James E. Meyer - Sirius XM Holdings, Inc.
Management
Well – so, Jason, I think there's two important points here. One is I can't give you that answer off the top of my head. Okay? What I can tell you and what I think everybody needs to be careful before they draw conclusions is that the pie is getting bigger, number one. There's no question in my mind, and the data says, you know, you hear it today from a variety of places. I think Bob Pittman a couple weeks ago spoke quite a bit about research they had done that show, in his words, audio's never been hotter and how much bigger the pie is, and we see the same thing. I think you have to be careful about drawing conclusions on things like Apple Music or Spotify in the car and taking that back to, oh, gee, this is part of that expansion of the pie, because I got to tell you, most of what at least I think we're seeing in the car today is those are substitutive. And basically what they're taking away from is what used to be the package media business for music that then morphed into the MP3 business for music. And so, yes, I think they are growing, don't misread me, but I would absolutely expect Apple Music and Spotify to continue to grow in the vehicle as people choose that as their fundamental way to listen to their music collection, which they've done for 40 – for 50 years, okay, ever since it became mobile, whenever the 8-track made it easy to take mobile products into your car. And so, I think we got to be careful. And again, we've been clear. I see these as two different businesses. They overlap and they – certainly one promotes the other and it always has. Radio has always been a key component to promoting music. We have never intended and we've tried to be very careful about being in a music distribution business solely. We are focused on being in the radio business and that doesn't mean we may or may not offer down the road a $10 music service if our subscribers say they want that, but that won't be the sole focus of our business.