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Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Oct 31, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Silicon Motion Technology Corporation's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Be advised that today's conference is being recorded. This conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. Such forward-looking statements include, without limitation, statements regarding trends in the operations, financial condition and business prospects. Although such statements are based on our own information and information from other sources we believe to be reliable, you should not place undue reliance on them. These statements involve risks and uncertainties and actual market trends and our results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in these forward-looking statements for a variety of reasons. Potential risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, continued competitive pressure in the semiconductor industry and the effect of such pressure on prices, unpredictable changes in technology and consumer demand for multimedia consumer electronics, the state of and any change in our relationship with our major customers, and changes in political, economic, legal and social conditions in Taiwan. For additional discussion of these risks and uncertainties and other factors please see the documents we file from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements, which apply only as of the date of this conference call. And with that, I'll now hand you over to Mr. Thomas Sepenzis, Senior Director of IR and Strategy. Please go ahead, sir.

Thomas Andrew Sepenzis

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Silicon Motion's Third Quarter 2025 financial results conference call and webcast. Joining me today is Wallace Kou, our President and CEO; and Jason Tsai, our CFO. Wallace will provide a review of our key business developments, and then Jason will discuss our third quarter results and outlook. Following our prepared remarks, we will conclude with a Q&A session. Before we begin, I would like to remind you of our safe harbor policy, which was read at the start of this call. For a comprehensive overview of the risks involved in investing in our securities, please refer to our filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. For more details on our financial results, please refer to our press release which was filed on Form 6-K after the close of market yesterday. This webcast will be available for replay in the Investor Relations section of our website for a limited time. To enhance investors' understanding of our ongoing economic performance, we will discuss non-GAAP information during this call. We use non-GAAP financial measures internally to evaluate and manage our operations. We have, therefore, chosen to provide this information to enable you to perform comparisons of our operating results in a manner consistent with how we analyze our own operating results. The reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP financial data can be found in our earnings release issued yesterday. We ask that you review it in conjunction with this call. With that, I will turn the call over to Wallace.

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

Thank you, Tom. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm pleased to report that we delivered another strong performance in the third quarter, exceeding our revenue and operational margin guidance, we continue to benefit from the introduction of new controller existing and new markets and drive increased market share across our portfolio. We remain focused on delivering both top and bottom line growth and improving profitability while investing heavily in the next-generation controllers, increasing our engineering resources to support new products and markets and further positioning Silicon Motion for long-term market share expansion. We expect strong revenue growth to continue as we introduced compelling new PCIe client SSD controller, next-generation eMMC and UFS controllers that drive higher share, benefit from strong growth in our automotive business and as our MonTitan enterprise business begins to scale. I'm excited about the foundation for growth that we are building across each of our major markets and believe we are well positioned to see sustained revenue and profitability growth in both the near and long term. Let me start by discussion and broader market environment and then each of our major business in greater detail. AI remains a significant growth vector across memory and storage industry, driving strong demand for NAND and other technology, including DRAM and HDD. The growing AI demand has, for the first time, greater supply shortages in HDD, NAND and DRAM, leading to price increases for the past 3 quarters, a trend we expect will continue at least through 2026. In the early stage of AI development, AI training drove strong demand for high-performance memory and storage using DRAM, HBM and NAND for lower capacity TLC-based compute SSD. As AI evolves, the focus is changing to inference, which relies more on high-performance, high-capacity storage rather than raw…

Jason Tsai

Analyst

Thank you, Wallace, and good morning to everyone joining us today. I will discuss additional details of our third quarter results and then provide our outlook. Please note and my comments today will focus primarily on our non-GAAP results, unless otherwise specifically noted. A reconciliation of our GAAP to non-GAAP data is included in the earnings release issued today. The September quarter sales increased 22% to $242 million, coming in well above the high end of our guided ranges. We experienced a strong rebound to mobile demand, strong growth in our PCIe 5 climate. Gross margins was at the higher end of our guidance range and increased again in the quarter to 48.7% as we continue to capitalize on new product introductions and improving mix. Operating expenses increased sequentially to $79.5 million as we continue to invest in new projects and expand our customer engagements to further grow and support our significant pipeline of new opportunities. Operating margin increased sequentially to 15.8%, well above our guided range, resulting from improved gross margins and higher-than-expected revenues during the quarter. Our earnings per ADS was $1. Total stock compensation, which we exclude from non-GAAP results, was $5.5 million in the third quarter, and we had $272.4 million cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash at the end of the third quarter compared to $282.3 million at the end of the second quarter 2025. Cash declined in the third quarter primarily from a combination of dividend payment of $16.7 million and an increase in inventory to support our expected strong business ramp. Our team executed well, and our operational discipline delivered significant outperformance despite continuing investments in new advanced geometry products and our emerging MonTitan platform for their enterprise and AI market. Now I'll discuss our fourth quarter outlook. Revenue is expected to increase…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from the line of Neil Young from Needham & Company.

Neil Young

Analyst

Could you dive a little deeper in your comment in the press release about white box AI server makers continuing to leverage mainstream hardware components. I believe your SSD controller sales are typically a PC/other consumer applications. So can you just give us a sense of how much of the SSD controller revenue in this quarter came from the white box AI server makers you referenced? And where you expect that to trend going forward? And then I have a follow-up.

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

The mention with the white box is an AI all-in-one server and primarily that come from China and Taiwan from the DeepSeek Volume-1 surveyor [ flybox ] and some in others, bundled with other training model. I think there are 2508 8-channel PCIe 5 controller is well positioned in the market. We cannot comment. We don't know exactly the volume, but there is a growing momentum for all the AI all-in-one server. it is similar like NVIDIA announced MGX, DGX GPU for this kind of a market.

Neil Young

Analyst

Okay. And then looking at the gross margin guide, midpoint coming in at 49%. I was wondering if you could maybe walk through the moving pieces of the gross margin in 4Q. And then if possible, could you share sort of where you expect gross margin to trend next year? If not, at least what the main drivers of the gross margin improvement should be in 2026?

Jason Tsai

Analyst

So certainly, as we continue into the fourth quarter, scaling new products like PCIe 5 new generation products tend to have better gross margins that offset the declining gross margins of older products. We do expect to see, as MonTitan continues to scale to have some incremental benefits, but certainly, that remains a relatively small portion of our business today. We're not guiding for 2026 at this point. We'll talk more about that in 3 months' time. So stay tuned for that. But certainly, we are excited that we're back to kind of the normalized range that we historically have been, historical range has been 48% to 50%, and we're guiding smack in the middle of that. So we're pretty happy that we've been able to recover off of obviously some tough times a couple of years ago, but we're back to where we historically have been.

Operator

Operator

We will now take the next question from the line of Craig Ellis from B. Riley Securities.

Craig Ellis

Analyst

Team, congratulations on real good execution. I wanted to start with a question that takes off from Jason's comments that the company is just getting started in enterprise storage and ask a question that's fairly broad and has a couple of parts to it. So if we look at what our ambition is over the next year plus with MonTitan and enterprise storage classically defined and think about what's going on currently with boot drive controllers and full solutions already starting to ship and picking up and maybe diversifying our customer base next year. And then -- and this part would be for you, Wallace. As we think about some of the news that's coming out of Korea and other countries about the development of high-bandwidth flash. And while some could be skeptical that, that may just be like storage class memory, which went nowhere for 15 years, but with some leading OEMs behind it, it very likely could. How do we think about the arc of those drivers as we go from '25 to '26 and '27? And what can enterprise broadly defined be for the company longer term?

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your question. Please remain on the line. Your conference will resume shortly. Thank you. Presenters, you may continue your conference. Craig, you may want to repeat your question?

Craig Ellis

Analyst

Yes. The question is this, if we look at enterprise storage broadly, including MonTitan's traditional enterprise storage but also include the boot drive business with one customer shipping now, but maybe diversifying and think longer term about what's possible from high bandwidth flash, if that were to be an opportunity because certainly that's going to be QLC where you're particularly strong. Can you talk about...

Operator

Operator

Just a moment, sir. The conference will resume shortly. Just a moment. Ladies and gentlemen, please remain on the line your conference will resume shortly. [Technical Difficulty] We have the speakers back.

Thomas Andrew Sepenzis

Analyst

Hi, there. Sorry about that. We're back.

Craig Ellis

Analyst

Should I give the question a third shot.

Thomas Andrew Sepenzis

Analyst

Yes, one more time Craig. Sorry about that.

Craig Ellis

Analyst

So looking at enterprise storage broadly from MonTitan classic enterprise storage that's starting to ramp with qualifications and then shipments next year, but boot drive controllers and storage getting going now and with the potential for high bandwidth flash to come in as a much-needed AI-based solution a few years down the road, how do we think about the longer-term market storage as we just get started with boot drives this year, pick up MonTitan and then ramp those over the ensuing years. And what could high-bandwidth flash do to the business as a third driver longer term?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

So first of all, I want to clarify the 5% to 10% of total revenue, '26 to '27 does not include our Blue Drive for the current DPU design and also for the additional switch Blue Drive solution. But we do see -- moving to 2026 is the best and challenging year for storage industry. There's so many new opportunity coming, not the conventional compute storage, but also one storage, the high-capacity QLC SSD. And then moving forward, it will be near GPU storage. So there's so many new opportunities for MonTitan controller to fit in. And we're also preparing to work on growing market. We just need more R&D resources to meet the demand. And in parallel, I think this is a great opportunity. We see MonTitan to scale up. our Blue Drive solution also could scale up quickly in 2026 and moving to some CSV design too.

Craig Ellis

Analyst

And Wallace, what's your view on the potential for high bandwidth flash to be a third driver of enterprise broadly defined longer term?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

So high HBF, I think this is a very interesting product. And this is -- as you know, this is all designed for AI inference near GPU. We see there's 3D SoC technology moving to meet certain new GPU leaders requirement. But HBS also very interesting in packing technology is the conventional standard 3D NAND. But this require new controller and packing technology. We will monitor it carefully because we believe initially this belong to all the NAND makers development, and we are also invited to join the business. But I think we are out of a resource. We want to monitor when the market become more mature, more stable and where we'll participate.

Craig Ellis

Analyst

And then the second question is a question regarding the comments from you and Jason around NAND sufficiency and the implications for shipments next year. So you have an advantage, you're levered with all NAND suppliers. What messaging are they giving you with regard to how they're going to prioritize their output and capacity allocations across enterprise versus PC versus smartphone and then consumer applications? And what does that mean for the various growth drivers of the business in 2026?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

I think you asked a very good question. We are facing a never happened before the HDD, DRAM, HBM, NAND, all in severe shortage in 2026. Most of our capacity are sold out. And I think I did talk to many of the major makers but I really cannot comment what kind of allocation policy is going to do. However the leading maker, they will keep a discipline and then we can see the balancing for the industry. They are not just favoring AI and server of AI data center. They will consider certain percent for smart phone, certain percentage for PC and certain percent for automotive, of course, the majority would go to the AI and the AI server. So but balancing is very important so we can keep the whole industry moving forward.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from the line of Suji Desilva from ROTH Capital.

Sujeeva De Silva

Analyst

Wallace, Jason, congratulations on the progress here. For MonTitan, I know you're going to talk about 2 lead customers initially, now more. I know one of them was an OEM who was, I think, in turn, trying to themselves secure hyperscaler customers. Has that happened with that lead customer? And if so, what's the start of ramp timing for that customer?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

I cannot comment their ramping. I think they're very close to the -- as you know, Tier 1 customers, some will develop their firmware themselves, some with joint development with us together. We cannot comment their ramping but getting very close. But because MonTitan getting tremendous demand from multiple customers from Tier 2, so we are busy to provide solutions for both TLC and QLC. Hopefully, we can start a small ramp in the Q4, and we see the more meaningful ramp in 2026.

Sujeeva De Silva

Analyst

Okay. Well, it's very helpful. And my other question is on the arbitration. I'm wondering if there's any update there.

Jason Tsai

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Suji. Yes, the arbitration, we had -- the arbitration has begun. The hearing was held as scheduled earlier this month. The tribunal scheduled oral closing arguments to be in March of 2026 and is expected that a decision by the tribunal will be available sometime after that.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from the line of Tiffany Ye from Morgan Stanley.

Hsin Yeh

Analyst

Congrats on the great results and guidance. So my first question is that it seems your inventory value rose around 62% in the third quarter. May we know the reason behind? Is it due to the inventory preparation for the BT substrate shortage? And I have a follow-up.

Jason Tsai

Analyst

Yes. So inventory did come up. Inventory increase is to support the growing backlog and new business and orders that we have already received. And that's expected to ship over the next few quarters. And the increase in inventories across really all of our product categories, including some low-cost NAND that we have procured earlier as well as controllers for SSD as well as eMMC and UFS. So it's a pretty broad-based demand that we're seeing, and we're preparing ahead of that.

Hsin Yeh

Analyst

Okay. Got it. So it seems that the BT substrate shortage has kept some of our fabless peers upside in first half next year. So do we see any impact from that? Or because as what you just indicated, we're fully loaded now. So not worry about that impact.

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

I think the substrate PCB shortage or long lead time in non-power business, we have prepared in advance. But we do need to prepare the production ramp for more controller as well as the Ferri product line. That's why we increased our inventory right now.

Hsin Yeh

Analyst

Got it. Got it. I have one more question. So as we head into 2026, we see both our foundry partner and OSAT partners all initiating price hike to reflect the elevated material costs. So how should we think about the impact to our profitability? And do you think we can further pass through all these elevated costs to our customers? That's all.

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

I think what I can say that TSMC will increase the wafer price from 5, 4, 3, 2-nanometer, start from 2025. Our PCIe Gen6 TSMC 4-nanometer won't be production until late '27 or '28. So there's no cost impact, foundry wafer impact for our cost in our controller in the next 2 to 3 years.

Jason Tsai

Analyst

And Tiffany, most of our products are on more trailing edge process geometry. So availability is -- and pricing is certainly better at those trailing edges. The more advanced ones we have today is 6 nano, but a lot of our other products are at 12 and 20 or even higher process geometries.

Hsin Yeh

Analyst

So maybe the impact from foundry is quite nearly limited in 2026, but how about OSATs?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

OSAT, I think because we have a preliminary agreement, so the OSAT cost impact will be very limited to us almost irrelevant.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Gokul Hariharan from JPMorgan.

Gokul Hariharan

Analyst

My first question, given this very rapid increase in NAND flash pricing, and it seems like you're going to be in a reasonably short supply situation all through 2026. What are the business dynamics that you're seeing from your customers? Historically, Silicon Motion used to be a little bit more affected when NAND flash is very tight, given OEMs try to allocate to certain customers. At the same time, QLC NAND is clearly rising. Could you talk a little bit about anything more that you see in terms of either engagement, any reason why you're not kind of getting more bullish about your 5% to 10% kind of enterprise SSD exposure given a lot of the activities happening in QLC NAND right now?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

I think, first of all, more than 50% of our business we engage with the NAND OEM business. So we are really well protected in the NAND maker. Second is most of our module maker, they have prepared the potential NAND price increase and shortage in advance. So they all have at least 8 to 12 months inventory. And I think they also -- although they do have a certain contract with the NAND supplier, but definitely, there will be some impact. But I think most of our customers, when we discussed in the last couple of weeks, they all have confidence they should walk through in 2026. So we do not see impact of our business as the coming quarter or even the first half of 2026. We feel very strong for our backlog and we see we will benefit from the NAND supply shortage and become a stronger player in the industry.

Gokul Hariharan

Analyst

Understood. Any updates on the QLC NAND pipeline -- design pipeline and revenue pipeline, I was thinking maybe you would be sounding a little bit more bullish about enterprise SSD given a lot of the activity on QLD NANDs recently.

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

That's exactly true. We are very excited about the high demand for QLC, high-capacity enterprise SSD. We just need to deliver the result. I think the -- as you can see, even it's not just the AI inferences, really require high-capacity enterprise SSD because HDD shortage also trigger higher demand or an urgent demand for the high-capacity SSD. That's why we are very busy. I cannot comment about the potential outcome, but we have to deliver results ASAP.

Jason Tsai

Analyst

Gokul, we're not changing our expectations at this point in spite of the strong demand. We're still targeting 5% to 10% of our revenue in that '26, '27 time frame.

Gokul Hariharan

Analyst

Okay. Are your existing customers because new designs will obviously take time to kind of cascade in. But are your existing customers upsizing meaningfully compared to what you thought maybe 6 months back?

Jason Tsai

Analyst

I mean I think across the board, we're certainly doing better, right? We're coming in ahead of where we were anticipating exiting the year at. So we're going to be above the $1 billion run rate. We are seeing strength in eMMC, UFS as we gain share there. We're seeing strength with our PCIe 5 as we gain share there. So across the board, we are. And so our business today is certainly stronger than what we had anticipated at the start of the year.

Gokul Hariharan

Analyst

Yes, I think this is more to do with enterprise rather than -- I mean consumer is very clear, I think, but this is more to do with enterprise.

Jason Tsai

Analyst

Yes. I mean, look, our target still remains at 5% to 10% in '26, '27. Obviously, if we can get -- do that faster, we certainly will, but we are resource constrained. We are working as fast as we can. Our products are beginning to sample with end customers. So as they get ready to ramp up, we're going to be ready to support them. So there are a number of processes in place that right now, we're working through it.

Gokul Hariharan

Analyst

Got it. Just back to client SSDs. How are you thinking about the next couple of quarters? I think we have probably seen a lot of the benefits of the Windows 10 sunsetting and the demand pull in for PC as a result of that. As we kind of start to lap that in the next couple of quarters, how do you see this pan out? Do you see a little bit of moderation in growth there or the spec migration to PCIe 5 is enough to kind of offset any of that volume growth tail off?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

I think you are correct. We benefit from PCIe 5 market share gain. As we said, our PCIe 5, 8 channel have a 4 NAND maker and nearly all the module maker design win. So when PC OEMs start to ramp late this quarter, I think we benefit from revenue growth as well as market share gain. Our 4-channel mainstream DRAM PCIe 5 also is near production. I think we will start to see initial production by late this quarter and start to ramping up by middle of next year through another combination 4 NAND maker as well as the module maker. So when PCIe 5 become mainstream in the PC market, Silicon Motion will benefit from the market trend because we will move towards 40% global market share.

Jason Tsai

Analyst

And we -- as I said in the comments that we do anticipate our SSD controller business to grow again sequentially in the fourth quarter.

Gokul Hariharan

Analyst

Okay. So just a clarification. So for PCIe Gen5, let's say, for next year, what percentage of the PC OEM market do you expect it to be? Is it like 15%, 20%? Or once you have your 4-channel controller also ready? Or is it even higher than that?

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

We cannot comment for PC OEM what they plan to ramp. We just know when they ramp more model, we benefit from market share gain.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] our next question comes from Matt Bryson from Wedbush. All right. We are not getting a response from Matt. So I'm not showing any further questions. I'll now turn the conference back to Mr. Wallace Kou for closing comments.

Chia-Chang Kou

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today and for your continued interest in Silicon Motion. We will be attending several investor conferences over the next few months. The schedule of these events will be posted on the Investor Relationship section of our corporate website, and we look forward to speaking with you at these events. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect your lines.