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Syndax Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (SNDX)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Fri, Mar 8, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Syndax Fourth Quarter and end of the year 2018 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference may be recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Melissa Forst with Argot Partners. Please go ahead.

Melissa Forst

Analyst

Thank you. Welcome, and thank you to those of you joining us today for Syndax's fourth quarter and 2018 full year financial and operating results conference call. Joining us this afternoon for prepared remarks will be Dr. Briggs Morrison, Chief Executive Officer; and Rick Shea, Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us on the call today for the question-and-answer session are Michael Metzger, President and Chief Operating Officer; Dr. Michael Meyers, Chief Medical Officer and Dr. Peter Ordentlich, Chief Scientific Officer. This call is being accompanied by a slide deck that has been posted on the company's website, so I'd please ask that you turn to the forward-looking statements on Slide 2. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that any statements made during this call that are not historical is considered to be forward-looking in nature for the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these statements as a result of various factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors section of the company's most recent annual report on Form 10-K as well as other reports filed with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements represent the company's views as of today, March 7, 2019, only. A replay of this call will be available on the company's website www.syndax.com following the call. And with that, I am please turn the call over to Dr. Morrison.

Briggs Morrison

Analyst

Thank you very much, Melissa. And thank you to everyone who is joining us on today's call and webcast. As we closed out 2018 and entered 2019, we took the time to look back in what this management team has accomplished over the past 3.5 years. Our goal has been to build a pipeline of opportunities that will allow us to reach our mission, that will allow us to realize a future in which people with cancer live longer and better than ever before. And as we were closing out 2018, we concluded that we have too many opportunities for our company of our size and resources. And so through conversations with physicians, scientists, advisers and members of our board, we've prioritized our portfolio. The work was difficult. We've had many passionate advocates inside and outside our company for every one of our active programs, and we believe that all are active programs have potential to benefit patients. And yet, we had to choose the ones we thought had the most potential. Today I'm going to share with you the results of that prioritization effort and explain our reasoning. Slide 3 provides a high-level summary of our prioritization effort. As we progress through 2019, we'll be focusing our resources on 2 incredibly exciting opportunities. First, we are anticipating a positive readout of E2112, our Phase III trial of entinostat in hormone receptor positive breast cancer; and a subsequent filing of our first NDA and a corresponding launch of our first product. I would emphasize that a positive OS trial in hormone receptor positive HER2- breast cancer would be a landmark result that will be transformative for Syndax and its shareholders. We believe the entinostat opportunity in hormone receptor positive breast cancer carries blockbuster potential. This is an important opportunity for…

Richard Shea

Analyst

Thank you, Briggs. The results of our operations in Q4 full year 2018 and the comparison to the prior year periods are included in our press release, so I won't repeat them in these remarks. Additional financial details are available in our Form 10-K, which we have just filed this afternoon. Turning to Slide 14, we ended 2018 with $80.9 million in cash and 26.8 million shares outstanding. The net change in cash for Q4 was a decrease of $8.7 million. The operating cash burn of $14.8 million was offset by $6.1 million of net proceeds from our ATM, and we currently have $31 million available to [sell off] the ATM. Looking ahead, Slide 14 shows our updated financial guidance for both Q1 and for the full year of 2019. For the first quarter of 2019, we expect R&D expenses to be $11 million to $13 million and total operating expenses to be $15 million to $17 million, which includes approximately $1.5 million of noncash stock compensation expense. For full year 2019, we expect R&D expenses of $46 million to $50 million and total operating expenses of $60 million to $64 million. Operating expenses for 2019 are expected to include noncash stock compensation expense of $6 million and interest income runs approximately $2 million, so our net cash burn for 2019 is expected to be $52 million to $56 million. This projected cash burn for 2019 is approximately $8 million lower than our previous guidance due to the pause in initiating entinostat I/O registration studies in either non-small cell lung cancer or in melanoma, as Briggs discussed, and to further focusing our operating activities on our highest priority programs. Our current cash, along with reduced spending, will allow us to operate the company to achieve key milestones for our prioritized programs, specifically OS results for E2112 and early proof of concept for SNDX-5613, our targeted menin inhibitor. So now I'll turn the call back over to Briggs.

Briggs Morrison

Analyst

Thanks, very much, Rick. I would like to close our call with a clear summary of our company priorities. We believe that a positive OS result in 2112 will be transformative for Syndax and creates significant shareholder value. Although we believe that a positive OS readout for E2112 could occur by the end of this year, we are prepared for a potential later final readout in mid-2020. We're also very excited about the prospects for SNDX-5613, our menin MLLr inhibitor. We expect that the molecule could have single-agent activity, and it's quite possible that we could observe clinical activity early in the clinical development path, again, unlocking significant value for Syndax. We are prepared to get through the initial proof of concept data from this program, which could take us into mid- to late 2020. We remain extreme excited about our data in lung cancer and melanoma. Updates from both of those programs will be the subject of oral presentations at AACR. And we believe it is prudent to pause our further development spending in I/O until such time that we receive the positive results of E2112. Rick has outlined our financing plans, and we want investors to be clear that we are not currently forecasting registration programs in lung cancer or melanoma in our financial guidance. For SNDX-6352, we remain on track to select and recommend a Phase II dose in solid tumors in the second quarter of this year and anticipate having initial efficacy data in chronic GVHD later in the year. Finally, we continue to aggressively look for additional molecules or technologies to bring into our portfolio. I believe we have a proven track record of delivering on this pillar of our strategy, and I believe this is a core strength of our company. As always I would like to thank the team here at Syndax, our collaborators and most importantly the patients, trial sites and investigators involved with our clinical program. With that, I'd like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Christopher Marai with Nomura Instinet.

Christopher Marai

Analyst

I was wondering if you could help elaborate a little bit on the recommended Phase II dose data that we might be seeing for 6352 in combo with PD-L1. What other data are you going to provide there beyond a recommended Phase II dose? Will you also look at target engagement measures, other measures around sort of the -- like I said, patient tumor microenvironment, et cetera? And then I have a follow-up.

Briggs Morrison

Analyst

Right. So Chris, this is Briggs. It's the -- I think you've probably seen some of the PK/PD data that we presented from the normal healthy volunteers. We'll be confirming that in the combination trials with PD-1 and the recommended Phase II dose. So I think that's the main.

Richard Shea

Analyst

And Chris, this is something -- we'll certainly be presenting data on both PK as well as important PD parameters, such as CSF-1 levels, IL34 levels, target engagement, monocyte depletion. Those will all go in predetermination of what the appropriate RP2 data is.

Christopher Marai

Analyst

Great, got it. That's very helpful. And then I guess just another one, if I may. Regarding the path forward for some of those entinostat I/O programs, I understand the whole point of -- look, I guess that's sort of pending the results of entinostat in breast cancer. In the event that entinostat does not produce an OS result in breast cancer, would you be open to reopening -- reevaluating these programs and entinostat specifically in the I/O programs or not? How should we sort of think about that?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst

Yes. So I think Chris, our base assumption is that based on the strong Phase II data, that 2112 will be positive. So we haven't really given too much guidance around what would happen if that wasn't the case and what we would do with the I/O program.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Chris Shibutani with Cowen.

Chris Shibutani

Analyst · Cowen.

For 5613, I look forward to you guys introducing that into the clinic. Can you help us a little bit frame the opportunity? In particular you talked about potential best-in-class and the options of treatment. So could you just give us a sense for the MLL-rearranged as well as the NPM1 leukemias? What kind of percentage we believe of the AML population these may be? And then when you're thinking about the initial monotherapy use, on what line or what stage of clinical treatment are these patients that you're thinking about in this initial Phase I/II work that you're doing?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Cowen.

Chris, so again, I think you nicely laid out there essentially 3 different populations that we've been talking about. There's MLLr, rearranged leukemias that occur in kids, which is generally ALL. And then there's the mixed-lineage leukemias that occur in adults, which is roughly -- which is generally AML. For the pediatric ALL, the worldwide incidence is probably about 1,000 patients a year, about 10% of ALL. If you've ever heard of an infant being born with ALL, about 80% of those are these MLLr, rearranged leakemia. So that's the pediatric ALL. In adult AML, it's about 6% to 10% of AML, about 5,000 patients a year. The NPM1 mutant population represents about 1/3 of all AML, so that gives you some rough numbers around the size of the opportunity. In terms of the patient population that we would study, of course, we'll be studying relapsed/refractory patients in, again, pediatric MLLr rearranged leukemias, adult MLLr rearranged leukemias and adult NPM1 leukemias.

Chris Shibutani

Analyst · Cowen.

So you make 2 statements on Slide #9, potential best-in-class. Can you help us understand what data you've seen so far, be it preclinical or anything early, that would support how you're defining that? And then with fast to market, we're certainly seeing in the AML so much development of novel treatments over the last 3 or 5 years or so. Can you talk about standard screening protocols? So in existence already are these mutations that are being screened for?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Cowen.

Sure. So again, we think -- we're only aware of one other molecule that is approaching the clinic for this particular target. We really like our molecule. We think it's very clean, very specific, very potent, and hence, the hypothesis that it could be best-in-class. I think that -- what was your second question?

Chris Shibutani

Analyst · Cowen.

So potential fast to market. Can you talk about standards of screening. Is that what it is today?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Cowen.

Yes. So I think the short answer is yes. NPM1 mutations are standardly screened for -- in patients with leukemia. And the MLLr, again, it's a chromosomal rearrangement, so whether you do even just a chromosomal spread or you do [most] specifically for, these are identified today. So what we've heard from all of our investigators, again, these will relapsed/refractory patients, but they know at a time the patients are diagnosed that they have these genetic lesions. And so we don't think we'll have much problem identifying the patients that would be candidates for our therapy.

Chris Shibutani

Analyst · Cowen.

And in terms of the background therapies, the potential monotherapy benefit, would we assume that these patients are not getting some of the standard, for instance, 7+3 chemo in the AML setting? Or just clarify a little bit more what you mean by monotherapy.

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Cowen.

Sure. Right. So this would be relapsed/refractory patients. So both for AML, we would anticipate that they would have been treated with 7 and 3. And for the MLLr AML, they tend not to stay in remission very long, so they will have a relapse. We wouldn't be at all surprised if they had received other therapies that are available, whether it's a [3] inhibitor, venetoclax, the things that are around for AML. So that's all up to the physician. They could come in just having relapsed from their 7 and 3 or some re-induction regimen, but they would be relapsed/refractory patients. And again, I think from a single-agent point of view, it's really what we're looking for is clinical activity at the single-agent in patients who have relapsed/refractory disease. Not that different from what I think Agios had with their IDH1 inhibitor.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Robert Hazlett with BTIG.

Jake Colby

Analyst · BTIG.

This is actually Jake Colby on the line for Bert. I was wondering, what will really give you the confidence to resume development of entinostat PD-1 combinations?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · BTIG.

Yes. So Jake, thanks very much for your question. This is really a sort of prioritization effort given the resources that we have available to us. So it's not that we don't have confidence. And as I said, it's kind of interesting that we have 2 oral presentations at AACR. So obviously, the organizers there thought that we had some pretty interesting data. So it's not that we don't have confidence. It's really just our prioritization around our resources. So I'd say when 2112 is positive, if we had more resources, we would go back and revisit these potential investments. But at this point, they're not in our financial guidance.

Jake Colby

Analyst · BTIG.

Great. Okay, that's helpful. And I guess on SNDX-5613, how should we think about kind of trial size and maybe any other kind of comments you can make on potential trial design here? And then how would you define showing proof of concept for the program?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · BTIG.

Sure. But I won't say too much more about the details of the trial. I think after the IND is approved and we have a clear agreed-upon detailed trial design, then we'll talk more about it. I think in the AML space, the standard definition of efficacy is a complete response, so we're looking for patients to have complete responses for their AML. And again, I think if you look at the Agios story, it's a good surrogate for the kind of program we'd like to envision.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of David Lebowitz with Morgan Stanley.

David Lebowitz

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Would you be able to, I guess, help run us through the reason why the entinostat PD-1 combos might work in inflamed tumors in a better way than excluded versus non-inflamed?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes. David, thanks very much for the question. I'll let Peter Ordentlich take that question, our Chief Scientific Officer. Peter?

Peter Ordentlich

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes, thanks for that question. So we think based on what we've learned, and we'll actually show some of this at AACR, that there's some pre-existing priming or some type of immune activity required in order to see benefit with entinostat. And based on some of the gene expression work that we've done, particularly in the lung cancer cohort, we have some better understanding of what some of those resistance pathways may be and some of -- the way that entinostat may be able to inhibit those. And it just seems that in these harder-to-treat tumors, where the immune activity in general seems to be low, like ovarian and triple negative, we just may not have that pre-existing signal for which entinostat may be able to work on. I think that's reflected by the relatively low efficacy of the immune checkpoints overall in those types of tumors. So I think it's a combination of existing resistance pathways that entinostat can target as well as some pre-existing immune reactivity.

David Lebowitz

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

And I guess, could you -- if you could just run us back through -- I know E2112 OS is coming up on the next analysis. Based on what occurred in the Phase II trial, what is, I guess, a similar timeframe that as far OS analysis, that the Phase III could theoretically conclude?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes. So I think briefly, the trial could conclude at this upcoming readout in May or it may require going to the full 410 event. I think we're at that point in the evolution of the trial. Remember that there are also futility analyses, which the trial has continued to progress. So based upon that, it could be as early as May or it may take to the final 410 event.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Joel Beatty with Citi.

Joel Beatty

Analyst · Citi.

The first one is about the focus of your pipeline. It looks like based on the press release, the emphasis is on E2112 trial as well as the Menin program. And then I noticed that CSF-1 program is not on that list. So could you help us understand the difference in focus you see from the early-stage CSF-1R program compared with your focus on the Menin program?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Citi.

Joel, thank you so much for the question. Again, I think when we look at the -- we like both programs. The CSF-1R program, the single-agent work being done in GVHD will continue. There's not really new work that we or new resources we have to dedicate to that program. It doesn't -- it's not a large burn of our existing resources. I think as we gear up for 5613, that is new resources that we want to make sure we have in place and that people have a focus. And again, as I sort of indicated in my prepared remarks, these diseases that are driven by chromosomal translocations tend to be quite fruitful, so we just want to really make sure we keep our focus on the Menin program. I think if we see activity in GVHD, we'll, again, reevaluate the prioritization. I think the prioritization work that we do is ongoing constantly as new data becomes available. So I think that might help you in thinking about the decisions we've made.

Joel Beatty

Analyst · Citi.

I appreciate it. And another program on the E2112 trial, still some uncertainty on when it will read out. And I imagine that part of what affects that is the P-values that are remaining when compared with what's already then spent. Can you help us understand that and how -- what P also is left and how [is it] among the remaining potential readouts?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Citi.

Yes. I don't think we've ever disclosed how the P-value gets -- what the thresholds are at each of the interim analyses. What we can say is that the -- you may remember the trial was set up where .002 of the alpha went to PFS, 0.48 goes to OS. There's a very small amount of alpha that's spent on each of the interim, but we've never talked about what the actual threshold is through each of those interims.

Joel Beatty

Analyst · Citi.

Okay, got it. Then maybe one last question, on partnering. It sounds like it's still an important focus for looking for additional assets. Could you help us maybe just on a high level on what you're looking for? What will make one potential asset more attractive than another?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · Citi.

Yes. So I always joke with my team that the only molecules you want in life are the ones that work. So if it works, we'd be interested in it. So I think we're -- we have sort of a prioritization list on sort of how we think about different molecules and sort of interestingly, we set that prioritization list up a number of years ago when we first joined the company. And tumors that are driven by chromosomal rearrangements and no infusion proteins is actually #1 on our list, and that's why we're so excited when the Menin program became available. So there are a variety of targets that we would be interested in. But I don't think I'd say much more than that.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Madhu Kumar with RW Baird.

Madhu Kumar

Analyst · RW Baird.

So first one, thinking about E2112. So you've previously talked about preclinical data for CDK4/6 drug, their indiscernible] not affecting entinostat/exemestane response on this. So kind of thinking about the flip side, have you examined whether later line chemotherapies in HR-positive breast cancer respond differently after entinostat plus exemestane? Should it be worse than exemestane alone?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · RW Baird.

I don't think -- Peter, I don't think (inaudible) will be able to look at that from the Phase II fixed data. And I don't know, either Peter or Michael, if you know the answer to that.

Peter Ordentlich

Analyst · RW Baird.

We didn't -- preclinically though, the experiment hasn't been done as to what happens to those types of therapies after treatment with entinostat in the Phase II clinical trial. That was looked at in terms of the balance of the immediate posttreatment as well as overall posttreatment therapies, and those were quite well balanced. But the actual response to those individual therapies was not captured. So we don't know how they did. We just know what they got.

Madhu Kumar

Analyst · RW Baird.

Okay. Then thinking about SNDX-5613, a really kind of simple basic science question. What does the [indiscernible] MLL1 interaction do in normal tissues? And does that biology inform potentially relevant PD biomarkers?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · RW Baird.

Yes. So MLL1 actually is not that -- the normal MLL1 protein is not that widely expressed in adult tissues. It tends to be -- it's found in embryonic hematopoiesis. So that actually is one of the other reasons why there may be some specificity here because the amino-terminus interaction with menin, at least the MLL1 interaction, you don't see very much in adult tissues.

Madhu Kumar

Analyst · RW Baird.

Okay. So then kind of based on the known kind of interaction base transcriptional effects, is there anything that biology can inform kind of a good biomarker to show the drugs hitting the target in patients?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · RW Baird.

Yes. Maybe Peter, do you want to talk a little bit about that?

Peter Ordentlich

Analyst · RW Baird.

Yes, I'm happy to. It's a great question and one, obviously, that we're interested in. And there's been some very nice work published both with menin inhibitors as well as knockdowns of MLL1 or deletions of the N-terminus. And those all point to certain gene expression signatures, of which several are highlighted and published on the haux [ph] and the MACE 1 [ph] Others involved in hematopoietic differentiation. And so those all potentially represent genes of interest to look at as well as differentiation markers as well as a chromatin modifications that are mediated by these complexes. But obviously, it's a good question and one that's top of our mind as we set up the development to look for these types of assays.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Harshita Polishetty with B. Riley FBR.

Harshita Polishetty

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

So in regards to your menin inhibitor, as a follow-up to the questions that have been asked, this has been historically difficult to target due to the protein-protein interaction. Briggs, you touched up on the (inaudible) of this molecule in the opening remarks as well as the market opportunity in earlier questions? But I wanted to kind of take a step back and was hoping to gain further insight on the historic failures and challenges of targeting menin and how 5613 addresses these challenges. And if you have any early insights on the differences between yours and [cure's] candidate.

Briggs Morrison

Analyst · B. Riley FBR.

Harshita, thanks very much for your question. I will say when I first heard about the program, so they told me they had a small molecule that disrupted protein-protein interactions, I was as skeptical as you are. Obviously, it's not a very standard thing. What's interesting here is that there are nice crystal structures of the actual amino-terminus of MLL1 binding to menin. It turns out to be a very small 4 or 5 amino acid contiguous segment that sits in the pocket of menin, so it's been well-characterized at the crystal structure level. And it turns out to be highly druggable. So I think it is, and again, we'll be happy to send you some of the references. I think it is one of those "protein-protein interactions" that actually are eminently druggable, and I think we have very good preclinical data to show that. I think the question on how our drug molecule compares to the [cure] molecule, we don't know exactly which molecule they are taking to the clinic, so I think it's a little premature for us to comment on that. We really like our molecule. We're excited about the program. We'll surely, of course, be watching them carefully, but I think at this stage, it's a little bit hard to know how to compare them.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is a follow-up question from Christopher Marai with Nomura Instinet.

Christopher Marai

Analyst

Just on the menin program, I was wondering, obviously, given the pediatric population that's impacted by these diseases, what's your plan for bringing the molecule into kids versus adults? And how should we expect that to progress as you progress the compound for the clinic?

Briggs Morrison

Analyst

Yes. Chris, so we are extremely interested in the pediatric population. As I said, MLLr ALL is really an unfortunate disease for these little kids, and so we're working hard on pediatric formulation that will allow us to dose both kids and infants. And as part of our discussions, we're trying to lay out a plan that would allow us to move relatively rapidly and seamlessly from initial Phase I trials in adults into the pediatric population. We'll say more about that, of course, once the IND is approved, and we have an agreement from FDA on what that program will look like, but certainly, that's our anticipation at this point.

Operator

Operator

And I show no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Dr. Morrison for closing remarks.

Briggs Morrison

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much, everybody, for joining us on the call. If you have any additional questions, we'll be happy to take them, and we look forward to further communications from the company. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.