Greetings, and welcome to the Shake Shack Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Rik Powell, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Powell.

Thank you, Jerry. And good evening, everybody. Joining me for Shake Shack's conference call this evening is our CEO, Randy Garutti; and President and CFO, Tara Comonte. During today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release and the appendix to our supplemental materials. Some of today's statements may be forward-looking. And actual results may differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those discussed in our annual report on Form 10-K filed on February 24, 2020, and Form 10-Q filed on July 31, 2020. Any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today, and we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements if our views change. By now, you should have access to our fourth quarter 2020 earnings release, which can be found at investor.shakeshack.com in the News section. Additionally, we have posted our fourth quarter 2020 supplemental earnings materials, which can be found in the Events and Presentations section on our site, or as an exhibit to our 8-K for the quarter. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Randy.

Thanks, Rik, and good evening, everyone. We hope you, your families and our entire Shake Shack community are staying healthy and safe through these challenging times. As we close the chapter on 2020, I'm so grateful and proud of the way our Shack family has overcome the obstacles that came our way and led the continued recovery of our business while supporting each other and our communities. We are on an endless pursuit to create uplifting experiences today more than ever. And while the reality at this moment remains volatile, we're working to build a thriving Shack community on the other side of this pandemic. Focusing on our financial progress, we're encouraged with our Q4 results and the momentum that built through January. February results did take a step back, partially due to the extreme weather experience across the nation. It caused more than 130 full or partial loss operating days from Shack closures. However, we are just a few short weeks away from turning the dial on a year of COVID and looking forward to continued recovery. Looking back at Q4, despite the hurdles facing our business and with much of the country still under varying degrees of lockdown, we're pleased to report revenue of $157.5 million, with same-Shack sales improving to down 17.4%, compared to down 31.7% in the third quarter. At the end of Q4, roughly half of our Shacks were still operating with closed dining rooms and 2 remain fully closed. Even under those restrictions, we continue to see sequential positive improvement across all regions when compared to the third quarter, with certain markets, such as the northeast and southeast, close to flat versus the prior year as we exited the quarter. And our suburban Shacks delivered positive growth in fiscal November and December. Full system-wide…

Thanks, Randy. Good evening, everyone. Before we get into the financials, a quick reminder that our fiscal calendar in the fourth quarter contained an additional 53rd week, and we've normalized our performance for this where appropriate, consistent with our pre-release a few weeks ago. As you just heard, we saw continued sales improvement during the fourth quarter, delivering $157.5 million in total revenue, inclusive of $11.1 million due to the additional 53rd fiscal week and total revenue for the full year of $522.9 million. When compared to the third quarter and excluding the 53rd week, fourth quarter sales increased 12.3% sequentially, another solid continued step forward in our gradual recovery. Same-Shack sales in the fourth quarter declined 17.4% compared to the prior year, an improvement versus a decline of 31.7% in the third quarter. This improvement was driven primarily by an increase in traffic compared to the third quarter from a decline of 42% to 30% sequentially. Similar to prior years, in mid-December we took our annual menu price increase of approximately 2% on average across all company-operated Shacks. Suburban same-Shack sales improved from down 16% in the third quarter to nearly flat in the fourth quarter and exited the year with positive growth due to the continued recovery of in-Shack sales and strong digital channel performance. Urban same-Shack sales, although still underperforming suburban Shacks, also improved from down 43% in the third quarter to down 31% in the fourth. As of the end of the fourth quarter, our trailing 12-month average unit volume was $3 million, significantly impacted by the pandemic over the vast majority of the year. Average weekly sales were $62,000 in the fourth quarter, a 6.9% sequential increase and with typical seasonality during the fourth quarter, resulting in lower average weekly sales we were pleased to…

Thanks, Tara. I want to end today with a few notes on ESG. Investing in our communities has always been in our roots since we began as a hot dog cart to support a park 20 years ago. As we continue to expand and evolve our mission to stand for something good, we are focused more than ever on our ESG efforts. And we'll be publishing our second annual Stand For Something Good report in the second quarter. As we grow, we plan to double down on our commitments and accountability towards positive change. This year, in addition to the initiatives we named today, we supported our workers through investments such as premium pay, additional pay, promoting a diverse workforce, launching 4 employee resource groups, running company-wide unconscious bias training and expanding our mentoring program. We improved sustainability of our supply chain and operations by increasing our commitments to buying more regeneratively ranched and non-GMO-certified beef as well as cage-free eggs. We built our Shacks thoughtfully, to optimize energy management with local and public transportation convenience and the use of sustainable materials. We've even made donations to the Equal Justice Initiative, Fresh Air Fund, ROAR and other local nonprofits. We proudly provided over 11,000 meals to healthcare and frontline workers and others. We're grateful for the opportunity to give back to our teams, guests and communities and are confident we can continue to make a positive impact as we grow in 2021. To you and your families, stay healthy, stay safe. And with that, operator, please go ahead and open the call for any questions.

[Operator Instructions]. The first question is from Lauren Silberman, Credit Suisse.

So just to start, digital sales have been pretty consistent at about 60% plus or minus over the last several months. Is that digital sales mix sustained? Or to what extent are digital sales dollars being sustained even as markets reopen? And then can you share how that digital mix differs across urban versus suburban Shacks? And just the composition of the digital mix, is it - how different is that in urban versus suburban Shacks?

Yes, let me take that. Lauren, yes, we're very pleased with the digital mix staying high. If you actually look in our supplementals, you can get - you can kind of eyeball the extent to which the dollars have been retained. I mean we've got incredibly high levels of retention within that sort of 63% in February. So retaining really all the digital sales from the high point of the pandemic. In terms of the - there really isn't a sort of a headline around urban versus suburban. It differs to some degree, Shack to Shack. But suffice to say, they've been very strong really across the entire base. So whether that be app, app-web or digital, and with 2 million new purchasers welcomed to our own channels, we're super excited about what our momentum and these numbers can mean for us on a go-forward basis.

And Lauren, I'll just add, I mean you saw in supplementals, we obviously had a pickup in the first two periods of this year that we showed, and that was, a lot of it, due to delivery increasing in cold weather. I think what will be interesting - none of us exactly know the encouraging signs or how sticky that sales has been. I think it will be interesting as people return to restaurants and as we begin to open more dining rooms and welcome people back to gathering at Shake Shack and to using our digital tools, where that goes. And as Tara said, 2 million new fans of Shake Shack, using our digital tools over the last year is an exciting opportunity. That's what we'll be focused on.

Great. And then just, Randy, you talked about all the exciting formats in both urban and suburban markets. I think historically, average build out cost has been about $2 million. Can you provide just an update on where you're seeing average build out cost? And how are these expanding designs also expanding the range of build out costs?

Yes. Well, the range expands. That's exactly the right way to think about it. Look, we've been pretty consistent about this. You'll see this in our numbers in the 10-K. I mean that roughly, and I'm saying approximately $2 million number after our preopening cost is about right, and has been pretty static there for a while. I think what you'll start to see though is this year, we're going to invest in some of those new formats. So there will be some Shacks where we are choosing to spend more. When we build some of these drive-thrus, some of them, not all. It really depends on the location of the deal. But certainly now, we want to invest that we expect it to be a little bit elevated this coming year. And then at the same time, we'll balance that out with some of the less expensive one, some of the core format Shacks, some of the food court Shacks where we're able to spend less and still have some decent sales. But we do expect to invest in the learning that drive-thru should give us. And as we mentioned, doing a handful of those in this next 12 to 18 months, it's going to be exciting. And we're not going to hold back on spending the right amount of money to make it great. So stay tuned, and we'll see where it goes from there.

The next question is from Jared Garber, Goldman Sachs.

Actually, kind of a follow-up to Lauren's question just before, but maybe the flip side, thanks for the color on the build costs. But on the top line side for new units, and Tara, I think you mentioned that if you annualized current digital sales, you're running at basically a digital AUV of $1.9 million, how should we be thinking about that sort of $3 million sort of typical run rate new unit build with keeping in mind sort of this acceleration in the digital business?

Yes. Yes, you heard the numbers right. That was a Q4 annualized digital number. So an impressive number. We think it's an impressive number at one point, an effective AUV of $1.9 million. I mean as Randy just said, this is - we've built this incredible momentum within digital, and we're going to continue to build on that foundation. But as dining rooms reopen, as people come back to work in cities and come out and about again and back to Shacks, we don't expect it to stay at the 60%, 64%. So it will level off somewhere and still roll that AUV. At this point in time, we haven't updated the $3 million class average target, and we're not updating that today. I think right now, our first focus is getting back to full recovery and using all the different levers that we have at our disposal to do that. Digital is one of them, and there are many others. So no updates to that, but yes, digital, certainly an increasingly important part of how we get there.

We have a question from Michael Tamas, Oppenheimer & Company.

I wanted to follow-up on something that Randy touched on a few minutes ago. Obviously, nobody knows what's going to happen going forward. But in the areas where you've seen sort of less restrictions, can you just talk about what sort of consumer habits have been like and how those have shifted over the last several months as those restrictions kind of opened up? And how does that inform you about what you think may happen going forward? And did you do anything differently in those areas, whether it be marketing or digital targeting?

Yes, it's a great question. Look, I think it is so varied by region and especially in this last few months, right? We reached peak COVID cases and peak restrictions really over that December, January time frame that have just now started to ease. I think generally, the things that we point to are this: Dining rooms are a good thing for us. We'd like to open them. About 75% of our Shacks have some form of a limited dining room opened today. A lot of our Shacks really benefit when the weather warms up. That's been true of our company. if you look at the seasonality of this forever. So we're especially hard hit when we have places that are closed. But all of it is pointing to the need for us to progress with the digital tools. So even within all those ups and downs, the digital tools continue to be the preferred channel. And that's super exciting, whether you're in Ohio or Texas or California or New York City, we're really leaning into that. And there's one important thing I just want to make sure we talked about it in the script, but we have just now launched delivery through our own app. I'm actually ordering delivery tonight myself from my local Upper West Side Shack in New York City through our app. And we're really excited about that. That is super test, I mean, we've just launched literally last week in New York City, so we're excited for that. And when you see that start to happen, it just builds more and more things. Look, as I look out, no one can guess and we're done guessing when COVID ends. And as people get vaccinated, we hope cases stay low and keep going low. But it's clear to us that as that happens, that's good for our business. We're excited that we continue to strengthen the momentum through January, and we're hopeful that as we start to lap, we're only a couple - few weeks really away from lapping the beginning of the hardest hit times that COVID offered last year. So we're excited for that. We're excited to get people back in restaurants and continue to use our digital tools. So lots to do, all about the formats in the digital transformation.

Awesome. And can you just talk about margins a little bit? Maybe put some guardrails around what you think maybe margins might look like at different sales volumes as sales kind of start to come back towards you guys? Or maybe talk about what margins could look like as dining rooms reopen, assuming off-premise remains elevated versus pre-COVID levels. Is that accretive overall to your margins? Or what's the best way to frame up margins as we think about the go forward?

Yes, I'm happy to take that. I mean I think the best way to think about margins on a go-forward basis is that they follow sales. The faster we can get back to full recovery on the top line, the faster we will see our bottom line recover. There are obviously some certain takes within that, some short term, some longer term that we don't know yet in terms of the extent to which there'll be any different margin profiles in some of these formats. But that's - we haven't launched some of them yet, so we've got a lot of learning ahead of us. So right now, we're pleased with the progress to date. There's been a high degree of cost control across the business, as I mentioned, throughout the year, yet continuing to spend where we see fit, where safety is a priority, where guest experience can be enhanced, where sales driving initiatives can be rolled out. So really, with the focus on top line and experience. You've seen - we mentioned - we've had this for the last few quarters, we continue to invest in our teams. We continue to have elevated packaging costs that will continue for the short term. And of course, I think as we come out the other side of this, some of those COVID-specific costs will roll off. But again, to go back to the way I answered the earlier question, actually, we're really just so focused on maximizing that top line, not just as we recover, but for the long term, as we expand across the country, as we build on this digital foundation and test these new formats. And that's the way we're going to continue to drive accretive profitability over the long-term through a continued aggressive sales strategy.

We have a question from John Glass, Morgan Stanley.

First, if I could just ask about some of the early learnings and maybe the sales benefit from both Shack Tracks where you put them in, I think there was a small handful in the curb side. So I know you said the check is bigger in some cases. And obviously, there's - it's early days. But do you have a sense yet what those do to sales overall? Is there a 10% lift, 5%? Or do you have an expectation what it could do over time early days?

John, we're super excited about it. Yet, it's super - it's just way too early. And unfortunately, the compares are so challenging, right, because sales every month are tweaked by so many other factors having nothing to do with a normal compare. What I can say is this. I've been at a lot of Shacks recently, watching it, witnessing it, seeing it live, new Shacks that opened for the first time with it. And what we love about it is the clarity and separation of flow. One of Shake Shack's biggest problems forever has been it's busy, and it's hard to get your food. And when we can have a Shack Track window, things just get smoother. When we can have delivery couriers out in a separate area, things just get smoother. And we really love that. So look, our goal is absolutely that Shack Track should be a long-term increase of sales opportunity for us. That's why we're doing it and why we're building it into all our tools. As you said, some of the evidence that we do have today, whether curbside or otherwise is, people are using it. People are choosing it, and the average check is generally higher when they do. So those are good things, but we've got a lot of normal recovery to have as we go. I'm most excited to see as - as people return into dining rooms, how do we figure this out, there's going to be some flow to figure out, but it's all pointing in a good direction, we believe, on Shack Track.

I just wanted - my second question, I just wanted to revisit digital and specifically delivery. I don't think we've ever learned what delivery is as a percentage of sales, maybe I'm wrong, but it's got to be meaningful, just given the way you've talked about it. Maybe if you're willing to talk just directionally in terms of total digital sales, what that is. And as you think about delivery and the impact to margin, you talked about a price increase. So one, what has been the drag from a commission standpoint on margins just in the last couple of quarters? And what portion of that do you think is offset by that 5% trial of price increase?

Yes, John. I mean, you're right, we haven't put out delivery up until this point, and we haven't today. So it's within the 63% of that February number. And delivery has been an important part of our business. It has been for the last few years, and it certainly is in a COVID environment. One of the reasons that we don't split out by channel, and I've said this before is, because it's really just not the way we look at the business. We're trying to build a set of experiences for our guests that really can be interchangeable, where we can use enhanced marketing tools, bringing convenience. Almost to the last question that you just asked Randy, around consumer behavior. We want these different channels including delivery and certainly delivery through our own app, to be customer acquisition opportunities, to provide opportunities to engage with Shake Shack in a way that you maybe wouldn't have otherwise been able to. And then from that to drive frequency and to drive retention and to drive in home - long term sort of customer loyalty and engagement. In terms of the third-party delivery channel, yes, it comes with a cost. It's too early for us to talk to what a 5% uplift will or won't do in terms of that channel over the long term. It's literally in its infancy in terms of being rolled out. So we'll have to update you on that one. And no specifics to share, but delivery - the delivery commission itself sits in the other OpEx line. And it is certainly the biggest drag to that line, and we expect that to continue to be the case. Certainly, while delivery remains elevated in a COVID-type environment. So no specifics, but sort of directionally, you're right. It's meaningful. It's expensive. I mean, I think we've got a lot of opportunity, as Randy pointed out, in terms of bringing it back into our own ecosystem. So that although it still costs us, in that deliveries, it doesn't suddenly become free when it's in our own channels, but it does allow us to engage the guests on a direct basis, it allows us to communicate with some of the much more targeted and personalized manner going forward as opposed to that relationship being as sort of third-party invisible one when it's through a third-party marketplace.

We have a question from John Ivankoe, JPMorgan.

I was hoping if you had a sense of what's happened to some of your near-end relevant competition both in urban markets, perhaps most importantly, but also suburban markets. I know you root for everyone to survive and, obviously, the growth. And the entrepreneurial nature of this industry is really what drives it along. But the reality is that it has been difficult for a lot of independent operators. So do you have a sense of a percent, even if you kind of want to really, loosely kind of talk about that, the amount of relevant near-end competition that has come out of - in terms of your trade areas, is the first question. And secondly, with so much cash on your balance sheet, $180 million, I would assume whether it's asset deals or maybe even brand deals must be crossing your desk at a rate where they perhaps weren't before. If you can kind of talk about - if there's a way to kind of juxtapose maybe taking advantage of some of that competition, which, at least in the near term, may have been weakened.

Yes, John. So on competition, you've certainly seen that, especially in the hardest hit urban areas. I mean, I'm sitting here in New York, and so many of our friends are - still remain closed or barely reopened. Even our Founder and Chairman, Danny Meyer, has not reopened his dining rooms in New York City, right? Some of the best restaurants in New York. That will take time. And hopefully, that takes - that comes along with people returning to the city for work. I think it's so different, though, right? If you go to Florida, you go to Texas, generally, things are acting fairly normally. So when you look at our - some of the more traditional elevated fast food or fast casual that we might compete with that you cover, they're doing well. They're winning, right? Whereas some of the casual dining has been hit a lot harder. I think we always have sat in the middle there, and that has been our sweet spot. And I think it's been our sweet spot as we've solely recovered here and will be. Look, there's going to be some level of less restaurants for a while. We will probably benefit from that in some form over the near term. But I'm a believer that great entrepreneurs, especially in the restaurant business, are going to come back swinging pretty hard and create some great stuff. In the meantime, what it creates for us is real estate opportunity, and we're capturing that. You saw it. You see it in our commitment to upgrade and do more. You're seeing it in the kind of real estate we're looking at, whether urban - I'm walking around New York City every day saying, wow, that's a great spot. Maybe we should look at that. And suburban, where there are many companies, even in the drive-thru scenario, that have given up sites, and we've got that opportunity. So I think all of that will be a net win for Shake Shack. And then on the balance sheet side, we're - look, since we've been born, we've been looking for great opportunity. We're thankful that we have the balance sheet that we do, and we're constantly looking at that. Right now, when you look at our approach, we're squarely focused on ramping up growth. You're seeing it in our guidance here, you're seeing it in the actions we're taking. You're seeing it in the G&A commitment that we've made for this year. And we've shared some of those expenses and guidance for that reason, because we want you to know that even though our sales will take time to recover, you can expect us to keep hiring great people so that we can meet that demand. But we have no plans for any kind of further M&A or use of that cash today. But we never say never. We're always looking at great opportunities. This brand has a special opportunity down the road.

The next question is Chris O'Cull, Stifel.

Tara, I know the comp has moved around in the past few months, but the average look with sales has been - seemed pretty steady in the low $60,000 range. So I'm just wondering, is there a reason the restaurant margin would be much different in the first quarter-to-date period as what we saw in the fourth quarter?

Well, I mean, right now, Chris, we're not giving guidance, as I explained, just because the operating environment continues to be so hard to predict. So as you think about our margin, we've touched on sort of the major drivers in that. Obviously, sales is first and foremost, right? The margin in our business follows sales. In our cost of sales line, we expect packaging to remain elevated. That will be through the first quarter and potentially beyond. Albeit within food cost, we don't expect any major inflationary or deflationary moves in there. Labor, we touched on. We'll have mid - low to mid-single-digit inflation there with a combination of mandatory and discretionary increases in the labor line, as well as the fact that we're adding staff as we continue to anticipate this continued gradual sales recovery. So I think in the margin, as time goes on, we'll have these COVID-specific costs. At some point in the future, they'll start to lessen and roll off. And in the meantime, some additional costs will start to come back into the Shacks as sales recover. And it's really impossible to be precise about the timing of that transition. So very focused on just continuing to do the right things, spend the money when it comes to our teams, when it comes to safety, when it comes to enhancing guest experience, investing in sales driving initiatives. And that's really the focus, whilst obviously maintaining a close eye on profit. And it's proven that we are very - have been very disciplined in that generally whilst making the right decisions as we go. So just too hard to put a precise point on it right now on a quarter-by-quarter basis or even for 2021. So trying to give you a little bit of color without being able to, sort of, quantify at this point in time.

Let me ask it this way. Is there - I mean, I know that as sales recover, the margin performance, is it going to act in a linear fashion with that sales recovery. So is there a step function or a step - or an average weekly sales level where we should expect maybe a step improvement in - or a step change in the margin performance?

Not that I would call out. I mean, we've got labor - I think - not, but I would call outside of those major line items that I talked to. I mean the only thing I would say is you, I guess, as you compare Q4 margin in particular, is that obviously, we have the benefit of the 53rd week, which, as I mentioned, helped other OpEx at some degree in occupancy due to that fixed nature. We also had a $900,000 benefit in the fourth quarter from sort of year-end accounting adjustment to do with the termination of that Penn lease. So I think there are those two in mind as you look quarter-to-quarter. But other than that, I would just repeat those major trends in the line items that I've called out so far, labor, COGS, delivery commission is obviously a big one, and other OpEx, depending on how and where that continues to fluctuate. But outside of those, nothing else really to call out right now.

Okay. And just one last one. Once the company has delivery available on its own ecosystem, would the goal be to raise prices enough on the third-party delivery marketplaces so that you're really indifferent as to whether the order originates on a marketplace or your own platform?

Well, we want people to order however they want, okay? We want to have great partnerships with third party. We believe in the strength of those marketplaces and those opportunities. That said, we want to create our channel as the most preferred channel. We want it to be the best price, the most rewarding and the most engaging. And that will come in the form of various ways we'll connect with people on our channels, whether it's item specific, whether it's price over time. But look, our - the important thing for us is driving sales in all areas. And we think it's important to have a full digital toolbox that includes all of those, Chris. So I want to have them all. And tonight, when I were to mind, I'm ordering on the Shack app. And I'm going to have it brought to us by Uber Eats, who is our partner of delivery on the Shack app. And that's where I want to engage right now, and we'll see. We'll see how Street will choose to do that. And hopefully, they'll do a mix.

Next question is from Jeffrey Bernstein, Barclays.

Great. Maybe just a follow-up on that, just from the margin standpoint. Obviously, it's, like you said, very difficult to predict a month out. But I'm just wondering - let alone a quarter out. But can you maybe just provide some color in terms of just January, I know you said comps were down 5%. Maybe any directional color in terms of how margins are playing out just in the month of January, so we can get a frame of reference to how that compares as the comp improves so meaningfully from the fourth quarter.

Yes. I mean, Jeff, we're not giving mid-quarter guidance at this point. So nothing really to update when it comes to current margins right now, I'm afraid.

Okay. And then as we think about the full year '21 then? I mean, I know there's no specific guidance, but as people think about '21 getting back to '19 levels or at least that's kind of a talk for the broader industry, can you give any kind of directional thoughts in terms of whether '21 would be reasonable to assume back to '19 levels? I know back in '19, you achieved $80-plus million in EBITDA. But just wondering whether that's reasonable or whether just broadly speaking, you see the investments going through 2021 and the cost inflation making that difficult to return to '19 levels in the year '21?

Jeff, it's all going to be about sales recovery, right? I mean, if we can't - we've got to see the urban markets begin to come back. That's a high part of our - it's a big part of our company, still down and continue to be hurt. We need to see travel start to happen. We need to see a regular operating environment. And I think we're all some time away from that, right? We're encouraged for a continued recovery. We're encouraged to lap this, but I do think we're a long way away from Times Square being full of people, right? And that's just one visual that help you represent how that's going to change. Now I personally am an optimist, and I believe that cities are going to recover. I believe New York is going to recover, I hope, more quickly than most expect. I think travel will begin to come back. But it's going to take that. So I think it's very hard to answer that, and we're certainly not going to guide to that today in any real detail.

Got it. Just lastly, without giving guidance then, just in terms of maybe sensitivity, just to kind of frame it up, whether annual benefit to EBITDA or EPS from a point of comp or 100 basis points of margin or any kind of rough numbers. Again, not providing any specific guidance, but just a frame of reference.

Yes. No, nothing really to give on that right now, Jeff. Apologies. We've really - it is so challenging right now to be able to predict with any sort of accuracy on a go-forward basis, certainly over the next couple of quarters. So it seems if we have better line of sight to what we think this year is going to look like, we will absolutely update you. In the meantime, trying to give you as much color as possible in terms of what we do see on these various lines, but just can't quantify at this point when it comes to giving forward-looking guidance.

Jeff, it's Rik here. If you look at the supplemental Page 14, outside of what we've provided sort of in the prepared remarks in terms of our Q4, this is, I think, an area that can just sort of guide you without specific numbers, of course, in terms of what we feel that are going to be the major items in 2021.

The next question is from Andrew Charles, Cowen.

Randy, you talked earlier about the southeast, just broadly being more opening, and we're seeing that within industry data, that's been an outperformer. And the southeast for you guys looking at Page 8 of the supplemental has certainly been an outperformer and better than average. But can you talk about the dynamic of the northeast outpaced in the southeast. Just curious for you guys, just talking to the trend a little bit here why the southeast hasn't been the strongest region.

Well, yes. I mean, northeast, as you showed in the supplementals, was incredibly strong in January. It just had a really straight line, obviously, until this February, a bit of a step back. But generally, the northeast has recovered really well as has southeast with the same kind of smaller step back. But I think these are big regions. They're hard to pin down, one reason or another. I think when we look at the northeast outside of New York City, we've been pretty strong. We've named that. That's really the core suburban market, right? When we have our Shacks in New Jersey, Connecticut, Long Island, Boston suburbs. Those Shacks in the suburban model have recovered more quickly than the urban. In the southeast, we don't have a whole lot of what we deem to be urban Shacks, right? People are generally moving around normally in Florida, right, for the most part, not quite the same in Atlanta, but still pretty good. So it really is a tale of every city and how you - I was, in the same day, a couple of weeks ago in a mall in New Jersey that was packed and outside of everyone wearing masks, you would have thought the world was perfect. And then I came home to Manhattan, and it was a ghost town, and it was fascinating to experience that in the same day. And that right there is what you see in our charts on 7, 8 of the supplemental that shows that recovery. So look, I think that - Andrew, I'll say it this way, and I've said this a couple of times during the last 6 months. The way we're looking at the business, where we are up, does it make sense that we're up? Yes. And where we are down, does it make sense that we are down? Yes, with very few examples of the opposite. So that encourages us to see how the flow is going to go and to see how the company is recovering over time.

Okay. And then just one nitty-gritty question. When you get delivery orders through the app, that's obviously going to present a benefit to data collection. But as we think about other OpEx, just qualitatively, will you also see a more favorable commission or cost structure for those orders relative to commission paid on third-party marketplaces?

Andrew, we haven't quantified the extent to which there's any difference in those. But I think the sort of high-level assumption that I would take if I were you that there isn't really one and that delivery is an expensive channel. It costs to get food delivered, whether that order is taken through a third-party marketplace or taken through our app. So it remains an expensive channel. It will remain a cost or a drag on the other OpEx line, while delivery remains high. But as you rightly point out, from a data collection perspective and just owning the transaction and being able to then build on that relationship with the guests on a go-forward basis, the opportunity to drive long-term value through a delivery transaction on our channel versus a delivery transaction with a third-party is obviously wildly different.

And Andrew, the opportunity to market there, right? The opportunity for us to wake up one day and say, "Hey, we want to do free delivery on our site, right, on our app." The opportunity to digitally market differently to drive sales, that obviously comes with a cost, is - really opens up now.

We have a question from Brian Mullan, Deutsche Bank.

Follow-up on some of the prior commentary on decreased competition and increased real estate opportunities. On the company-owned development side, is 45 to 50 units the new ceiling for what the organization can handle in a given year? Or does the company now maybe have built the capability of potentially opening even more than that, in theory if next year goes well. I know that might be getting greedy, but it would be great to get your thoughts too.

Yes. Look, we're not going to guide beyond what we just gave, which is 45 to 50. That's probably the appropriate feeling for next year with everything we know today. But look, you look at the history of this company. Outside of last year, every year since we've been a company, we've been able to grow a little - a few more Shacks a year. And we want to make sure we get to that optimal number where we're still building great restaurants. I do think our format evolution, drive through and the success of so many others that we've proven before that, gives us a lot of opportunity to look at and feel good about the acceleration in the next 2 years, and we'll keep you posted out for that.

Okay. And just a follow-up. On the domestic license business, Randy, you spoke to some of the COVID-related challenges in the prepared remarks. But as things return to normal, is your opportunity here even bigger than it otherwise would have been? Just curious how you're thinking about the business over the next several years. Has anything changed versus how you were...

Yes. I think we have, and we still have a big opportunity. In the domestic license business, really, where we're looking at that is, today, that is in airports, travel centers and stadium event businesses, those places have a long road to go here. Airports, you look at the flight data, there's a lot of companies that will say, it's a multiyear comeback. So it will be interesting to see how that shakes out. Our hope is that we have strong partnerships in airports and that we will continue to grow that. But just - here's a perfect example. JFK Terminal 4, we have 2 Shake Shacks that are 2 of the strongest Shacks in the system. And they're closed. They have been closed for a year. And there is no sign as to when that will open. That's 2 powerful Shake Shacks. So it's - and LAX was one of the busiest Shacks in our company. And the terminal is gone, they're tearing it down completely because of COVID and a change. So this is going to be a weird world, I think, in airports for a little while. That said, we were really off and running in airports in an exciting way. So I expect there's going to be a bright future for Shake Shack in airports. The other thing is we're going to open - we have one on a roadside in New Jersey. And we're going to open our second, I hope this year in what's called the Vince Lombardi area. Anyone who's driven the New Jersey turnpike out of New York City will know that, that's one of the busiest and high-traffic type of areas. We want to do more of those. We want to change the dialogue on what it means to pull over to get gas and get fed in a way that's entirely different from the traditional fast food experience. So I'm hopeful we can get some more of that. But we got to see everybody getting back in their cars, planes and get moving again.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I'd like to turn the conference back over to Randy Garutti for closing remarks. Mr. Garutti?

Thanks, everyone. I know we've run over, and we didn't get to every question, so we'll have - anyone who has questions, feel free to reach out another time. Really appreciate you all being with us tonight and stay safe. Thank you.

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