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NuScale Power Corporation (SMR)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 8, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to NuScale's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Results Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. All participants are in listen-only mode. After management's prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] A replay of today's conference call will be available and accessible on NuScale's website at ir.nuscalepower.com. The web replay will be available for 30 days following the earnings call. At this time, for opening remarks, I'd like to turn the call over to Scott Kozak, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Kozak.

Scott Kozak

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to NuScale's second quarter 2024 earnings results conference call. With us today are John Hopkins, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ramsey Hamady, Chief Financial Officer. On today's call, NuScale will provide an update on our business and discuss financial results. We will then open the phone lines for questions. This afternoon, we posted a set of supplemental slides on our Investor Relations website. As reflected in the Safe Harbor statements on Slide two, the information set forth in the presentation we discussed during the course of our remarks and the subsequent Q&A session includes forward-looking statements which reflect our current views of existing trends and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties. You can find a discussion of our risk factors which could potentially contribute to such differences in our SEC filings and Form 10-K for our fiscal year 2023 and in our prior SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to John Hopkins, NuScale's President and Chief Executive Officer. John?

John Hopkins

Analyst

Thank you, Scott, and good afternoon, everyone. To begin, I'll give an update on recent developments with the RoPower project as outlined on Slide three. In mid-July, SNN and RoPower were authorized to proceed with Phase 2 front-end engineering design or FEED. Later that month, NuScale attended a RoPower Fluor signing ceremony in Romania to announce the authorization to proceed on the contracting of Phase 2 FEED with the Doicesti between Fluor and RoPower. Along with the representatives from SNN, the Romanian government, and the U.S. Secretary of Energy, Jennifer Granholm. We are working as a subcontractor under Fluor to provide NuScale SMR power modules. Next, let's consider the current nuclear landscape and why we believe SMRs, especially NuScale, are well-positioned. As depicted on Slide four, today's environment is experiencing a surge in electricity demand while companies and governments seek to mitigate the production of emissions contributing to climate change. Nuclear energy is increasingly considered a secure energy solution to meet growing demand and achieve ambitious climate goals. Companies are pressured to source reliable energy while fulfilling their commitments to reduce emissions. They are concerned with having the energy to power their facilities and where that energy comes from, placing greater emphasis on decarbonized baseload energy. For instance, last month, Google reported that increased electricity demand driven by AI in its growing fleet of data centers caused the company's greenhouse gas emissions to grow 48% above its 2019 baseline, posing a challenge in meeting its carbon neutrality goals by 2030. The U.S. Department of Energy aims to triple nuclear capacity, adding 200 gigawatts to meet net zero emission goals by 2050. Nuclear energy is a valuable asset in the context of the global energy transition because it is a sustainable solution that operates reliably. This combination does not exist with…

Ramsey Hamady

Analyst

Thank you, John, and hello, everyone. Our financial results are available in our filings, so my focus will be on explaining major line items. Please Slide 8 for second quarter results and relevant factors impacting our financial position. All figures following are for Q2 2024, unless I say otherwise. NuScale's overall cash position was virtually unchanged during the period, ending the second quarter with cash and equivalents of $136 million, 5.1 of which is restricted, and no debt. This compares the cash and equivalents of $137.1 million, 5.1 of which was restricted, and no debt at the end of the prior quarter. For the quarter ending June 30, 2024, NuScale reported revenue of $1 million and a net loss of $74.4 million. This includes a non-cash expense of $36.7 million related to an increase in the fair value warrants outstanding. During the same period in the prior year, the company reported revenue of $5.8 million and a net loss of $29.7 million. During the current quarter, we reported an operating loss of $41.9 million, compared to an operating loss of $56.1 million in the second quarter of 2023. This year-over-year reduction in quarterly operating expense of $14.2 million reflects the company's successful efforts to reduce expenses and operate more efficiently. Subsequent to the second quarter of 2024, the company executed a revenue-generating agreement in relation to the advancement of the Doicesti Project, being Phase 2. Over the next 12 months, we anticipate additional revenue from Fluor Corporation in respect of our continued contributions towards this project. Looking forward, we continue to be focused on managing liquidity and risk and remaining good stewards of shareholder capital. I will conclude my remarks with a brief view of our capitalization summary on Slide 9. Additional information may be found in our SEC Form 10-Q and earnings release. With that, I'd like to thank you again for joining today and for your continued support of NuScale. We'll now take questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of George Gianarikas with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

George Gianarikas

Analyst

Maybe if you could provide us a little bit more color on your discussions with some of the data center companies, the hyperscalers. To the extent there are bottlenecks in the deployment of your reactors, is it possibly due to the fact that there aren't independent third parties who are willing to provide the risk capital and maybe own the reactor? To what extent can ENTRA1 play a role in helping to fill that void? Thank you.

John Hopkins

Analyst

This is John. I've often stated in your spot on in your comment, we have the technology, we have the capacity to execute. What's been missing in this industry is the so-called developer you just mentioned. We've been working close to two years now with ENTRA1 on the development of a model of how to approach customers that you commented on, like the AI centers and data centers and industrials. These particular industries, they need 24/7 clean energy. They just don't necessarily want to own the nuclear asset. What they would like to do is have somebody provide them a build-own transfer or a build-own model where they provide the long-term PPAs required and our global developer partner helps bring the financing and the ability to do that build-own or build-own transfer.

George Gianarikas

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. Maybe as a follow-up, can you maybe comment on any momentum? You did make some comments on what's happening in the U.K., but outside of the U.K., any highlights, any momentum maybe in other geographies in Europe and Asia? Thank you.

John Hopkins

Analyst

We're seeing significant interest. A lot of it in Central Eastern Europe is driven by energy security as well as climate disruption. Romania is a good case in point. The Romanian project, we've been working with the Romanian government for quite some time. As I commented, Fluor Corporation will be the prime contractor or the subcontractor for that project, which will bring in our power modules to the rural power project. That's the one that's most furthest along in Eastern Europe or Central Europe, but we're also in discussions with other countries because, again, it's the same comment as I said before. They need clean, 24/7 reliable energy. The whole market is starting to resonate after COP28, COP29 with the advanced act that we hear on urbanization. That's a very key piece because it allows a regulatory cooperation between a country's regulatory entity working with our NRC. We're pretty bullish on what we're seeing in the market overall. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Mark Bianchi with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Marc Bianchi

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Thank you. A lot of talk about data centers the last couple of quarters here, not just from you guys, but we hear it everywhere you look in the market. What's the timeline to get a project announced?

John Hopkins

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Mark, this is John. We're working hard with both our customer and our developer. As you know, these are pretty complicated transactions and they just take time. We're in almost daily, not weekly, communications trying to drive closure to some of these projects. We're as anxious as you are.

Marc Bianchi

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Okay. On Romania, it's nice to see moving to Phase 2 FEED here. What's the timeline for that process? When will we expect to hear more about that?

John Hopkins

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

We actually kick off our initial alignment section next week with the customer Fluor Corporation and NuScale to start the process, and, as you said, the scheduling of starting and commencing that. The overall effort for the FEED Phase 2 will take approximately 12 months to complete. We're really looking forward to working with both our customer in Fluor Corporation on advancing this project.

Marc Bianchi

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

The revenue that you talked about in the slides and in the comments is related specifically to the Phase 2 FEED. It would seem that way if you're talking about the next 12 months. And then, any steer you can give us on the magnitude of opportunity there?

Ramsey Hamady

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Marc, this is Ramsey. How are you doing?

Marc Bianchi

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Good. Thank you.

Ramsey Hamady

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Good. I'm very well, thanks. I'm glad you're asking about this because I remember back in, I think we first met in October last year and talked about during our Investor Day in New York and talked about the business model. I think what this highlights very importantly is that our business model, as we outlined it, included revenues from services and technology, pre-COD revenues, and not just from the hardware of the reactors. This is a great example of the fact that we're generating revenue pre-COD. I think that's important for us to note. In terms of the magnitude, Marc, I know it's been tough with me not providing guidance on earnings or on magnitude of revenues, and we're still not doing that yet. I think once we have a couple more projects in the pocket and we have more visibility, we're going to start doing that. For right now, we're going to stay away from providing guidance.

Marc Bianchi

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Yes. Okay. Maybe to ask you another number question. Can you say what cash from operations was in the quarter? I know we'll get it in the Q, but just so that we could frame a discussion about where that might go.

Ramsey Hamady

Analyst · TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Yes, absolutely. Look, I'll focus on OpEx. I'm going to go on a look-back basis, Marc, versus a look-forward basis. Here's some guidance I think I can offer. Over the three quarters, let's say Q2 '23 to Q4 '23, NuScale was averaging about, let's say, $74 million in OpEx. If I take out CFPP, it was probably around $56 million, $57 million. When we did our RIF back in January, we announced in a press release, we said we're realizing savings of $50 million , $60 million. I just had my team doing the analysis. And then, we started to realize those savings. So we've gone down from OpEx around $55 million to OpEx that averaged $43 million over the last two quarters. So I think that's a great achievement for us. That's delivering on what we said we were going to deliver, which is real prudence in terms of our expenses and cost savings to our shareholders.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Just to follow up on RoPower, could you remind us what the next steps are beyond FEED Phase 2 and the potential timing around those next steps?

John Hopkins

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

I'm sorry. I was on mute. This is John again. As I commented, we completed the preliminary FEED, and it was very successful. This next phase, as we said, is the front-end engineering design. The engineering design approach is to control our project expenses and go through this next year to finalize, to go into the final approval by the Romanian government for the next phase of the project, which would be to move forward on the complete project itself. So the FEED package for us and for Fluor Corporation, as we stated, we're providing the engineering deliverables for our piece of it to Fluor. Fluor is the designated EPC on the project, if that helps.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks, John.

John Hopkins

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

The duration of this, we kick-off hopefully next week. It's about a 12-month program.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Would you expect revenue to start contributing in 3Q related here?

Ramsey Hamady

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

I'll answer that, Ryan. Yes. We signed a revenue-generating contract. I don't want to make any statements around GAAP revenue just in terms of recognition until we actually book that, but we did sign a revenue-generating contract.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks Ramsey. And then just one more, I guess. Can you talk about the competitive landscape today, not only on the SMR and nuclear side, but when you're talking to data center customers and others, are you also competing against other types of technologies?

John Hopkins

Analyst · B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

The customers who we're talking with right now, some of them will probably put out an RFP that would involve other technologies. It depends on what they're asking for, but a lot of conversations that we are engaged with right now, it's really about, as I commented before, the ability to bring the BOT model and the BOO model. We've yet to see another developer of the magnitude that we're seeing here with the Tier-1 banks that we're working with coming forward with that similar type model. We hear discussion about it that at this point, the competition, as you know, as I commented before, we are going through our power upgrade, but we did get through the licensing process, and as far as I know, no other U.S.-based technology anyway has completed the design certification application for the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that completes the question-and-answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to NuScale CEO, John Hopkins for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

John Hopkins

Analyst

Thank you, operator. NuScale, again, with our strategic partner, ENTRA1 Energy, is executing, we believe, a very robust project development pipeline and are prepared to deliver with industry-leading manufacturing readiness. We believe we're well positioned to commercialize the NuScale SMR technology. We're very pleased with our progress and remain steadfastly focused on our goals. And I'd like to thank everybody for participating today. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect.