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Seaport Entertainment Group Inc. (SEG)

Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 5, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Seaport Entertainment Group Inc. Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press 0 on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Jason Wilk, Senior Vice President of Finance. Please go ahead.

Jason Wilk

Management

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. With me today is our President and Chief Executive Officer, Matthew Morris Partridge, and our Chief Financial Officer, Lina Eliwat. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that many of our comments today are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities law. The company's actual future results may differ significantly from the matters discussed in these forward-looking statements, and we undertake no duty to update these statements. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are disclosed from time to time in greater detail in the company's Form 10-Ks, Form 10-Qs, and other SEC filings. You can find our SEC reports, earnings release, and quarterly supplemental information on our website at seaportentertainment.com. I will now turn the call over to Matthew.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Thanks, Jason, and good morning, everyone. As we outlined during our inaugural earnings call last March, our focus in the first full year as a stand-alone public company was to address multiple opportunities for improvement, including outsized priorities within the Seaport, as we work to position the organization as a scalable real estate-centric hospitality and entertainment company. Looking back and taking stock of our accomplishments, we made tremendous progress in 2025 and year to date 2026, addressing these opportunities. Some of our more notable achievements in 2025 include generating a 24% year-over-year improvement in our net loss, a 49% year-over-year improvement in our non-GAAP adjusted net loss, leasing, programming, and finalizing development plans for approximately 153,000 square feet across the Seaport, including signing agreements with Meow Wolf, Planker Kitchen and Sports Bar, Hidden Boots Saloon, Willits NYC, Cork Wine Bar, and other exciting additions I will discuss shortly, internalizing food and beverage operations across many of our company wholly owned and joint venture owned restaurants in the Seaport neighborhood, Las Vegas Aviators winning the 2025 Pacific Coast League championship, the franchise's first PCL title since 1988, and hosting and competing in the Minor League Baseball Triple-A National Championship Game, further establishing the Seaport as a premier event destination by hosting multiple rooftop and neighborhood-wide marquee events, including more than 60 concerts, the Macy’s Fourth of July Fireworks, and the New York City Wine and Food Festival, and putting 250 Water Street under contract to sell, which subsequently closed last month, early February. The process of finalizing the sale of 250 Water Street was longer than anticipated. After completing additional diligence and evaluating market conditions, we believe this transaction represented the best risk-adjusted outcome for the company. The transaction will generate net proceeds of approximately million after we work through some…

Lina Eliwat

Management

Thanks, Matt. Before I get into the company's fourth quarter and full year financial performance, I would like to remind everyone of some changes made at the start of 2025, including renaming our Sponsorship, Events, and Entertainment segment to Entertainment. In conjunction with this change, we reallocated sponsorship and events revenues and expenses to the respective segments that most appropriately reflect the source of the sponsorship or event. These changes are reflected in both the current and prior-year periods presented on our consolidated and combined statements of operations. Beginning in 2025, and in conjunction with the internalization of our food and beverage operations, we consolidated the Tin Building into our Hospitality segment. In prior years, the Tin Building was accounted for as an unconsolidated joint venture, and our share of net loss was reflected in the equity in earnings or losses from unconsolidated ventures line on our consolidated and combined statements of operations. In an effort to provide more comparable information, we will refer to the 2024 operating results on a pro forma basis reflecting the inclusion of the Tin Building as a consolidated entity during the prior-year period when providing year-over-year comparisons on this call. In addition, we will reference operating EBITDA, which excludes losses on assets held for sale, impairment charges, and other nonrecurring items included in other income or loss related to the segment or on a consolidated basis, to provide more comparable operating results. Fourth quarter and full year 2025 net loss attributable to common stockholders was $36.9 million and $116.7 million, respectively, representing a year-over-year improvement of 11% for Q4 2025 and 24% for the full year 2025. On a per share basis, net loss attributable to common stockholders was $2.89 in Q4 2025 and $9.18 for the full year 2025, representing a 2045% improvement,…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press 1 on your telephone keypad. You may press 2 to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Our first question comes from Matthew Erdner with JonesTrading. Please go ahead.

Matthew Erdner

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on all the progress so far. Lina, you just mentioned that you guys have $163 million cash pro forma. How much of that is committed to, you know, current projects and getting them online at the Seaport? And then with whatever is remaining there, you know, what are you guys kind of targeting there for deployment?

Lina Eliwat

Management

Hey, Matt. Good morning. So we spent about $30 million in 2025 in capital. With our expectation for everything we have announced plus existing vacancy to get to stabilization is another—we expect around another $70 to $90 million. We had initially said at the onset a range of $100 to $125 million to get to stabilization. So I believe we are still, you know, expecting to target something within that range.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Hey, Matt. In terms of capital allocation, you know, we are sort of at the front end of this. Obviously, we have been focused on the existing asset base. I think we are going to look at a lot of different things. Right? We are evaluating or we are starting to evaluate opportunities in the hospitality, entertainment, and event spaces. Obviously, that is core to what we are doing at the Seaport and what we do out in Las Vegas at the ballpark. I think we could potentially look at other assets similar to the Seaport, we could look at companies that operate within those businesses that have scalable intellectual property and brand recognition. But we could also be opportunistic and utilize the buyback program that we announced from a capital allocation standpoint and effectively reinvest into the company, depending on where the stock is trading. So we are going to be opportunistic. And I do not think we have any definitive path yet because we are sort of at the forefront of evaluating the opportunity. So—

Matthew Erdner

Analyst

Got it. That makes sense, and that is helpful. And then you know, you mentioned on the event space, kind of that 20% return there. Are there any internal hurdles that you guys are looking to achieve, you know, as you guys deploy this cash?

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

I think it depends on the business. You know, obviously, the hospitality space is notorious for relatively low margins. I think the events business is a much better margin-oriented business. I think where we see some opportunity potentially is to leverage the existing team. We have a lot of talent in the building, and obviously, they are doing a great job executing on what we have. So if we can find things that complement the existing skill set, that is going to improve the flow-through of whatever we allocate capital to. So it is a moving target. I would not say we have any hard and fast financial targets yet, but, you know, we are obviously focused on growing earnings as efficiently as possible with the best flow-through possible.

Matthew Erdner

Analyst

Yep. Yep. Got it. And then, you know, as it relates to the remaining space at the Seaport, you know, have you had any discussions there? And then, you know, I guess, what additional growth do you think that can drive on top of the—call it, $33 million, $32 million of EBITDA that has been leased.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Yeah. So we have, like Lina said—or maybe I said in the prepared remarks—we have got a little over 50,000 square feet left. You know, I would say a third of that is probably restaurant-oriented space, and it also includes the former Malibu Farm space. So we will be looking at some restaurant concepts that are complementary to all the stuff that we have announced and what still exists at the Seaport. I think beyond that, you know, we have got the Balloon Museum coming. We have Meow Wolf coming. We have the event space, and then we have the Rooftop at Pier 17 concert series. That is a great set of anchors. And then the removal of the Tin Building F&B, you know, I think that the anchor—or the amount of people that the anchors will drive—will benefit all the businesses, and then pulling some of the food and beverage supply out with the closure of the Tin Building and positioning it to Balloon Museum is going to help all the other F&B that we have either announced exist down here or that we will look to fill the existing vacancy with.

Matthew Erdner

Analyst

Got it. Got it. And then, you know, as it relates to kind of the special events, you know, you had the Wine and Food Festival last year. You know, do you have anything set up like that so far across the year? Is it, you know, going to be event-driven stuff like you said around the World Cup, you know, people going to the bars, interacting in the cobblestones and whatnot?

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Yeah. I think Sadie’s is definitely going to be a unique asset for us to program around. The Lawn Club has been very successful doing a lot of corporate events and social event-related business. And so I think those two concepts with the open container that we announced are going to give us a lot of flexibility. We are going to look at everything from doing concerts on the cobblestones or concerts out on the pier—obviously, we do them up on the Rooftop as well. I think FIFA and the World Cup are going to be a unique event this year. It is also America’s 250-year anniversary. So there will be a lot of activity during the summer around that, especially with the Fourth of July fireworks. We are going to do a lot of programming around cultural events and sporting events because I think, you know, whether it is watch parties, whether it is community-oriented events like what we have coming up this weekend around Holi, you know, we are going to do a lot of stuff down here, which I think will bring a lot of people down to the Seaport. It will give them an opportunity to experience everything we have down here, and it will support the businesses that we have got down here.

Matthew Erdner

Analyst

Yeah. Yeah. That is awesome. And then last one for me, and I will step out. Lina, you touched on it a little bit about G&A, but is there anything that we should expect kind of as a run rate throughout the year?

Lina Eliwat

Management

We have definitely been trending positively throughout the year on G&A, stabilizing our organizational structure, working through technology initiatives. We hope to continue that trend into 2026. Right now, I think Q4 is our new reference point, and we are continuing to try and refine that. But I would use Q4 as our reference point for right now.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Yeah. I think it will be a little up and down, Matt. You know, Q1 is going to have some transitional costs related to the closures that we have announced, plus some other changes to the team. And then I think that will benefit us in the back half of the year. But it will be a little up and down this year. But I think, to Lina’s point, Q4 is a good reference point moving forward, and hopefully we can improve upon it.

Matthew Erdner

Analyst

Got it. Awesome. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it, and look forward to the continued progress.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Thanks, Matt. Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Operator

Next question, Patrick Stedelhofer with Kahn Brothers Group. Please go ahead.

Patrick Stedelhofer

Analyst

Hey, good morning, and congrats on all the recent announcements.

Lina Eliwat

Management

Thanks, Patrick.

Patrick Stedelhofer

Analyst

My first question is around the kind of criteria for the buyback. You have this great slide on the deck that shows that, you know, the stock is trading at $0.50 of a dollar or probably less than that. And, obviously, that is a great hurdle rate. And so a lot of companies use buybacks on weakness, but you could argue the stock has—it's been all weakness. So I am just curious what would cause you to pull the trigger on this buyback program, kind of when would you ramp it up? And how do you think about allocating it given what an incredible return on investment you can earn by doing this buyback program, which we are very happy to see.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

I appreciate the question. You know, for the buyback program, we will not put out any public comments related to parameters or timing. We will report after things are executed on, if and when we use it. Obviously, we think the stock is undervalued, especially given the slide that you are referencing in our supplemental. But we are also cognizant that we are building an organization that can grow over time, and we have relatively limited float. So that is always a consideration when you are using buybacks. This is my fifth public company that I have been part of. We have had buyback programs at all but one of them, and we use them opportunistically. And I think opportunistic is the approach that we will use, but that ultimately will be a Board decision, and we will continue to have those conversations with the Board as we look at the performance of the stock and our relative alternatives from a capital allocation perspective.

Patrick Stedelhofer

Analyst

Got it. And then the new Balloon Museum, just how do you view that as either complementing or competing with the Meow Wolf experience coming a year later? Just how do these two go together?

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Great question. You know, I think the Balloon Museum is definitely complementary. Both of those teams—the Meow Wolf team and the Balloon Museum—know each other, and there is a lot of mutual respect for one another. We spoke with Meow Wolf before moving forward with the Balloon Museum, and they were very supportive of it. So they are going to be complementary to one another. They are both ticketed experiences. They both have done very well in other markets. The Balloon Museum was here in 2023 and did exceptionally well a little farther up the river on Pier 36. So, you know, I think activity breeds more, and having them both open down here really gives the local population, New Yorkers, visitors—everybody—sort of a full-day opportunity to spend at the Seaport. Right? You can come down here for brunch, you can go to the Balloon Museum, you can have lunch, you can go to the Seaport Museum or do some shopping, stay for dinner and a concert, go out to some bars. So we are really trying to create a district that can support the local community because we have got a growing residential population down here, but that can also be a destination for an entire day for a family, a couple, an individual, or anybody in between.

Patrick Stedelhofer

Analyst

That is great. And on this apartment building you are monetizing or maybe monetizing, could you provide any more details around—kind of is it fully leased? Is it cash flowing? Just anything you can share about what you might be able to achieve by monetizing that asset.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

It is cash flowing. You know, there is a component of the units that are rent-stabilized. It is almost 100% leased. I think we have one or two vacant units. It has got a lot of interest. Obviously, we launched it at the end of 2025, the marketing process, knowing that it would be sort of a slow process to end the year and start the year, but the interest is definitely ramped up. So, you know, unlike 250 Water Street where we had some disclosure obligations related to the materiality of that sale, we will probably speak more to 85 South Street if and when we sell it rather than providing more real-time updates, just because providing real-time updates can sometimes put us at a competitive disadvantage when we are trying to work through a transaction.

Patrick Stedelhofer

Analyst

Understood. Every bit helps. And then last one from us, just how do you think about Vegas versus New York? Obviously, you have a lot happening at the Seaport and you are kind of local there. How do the Vegas properties still fit into the company given both the geographic remoteness of it and all the—just the less news from there. Thanks a lot.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Yeah. I think, look, in Las Vegas, we have got a phenomenal facility with the ballpark. You know, it is at the center of Howard Hughes’s Summerlin community that they continue to add amenities to and grow the population around the ballpark. The fan base of the Aviators is largely a local population, so we would love to see Howard Hughes continuing to invest in that project. That ultimately will inure benefit to the baseball team. I think things like Enchant are where we can add a lot of value—doing 40 days of holiday activation and bringing that in-house and, ultimately, over the long term, being able to implement better cost controls and be a little more creative from a ticketing perspective because we have got a great ticketing team out there. Doing things like that in the off-season is only going to help the profitability of that overall operation out there. So I think we have got some room to create value. That being said, you know, I think live sports is a great business. It is a business that has seen tremendous value appreciation over time. So, you know, if and when somebody has an interest in the team, we will always listen. But I think we would pay some pretty high premium on the team and the ballpark given the quality of the facility and the quality of the operation that we have out there.

Patrick Stedelhofer

Analyst

Wonderful. Thank you so much.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Thanks, Patrick.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I would like to turn the floor over to Matt for closing remarks.

Matthew Morris Partridge

Management

Thanks, everybody. Appreciate the interest and support. We look forward to providing more updates on our first quarter earnings call in early May. Have a great rest of the week.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.