Michael Benstock
Analyst · Barrington Research. Please go ahead
Sure. Let me break it out in some pieces. It's a good question, Kevin. I expected that this would come up, if not today, then someday in the future. HPI certainly has had their challenges. And HPI today, you recognize is most of our - it's about half our Uniform business and it is our employee ID part of our non-health care side of our Uniform business. And as we've said on past conference calls, we saw the delays of 2017 and 2018s, and we see the pipelines fuller now. We have seen a lot of turnover among the people that we were dealing with. Really, literally, I've never seen anything like this before in our history. I personally believe it's a good thing. Yes, some of our relationships are changing out. But as I say so are the relationships with 94% of companies that we don't deal with. When you look at our market share, it's about a 6% market share on the Uniform side of the business. So I'm very excited that more opportunities than ever are in front of us. Certainly, there are some that are much bigger, and I look at those. You get one of those, it moves the needle a lot. And you're not going to get one of those every year. There aren't more than a few of those that even come up as a possibility in a given year. But every few years, we will win one of those, and that will - just as we did years ago with a major airline if you recall, right after we bought HPI and we had major quick service restaurant chain that they took on. And those things do move the needle, and they will, for us, in the future, too. But we're not relying on those few, big opportunities that you get every single year. There's still literally hundreds of opportunities in the course of a year that come up. We've got to be better at identifying them. I think we're pretty good, but we could be better. We are getting in front of more people. I can tell you that people that traveled for us last year on behalf of HPI and our that whole employee ID segment were road warriors and traveled more than they had ever traveled before and that was to get in front of mostly customers that they had not been in front of before. We've spoken about it in the last couple of conference calls that we don't think we're going to see any lift from this or have any new great news from this until really you get later on in this year and that still holds true. Now let's look the health care side of our business; to start with Fashion Seal Healthcare. We've talked about Fashion Seal Healthcare being in a very commoditized, mature market that really hasn't had a lot of excitement in it for many, many years. And remember, at one point, we were trying to sell direct, and then we backed off that strategy. And we had a modicum of success, but we backed off that strategy. We bought CID because CID's model was to sell indirectly through retailers. And I can tell you, I have never seen Fashion Seal Healthcare more energized, not in my 40 years here, long time. And with the collaboration between them and CID, we're going to see great things out of these two divisions working together. And I have to tell you, now this is - was not an intended consequence of this acquisition. We believe CID, on its own, brought enough to the marketplace. But what the President of Fashion Seal Healthcare and the President and all the leaders of CID and the leadership of those two teams have done has created probably the most synergistic opportunities that I've seen in this company in many, many years. And yes, it's product driven, so we're developing products around that, that will meet the marketplace for each side of that equation. That does take time. You develop it then you put in purchase orders, and you don't get product in for six months. So you can't sell it. But I am telling you that the - that what is happening between Fashion Seal Healthcare and CID is the most exciting thing that's happened in our company in a long time on the Uniform side of our business and will drive future growth in this company beyond most of our expectations. I'm very encouraged by what's going on. I believe we have really - just as we picked a winner when we bought HPI years ago. That was our largest acquisition at that time, and that certainly did wonderful things for our company. I think the same is true with CID over the long haul and but you just got to be patient. Andy speaks about distractions. Of course, they were. I don't think we've been distracted since we bought CID. I think the distraction comes from CID having been distracted for almost nine months before they sold their business to us. And actually, if you think about all the preparation that went into preparing decks and working with consultants, it's probably a two-year distraction they had before we bought them, which definitely flattened out their business. They were on an incredible trajectory, 20% something CAGR year after year after year, and they were doing great. And they flattened out in 2017 prior to the acquisition. In 2018, pretty flat as well, even down a little bit. But part of that is because they did not have the resources to go through a process with an investment banking firm, and also, at the same time, manage to develop all the products. So from a product development standpoint, it definitely slowed them down. They didn't develop new collections. They didn't develop as many new lines. I can tell you that the week after we closed on our transaction, they sent a very large team to - of their design staff to Hanoi to begin developing of three collections at one time, all of which have been very, very well received out in the market, actually out in the marketplace now selling probably three of the best received lines, created a great buzz out in the marketplace for what these products are, the fabrics, the silhouettes, every - the fit, everything. We hit a home run with this one, and you'll know more about that in the future as you start to see CID's numbers improve. But I feel very good from a product development standpoint that they've expanded their capability to do product development. I have to tell you, I went and visited their Hanoi office earlier in the year, and I might have mentioned this on the last call. I don't remember if I went there before right or right after. I think it was after, actually. And I was amazed. I was so amazed that I took the people from our other divisions, Fashion Seal Healthcare from the design side and from our sourcing side. I said, “You guys need to go to Hanoi and see what's going on there.” They have created a wonderful environment there that we're - the entire company now is going to capitalize on and working with us to bring products to market sooner. So I'm very encouraged by what's going on in the Uniform side. I'd love to tell you I was pleased with last year's results, but I'm not pleased with last year's results. I don't think in all the years we've been doing this, even when we had double-digit increases, I ever said I was pleased with our results. I think one time I talked about them being epic because we did have that one epic quarter way back when. But I'm not satisfied, and we're working real hard to improve that as well as on the operational efficiency side. And the operational efficiency is not just to create, to contain costs or lower costs. It's also to provide better service to our customers at a lower cost. And a lot of things Andy and Mike spoke about are things that we're right in the middle of doing. Long answer. Sorry for the long answer, but I think I cut it.