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Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 14, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Chengfang Lu

Management

Hello. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all for your patience. So we will start now.

Unidentified Company Representative

Management

Hi. Thank you very much and sorry for the disconnection. Hello everyone, welcome to Lizhi Inc. Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. We released our financial and operating results via Newswire services earlier today and they are available online. Participants on today's call will include our Founder and CEO, Mr. Marco Lai; and our Acting CFO, Ms. Chengfang Lu. Management will begin with prepared remarks and the call will conclude with a Q&A session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. In addition, our earnings highlights presentation and a webcast replay of this conference call will be available on the IR section of our website at ir.lizhi.fm. Before we continue, please note that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements made under the Safe Harbor provision of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements typically contain words such as may, will, expect, target, estimate, intend, believe, potential continue or other similar expressions. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risk and uncertainty. The accuracy of these statements may be impacted by a number of business risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or anticipated, many of which factors are beyond our control. The company, its affiliate, advisors, representatives and underwriters do not undertake any obligation to update this forward-looking information, except as required under the applicable law. Please note that Lizhi's earnings press release and this conference call includes discussions of unaudited GAAP financial measures, as well as unaudited non-GAAP financial measures. Lizhi's press release contains a reconciliation of the unaudited non-GAAP measures to the unaudited GAAP measures. I will now turn the call over to our Founder and CEO, Mr. Marco Lai. Please go ahead.

Marco Lai

Management

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. For our second quarter, we delivered solid operational and financial results, as a go-to online audio platform for the younger generation in China. In the second quarter of 2020 our average mobile MAUs increased by 29% year-over-year, and we continue to convert our CapEx to paying users, which grew by 61% year-over-year. As a result, total revenue increased by 56% from the same period one year ago. We have also seen improving operational efficiency and profitability as non-GAAP gross margin jumps to 26% in the second quarter from 21% in the first quarter of 2020. With these solid fundamental impact, we remain at the leading position in our industry. As one of the largest podcast platforms in China, we are committed to further strengthening our two ecosystems by expanding our diverse and extensive user generated content library, attracting and cultivating more quality content creators, and continuously expanding our highly engaged community, which now expands a variety of interactive social entertainment features. In terms of audio content, we believe that compelling UGC-content delivered using our distinct audio-centric ecosystem, is a key to our success in attracting new users and retaining our existing user base. In the second quarter, we stepped-up our efforts to expand the audio portfolio in our content ecosystem and optimized our content creation and operating capabilities. Our most heavy trafficked were wrong topics that younger generations are most drawn to, such as life and relationship, talk shows and ACG. We hosted a number of events around those verticals. For example, through the Spice radio station program, we invited popular celebrities to read poetry, reflecting their perception on life, which inspires a massive audience base on our platform, as well as elevating traditional Chinese culture. We also launched many cultural programs,…

Chengfang Lu

Management

Thank you, Marco, and hello, everyone. Our second quarter financial performance underscores our improving operating efficiency and profitability. In the second quarter, our total net revenue increased by 56% to RMB350.9 million for the same period one year ago, driven by our robust growth in our paying user base. Our average number of monthly paying user increased by 51% year-over-year to 463.4 [ph] in the second quarter, mainly driven by our content enrichment strategy and continuous efforts in driving user engagement. Currently, we generate our revenue primary from our audio entertainment business, which contributed to RMB344.21 million to net revenues in the second quarter of 2020, representing year-over-year growth of 55%. We remain focused on bolstering user engagement and interaction among users and [indiscernible] by broadening social interactive features and products. This has driven the expression of our user base, added an improvement of the paying ratio in our interactive audio social entertainment products during the period. Additionally, podcast, advertising and other revenues grew by 141% year-over-year to RMB86.8 million in the second quarter of 2020. The increase was primarily attributable to the increase in the number of paying users in our podcast services. This also demonstrates the positive progress in our diversified commercialization. Cost of revenues increased by 65% year-over-year to RMB265.2 million at a decrease of 11% quarter-over-quarter. The year-over-year increase was primarily due to the increase of revenue sharing fees, payment handling costs and bandwidth costs, generally in line with growth of our business, as well as the recognition of share based compensation expenses. The quarter-over-quarter decrease was because the revenue sharing fees and other costs decreased generally in line with a decrease of audio entertainment revenue. And we skipped our incentive program in February 2020, which led to a decrease in revenue sharing fees for content…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Okay. So our first question today comes from VW from Citi. Please ask your question.

Vicky Wei

Analyst

Good morning, management. Thanks for taking my questions. I have two questions. The first is what does management think of the competition with other internet companies such as TME, which also introduced audio live streaming. What does it imply to the company user growth and retention of hosts? And my second question is about gross margin and revenue sharing ratio trend. We see that was gross margin in the second quarter has improved greatly from the first quarter. So management provides some color about the future margin trend. Thank you.

Marco Lai

Management

Okay. Yes. I'm Marco, and I'd like to help answer the first question about the competition and our Acting CFO Chengfang Lu will answer the second question about the margin trend. We have noticed with the recent initiatives of other players in the industry, including the TME in the audio entertainment sector, which indicates the chance that more and more people are like big companies are turning their attention to the audio entertainment market, including the growing impact of audio entertainment, as well as the increasing user demands in there. And so actually it has highly interactive product offerings and excessive content library. So like our users content community are built off of a long time of cultivation. As a result, we have built a stronger bond between users and the content creators, and relatively are higher thickness. So in addition, our content spans a wide variety of verticals such as life and relationships, talk shows and ACG which are very popular and very favored by younger generation on the platform. But our contents are not limited to these verticals. We will also continue our efforts to expand the content to run and explore more premium content for our users. So, in the long run, we believe our platform will deliver superior experiences to our users, and help creators showcase their talents and even can consider real income through our various tools and audio technology. So, we believe it will be appealed to most of the users who are in favor of audio content and enjoying interacting with others through voice. So, for us the competition with other players is about like two critical areas, meeting user demand and attracting while empowering more content creators. These are two areas where we have been putting great efforts on and will continue to make progress. The total interactions in the second quarter of 2020 has reached 3.1 billion, so which indicates that our platform is highly interactive and highly favored by users. We will continue increasing user engagement, improving loyalty and stickiness through interactive features and innovative products, and ultimately enhancing the community ecosystem. In general, we are confident about the future, and we will continue our strategy and maintain the solid growth. Okay, so Chengfang will continue the second questions about the margin trend.

Chengfang Lu

Management

Okay. Thank you, Vicky. And let me take your second question. Yes, in the second quarter of 2020, our total revenue share fees were accounted 69% of our total revenue, representing a decrease of 500 basis points from last quarter. Accordingly, our non-GAAP gross margin increased to 26%, increased 500 basis points from last quarter. Yes, as discussed before, we have launched an incentive program, with additional revenue share fees in the third quarter of 2019 to attract more content creators. And this stimulates the content creation. We have seen positive progress on the growth of our content creator base and improvement on content quality. As stated, we have more than 6 million active content creators on our platform. But beginning from last quarter, we are adjusting the incentive program by scaling down the revenue sharing proportion, and motivating the content creators through mix the measures instead of cash bonus owning, such as more exposure, professional coaching, et cetera. Besides our incentive programs were more associated with [indiscernible] the content quality not just related to revenue. Looking forward, we will continue to support our content creators from multi dimension, and may adjust our incentive program from time-to-time. We expect to maintain a relatively stable revenue sharing proportion in the second-half of this year, and further improve our gross margin through expanding our massive long-term content creators and developing diversified products and features. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Okay. Your next question comes from Vincent Yu from Needham & Company. Please ask your question, Vincent.

Vincent Yu

Analyst

Sure. Thank you, management. Thanks for taking my question. I have three questions. First question is about the podcast. So, we noticed podcast has become quite popular in the marketplace as the leading UGC audio platform. Are we planning like capitalize or monetize on the growing content of this content pool? Any progress we have made or we are going to make, such as adding ads to podcasts or anything we can share on the monetization? Second question is on the celebrity or content provider you have mentioned earlier in the remarks. So do we tend to sign exclusive contracts with some of the popular podcasts content providers on the platform? And my third question is in terms of user retention rates, any color you can provide on the user retention rates?

Unidentified Company Representative

Management

So we've seen like lot more tension in the podcasts industry. So when Lizhi have been founded, or quite to like everyone is podcast creator. So as a leading UGC audio platform, we think podcasts is a very important part for our platform. And we are always committed to supporting the original content. As we understand, the high-quality podcast is a crucial competency for us to attract more users. So currently the podcasts are becoming increasingly popular in response to the growing user base - user demand, actually. So meanwhile, content creators now have more opportunities to present themselves. So in the future, we plan to further enhance the content creation and duration and help users to discover more high-quality content, through like AI-recommendation engine. We will continue discovering content creators and encourage them to create content, and further expanding our content library, as well as to speed up the growth of like medium to long-tail content creators into the middle or top creators. So, of course, we also plan to help podcast creators achieve considerable income through our commercialization efforts on the podcast, as we also noticed that in China now there is no like direct commercialization model for podcast creators currently. So, in the future commercialization opportunity on the podcast business can be brought in three major aspects. Firstly, about the paid content, we believe users are willing to pay for high-quality content. So, we aim to boost the creation of high-quality and premium audio content and focus on some key verticals and further assisting our paid content creators in growing their audience base with the support of more tactics and exposure and ultimately increasing the theme ratio. Secondly, is the advertising. So, with the massive user base, we are able to continue expanding our advertising businesses, and…

Chengfang Lu

Management

Okay, I will take the question about our user retention rates. Yes. In the second quarter of 2020 our net month retention rates of active users on our platform remain stable at 67%. I believe it is a relatively high level. And in the third quarter, we will continue expanding the content verticals, improving content quality and encouraging user engagement. And we believe we are able to maintain this high level of retention rate in the second-half of this year. That's all. Thank you.

Vincent Yu

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Your next question comes from the line of Ivy Lu [ph] from Credit Suisse. Please ask your question, Ivy.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I'll quickly translate myself. So my question is, can management share some color on the current user growth strategies, as well as the strategy to further grow the paying user base. Thank you.

Marco Lai

Management

Okay. There are two questions. One is about the user growth strategy and another one is about the paying behaviors. I will take the first one and Chengfang will continue with the second question. So, we focus on the high-quality, original content, strong community atmosphere, and creating interactive features as a core to attract more users. With our massive content library pace, which also bring more user growth in pace. So our strategy is to attracting more users through the boosting the creation and curation of high-quality content. In bunking up new content hosted by celebrities, entertainers, and KOLs in the second quarter. Lizhi have operated with a number of celebrities, entertainers and brands through our platform. These celebrities and entertainers can share their life communicating with their fan base and interacting with other users through diverse audio content and various entertainment features. For example, we host a special program cooperated with the popular show, the second season of [indiscernible] which introduces a number of talk shows about the story, pitching the [indiscernible] and their music. So all our talk show is the famous music start [indiscernible] has reached a total of 3 million fans exposure we have admitted on the platform. We have seen that with more high-quality content we are able to achieve more user engagement, besides we will continue optimizing and upgrading our social interaction tools to help users make friends with some interest, and meet their social interaction list and further improve user retention rate and users stickiness. More importantly, now we have 54.9 million MAUs on the platform. So these users are many young generation who enjoys sharing and social networking. Therefore, we have developed many creative features ultimately increased the sharing activities. For example, we have recently launched the audio based video sharing tool, which also attracts many users to create the podcasts and share the audio based short videos with their friends on others social media platform. And these activities have attracted more users with the same interest to join our platform, which have enhanced the more true-up cycle of the whole ecosystem.

Chengfang Lu

Management

Okay. Thank you, Marco. And I will take the question about our strategy to post paying behaviors. So as mentioned before, we are highly engaged and interactive UGC audio communities. So we put our paying behaviors mainly from two aspects, which are content and interaction. First interest of content through our cultivation program, recruit, nurture and expanding group of content creators and hosts while able to continually produce premium content. Thus we developed our distinctive content [indiscernible] by effective operations. I think it is helpful to attract more users and boost paying behaviors. For example, in the second quarter we have noted that our talk show vertical were highly waivered by young generation, where of our host [indiscernible] joined Lizhi in late March this year. Through our supporting and premium content operation by the end of the second quarter, he has gone to the top 30 place content on our platform, with high [indiscernible] 80%. We also launched numerous programs to discover and cultivate medium and long-term content creators, such as [indiscernible] discover plan and new voice Starwood [ph]. We also hosted many creative events including cooperation with number of popular shows to promote premium pay content to all users. The second effect is interaction. I think higher engagement and more interactive activities can effectively increase our users willing to pay. So we also focus on highly user engagement through diverse interactive products and features. For example, we launched a voice talent [indiscernible] and virtual guest option to increase user construction on our platform. We have also introduced [indiscernible] privilege plans and membership program to further strengthen the strong bonds between users and content creators on our platform. We are aiming to increase user retention rates and maintain sustainable consumption in the [indiscernible]. That's all. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Okay. And your final question, sorry, comes from Sarah Hu from Haitong International. Please ask your question.

Sarah Hu

Analyst

Thank you for taking my question. This is Sarah from Haitong International and asking questions on behalf of Steven Li. So my first question is can you please share your views on the existing competition in the audio industry? And my second question is how do you think the short video industry affects our business? For example, how much is our time they've taken off? And how they're going to look like in the long run? Thank you.

Marco Lai

Management

Firstly, I think Lizhi has gathered strong foothold with our unique competitive advantages. So currently, many other platforms, including some retail platforms rely more on the famous IP, a long-term audio content and audio books to attract users, which can be interpreted as a new model to monetize their current user base and traffic. So, at Lizhi, we put our main focus on UGC content spanning a wide array of content categories, which can meet the various demand of users. And this is quite different from the audio books. On the other hand, we are a community center. After years of cultivation, we've built a highly interactive targeted user base, and more socialized content creator base, and has increased the stickiness of users and the content creators to the platform. So turning to the competition on time spending with the short video platform. Previously, we've also received like similar questions before, as a few years ago, the short video platforms were quite popular in the industry. But actually, we are not in a direct competition with those short video platforms. We have different users [indiscernible] and user profiles. In Lizhi, we have more female users on the platform. And most of the users are from third tier or lower tier cities. We need to understand that these users have natural social needs with a strong desire for companionship, and audio can meet their demands well. Furthermore, we noticed that audio can also be adaptable to a wide range of user scenarios, like commuting, working or other small pieces of time. Specifically, some of the users are getting used to listening to the podcast after watching the short form video, and before they speak, to release their moods. Some would like to chat or socialize and seek companionship, via the audio on the platform. Therefore, we believe we are well-positioned in this industry to meet the market's growing demand, as we continue to add more new attractive content and cultivating more content creators, enhance the community atmosphere and further increase the user engagement.

Marco Lai

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

As there are no further questions now, I'd like to turn the call back over to the company for any closing remarks.

Chengfang Lu

Management

Thank you once again for joining us today. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact Lizhi's Investor Relations, through the contact information provided on our website at ir.lizhi.fm or the TPG Investor Relations. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the conference call. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.