Yes. I think, clearly, and I think we talked about this in the past. All things being equal, the exact same leverage attachment point to second lien is a better position to be than a mezzanine. But leave that issue aside because I don't want to get into the legal arguments, but what we're doing on a second lien basis is trying to leverage opportunistically where we've had an existing investment. It might be Renaissance, which I alluded to, where we've been a first lien lender for some time. And so we're comfortable with the company and, therefore, comfortable with the second lien. If you look at a number of the repays that we've had, Endurance, for example, was a similar type investment. We've been in it 5 different times, first lien, second lien. So we're very comfortable with the business, the management team and the sponsor. But we've taken these position sizes relatively small, $10 million to $20 million, $25 million tops. So highly, highly diversified. And then, when you look at things where we're doing more new direct origination, where like a Tecomet as I referenced, which is a $44 million investment in Q4 with Genstar. That's something that was in the 5s in terms of leverage ratio, as I mentioned. So much less levered than what you're seeing in the broadly syndicated market, with most things coming with a 6 handle on the junior capitals leverage. And it's direct origination, deep dive due diligence and, importantly, covenants, and higher returns. We're seeing a good 100, 150 basis points higher than what we would get in a syndicated deal. But more importantly, as you know us, we've had the ability to underwrite directly and feel comfortable from a risk perspective and give private level leverage levels, rather than liquid loan market leverage levels.