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SuperCom Ltd. (SPCB)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Apr 24, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to SuperCom's fourth-quarter and year-end 2022 financial results and corporate update conference call. [Operator Instructions] Participants of this call are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcast live over the Internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. I'd now like to turn the call over to Stephanie Prince of PCG. Stephanie, over to you.

Stephanie Prince

Analyst

Thank you, Jenny, and thank you to everyone joining us. With me on the call today is Ordan Trabelsi, SuperCom’s President and Chief Executive Officer. I’d like to remind you that during this call, SuperCom management may be making forward-looking statements, including statements that address SuperCom’s expectations for future performance or operational results. Forward-looking statements involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause SuperCom’s actual results to differ materially from those statements. For information about these risks, uncertainties, and factors, please refer to the risk factors described in SuperCom’s most recently filed periodic report on Form 20-F, on Form 6-K, and SuperCom’s press release that accompanies this call, particularly the cautionary statements in it. Today’s conference call also includes EBITDA, a non-GAAP financial measure that SuperCom believes can be useful in evaluating its performance. You should not consider this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For a reconciliation of this non-GAAP financial measure to net loss, our comparable GAAP financial measure, please see the reconciliation table located in SuperCom’s earnings press release that accompanies this call. Reconciliations for other non-GAAP financial measures and comparable GAAP financial measures are available there as well. The content of this call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, April 20, 2023. Except as required by law, SuperCom disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to SuperCom’s, President of CEO, Ordan Trabelsi. Ordan?

Operator

Operator

Just checking Ordan, are you on mute?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Yes, yes. Thank you. Sorry about that. Thank you, Stephanie, and good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us today. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release with our financial results for the fourth quarter and year ended 2022. You can find a copy in the Investor Relations section of our website at supercom.com. Today, I'll start my comments with a brief update on our recent business highlight, strategy, and Q4 and 2022 results, followed by a Q&A session. SuperCom had a great year in 2022. Annual revenues increased by 44% to $17.7 million, and the company reach a positive EBITDA in both the third and fourth quarters after years of investment in our leading IoT technology. We also improved our operating cash flow significantly from an operating cash use of $9.4 million in 2021 to $4.7 million in 2022, roughly half, reflecting positive cash flow generation from new and old projects. During the past year, we won several important contracts in the US and Europe, guided over $40 million in total. And we're excited at the opportunities we see ahead. I'll go more into details in a few moments. To those new to SuperCom, SuperCom's mission is to revolutionize the public safety sector worldwide through proprietary electronic monitoring technology, data intelligence, and complementary services. Over the past 34 years since founding in 1988, we've been a trusted partner of dozens of governments worldwide, providing them with cutting-edge electronic and digital security solutions. Our strategy is to deliver technology with our top-notch solutions, expand our presence, and deliver outstanding services. We successfully executed that strategy by focusing on the following key factors. Our proprietary real-time monitoring technologies scores highly in competitive RFP and supports various programs, such as house arrest, GPS monitoring, rehabilitation services, domestic violence prevention, and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much. [Operator Instructions] Matthew Galinko, Maxim Group.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

All right, great. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a really strong close for the year and the growth we're seeing. I'd like to touch on sales and marketing. Particularly, I know you're up year over year for the full year. But if we look at the sequential pattern, you're down to the run rate you were at at the end of '21. So I'm just curious if -- why are we seeing that decline in the back half in sales and marketing spending? And does that tell us anything about waning investment in the initiatives in the US? Or is that still full steam ahead?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Great question. Let me just open up some of the financials from last year, because you're talking about comparison to the first quarters of 2021.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Yeah. Or even if you look sequentially from Q3 '22 to Q4 '22 or from Q2 '22 to Q4 '22, you'll see that step down over a couple of quarters.

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Okay. So we're having some -- okay. So from -- okay. Let me just evaluate just for one moment, please. Yes, okay. So sales and marketing does depend on the projects that we're trying to secure. It's not just a fixed cost, as you might think of a normal sales teams because the commissions also fall into it. So when a new project is when, we typically have a higher commission payments to our sales teams. And also, if we have any partnerships or other companies that are working with us, there's also expenses around that. That being said, our sales and marketing expenses are, on average, relatively stable. We did hire new sales people. So there's expansion in our sales and marketing expenses compared to, let's say, the beginning of 2021 or 2020. And we continue to expect to invest in sales and marketing in the US and Europe. That being said, we're also going to look for opportunities to optimize our costs, with our consideration for our goal of improved profitability and lower cash use, as you see the trend that we're exemplifying already, from 2021 to 2022, to use less operating cash. And we're keeping that in mind as we continue to grow our expansion throughout the world.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Got it. Thanks. And then I guess a follow-up question on that last point. Obviously, a very strong performance on the EBITDA line in the second half of '22 and a very strong revenue performance throughout the year. I know you're not guiding to it, but is it reasonable for us to expect EBITDA -- or is it a target to be EBITDA positive in 2023?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

So we were EBITDA positive as you know as well, roughly $400,000 and $770,000 in Q3 and Q4. We try to maintain EBITDA positivity even though we are aware there's fluctuations because of the project nature of our business. So in Romania, Q3 and Q4, with the launch of the project, there's a lot of revenue associated with it. We announced another order of $7 million earlier this year in 2023. And that can create some fluctuations in revenues, as we saw between the quarters. And accordingly, that could create the fluctuation in the EBITDA. So while the EBITDA could fluctuate between the quarters, when you look at annual basis or over a long-term basis, we try to stay above zero to be EBITDA positive. And as we continue to maintain more steady revenues and revenue growth, we will also look for additional pockets to optimize our expenses. We have the natural operating leverage baked in because we have the same fixed expenses for customer support, and inventory management, and project deployment, whether it's a $30 million project or a $2 million project. As the project sizes grow, we're seeing improvements and growth in our potential contribution for each unit that's deployed. It's not yet reflected in the gross margins in the financials because we're in early stages of Romania, where the gross margins are lower because of a lot of installations and deployment of IT. But the projects will continue, and that will be less of the prevailing revenue mix. And that will allow for increasing our gross margin for that project specifically. Now based on how other projects will fall into the mix, we'll see how the gross margin evolves altogether as well as the EBITDA, which we hope to maintain positive, even though it's not a clear guidance. Because we're still more guided by our long-term goals to expand our market presence and get closer and closer to a leader position as a player in the EM market.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

All right. Thanks. I’ll jump back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much. [Operator Instructions] Matthew Galinko.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Hey, thanks. I wanted to ask about the competitive environment, particularly in Europe, where I know you've talked about some large opportunities in the pipeline. Has it intensified in recent quarters? Do you feel like you still have an edge to maintain the sorts of win rates you've seen in the last couple of years?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Great question. And what we've been seeing over the past few years, except for the win in Romania, which we didn't expect that we'll win a new project for them. And [indiscernible] just the new projects for Croatia. So besides the existing projects that are running the lead, that we tried to win by displacing a competitor, new ones keep arriving. And they reach out to us, usually, through local companies. And we're still considered a player with great technology and a very strong momentum in the market. As we mentioned, our IoT group -- our IoT revenues grew by 75% to 76% year over year, where the market grew by 10%. So we're still -- the start application is still very strong and our technology still scores very highly. We don't -- even though the competition sometimes invest in R&D and developing new products, we haven't seen much of a threat from a technology perspective or technology scoring perspective. Our challenges and competitiveness is having to displace players that have a very comfortable position in a country where they've been for five, 10, 15, 20 years. I'm talking about more of the operation side. Having the officers get a company's new technology, the new processes, with a new company, and new vendor, that is more of a hurdle for us than the actual technology scores. Because we still have the newest features, the newest capabilities, the best performance, the best metrics. And we continue to invest and continue to come out with new products, as we mentioned earlier. PureOne and PureProtect are brand-new products this year, which are leaders in the industry. And two players, also, in the industry have merged in the last year, two large players that, we believe, makes it easier for us to compete, a…

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Got it. And maybe last one for me is a little bit maybe a two-part question. You mentioned continuing to invest in R&D and product. Do you anticipate -- or is it reasonable to expect that you'll have more products that rollout in the next year or two that you expect to either capture new customers with or upsell into existing customers? Is that something that you could continue to grow wallet share, if it makes sense to ask it that way? And I'll start with that one.

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Okay. Yeah, we do expect to have new products and new generations of our existing products. It does depend on the projects that we win. For example, we won the Sweden Ministry of Justice project a few years ago, a $7 million project. And they required, also, inmate tracking in the prison. So the same bracelet would track the felons while they're in prison. And when they go on holidays or weekends, sometimes to their families, they track them in the city outside the prison facility. In some areas, they wanted alcohol monitoring, where we monitor the alcohol in their blood. Here, they wanted domestic violence for Romania, which we had and we, of course, enhanced also to support projects with such as size, 15,000 offenders simultaneously, but also to integrate new capabilities that we saw our customers were interested in from our previous deployments of domestic violence around the world. So as we win more projects, we continue to evolve our platform. And that same evolved platform goes with us over when we bid on other new projects. And another thing that you mentioned which is important is multiple modules to the same customers. So some of these customers start with house arrest, or GPS monitoring, or alcohol monitoring, or domestic violence, but then they expand into other capabilities. Because typically, once the government is running this kind of solution, there's no reason to only have one program. There's no reason to only have house rest. If you have house arrest, people are only required to stay at home. But some are able to also go the work and finance their families, and they're not at risk. So they're okay with GPS monitoring. Some are not even on house arrest, they're just on domestic violence. They can't be --…

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Got it. Thanks. Last question, really, around -- you talked a little bit about electronic monitoring being countercyclical or having some countercyclical tailwind. Anything specific you could point to, conversations with customers or just broadly in talking to existing or pipeline customers? Is there a sense that municipalities and governments are increasingly recognizing the cost of not being in an EM program? Or anything you could point to there would be great. Thanks.

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

What exactly did you say? Are our customers experiencing a cost from not being?

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Right, yeah. So to the extent of being -- if EM is a attractive alternative to incarceration from a cost perspective, are you seeing additional interest due to the environment we're in today?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Yes. Well, first of all, as you mentioned, and we talked about this for a while, there's roughly 90% savings, such as the $80 billion operating prisons in the US in 2020 would have been -- they could have saved $70 billion if they put everyone on house arrest. Not everyone is a good fit for house arrest, but the vast majority of the -- a big population is non-violent offenders, which could be great for programs like these. So there is definitely the government of cost savings and also the element of producing recidivism. Because right now, they'll go to prison. They sometimes become more knowledgeable in committing crime. And when they return to society, they don't have the proper financial services and proper company in society. They end up recommitting crimes with a high recidivism rate of over 75%. We have been able to -- on various programs in EM around the world, you see that go down to 35%. So there is -- beyond the cost, there's a general improvement in public safety. So when I say countercyclical -- yes, when the markets are looking into a looming recession, they're trying to save costs. And you see that with corporations and also with governmental entities. They certainly look at this as a viable opportunity for them to save costs, but also countercyclical and redundant and resilient. And we saw that also during COVID. Because people have to -- there has to be criminal justice services and you have to continue to detain offenders. So there's an essential service, as you might say. So even as -- if there is a recession one day, putting aside the fact that the recession could lead to a lower economic situation for many families and more crime, which would actually lead to more tracking of offenders, that's one opportunity. But at the least, it will continue running as is. So all these programs, almost, that we see around the world, whether it's in Europe or the US. They started to -- started in 2004 and are, right now, 100 or 1,000 times larger than they were back then. Over the last 19, 20 years, they've grown a lot and continue to grow through various market cycles, through 2008, 2010, through COVID. And we expect that to continue still. For -- it is interesting that investors talk to us sometimes. They're looking for diversity in the portfolio. And this will be a little less sensitive to the macro economy. This is a great opportunity for them, because they have to continue monitoring offenders. Criminal justice industry has to continue running. They're cost saving. And also, which is unfortunate, recession and low economic status families lead to more crime in community. And then we have a bigger role to help prevent the crime and help monitoring these offenders.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much. [Malcolm Moshwitz], private investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks. My name is Malcolm, not Moshwitz. First of all, I want to congratulate you for the great quarter and great year. And I wanted to ask you, you raised the money the last quarter. Do you have -- do you think you have enough money to continue on for the [indiscernible]?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Yes. Good question. And on top of this, on the script and on the Q&A, we saw a negative cash burn from operations, cash used. In 2021, we had a $9.4 million. That has decreased to $4.7 million in 2022. And that's because of these projects that are generating positive cash flow. We expect Romania to continue generating positive cash flow as well as these other projects in Sweden, in Denmark. And as we continue to add more projects, the positive cash flows from them would overcome any fixed cost that we have from being a public company, just running to a recent recession in the world. So at that stage, we'll be cash flow positive. And we hope to achieve that. But meanwhile, we raised some cash, and our balance is good. And it gives us ability to launch more projects and to support existing ones for the near future. And so over time, we'll expect to have a lower need for operating cash support from the market. And it will depend on what kind of projects we launch. We have over $200 million in our pipeline. Some of these are massive projects, and some require working capital increases. If we're trying to target $100 million or more in size, we need somewhat more working capital than we have today. I think if that happens, we're now going to be happy to support our increased -- growth in our working capital needs at that time.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks. I have another follow-up question. Do you have any negotiations for the [indiscernible] in the market by big companies who want to buy you?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Can you repeat that? Are there any negotiations with other companies wanting to buy us?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yeah. Are you on the shelf? I mean, are there other companies who maybe want to buy you? Maybe a safety company or, I don't know, a security company. Maybe they want to buy you. Did you talk with any companies about it?

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

So we are currently not on the shelf. We have not put ourself out there for acquisition. We think we have a good opportunity going forward, and we're trying to capitalize on it before doing something like that. That being said, because we continuously win against many of our competitors, there's been, I'd say vague discussions from various sources of potential interest to buy SuperCom. But it's not something that we have pursued extensively or looked into. Because we're really focused on our current organic growth plans with this plan and prospects.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you taking my call and keep up the good work. Thank you very much.

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Thank you very much to you as well.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Thank you very much. [Operator Instructions] Okay, Ordan. I think we have no more in the queue now. I can hand back over to you for any closing remarks.

Ordan Trabelsi

Analyst

Thank you, operator. And I want to thank all of you for participating in today's call and for your interest in SuperCom. Please contact us directly if you have any additional questions or through our IR firm. We look forward to sharing our progress with you on our next conference calls, filings, and press releases. Thank you, once again, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much, everybody. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.