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Q1 2013 Earnings Call· Tue, Oct 23, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Super Micro Computer Inc. First Quarter Fiscal 2013 Conference Call. The company's news release issued earlier today is available from its website at www.supermicro.com. In addition, during today's call the company will refer to a slide presentation that it has made available to participants, which can be accessed in a downloadable PDF format on its website at www.supermicro.com in the Investor Relations section under the Events & Presentations tab. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded Tuesday, October 23, 2012. A replay of the call will be accessible until midnight November 6 by dialing 1 (877) 870-5176 and entering conference ID number 8555814. International callers should dial 1 (858) 384-5517. With us today are Charles Liang, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Howard Hideshima, Chief Financial Officer and Perry Hayes, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. And now, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Hayes. Mr. Hayes, please go ahead, sir.

Perry Hayes

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Good afternoon, and thank you for attending Super Micro's conference call on financial results for the first quarter fiscal year 2013, which ended September 30, 2012. Before I begin, I'd like to advise you of upcoming investor conferences in which Super Micro will be participating. On November 13, we will present at Wunderlich's conference at the supercomputing show in Salt Lake City and on November 15, we will attend the Southwest IDEAS Conference in Dallas where we will present and participate in one-on-one meetings. By now you should have received a copy of today's news release that was distributed at the close of regular trading and is available on the company's website. As a reminder, during today's call the company will refer to a presentation that is available to participants in the Investor Relations section of the company's website under the Events & Presentations tab. Please turn to Slide 2. Before we start I'll remind you that our remarks include forward-looking statements. There are a number of risk factors that could cause Super Micro's future results to differ materially from our expectations. You can learn more about these risks in the press release we issued earlier this afternoon, our Form 10-K for fiscal 2012 and our other SEC filings. All of those documents are available from the Investor Relations page of Super Micro's website at www.supermicro.com. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Most of today's presentation will refer to non-GAAP financial results and outlooks. For an explanation of our non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to slide 3 of this presentation or to our press release published earlier today. In addition, a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results is contained in today's press release and the supplemental information attached to today's presentation. I'll now turn the call over to Charles Liang, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Thank you, Perry, and good afternoon, everyone. Please turn to slide 4. First let me provide you with the highlights of our first quarter. Our first quarter revenue was $270.7 million, which is 9.2% higher year-over-year and 1.9% lower quarter-over-quarter. Non-GAAP net income was $3.1 million or 62.4% lower quarter-over-quarter and 70.9% lower compared to last year. Super Micro's non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.07 per diluted share compared to $0.18 last quarter or $0.24 last year. Slide 5 please. We are pleased that the revenue for quarter was up 7.2% from last year and down only slightly from our record last quarter despite the challenges from a weaker global economy. The demand environment was slower as customer were more cautious about IT spending. While there are IT projects in the prelim stage customer are delaying purchasing decisions until they have better visibility into the direction of macro economy. Given this environment our performance in this quarter indicates that our fundamental business model of offering the most innovative application optimized server and storage solutions remains popular in the market. More importantly, it allow us to continue to grow market share. Last quarter the margin was mainly affected by the significant drop in components pricing of hard disk drive and memory. With the slow economy, economy and supply imbalance price fail so the market look to low excess inventory at a lower cost. Although, we delivered near record high quantity of hard drive and memory bundled with our systems solutions, they are the key factors that negatively impact our net profit. We are focusing manpower on improving management of both our inventory as well as the component supply to react better to market condition. Let's review our revenue distribution of our business first -- our last quarter. Our server systems contributed…

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Thank you, Charles, and good afternoon, everyone. I will focus my remarks on earnings, gross margins, operating expenses and similar items on a non-GAAP basis which reflect adjustments to exclude stock-compensation expense. Reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP is included in the financial statements of the company in today's earnings release and in the supplemental detail in the slide presentation accompanying this conference call. Let me begin with the review of the first quarter's income statement. Please turn to slide number 8. Revenue was $270.7 million up 9.2% from the same quarter a year ago and down 1.9% sequentially. The increase in revenues from last year was primarily due to subsystems and accessories as well as a ramp of the Sandy Bridge solutions. The sequential decrease in revenue from last quarter was primarily due to seasonal weakness in the industry, concerns about the economy and the transition to Sandy Bridge at the end of the quarter. On a percentage basis MicroCloud and GPU were the fastest growing product lines from the prior quarter. We also saw a good ramp in Sandy Bridge products with an increase of 84% sequentially of Intel based revenue. Turning to product mix, the proportion of revenues from server systems was 39.5% of total revenues, which was comparable to the same quarter a year ago and a decrease from 44.6% last quarter. ASPs for servers was $2,000 per unit which is up from $1,700 last year and the same as $2,000 last quarter. We shipped approximately 55,000 servers in the first quarter and 1,036,000 subsystems and accessories. The decrease in server units resulted in part from some of our data center customers’ delay in transitioning to Sandy Bridge solutions. We continue to maintain a diverse revenue base with over 600 customers and none of these customers representing…

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Thank you, Howard. As Super Micro is coming to continue its growth pace even during the economically slow period, our competitive position with the industry's best of product especially with Fat Twin architecture have never been better. Our Asia facility will continue to be utilized at a greater degree to serve our Asian and European customers while improving our competitiveness in pricing. We are also committed to increase our profitability through better and more comprehensive customers and technical service, its hardware solutions and components management. Operator, at this time we are ready for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go first to Aaron Rakers with Stifel, Nicolaus.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

Howard, I want to understand a little bit better the discussion on the hard disk drive impact as well as memory impact on the gross margin. Correct me, I think you said 2/3 of the gross margin delta in the quarter was attributable to this, is that correct and therefore equating to about 165 basis points or is your guidance assuming with the pricing stabilizing that, that comes back into the model, how are you thinking about gross margin in that context in this current quarter?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Aaron, yes. I said in the call that basically -- you saw the decrease in margin of about 2.5% between quarters from 15.5% to about 13%. I said about 2% of that or over 2% of that was attributable to the hard disk drives and memory but not 2/3 but 2%.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

2 percentage points?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Yes.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

Okay. And your assumption that therefore you're implying that your gross margin this quarter given that that's stabilized now that you've been able to possibly readjust those pricing with your suppliers that you're assuming that we get back to a 15% level in the current quarter?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

I have not -- I've said that our current month it looks stable right now. So it looks stable. However it's really early in the quarter. Aaron, so we’ve tempered our forecast with some of that. Because again if price decreases happen again and again, we're still susceptible to that in our inventories. If price is maintained stable, we're going to be okay and then if prices go up, we may see some benefits. So again it's very early in the quarter. We're seeing stability right now but again it's very early in the quarter.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

Yes, I hate to come back to it but stable in your model -- would stable mean that, that gross margin impact last quarter comes back to you?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

In a way, yes but again we've tempered it in our forecast.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

Okay, and then the follow-up question, just remind us again your situation as far as the hard disk drive supply agreement, where does that stand? I think last quarter it was $223 million. Where does that stand currently? Maybe you can give us some color on how we should think about that in the context of pricing with those suppliers?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Yes, right now at the end of the quarter, it stands at about $180 million. And there's a 2-year agreement that runs through March 2014.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

And that -- that has some pricing negotiation to it?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Yes, it does.

Operator

Operator

And now we'll hear from Mark Kelleher with Dougherty & Company.

Mark Kelleher

Analyst · Dougherty & Company

I'm just going to continue right on with that line of thought there. If we take the 2 points and put it back and let's say we didn't have the hard disk drive problem, we'd still be down about 200 basis points from last year. And we had Romley ramping up. We had a much better utilization of the Taiwan manufacturing facility. I would imagine those 2 things would be helping. So I'm just trying to figure out where the steady state gross margin number should be? I mean, are we now looking at 15%, 16% as the number? And can you still get back to the high-teens where you thought you could get maybe 6 months ago?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · Dougherty & Company

Let me take, Mark. So if we go back to prior to let's say all of those hard disk drive and memory stuff happening, probably about 3 quarters ago, you will see that we were probably about 16% to 17% as far as the gross margin is concerned. And so in the prior quarter -- in the June quarter, we said that of that 1.5% decline, majority of that was caused by the hard disk drive and memory and then this quarter I have said that over 2% basically has been caused by the hard disk drive and memory. So you will see a total of around approximately at least 3% caused by hard disk drives and memory over the last couple of quarters, right? As we work our way through the agreements and improve our vendor relationships and work it, we're hopeful that we can get that back so that -- again we can get back to that place where we started off about 6 months ago, 9 months ago, back to the 16% to 17%. And then you are right. We do have the other things that should be adding to our gross margins which is the Romley launch coming on board and us increasing our Taiwan facility utilization and then also obviously increasing our product mix with servers and software and support services. So those things are still working and they're going on. I think we just need to work our way through the hard disk drives and memory.

Mark Kelleher

Analyst · Dougherty & Company

So there's really 3.5 points that could come back in a stable pricing environment plus the shift back to Romley, the products back to, not necessarily Romley, but the servers, shift back to servers should help that gross margin?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · Dougherty & Company

Yes, certainly that's the impact that we saw coming back from that steady -- let's say that state about 6 months ago.

Mark Kelleher

Analyst · Dougherty & Company

Is there any thought of having to take a write-down to that inventory?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · Dougherty & Company

We've taken our lower costs to our markets to some extent during prior periods. Okay. So we have taken that as the market prices dropped or, and the cost is taken. So we have taken some of those write-downs already.

Operator

Operator

Now we'll go to Sterne Agee's Alex Kurtz.

Amelia Harris

Analyst

This is Amelia in for Alex today. Basically given the volatility in your business model, wouldn't it make sense at this point to acquire some system level management software or virtualization software that can potentially, I don't know, buffer to your business model and save you from having to aggressively cut OpEx when you experience maybe a less than favorable quarter?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Yes, indeed we are aggressively improving our system management software, including a certain demand management, some virtualization and some storage related tool, so including switch, our high performance switch product line. So we are doing those products now.

Amelia Harris

Analyst

And when -- I’m sorry?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

I'm not acquiring other company, yes. We still prefer growing organically with our own engineering capability.

Amelia Harris

Analyst

Okay. And when do you expect to maybe see an impact from that?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

The impact have been gradually happening since about 2 quarters ago. So it won't happen kind of overnight by gradual improvement. For example, today we have more than a handful customers now particularly appreciate our software have. And this time we have growth consistently.

Operator

Operator

And now we'll go to Michael Bertz with Kennedy Capital.

Michael Bertz

Analyst

Just to kind of go back to the gross margin question again, and Howard, maybe you can walk me through a little bit on this and how much the timing impact do you have particularly from hard drive and memory? And I think mainly from hard drive and in that sense, what is the difference between basically passing through the cost if you're selling in those component or something and just how much you guys are having to eat over these different quarters where pricing is moving around? And I mean I understand it's volatile but 350 bps is a significant amount, and it's like -- are you buying it in the previous quarter and having to remarket, and you talked about taking some write-downs just because your marketing it at lower cost for market. I mean, how much is that impacting? I am assuming most of it is coming in the sub-system business. Is that right, not in the systems business itself?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Well, it actually caused in both sides of it, Mike, to the extent that we incorporate the hard disk drives and the memory into our server systems. So any type of price changes and their impact the overall server margin also. So it is not just isolated in the components to sub-system business.

Michael Bertz

Analyst

So this is -– let’s go back to the timing question then, so what's the cycle time basically? I know I am obviously -- can tell what your days of inventory is, but what's the cycle times, when you actually buy it to when you actually turn it and put it in a system and sell it, I mean how quickly can that happen internally versus how quickly the price changes externally?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Well the price changes have been happening fairly quickly recently. I mean I think in this pricing quarter we actually saw again some strength and then at the end of the quarter we saw a pretty steep drop in the pricing happen per se. I think as some customers were basically trying to get rid of some of their inventory, we saw some pricing pressure at the end of the quarter. So again, it, the timing wise can happen fairly quickly, obviously quicker than when we can turn the inventory.

Michael Bertz

Analyst

So we’ll, then again -- it’s going on to beat a dead horse here, Howard, but how quickly can you turn the inventory through your systems, what -- again from the time you buy it to the time you ship it and book the [Audio Gap] less competitive maybe Dell or HP. Is that accurate?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Basically, yes.

Michael Bertz

Analyst

Okay. And so you think with the new products here into December we should be in better shape so how would you think then I guess geographically relatively would you assert that the U.S. would be now relatively stronger quarter-to-quarter versus say Europe, you're looking into December, would that be your expectation?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Because the USA market is more sensitive in technology. Whenever we introduce new architecture USA markets basically responds quicker, that's another factor.

Michael Bertz

Analyst

Okay, understood. And last question, Howard, you mentioned of almost $600,000 write-off in marketing materials and that was in this quarter?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

That's correct.

Michael Bertz

Analyst

And that seems like a lot, what was that about?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

It was more of, just some of our demo and demo type of equipment that we have out there in the field as we're familiaring the new products and what have you.

Michael Bertz

Analyst

Okay I'm sorry, I took that as to be like papers in this place, sorry.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll go to Brian Freed with Wunderlich Securities.

Brian Freed

Analyst

Just drilling down a little bit more on the hard disc drives. Can you talk a little bit about what specific steps you are able to take to alleviate the impact of future erratic prices, both on drives and memory? Are there any ways to one, access the long-term pricing contracts, or two, increase the frequency of the repricing? And then secondly, could you give us any additional color around the current utilization rate of your new manufacturing facility and how that transition is going?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Okay I mean for hard drive inventory question again. Usually we keep us 3 to 4 weeks inventory for hard drive and memory but again during the hard drive big shortage timeframe for safety, we'd raise the inventory level to 7 weeks so that kind of a clear -- a big trouble when price have a big drop and again basically we keep about 3, 4 week's inventory. As through the facility utilization, I mean Asia facility for sure is a big incremental to us and last quarter we have a 65% growth compared with one year ago, so that dramatically improved our utilization. And today I would like to say we have maybe 30% capacity use, so there has to be a 70% room to grow and we feel very positive for that capacity available.

Brian Freed

Analyst

And can you talk about what your targets are in terms of increasing that utilization of your capacity there?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Okay I mean again last year we grow about 65% in Asia and next year, I hope we can grow more than 65%. So even we've grown 65% in that utilization we have reached almost 65% to 70%, so that will be in much better position.

Brian Freed

Analyst

Okay and how material do you think that doubling of your utilization could be on your gross margin profile?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

It all depends, if we grow in Asia as Asia margin had to be lower, but if we use those capacity for support customer in Europe then the margin will be slightly better.

Brian Freed

Analyst

Okay and then my last follow-up on the hard disc drive inventory, understanding it had gotten up to 7 weeks. Are you down to 3 to 4 weeks at this point in time or are you still somewhere between 3 and 7 weeks?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

I guess about 4 weeks at this moment.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And now, we'll hear from Glenn Hanus with Needham.

Glenn Hanus

Analyst · Needham

On Asia, could you just talk a little bit more about the strength over there? Did you have some customer specific rollouts, that -- wins that you had or the general strength in the region?

Charles Liang

Analyst · Needham

Yes, I mean since 18 months ago we start to aggressively grow our sales and marketing teams, FAM&P teams, so and that's why we grow 65% last year, right. So this trend we are continue for sure, and because we already in enabled lots of pressure and [indiscernible] now those accounts start to buy product.

Glenn Hanus

Analyst · Needham

Can you comment on your operating expense plans now going forward?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · Needham

Yes, Glenn. We're going to obviously continue to invest but we're watching it very closely as far as our operating expense. I think you’ll note that our operating expense were basically flat quarter to quarter, right. And so we'll continue to invest in our R&D but we'll be very prudent with our R&R investment going forward.

Operator

Operator

And now we will take follow ups from Aaron Rakers from Stifel, Nicolaus.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

A real quick one. The Internet Data Center vertical, just looking at the numbers, you were down about 43% sequentially by my math. Can you talk a little bit about what you're seeing in that vertical and I think you alluded to deals pushing out, was that specific to that vertical, and if such, was there any large deals that possibly pushed out in the quarter?

Charles Liang

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

Yes, I guess we still assume [indiscernible] is kind of coming back.

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

And Aaron, for ourselves, yes, we did push out. I mean there were some customers that, as you know, data centers are looking at the latest technologies, so they were evaluating the Sandy Bridge, and so they didn't quite finish their evaluation at the end but we still believe that they're going to be coming in so again it's the transition to the new technology. We're seeing that they like our new product, especially with the Sandy Bridge, and they just need to get through the testing process.

Charles Liang

Analyst · Stifel, Nicolaus

I would also say especially affecting new architecture.

Operator

Operator

And now we'll go to Robert Maina with CRM LLC.

Robert Maina

Analyst

I just want to get a quick update on something that you said earlier in your presentation, Charles. You said that you were working to improve your inventory and manage the components supply chain better. Can you exactly tell us what processes you're putting in place to make sure that in the future, you do a better job at managing this?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Okay. Basically, in [indiscernible] is kind of almost never happened before a bigger price up and down in about 5 months’ time frame so from there we already enhanced our relationship with our hard drive and as well as memory company the relationship, so now we have a much better high level relationship and have some contracts signed. And we today, we've also have dedicated a position inside the company now to watch those market change and those vendors policy strategy change [indiscernible] in our company now.

Robert Maina

Analyst

Okay. So then if I could just ask a math question, if we get to the end of the quarter and see a similar price decline and ACD components like you sold this past quarter, does that mean gross margins go lower than the 13% or can you buffet that somehow with some of the new processes you've put in place?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Of course, I'm very happy to say that our hard drive and memory inventory already lowered to much more healthy level, we do have about -- $13 million?

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

$13 million overall. $10 million.

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Over $10 million, just in hard drive and memory inventory. So that's for sure dramatically improve our position. And like Howard just said, we now have a dedicated position to watch those change periodically. So that should prevent from to minimize that risk.

Robert Maina

Analyst

Okay, but if I look at the inventory levels still at a fairly significant level relative to previous periods, how much maybe of the inventory is related to components hard drives and memory?

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Like Howard just mentioned, hard drive. Indeed, that hard drive we already reduced to more than $10 million.

Howard Hideshima

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Right.

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

And overall inventory still high because we expect kind of good revenue this quarter for sure, especially with Fat Twin and our special workstation HFT optimizers solution. So we do need more inventory to prepare for the strong demand this quarter.

Operator

Operator

And that does conclude the question-and-answer session of our conference call and I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Liang for any closing remarks.

Charles Liang

Analyst · www.supermicro.com

Thank you for joining us today and we look forward to talking to you again at the end of this quarter. Thank you, everyone. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That does conclude the Super Micro first quarter fiscal year 2013 conference call. We do appreciate your participation, you may now disconnect. Thank you.