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Senstar Technologies Ltd. (SNT)

Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Tue, May 31, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by. Welcome to Magal's first quarter 2016 results conference call. All participants are present in listen only mode. Following management's formal presentation instructions will be given for the question and answer session. As a reminder this conference is being recorded. You should have all received by now the company's press release. If you have not received it please contact Magal's Investor Relations team at GK Investor Relations or Buick in the news section of the company's website www.magal-s3.com. I would now like to hand the call over to Mr. Kenny Green of GK Investor Relations. Mr. Green please go ahead.

Kenny Green

Management

Thank you operator. I'd like to welcome all of you to Magal's first quarter 2016 conference call. I'd like to thank here everybody for joining this call and thank Magal's management for hosting this call. With us on the line today are Mr. Saar Koursh, CEO and Mr. Ilan Ovadia CFO. Saar will summarize the key highlights followed by Ilan who'll review Magal's financial performance of the quarter. We'll then open the call for the question and answer session. Before we start I'd like to point out that this conference call may contain projections or other forward looking statements regarding future events or the future performance of the company. These statements are only predictions and Magal cannot guarantee that they will in fact occur. Magal does not assume any obligation to update that information. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected including as a result of changing market trends, reduced demand and the competitive nature of the security systems industry as well as other risks identified in the documents filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. And with that I'd now like to hand the call over to Saar. Saar please go ahead.

Saar Koursh

Management

Thank you Kenny. I would like to thank you, I would like to welcome you all of you and thank you for joining us today. We reported a good first quarter which is always seasonally, the weakest for us. We are pleased with the year-over-year revenue growth at 7% to 12.6 million, but we are especially happy with the operating profitability up 1,623,000 [ph] a solid improvement compared with a loss of 1.2 million in the first quarter of the last year. Our flat level of operating expense compared with last year, as well with our high level of gross margins contributed to this improvement in operating income. The financial expense were high in this quarter, which led to a net loss, this was mainly due to a change in both Israeli shekel and the Canadian dollar exchange rate against the U.S. dollar at the end of the quarter. The gross margin adjusted of 50% was primarily because of a revenue mix in the quarter, favored product in services sales of a projects, as this tends to have better margins. As you may remember, it is our long term strategy to strengthen our products and services sales, while this is an ongoing process and will indeed take time, the goal is that our product revenue will become a larger portion of our overall mix, which will up our profitability and lower the volatility in our revenue due to the reliance on projects. In near [ph] term, the typical gross margin range should be expected in the mid-40s, which is slightly ahead although what we have seen in the past three years. Looking more broadly at our strategy as you know just after the close of the quarter, Senstar our fully on subsidiary acquired a Canadian video measurement software company called…

Ilan Ovadia

Management

Thanks. Revenues for the first quarter of 2016 was $12.6 million, this was 7% above those of the first quarter last year. Sales by geography in the quarter were as follows. Israel 19%, North America 34%, Africa 9%, Europe 10%, South and Latin America 3% and the rest of the world amounted to 25%. Gross profit in the quarter was $6.2 million or 49.6% of revenues. These grew 40% compared with $4.4 million or 37.7% of revenues in the first quarter of last year. The gross margin is a function of revenue mix in the quarter with several products and services of our project in the first quarter of 2016. Our operating expenses in the quarter amounted to $5.6 million in the quarter almost flat compared with the $5.6 million reported in the first quarter of last year. Operating income in the quarter was $0.6 million compared with operating loss of $1.2 million in the first quarter of last year. Financial expenses in the quarter amounted to $0.9 million compared with a financial income of $0.7 million in the first quarter of last year. As I explained earlier the financial expenses reflect mainly the change in both Israeli shekel and Canadian dollar exchange rates against the US dollar at the end of the quarter. Net loss in the quarter was $0.5 million or $0.03 per share at the same level as the first quarter last year at $0.5 million and $0.03 per share. We reported a positive operating cash flow of $5 million in the quarter. Cash, short term depositor, sleeper [ph] deposits, net of bank debt as of March 31st 2016 were $37.5 million or $2.30 per share, compared with a cash and short term deposit net of current bank debt was $31.1 million or $1.90 per share at December 31, 2016. That concludes my remarks, we would be happy to take your questions now. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instruction] The first question is from Sam Rebotsky of SER. Please go ahead.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

So at the backlog, what is the backlog compared to the same time last year and the previous quarter? And with these additional contracts, is this approved and do this contracts expected to be include -- completed during this current calendar year?

Saar Koursh

Management

The backlog is indeed is better than the same period last year. Related to your second question, as we already mentioned I think in our last press release on the presence, we are expecting execution of the projects that will last both in 2016 and 2017.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Are we able to quantify the dollar amounts of these backlogs?

Saar Koursh

Management

For this specific project or you are talking --.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

No just your total backlog, in other words, what it is compared to the backlog at the end of December compared to what it is now and what it was last year?

Saar Koursh

Management

As you know we are not giving backlog information, basically due to the different wait between project and product. Backlog is indeed an extremely important factor when talking on the project side of the business. But it's almost irrelevant related to the product side of the business. So I don’t want to give a number since our portion of the product versus projects is changing as wee just discussed over the call.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Okay, are we bidding on more jobs, could you sort of indicate on its quantity or the extent of our bids or how much higher -- how many more bids there are today compared to the previous quarter and the same time last year?

Saar Koursh

Management

I think the most important question is if we are selective in our bidding and we are trying to be selective and to win as much projects as we can. And when we are bidding, as you know some of the bidding are very costly process and you don’t want to bid on this one that you are going to lose. So once again if I think that we will able to gain more business than last year, defiantly this is the goal, but it's too early to say if it's -- that will be reflected in the financial of the 2016.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

And the success, are you 90% successful on what you bid, could you sort of give a percentage?

Saar Koursh

Management

No, no it's a -- I think as far as I know and maybe the only company worldwide that is have something in the ratio of 90% in project is Lockheed Martin.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Okay.

Saar Koursh

Management

Usually 90% of no bids of the entire projects that they are bidding. So no company in the security business is even close to that.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

So is there a range on your success rates?

Saar Koursh

Management

Of course.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Say 50 to 75.

Saar Koursh

Management

It's less than that.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Okay, okay. And then one thing you are impacted with the currency where last year they were increased, there was a gain, now the way the currency is today would your numbers be for both U.S. and Canada, would the numbers be more of a loss, less of loss I don’t know what the numbers are, I mean I'm not good at this currency change. Where are they today compared to the end of March.

Saar Koursh

Management

Do you mean last year results with the --.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

No just till March of the current year, in other words the current quarter that you just reported, you reported a loss on the currency compared to the currency gain last year at the same time. But what I'm -- has the currency gone where there are smaller losses or gains now as of today or are they still -- are the losses increasing, if you were to do transactions.

Saar Koursh

Management

That depends of course in the trend of the currencies, compared to last year the currencies are not in favor of us.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Alright, hopefully with these new businesses that you're involved you can get more business and report some better profits. Your operating margins improved considering your sales were up and your costs were down hopefully that will continue. Okay, good luck.

Saar Koursh

Management

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no more further questions at this time. Before I ask Mr. Koursh to go ahead with the closing statement I would like to remind participants that a replay of this call will be available in three hours on Magal's website www.magal-s3.com. Mr. Koursh would you like to make your concluding statement.

Saar Koursh

Management

On behalf of the management of Magal I would like to thank you for your continued interest and long term support of our business I look forward talking with you all next quarter, have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, this concludes the Magal Security Systems first quarter 2016 results conference call, thank you for your participation you may go ahead and disconnect.