Anthony J. Allott - Silgan Holdings, Inc.
Management
Sure. I'll – It's Tony. I'll respond to that. The – what we've said primarily is around the Burlington investment, which is kind of the most important discreet item on the can business. And what we've basically said about that is that we've spent $100 million. We expect our kind of returns on that, which would be something in the range of $20 million, I think, is a reasonable EBITDA kind of expectation from that. And so, that's our expectation, but you got to consider what we've already experienced in 2016. So, I'm going to take it back for a minute and say that we had basically inefficiencies that came into our system for a variety of reasons, the some $20 million that we talked about in 2015. That number, we have said will be more in the range of $15 million in 2016, right? And that $15 million includes start-up costs, et cetera. So, if you ignore a start-up, you kind of had inefficiencies of $20 million and $15 million that moves to $10-ish million range in 2016, plus the $5 million of start-up. So, the increment you'd expect on the EBITDA line from the line would be something in the range of $15 million in 2017 as compared to 2016. Now, that's not – that's EBITDA, that's not depreciation. Take depreciation off it, you're looking at something like $9 million of EBIT. And those numbers – nothing is new in any of those numbers. So, that's the one thing we talked about. I think obviously, against that, we're always trying to be more efficient and find ways to take costs out. What we also know against that is that we will have – it looks right now like we'll have – PPI Index will be down again for next year so that creates a little bit more of a price headwind for us in the way our contracts pass that through. So, we know we'll have to overcome that. And then pension, I think, is sort of a who knows right now. You look at discount rates and how low they are, and it's a little unclear which way pension will cut at this stage. So, I think, that's kind of the broad view of what's in front of us.