Greetings, and welcome to The Simply Good Foods Company Fiscal First Quarter 2022 call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host Mr. Mark Pogharian. Thank you. You may begin.

Thank you, operator. Good morning. I am pleased to welcome you to The Simply Good Foods Company earnings call for the first quarter ended November 27, 2021. Joe Scalzo, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Todd Cunfer, Chief Financial Officer, will provide you with an overview of results, which will then be followed by a Q&A session. The company issued its earnings release this morning at approximately 7 AM Eastern Time. A copy of the release and accompanying presentation are available under the Investors section of the company's website at www.thesimplygoodfoodscompany.com. This call is being webcast, and an archive of today's remarks will also be available. During the course of today's call, management will make forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. The company undertakes no obligation to update these statements based on subsequent events. A detailed listing of such risks and uncertainties can be found in today's press release and in the company's SEC filings. Note that on today's call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures that we believe will provide useful information for investors. Due to the company's asset-light strong cash flow business model, we evaluate our performance on an adjusted basis as it relates to EBITDA and diluted EPS. We have included a detailed reconciliation from GAAP to adjusted items in today's press release. We believe these adjusted measures are a key indicator of the underlying performance of the business. The presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. Please refer to today's press release for a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Joe Scalzo, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Thank you, Mark. Good morning and thank you for joining us. Today, I'll recap Simply Good Foods' first quarter results and provide you with some details on the performance of our brands. Then Todd will discuss our financial results in a bit more detail before we wrap it up with a discussion of our outlook and your questions. We had a good start to the fiscal year as our first quarter results continued our strong business momentum. First quarter net sales, gross profit, and adjusted EBITDA, all increased double-digits on a percentage basis versus last year and were slightly better than our expectations. Net sales increased 21.7%, driven primarily by volume. Additionally, we estimate that our September 15 price increase was about a mid-single-digit percentage point benefit to the total net sales growth. Year over year increase in net sales benefited from improvements in consumer mobility and shopper traffic versus last year's COVID-19 restrictions. This resulted in retail takeaways slightly greater than our estimates due to growing household penetration from our marketing investments, improved distribution, and new product innovation. Note that the impact of pricing is expected to be a greater contribution to growth over the remainder of the year. Total Simply Good Foods first quarter retail takeaway increased 18.7% in the U.S. measured channels of IRI MULO and Convenience Stores. First quarter net sales growth was slightly greater than consumption due to the timing of shipments at the end of last quarter and the typical seasonal inventory build related to distribution gains and New Year's retail programming. Adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter increased 34.7% to $65.6 million, primarily due to the solid sales growth, Quest acquisition synergies, and G&A leverage. This more than offset higher marketing investment. Gross margin increased 70 basis points versus the year ago period.…

Thank you, Joe and good morning everyone. I will begin with a review of our net sales. Total Simply Good Foods' first quarter net sales increased 21.7% to $281 million. North American net sales increased 24.5% and was primarily driven by volume. As Joe stated, due to the timing and implementation of the previously announced price increase, we estimate pricing was a mid-single-digit percentage point benefit to total net sales growth. Therefore pricing will be a greater contribution to sales growth over the remainder of the year. The International business declined 27.3% due to the European business exit. Core International net sales growth was 3% and the European business exit was a 1.6 percentage point headwind to total company sales growth. Moving on to other P&L items, gross profit was $116.6 million, an increase of 23.9%. Gross Margin of 41.4% increased 70 basis points versus the year ago period. As expected, supply chain cost inflation was a headwind this quarter. However, it was more than offset by the previously mentioned price increase, lower trade promotion, favorable product and customer channel mix, and carryover coverage of select raw materials. As Joe mentioned, we anticipate significant supply chain inflation in fiscal 2022 due to higher costs related to raw materials, packaging and logistics. Pricing and cost savings programs are in place to help offset these costs. Adjusted EBITDA increased 34.7% to $65.6 million due to the higher sales and G&A leverage. Selling and marketing expense increased 21.2% to $30.5 million driven by higher brand building initiatives on both brands. Due to a large ramp up of marketing expense in the second half of fiscal 2021, the majority of the increase in the fiscal 2022 marketing accrual will occur in the first half of the year. G&A expense, excluding Quest integration cost, restructuring…

Thanks, Todd. Our strong first quarter results are a good start to the year. Retail takeaway trends remain solid and we have marketing, customer programming and new product plans in place to continue to drive growth. This gives us confidence to increase our full year net sales and adjusted EBITDA outlook versus our previous estimate. Note that our forecast does not assume any meaningful changes in workplace mobility. Looking at the key metrics of our updated full year fiscal 2022 outlook, we expect net sales to increase 12% to 14% versus last year and this includes a 1 percentage point headwind related to the European business exit. As I stated earlier, higher supply chain costs versus our previous outlook, driven mostly by ingredients remains a headwind in 2022 and will result in full year gross margin contraction of about 250 basis points with the biggest impact in the second and third quarter. Adjusted EBITDA is anticipated to increase slightly less than the net sales growth rate. We continue to expect that marketing expense will increase versus last year, although at a lower rate than the net sales increase. Additionally, we anticipate benefiting from significant SG&A leverage. And the decline in interest expense should result in an increase of adjusted diluted EPS greater than the adjusted EBITDA growth rate. We anticipate the net sales growth in the first half of the year will be stronger than the second half as the year-over-year comparisons are significantly more difficult as we proceed through the year. Additionally, we expect our retail takeaway growth rate in the second quarter of fiscal 2022 to be similar to the first quarter and due to higher cost, we expect Q2 adjusted EBITDA growth will be less than the net sales growth rate. We're excited about the growth opportunities that exist within our business in this category. We're executing against our strategies, and increasing household penetration that is resulting in solid sales and earnings growth. Our strong balance sheet and cash flow generation enable us to invest in our business and evaluate M&A opportunities as a path to increasing shareholder value. We appreciate everyone's interest in our company and we're now available to take your questions.

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Chris Growe with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning, guys.

Good morning, Chris.

Good morning, Chris.

Good morning. I just had a question for you on this particular, a popular topic on many companies' calls, but inflation just seems to keep going and you took pricing and as a result, it's not totally offsetting the cost inflation, at least there's maybe some gross margin effect from that. I wonder if you could give me or if you could talk about the level of inflation you now expect? And then I guess, we're not looking for forward prospects here for pricing, but just in a world where you look to utilize the gross margin to reinvest back in the business, are you limited in that regard this year because of the gross margin outlook here for the business now?

Yes, so I'll take that one, Chris. So first of all, just to be clear, we are very comfortable with our ability to navigate the P&L, even with this incremental supply chain cost. As you've heard, we raised both our top and bottom line guidance, we feel terrific about that. Regarding levels of inflation, going into the year we kind of, yes, there was significant inflation with a significant price increase and the inflation that we were seeing was probably high single digits, it's now increased to kind of low double digits for our total business. So that's -- that's the new outlook for commodity costs, so it is significant. We love the shape of our P&L. We love our ability to invest in our business. You can count on us to increase marketing in this year. It may not be at the same level of growth rate that we've done in the previous years. As you know, we've increased marketing substantially well ahead of net sales over the last several years. So we're close to 10% of net sales from a marketing investment, which we feel great about. We'll increase it. It may not be at the level and the growth rate we've done in the past, but you can expect us to continue to invest in our business.

And just to be clear on that Todd is, do you have better visibility on those input costs, should you have more coverage I guess is the question that would allow you to have the comfort in that?

Yes. And so we're about 75% coverage for this year, so we do have a little bit of exposure, a little bit risk to the rest of the year. But again, we do have levers in our P&L to manage that. We're very, very comfortable. And obviously, if this thing continues to linger, we will not hesitate to take some additional pricing action.

Okay. And I had just one quick follow up on the Atkins brand. It sounds like buy rate is mostly unchanged. It's just more buyers. Is that -- was there any measurable change in that sequentially from the fourth quarter?

Now, we're still -- Chris, we're still seeing what we've been experiencing, which is strong interest in the brand, evidence in the number of buyers participating, so we continue to see growth in buyers. And the bar form in particular for Atkins, the number of snacking occasions of bars is being impacted negatively by people not being back at work. Now, the good news is, as we mentioned, in our prepared comments, our kind of all other forms non-shake, non-bar business is doing really well. Those are incremental consumption occasions, highly less correlated to being at work and that's starting to pick up some of the slack from a buy rate standpoint.

Okay, thanks so much for your time.

Thank you. Our next question comes from line of Jason English with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning folks. A couple of quick questions. First, quick back of the envelope math, it looks like you're cutting your gross profit forecast for the full year by around 2%. A, is this correct? And B, with EBITDA actually moving higher in context of gross profit and being lower where are the offsets?

Yes, so I think your math is generally correct. So first of all, we have significant G&A leverage in our P&L. The good news is, when you're taking the volume up, not only do you get obviously incremental profits on the volume, but from a percentage basis, from a margin perspective, you get a nice kicker at the EBITDA margin line with G&A flat to growing very modestly for the year. And then as I talked about with Chris Growe’s question, look, we're going to increase marketing. We have the ability to toggle that back as, depending on where we see the gross margin come in, it will be an increase this year, but we're still at a very healthy level of marketing. So we have the ability to have some more modest increases in marketing if necessary.

So to put a finer point on your answer Todd, it sounds like you're planning to spend less marketing than you initially planned coming into the year. Did I hear that correctly?

Probably a little bit, depending on how the year plays out. Yes, our initial guidance when we were having 8% to 10% net sales growth was for that to be basically in line, so implying kind of a high single digit growth initially, it's probably going to be a bit lower than that.

Got it. And you sounded so confident on your gross margin outlook last year, it now -- here we are a few months later, and it looks back of the envelope like you are raising your ingredient forecast by 15% or so for the full year. What -- and we on the outside are looking at spot markets that look like a little up a little down but kind of just moving sideways. What's really caught you off guard, what changed so much over the last three months?

It’s Joe. Our original view of the marketplace was that it would not stay at the sustained high levels that we were experiencing as we moved into the year. And our view of it now is, looks like it's going to linger longer than what we expected. So it's not a matter of costs are going up. They're just not abating as what we expected. And frankly, that view is a pretty recent view. So we're starting to -- we're just starting the process of stepping back and say, okay, this is going to linger a while in our prepared comments. We said, kind of the second half of the year, we expect them to linger into the next fiscal year. What are our options and what are we going to do about it. And we've been pretty clear with the market from the very beginning. We think the shape of our P&L is a competitive advantage. Gross margins over 40%, marketing investment around 10%, EBITDA as a percent of sales around 20%. Right? So if these costs seem to be lingering, you can expect us to act in order to maintain our margin structure.

Got it. Understood, and congrats on the strong momentum by the way, I'll pass it on. Thank you.

Thank you, Jason.

Thank you. Our next question comes from line of Wendy Nicholson with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, my first question is just on the supply chain. In terms of your availability on the labor side, in terms of the work you have with the co-manufacturers, are you seeing any challenges? I know, you talked about strength in the Atkins shake business. Obviously, that's off a very low base, because it's a new product, but can you talk about bars versus shakes if you're seeing any specific challenges in getting product in the door?

Yes, Wendy good question. As we said in our prepared comments, our performance improved during the quarter. So we were below what -- our expectations on customer service and frankly, it was not one thing. So throughout the supply chain, we run into challenges from ability to get access to customers' docks to the ability to get products from co-man, the ability to get ingredients, to get products from co-man, pretty much you're playing supply chain whack-a-mole on a daily basis. That said, our supply chain team has done a particularly outstanding job in the first quarter of addressing those challenges, and improving our customer service such that when we exit the first quarter, we're getting pretty close to where we expect our customer service performance to be. So look, I don't -- are we out of the woods from a supply chain standpoint? No, I expect it will continue to be challenged on a daily basis with issues and nothing is smooth right now. But our team has shown the ability to manage through that and we're pretty confident.

And on the Atkins shake business, obviously, protein shakes, great category rapidly growing, but also very competitive. The Atkins brand obviously speaks for itself in terms of brand recognition, but just can you remind us kind of how is that positioned and how do you intend to kind of carve out a niche in what is a very crowded category right now?

Yes, so let me dispel that it's a category, it is not. So very unusual in this nutrition category, you got products and forms that don't compete with each other. So let me give you the simplest example. Ensure and Boost, high protein, low carbs and sugar, source interact very little with Atkins and Premier protein because the consumer benefit is fundamentally different. Consumer targets are different, consumer benefits are different. So if you try to group anything that's a shake, that's high protein, low carbs and low sugar together, you're actually making a mistake about how to think about the category. I think what's happening is, because people are home more, shakes are or they're more usage occasions of those shakes across the consumer targets and across the consumer benefits, I think you're seeing that. Second, if you can supply the product, you're getting preferential treatment among retailers, because you can get, you can service it, you can get display and keep your shelf stock. We've not had issues with our shake business and we're benefiting a little bit from that. But again, there's not a lot of interaction. It's very unusual. You've got identical products that do not interact with each other because their consumer targets and the benefits are so fundamentally different.

Fair enough. And then my last question, it was just one of the comments you made at the very beginning was about the shipments outpacing inventory a little bit in anticipation of sort of normal inventory build and New Year's promotions. But I guess my question is just in the first, you know, whatever, two weeks of the year with omicron and whatnot, are you seeing any delay in purchases, people going back to the stores and so I'm just wondering if there's that inventory build means there's going to be excess inventory on store shelves for some time to come.

Yes, I think our prepared comments to be clear, prepared comments had two factors in that first, we ended last year at a lower of trade inventory level than what we would have expected. And it had to do with our ability to flow products to customers, both on the customer side and our side. So we had some makeup to do in the quarter. And then second, you rightfully pointed out, the build up for merchandising at retail in New Years, really too early to call New Year's consumption yet right. So we haven't gotten that kind of first complete week of January from a POS standpoint. So it's hard to tell exactly what the consumer off take is going to be in New Year's.

Fair enough. Thanks.

Thank you, Wendy.

Yes.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kaumil Gajrawala with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, guys. Good morning. If I can follow up a little bit on the supply chain commentary you just made, do you have a sense or an idea on the impact it might have had on overall top line or was it as simple as just the customer service wasn't where you wanted it to be?

First quarter, again, ability to service the customer impacts your revenue when you are out of stock, right? So if you miss a sale, because somebody comes into a store, and you're out of stock, that's the challenge of the business. We had out of stocks in the first quarter. So we saw those as the quarter progressed steadily get better. So obviously, we're a little bit more optimistic. Our service is better, out of stocks are being reduced, the ability to flow product to the shelf is smoother than it was as we went into the quarter. That's all good news.

Okay, great. And then, to talk a little bit more on household penetration in the context of market share, you benefited from mobility, but you've benefited from a lot of brand momentum recently, as well. Since you're in so many categories, it's a little difficult for us from the outside to get a good sense on where the share trends look, I would anticipate they're up nicely. But if you could give any more context or color on where you sit in terms of share in the context of how you look at your brands?

Yes, so we maybe it would be helpful, sounds like you may be sub segmenting the brands by form. It will be our strong recommendation that you look at sub segments of weight management for Atkins, regardless of form. And on Quest, regardless of form active nutrition, which would include brands like Premier protein, to name a few. Right? So in both of those segments, Atkins has outperformed the weight management segment, and Quest has outperformed the active nutrition segment and that's what we track. There's so much interaction within our brands within the forms. It is more accurate to take a brand view, therefore a brand consumer benefit view than it is trying to sub segment chips, and cookies, and shakes, and bars, because the brand will interact so much within those, you get a false read of what's really going on. To give you an example, the highest interaction of Atkins meal bars is Atkins shakes. So if we're on a roll on shakes, because of innovation, because of merchandising, because of good communication, we see an impact in our meal bar business and vice versa. So look at the brand from a consumer benefit, weight management, active nutrition, and evaluate the total brand against those segments. And what you'll see is we've been steadily growing share in both of those sub segments.

Useful. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alexia Howard with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, everyone.

Good morning.

Hi, Alexia.

Hi, so this going into this year, I know we're entering the second quarter for you guys now, but the level of uncertainty is unprecedented, just given the pandemic, given the input cost inflation and all the other moving pieces, supply chain disruption and so on. If you had to rank order from here, what the key sort of uncertainties are in terms of risks and opportunities, given the changing guidance that we've just seen from you, how would you rank order the things that you don't know or that you don't have visibility into from here? Thank you and I have a follow up.

That's a killer question Alexia. What keeps me up at night? Alright, so I think any change to consumer mobility and shopping behavior, that would be the first. Right? We saw at the beginning of the pandemic that led to huge levels of volatility from a consumption standpoint. If you remember, the early stages consumption spiked, and then it declined and shopper traffic was down and channel mix changed. So if you were looking at risks to the business, the Omicron, the Omicron variants impact on people shopping behaviors, and their mobility, are they out and about or is life at least reasonably similar the one it's been in this kind of post-COVID consumer mobility world, that would be the first. I think the second in our business is, we took a price increase on September 15, for the most part doesn't start really to hit the shelves until early November. So retailers don't move price that quickly. So we don't really have a lot of data on the impact on volume of the price increase. So that's the second half of the year risk, I think. So that one keeps me up a little bit. And then I think third, just in general, we know we're going to be chasing supply chain challenges for the year. Right? So our ability to be responsive to those challenges, and our team has done a phenomenal job, but they are playing whack-a-mole every day. Right? And they're chasing issues that you typically don't deal with in a year. Nothing's flowing steadily. So, our customer service has gotten significantly better, but like a duck on the water looks smooth, but we're working really hard to make that happen. I would say in the cost environment, I think we -- the absolute price has been pretty steady. I think somebody said that in their comments. So for us now it's how long as it going to linger and then what do we want to do about it? So I'm less concerned about, I'm less concerned about the price because it appears to have plateaued. The fundamental question is, how long is it going to be around and then how do we address it going forward?

Makes perfect sense thanks, and thank you so much. Just a real quick follow up. You mentioned favorable mix in the press release this morning. What is that attributable to and how long is it likely to continue?

Yes, I mean during COVID, during the heights of COVID, both -- on both brands, the bar business really suffered. And now that we're getting back to somewhat normal consumer behavior, the bar business, particularly on the Quest side has rebounded really nicely. And also from a customer standpoint, you're getting a better balance between brick and mortar and E-comm. The C-Store business on the Quest side has had a tremendous last couple of months here and those are all positive things from a mix perspective for us.

Perfect, thank you so much. I'll pass it on.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rob Dickerson with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Great, thanks so much. First, quick question, just the top line guide obviously, implies deceleration year-over-year relative to Q1, and then realize that second half would likely grow more slowly than the first half, just in terms of Q2. Joe, I guess, and Todd too just given your comments, it sounds like you have hedged a bit, so to speak in terms of some elasticity risk for Q2, and then also there's the implied kind of roll off of the inventory build benefits. So I'm just curious, as we say, Q2 year-over-year top line relative to Q1, is there any kind of expectation for an increase in pricing given the timing and the pricing you've already implemented? And then two, on the volume side is there anything in there that could decelerate a bit outside of just the inventory built benefits you got in Q1? Thanks. I have a quick followup.

So I mean, yes, so I mean, you saw the POS growth in the first quarter, and really total consumption was in that 18% to 19% range, which is obviously, we're very pleased about. And when we said in our comment is, we think that's going to be about the same in Q2, and we shipped a little bit of ahead of consumption, some of that was just getting inventory back on the shelves from what was going on during the summer period and so we obviously shipped a bit ahead of consumption. Our comments are -- we're going -- POS consumption is going to be about the same. It's always a little bit of a wild card where the inventory is going to fall as we end the quarter, but we're kind of in that high teens 20% kind of consumption rate we feel comfortable about. What -- where net sales exactly falls depending on where shipments are, it's always hard to tell within a couple of points, but we think the POS will be very, very consistent. And then as you get into the second half, obviously first half of last year we grew 1% to 2%. Second half of last year, we grew 25%. So we're lapping much more challenging numbers. And then as Joe pointed out, with the last question, we still have noise around pricing elasticity, around consumer mobility. So, we are playing potentially a little bit of conservative second half assumptions here, but we have a much more difficult lap in the second half.

Yes the thing is, I think it's a little deceptive is, second half growth rate starts to step down relative to the first half. We're really confident in our ability to grow the top line, the absolute dollar sales is a manifestation of the year ago comparison to the second half year, not our ability to grow the business, we're very confident in that. And we feel like we've got the products, the marketing, the programming at retail, to continue to draw, drive, strong dollar sales. So we're very confident in that.

Fair enough. And then just quickly on the incremental pricing commentary, it would seem as if just kind of given the timing of your fiscal year, if you were to implement incremental pricing at retail and just given kind of the lag of announcement relative to when it hits the shelf, it would seem like that could be maybe kind of a late fiscal 2022 event if needed, but probably higher probability that kind of rolls into 2023, is that fair?

When you, maybe this will be helpful, Rob. When you make the decision, the price takes you three or four months to execute it with customers. So the minute you pull the trigger, it's three to four months before you can execute and then from a retailer standpoint, another few months for them to reflect it at shelf, so there's a delay to that. And again, as I mentioned in one of the previous to more on the previous questions, our view of the lingering cost is a recent one, so we're just starting to evaluate our options right now.

Got it. All right, great. Thanks a lot.

Thanks, Rob.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bienvenu with Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, thanks. Good morning. I want to follow up on the revenue side of the equation. You talked about among the potential risks outside of your control, one of which being consumer ability. When you think about your ability to mitigate those risks and thinking about innovation as a growth driver, and your ability to price, how comfortable do you feel in terms of the elements that are within your control to help mitigate any risk associated with external factors that are out of your control?

Yes, great question. I think too, there's two risks that people lock up at home or don't want to go into stores. Right? Those are the two risks, I think. So when they lock up at home, their snacking occasions change, right? So for us, probably the single biggest mitigator has been the growth in all other forms. So and what I mean by that is on both brands we have a bar business and a shake business, which I think is the center of the fairway core business for us. Right? And as we've noted in our commentary with Atkins that bars especially for Atkins highly correlate to being at work and being in transit. The nice thing that we've learned as we've launched into cookies, chips and confections is they don't correlate to location at all. So our ability to grow those is a nice hedge against the risks that we see in consumption on bars if people would kind of go back to staying at home and not going out. The second factor is shopping behavior. If you remember the earliest, I mean, it's been two years but if you remember the earliest behaviors, people stopped shopping and limited the number of retail outlets they were going to. Best hedge there has been ecommerce business, so the major brick and mortar retailers have accelerated their ecommerce business, both ordering online and having it delivered as well as pickup and delivery. So they combined with Amazon is a natural hedge to peoples shopping behavior and retail doors changing. So we feel like yes, there's a risk out there. Probably going to be transient, but we've had some natural hedges to offset those challenges, still keeps me up at night, though.

Okay, that's great, thanks. My second question is a follow up on cost. You talked about, I think 75% of your exposure is covered. Could you discuss is that uniform across the year or would it be, would the nature of that be that you're fully covered for the next several quarters and more exposed for maybe the fourth quarter? And then within that coverage where are the buckets of leases versus most coverage?

Yes, we'd rather not get into that level of specificity. There are, to answer your question broadly, there are some commodities where we are covered for the entire year. There are some commodities, and some more minor ingredients where we might be only covered for 50% to 60% of the year, so it's not uniform. But again, I don't want to get, for competitive reasons I don't want to get into specifics. But, 75% of the year, there's not a huge difference between the commodities, but there are some commodities that we are fully covered on.

Okay, fair enough. Thanks so much, and best of luck with the rest of the year.

Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve powers with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Hey, thanks. Good morning, guys.

Good morning.

Hi, Steve.

I guess, as you think about the cadence of fiscal 2022, from a gross margin perspective, I guess I'm trying to get a better feel for your anticipated exit rate on gross margin into 2023. It seems like there's a there's a sure hit to come versus prior expectations in the next couple of quarters. But I guess I'm less clear where your guidance and current forecasts have you exiting 2022 versus three months ago, and where you want to be, because as you said earlier that 40% plus gross margin is a big part of your P&L advantage. So as we step away from that the next couple of quarters, I guess, how much progress can we expect to make back towards that, towards that ambition by year end?

Yes. So as we mentioned earlier, it's, we're going to obviously start to see the hit pretty significant here, hit here in Q2. Q3 will be the toughest comp for us, not only from a 2022 cost perspective, but if you remember Q3 last year, we just had a blowout gross margin expansion, just kind of everything was clicking 140 basis points of gross margin expansion even despite a pretty difficult environment. So that's going to be a tough lap. We saw costs start to rise in Q4 of last year a bit, still had gross margin expansion. So, again, we are not completely covered for the year and obviously, a lot of things can change in the next six to nine months. But, we should start to see gross margin degradation be a little bit less severe as we go into Q4. It really depends on where commodities are for the end of the year, it really depends on whether we take any very specific actions, but it should be better in Q4. And if it's, as we've said several times here on the call, if things are not where we want it to be, you can be rest assured we will take some action that will either start to impact Q4 or more importantly impact 2023.

Yes, okay. But I guess from a, just a, what's embedded in your outlook, I guess the year-over-year dynamics because of the comps, but sequentially are you going to take a big step down in 2Q and then kind of go sideways for the next three quarters or do you expect to see sequential improvement in gross margin given the levers?

Yes, it will be -- again, it depends how everything plays out. It will be fairly as we get into Q3, and Q4, those gross margins will be relatively the same from an absolute basis year-over-year. there will be some obviously changes, just we said, but the absolute gross margins to be relatively equal in Q3 and Q4.

Okay, fair enough. And I guess if I could just totally different topic, is any comments on the M&A landscape in terms of opportunities crossing your desk, as well as any change in your appetite to entertain deals, just given the uncertainty you're facing, we've been talking about for the last, almost hour?

The pretty busy environment with a lot of opportunity and as we've stated on a number of occasions, sellers have frothy expectations and buyers need to be aware.

Okay.

So we continue to evaluate complementary brands to our portfolio and we like to think of ourselves as value buyers. So we're looking for, we're looking for assets of decent size, given the size of our portfolio, the number of brands and the size of those brands. We need to understand the consumer promise as part of that, have a pretty good understanding of who the consumer target is, and our ability to more effectively market that brand to that consumer target in order to grow it. And obviously, we have supply chain synergies, a strong selling organization that we could add a brand to the bag too and accelerate. But for the most part, you're looking for strong consumer brands that are complementary to our portfolio today. Those are out there and you just, you continue to have to chase them to see if you can get a business at a decent value.

I appreciate it, Joe. Thanks a lot.

All right. Have a good day.

Thank you. Our next question comes from line of Pamela Kaufman with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning.

Good morning.

I know that it's a very dynamic environment, but I was curious if you're observing any changes in demand from the recent renewed rise in COVID cases? And would you expect any short term headwinds from changes in consumer mobility? And what if anything, have you factored into your outlook from Omicron?

Yes, we've not, first prepared remarks, we've not factored any changes either positive or negative from a demand standpoint. So our view is, it remains where it is. Omicron has been a recent phenomenon. If you think about it last month, it was in South Africa, now it's 95% of the cases in the United States. So it's a little too early to call. We're not seeing dramatic foot traffic changes. We're not seeing dramatic changes in consumption behavior or apparently movement, but you have to keep your eyes open this thing is pretty dynamic and pretty volatile.

Okay. And then I have a broader question on Quest. Quest has seen very strong growth over the last several years. How are you thinking about the midterm growth rates for the brand and what do you see as the key drivers? How much would you expect to come from increasing household penetration versus distribution expansion, innovation?

Yes, well, let me define it. Let me tell you how we think about it and then it might be give you some insights, right? So for us, the key metric from a marketing standpoint is household penetration. All the other factors are derivative factors to help that. So share of voice of marketing, whitespace from a distribution standpoint, product innovation, all accelerates our ability to drive household penetration. So the Quest brand has benefited in the last call a year or so from two big factors. Factor number one has been the bar business has started to recover from COVID confinement, and in particular channel has helped that the brand could we have a big C-store business, small format business. That team has done a phenomenal job at kick starting as foot traffic has improved they are kick starting the bar business for Quest. So you're seeing a rebound in bars, which is 60% of the Quest business. So that's been a big factor for us. The second is kind of all other forms what Mark calls the snackier portion of the Quest portfolio, all have done with the exception of our RTD business for Quest, all of the snackier portion of the portfolio has done extremely well. Cookies continue to grow. Chips, we've been supply constrained the demand has been so strong. Confections have done extremely well. Those have driven oversized growth rates in the business. I think collectively in our prepared remarks up 100% year-on-year. You're not going to law [ph] of large numbers will eventually affect the growth rate. But we would expect Quest to continue to outperform the sub segment of the category, the active nutrition category that they're in on a sustainable basis.

Thank you. And then just a quick question on pricing. So pricing was a mid-single-digit benefit in the quarter, but you indicated that it should continue to build over the course of the year. So how should we think about the magnitude of contribution from pricing over the remainder of the year?

Yes, we took a price increase that averaged about 7.5% to 8% and because of the timing of the price increase, we didn't get the full benefit in Q1 only, around 5%, 6%. So we'll get an extra two points from pricing now, that's the good news. The question is, what's the impact on volume and elasticity is, but from a pure pricing perspective, we will get an extra two points for the remainder of the year.

Thank you. That's helpful.

Thank you. Our next question comes from line of Eric Larson with Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Thanks, guys and congrats on a good quarter. So Joe, I just want to dial back to the kind of the category growth, this whole nutrition category, you folks in your sub segments are outperforming your peers, but in the first quarter, and maybe this is just a timing issue and what happened a year ago, and maybe these numbers really aren't all that important from one quarter perspective, but what segments of the nutritional snacking category are actually growing faster than you? And maybe it's not sub segments, maybe it's a, what value proposition segments are growing faster and are they sustainable? What -- I mean, how are you looking at the total category?

Yes, you hit it right on the nose. We don't compete and we see the category in three pieces; active nutrition with Quest, Premier protein, a number of brands, weight management with Atkins and then we see nutritious bars CLIF, KIND, as the third segment. That category is experiencing right now against very easy comparables, strong growth. So it is along with active nutrition is outperforming weight management on a year-over-year basis. That will moderate as the comparables get more challenging. Right? So bars really got slammed in COVID. So the nutritious bar segment is comping some easy comps. They'll get difficult as you move through the year. We're really comfortable overall, if you look at the total category, we're comfortable we can outperform the total category in any one quarter, half year, given what's been going on in COVID you may see some segments outperformed some other segments. But over the long term, we're pretty comfortable on our ability to outperform the total category.

Yes, got it. So it's just a comp issue and it's just a lot of noise in the quarter, and that will kind of fly – that will work its way out over the next two to three or four quarters. So thanks Joe. I appreciate the comments.

You're welcome. Looking into your stacks right now is a very useful exercise. You drive yourself crazy with your ego.

Yes, I agree. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our time allowed for questions. I'll now turn the floor back to Mr. Scalzo for any final comments.

Yes, thanks for your participation on today's call and the terrific questions. We hope you continue to remain safe and we look forward to updating you on our second quarter results in April. Have a good day.

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