David Lukes
Analyst · Compass Point.
Sure, Floris, I happen to -- be sorry, apparently three cups of coffee wasn't enough. The company, this company has a long history of joint ventures. And I do think that it's always going to be a part of our platform, but it has to be for a purpose. And if you look at the JVs we've done in the past couple of years, it the purpose, it has been a recap of a portfolio so that we could recycle capital. The need to do that before was to delever our balance sheet and kind of prepare for bad times, which turned out to be a good move. I think at this point, we do have capital to invest from multiple sources. And at this point, I think we are continuing to invest on balance sheets. But I'm certainly not out of favor with doing, venture as long as they have a purpose. And that purpose could be the partner brings you a deal and they want to be involved with a REIT, it could be that the scale of the opportunity we find is simply too big for us. And we'd like to have a partner. So there can be multiple reasons, and I'm not against it. And I think you can assume that, we'll be very careful about it. But we're open to joint ventures. From the from the industry standpoint, with the Kimco Weingarten announcement. I mean, I do think it was positive for the industry, I agree with you that it seems to have stoked a little bit of animal spirits. Because it's a, it's a big deal. And it's positive for the industry, the pricing, I thought was a particularly a pretty good read through, because I do think it's a bit more consistent with where private market pricing is. So it's felt like validation of that. And the other thing I think is interesting is that, if you look under the hood, the Weingarten portfolio does have quite a few similarities to the SITE Center portfolio. We have similar ABR per square foot, we have similar grocery sales volumes, we've got similar demographics of I think we're talking a little bit higher household income. And if you really carefully look through the portfolios, you'll see that we have a pretty similar mix between grocery anchored and power center. So I thought it was great for the industry. And I particularly thought it was it was kind of a good read through for us.