do we really plan that ahead?

Alan Stewart

Management

Great question, Rich. This is Alan. We did see our cost of goods sold decrease on that. We do think that is the start of the trend actually and our gross margins should be increasing slightly throughout the year. We did have some SLA cost in Q4 and also some in Q1, but we are also seeing a slight reduction in some of our cost of goods sold with some of our telecom cost, which is helping improve our gross margins as well.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

And you have been starting to add into the sale side and moving into some new geographies could you maybe talk about any early, how you feel about receptiveness there, how they react to your referenceable customers from different geographies sort of any early indications?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So, I would say, this is Ralph, Rich, I think the mood is very positive. We are engaged in a number of conversations and the quality of conversations, are really quite encouraging. We are spending a lot of time of course with our buying center in law enforcement, but we are also spending time with elected officials having participated in a number of conferences, such as U.S. Conference of Mayors and the National League of Cities. So we are feeling really positive about things. I think that under Gary’s leadership we are getting our sea legs on the domestic sales front. And as I mentioned in my earlier prepared remarks, we are really quite excited by the early start that Jon has had in Latin America just being onboard for less than 2 months, the number of conversations that he is having actually in-market have been really quite encouraging. Although our expectation always was that 2018 was going to be more around market scan activity with looking to get real revenue traction sometime in 2019. So we are feeling pretty bullish.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

You talked a little bit about how Baltimore is funding their new expansion with a grant. Do you sort of have a behind the scenes view of the broader ecosystem of grants, the amount of monies maybe made available? As you are getting more referenceable again with places like Chicago without maybe naming specific places, how do you feel about that funding environment maybe compared to prior years as a source of potential pipeline going forward?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So, this is Ralph again. I think we have always maintained that funding is really not an issue for us. Once we have a motivated customer or client that wishes to adopt our solution to address violent crime, they always find the money. We are quite, I think fortunate in this environment we are seeing, I guess a much more rich mix of funding sources, I would say, so we will continue to depend obviously on funding sources from the agencies of the U.S. federal government. We are seeing more states kind of kick in the funding a lot more on the private public partnership basis, ala the Bloomberg Philanthropies funding source that we saw for Baltimore. So we are pretty encouraged by that, but that’s never really honestly been a very big issue for us. I think it’s really more around kind of motivating cities to adopt a solution to address gun violence and as what you kind of hinted to I think is very important for folks to understand is that as we get more positive examples out there like Chicago, Cincinnati, Louisville, etcetera that these folks basically become very strong references for us and word of mouth is everything in this particular marketplace. I think we are seeing an accelerated set of conversations that are happening just because of the positive impact that we are able to make with agencies in our solution.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

Thanks. The last one would be you did turn adjusted EBITDA positive again and you have been there a few times and it looks like it’s sustainable here forward. So in light of that and the fast growth that you have already got, maybe could you talk about what your appetite would be to deploy the cash on the balance sheet now as it starts to grow against maybe strategic initiatives. Is it more important to focus on internal growth when you have gotten over 50% growth rate or do you think there is bandwidth for other strategic moves? Thanks.

Alan Stewart

Management

So, this is Alan. I would say that we are going to continue to focus primarily on organic growth. We still have a lot of headroom there and we feel that spending money there is the most appropriate place to do it, especially in the sales and marketing side. We are also investing in the R&D and engineering organization to expand our capabilities in the analytics and cognitive side as well. So we will be spending money there. That said, we are and continue to be interested in tuck-in acquisitions that might make sense from a strategic perspective that could add to our portfolio of products that our customers might want.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

Thanks. Congrats on a great quarter.

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jeremy Hamblin with Dougherty & Co. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Hi guys. Congratulations. And I wanted to get into the Chicago rollout and just get a sense for you are roughly doubling your coverage miles. In terms of the timing of getting that setup and the setup cost associated that potentially have some drag on your gross margins. How is that shaping up here over the next kind of 18 months?

Alan Stewart

Management

So, this is Alan. Just to provide a little bit of color here. We ended the last year we publicly disclosed that we had about 47 miles live in Chicago. We did put out a press release just recently that talked about over 100 square miles. So obviously the delta is what has gone live between the end of last year and the press release which is early May. So that’s over 50 square miles. We feel pretty bullish about that customer in particular and we still do continue to deploy in that city. I would say that the actual rate of deployment there was very, very aggressive. As Ralph mentioned in his prepared remarks, our operational and field services teams did a phenomenal job in very challenging conditions to deploy those miles. So I do think that we are going to continue to expand and try to keep the deployment schedule as high as it has been, although that will be somewhat challenging. Ralph, your thoughts there?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. I just want to add one slight editorial comment that I think it’s really the 100 square miles that we talked about in the press release really was more around the booked number and not necessarily go-live number, because we just published 47 net square miles going live and not all those were Chicago. So, I don’t want anyone to walk away with the impression that the delta between the 40 and the 100 was all Chicago going live, so just to be clear about that particular point. There is still some miles to go live in Chicago.

Alan Stewart

Management

Correct. And some of those miles did go live in April and early May as well.

Ralph Clark

Management

Correct.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Great. That’s a very helpful clarification. I also wanted to ask about your stock comp expense of $427,000. How is that allocated among your various line items? Is all that going into G&A? Is a portion of it in your sales and marketing and R&D line items?

Alan Stewart

Management

This is Alan. It is dispersed throughout the different line items in the income statement. We have got that the majority of it is in G&A and a smaller amount would actually be in cost of goods sold, sales and marketing and R&D, but over half of that is in G&A.

Ralph Clark

Management

And would that include director’s comp as well?

Alan Stewart

Management

Yes.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay, great. That’s helpful. And then I wanted also to follow-up on the grant money that obviously is a nice contributor here to Baltimore and a great win. I think the federal budget has about a $25 million line item for this year. In terms of what’s happened, the terrible events over the last several months, is there an indication through the discussions that you have in Washington that federal grant money could potentially be expanded even further to combat this gun violence problem?

Ralph Clark

Management

So, this is Ralph. I would say we are spending some time in DC, I would say that the conversations that are being had are quite constructive and I guess that’s all I would say about that. One never really quite knows what’s going to happen from a federal budgeting point of view. But certainly there is a lot of interest and people are paying attention to the issue of gun violence at large and the role that we are playing, frankly, in combating it. And I will also make the other observation that I think is very helpful that the current Attorney General Jeff Sessions comes from the State of Alabama where we have a very large deployment, a very successful deployment in Birmingham, Alabama. So, we know that a lot of good news coming out of Birmingham, Alabama is hopefully making its way to the Office of the AG, which is helpful for us.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Okay, great. And then the last question here, just sales and marketing I think was actually controlled much better than we had anticipated. I am assuming that that’s going to ramp a little bit higher as your total sales ramps and you have made a couple of hires this year. Is that a pretty fair assumption? I mean, you just got incredible leverage on that line item here on your sales growth, but how should we be thinking about that moving forward?

Alan Stewart

Management

Sure. This is Alan. Your assessment is correct. Q4 did have some, I would say, higher costs in terms of commissions. We also had our largest tradeshow, which is ISCP that happens in the fourth quarter of every year. So for first quarter on a comparative basis, some of those expenses were not included or did not recur at that rate. I would say though that we are continuing to invest in sales and marketing, especially our international operations, which will be included in that line and the addition of Sam Klepper, the Senior VP of Marketing. So, those numbers and those dollars will increase throughout the year.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Got it. Would you be able to quantify the ISCP costs, tradeshow costs?

Alan Stewart

Management

The ISCP costs were probably about $150,000.

Jeremy Hamblin

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking the questions guys. Good luck.

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Tim Klasell with Northland Securities. Please go ahead.

Tim Klasell

Analyst

Yes, good afternoon gentlemen and congrats on the good quarter. My question is about the sales cycles. With all the good press out of Chicago and other cities, what are you seeing with your sales cycles? Are they contracting at all with this? And then I have a quick follow-up after that.

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So, this is Ralph. So, we see our sales cycles as being kind of 12 to 18 months. They have come a long way from where they were, say 2 to 3 years ago and a lot of that has to do, I believe with the leadership of Gary Bunyard and the excellent team that he has built out under Nathan. We are certainly getting more kind of viral help with respect to accelerating the sales process, but I don’t think this will ever be a solution that gets us sold in less than 12 months. This is a complex sale and there is no getting around that. So, we just want to set people’s expectations correctly there.

Tim Klasell

Analyst

Okay, great. And then your smart city initiatives any sort of update there since that obviously is a pretty terrific opportunity and I didn’t hear anything on the call about that?

Alan Stewart

Management

Sure. This is Alan. I would say with regards to the GE/AT&T, we continue to explore opportunities with them. We did go live and the first one in Atlanta, early March. We are looking at several other opportunities there. And Verizon, we are still in the middle of the technology integration which we expect to have completed this year.

Tim Klasell

Analyst

Great. Alright, great. Thanks gentlemen.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from James Medvedeff with Cowen & Company. Please go ahead.

James Medvedeff

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Congratulations on the strong quarter.

Ralph Clark

Management

Thank you.

James Medvedeff

Analyst

So I wanted to follow-up on a couple of things. The share-based compensation was up pretty sharply quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. Is that the sort of level we should expect going forward or is there something special that happened this quarter?

Ralph Clark

Management

No, nothing that happened special this quarter, I would expect that that’s probably going to stay where at this level or even slightly increase.

James Medvedeff

Analyst

Okay. And that’s primarily important as we start thinking more about adjusted EBITDA the add-back there, right?

Ralph Clark

Management

Understood. That’s correct yes.

James Medvedeff

Analyst

And then the other question that I have is on the pipeline. As you just mentioned a 12 to 18-month sales cycle, can you give us any insight into what I guess two halves of the question. First of all, I assume the sales cycle is shorter when you are increasing the miles under coverage with existing cities. And that’s the first half of the question. The other half of the question is can you give us any insight into how the pipeline builds or is building or what’s sort of entering the front end of the pipeline, with the back end of the pipeline in the last month or so?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes, so great question. This is Ralph. I will take a crack at answering and then Alan can jump in as appropriate. So I think it’s first fair to say that we have a lot of visibility into our GAAP revenue for the remainder of the year, which is why we narrowed the range the way we did with our raise prospects and the way to think about that revenue basically builds first from deferred revenue and then there is a pipeline, if you will, associated with renewable contracts that come due in the year that we have a very good track record in getting/giving our sales same-store sales metric. We don’t see a lot of attrition. So those two numbers are fairly substantial. And then we have another number that adds to it. These are deals that we have booked that have not gone live yet technically. So, we talk about Baltimore as an example. It’s not contributing to revenue yet, although we have booked it and we are in process of gaining permissions and permitting and deploying sensors and the like and at some point in time, hopefully in Q2 that will go live and then we will be able to represent, if it went live say, July 1 as an example, we would have 50% of that annual revenue recognized before the remaining of the year. So when you add those three elements together, that gets us really, really, really, really close within our guidance range. We don’t require a lot of additional sales to be able to get to our new guidance range. It’s really about lighting up new miles. There will have to be some sales though and that kind of gets to deals that we typically don’t talk about, because we don’t talk about deals until they actually go live, but oftentimes cities will talk about things they are planning to do. If you do the very basic Google search, you can see there is a few cities out there that we haven’t mentioned that are talking about going to Shotspotter. We haven’t contracted with them yet in most cases, but we will be working obviously on those. That’s a part of our pipeline as well. Is that helpful?

James Medvedeff

Analyst

Yes. It was that last piece that I was mostly interested in, in terms of the business that we don’t know about yet, but you see building and wondering how that’s going or what you can tell us about it?

Ralph Clark

Management

It’s going very well.

James Medvedeff

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Ralph Clark

Management

You are welcome.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Joseph Osha with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Joseph Osha

Analyst

Hello there. Can you hear me okay?

Alan Stewart

Management

We can. Thank you.

Joseph Osha

Analyst

Okay, good. Yes. I wanted to ask in terms of your organization as it’s currently setup, are you capacity constrained in terms of how quickly you can light up your neighborhood? I am trying to get a sense as to how you need to scale the organization in line with the operational requirements that you have.

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So, this is Ralph and Alan can jump in here. So, we feel like we are in a very good place from a, I will call it a ops point of view, that’s the organization that’s led by Joe Hawkins that includes the project managers, the installers, as well as the field services team. We clearly demonstrated we have the capacity to light up kind of gross 50 square miles in a quarter in very difficult weather conditions and that capacity is there to do it again and beyond to the extent that there is business to be able to light up that we have got the capacity to do that at least 50 square miles. If we could do it in Q1 we could do it in Q2 and Q3 if business opportunities provided that for us. I don’t know, Alan, if you had anything to add?

Alan Stewart

Management

No, I think that's right. I think from the rest of the organization we continue to evaluate areas like our incident review center, our engineering and technology team. We do have staffing plans and intentions this year to add to those, but we think they are appropriate for the growth that we have and we do expect that our revenue increase is going to be greater than our increase in our operating expenses.

Joseph Osha

Analyst

Okay. And just to confirm, I believe I had this in my notes from the visit. You are not at all capacity constrained in your operations center, right?

Alan Stewart

Management

No, not at all.

Joseph Osha

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Ralph Clark

Management

Great. Thanks Joe.

Operator

Operator

At this time, this concludes our question-and-answer session. If your question was not taken, you may contact Shotspotter’s Investor Relations team at ssti@liolios.com. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Clark for his closing remarks.

Ralph Clark

Management

Great. Just want to thank everyone for their continued support and guidance for our company. We are all working very hard and obviously very committed to the work that we do with cities to help prevent and reduce gun violence. So, thank you very much for dialing in today and looking forward to talking to you all again in 3 months.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for joining us today for Shotspotter’s first quarter 2018 earnings call. You may now disconnect. Thank you.