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SolarEdge Technologies, Inc. (SEDG)

Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, May 9, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day everyone and welcome to the SolarEdge Conference Call for the First Quarter ended March 31, 2018. This call is being webcast live on the company’s website at www.solaredge.com in the Investors section, on the Event Calendar page. This call is sole property and copyright of SolarEdge with all rights reserved, and any recordings, reproduction or transmission of this call without the expressed written consent of SolarEdge is prohibited. You may listen to a webcast replay of this call by visiting the Event Calendar page of the SolarEdge investor website. I would now like to turn the conference over to Erica Mannion, at Sapphire Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Investor Relations for SolarEdge.

Erica Mannion

Management

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us to discuss SolarEdge’s operating results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2018, as well as the company’s outlook for the second quarter of 2018. With me today are; Guy Sella, Founder, Chairman and CEO; and Ronen Faier, Chief Financial Officer. Guy will begin with a brief review of the results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2018. Ronen will review the financial results for the first quarter and provide the company’s outlook for the second quarter of 2018. Then we will open the call for questions. Please note that this call will include forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from management’s current expectations. We encourage you to review the Safe Harbor Statements contained in our press release and the slides published today for a more complete description. All material contained in the webcast is a sole property and copyrights SolarEdge Technologies with all rights reserved. Please note this presentation described certain non-GAAP measures, including non-GAAP net income and non-GAAP net diluted earnings per share, which are not measures prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. The non-GAAP measures are presented in this presentation as we believe it will provide investors with the means of evaluating and understanding how the Company’s management evaluates the Company’s operating performance. These non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation from, as a substitute for, or superior to financial measures prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. Listeners who do not have a copy of the quarter ended March 31, 2018 press release or the presentation may obtain a copy by visiting the Investor section of the Company’s website. Now, I will turn the call over to CEO, Guy Sella.

Guy Sella

Management

Thank you Erica. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on our conference call. We concluded our first quarter with revenues of approximately $210 million, up 11% from last quarter and an increase of 82% from the same quarter last year. We’re reporting GAAP gross margin of 37.9% and non GAAP net diluted earnings per share of $0.87 for the first quarter. In the quarter ended March 31, 2018, we shipped 800 megawatts of AC nameplate inverters. Overall, we ship 2.5 million power optimizers and 100,000 inverters. We continue to see healthy diversification of our business, both geography and product mix. Specifically, this quarter’s sales in the United States accounted for 57% of revenues. Sales from Europe accounted for 30% of revenues and sales from the Rest of the World, primarily, Australia accounted for 13% of our revenues. Our product mix revealed further expansion of our commercial sales which compromise 37% of megawatts ship this quarter. Looking at our bottom line numbers our non GAAP net income hit a record high of $42.6 or $0.87 per share and we generated record cash from operations amounting to $64 million. Moving to the business front, we have newsworthy updates. Last week we announced in OHSAS product for grid and solar fleet operators. This is a cloud base aggregation software product that allows turning multiple solar and storage system into a virtual power plant. We believe that adding grid services capabilities to our current product offering will increase our differentiation and competitiveness. While, we do not expect these services to impact our revenues in 2018 in any significant manner, one such services gain market acceptance, they are expected to generate recurring revenues at high margin. As you may know today, we also issued a press release announcing the definitive agreement for acquisition…

Ronen Faier

Management

Thank you Guy. And good afternoon everyone. Before starting to review of our financial results for the first quarter of 2018, I would like to remind listeners that while the overview will be on a GAAP basis, in certain cases I will be discussing non GAAP numbers and measures which exclude the impact of the newly adopted revenue recognition standard, stock based compensation, one time asset disposal, one time transition tax and deferred tax as well as non GAAP earnings per share. Full reconciliation of the pro forma to GAAP results discussed on this call is available on our website and in the press release issued today. Now let’s start with the financial results for the first quarter of 2018, so it’s on revenues were up $209.9 million an 11% increase compared to 189.3 million last quarter and an 82% increase compared to 115.1 million for the same quarter last year. A record revenues this quarter, which overcame the typical seasonal slowdown were driven by strong momentum in all regions. These quarter revenues from the United States reached $118.9 and represented 56.7% of our overall quarterly revenues. Sales in Europe were 64.1 million and 30.5% of our quarterly revenue. We continue to generate solid revenues from the Netherlands and Germany, while also growing revenues in other countries in Europe. Revenue generated from sales outside of the United States and Europe continued to grow and reached a record high of $26.9 million representing 12.8% of our total revenue. From a customer concentration perspective, our top 10 customers represented 59.1% of our quarterly revenue, a decreased from the last quarter while only one customer accounted for more than 10% of revenues. On a per watt basis, blended ASP slightly increased this quarter mainly due to geographic and product mix and a slight…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the question and answer session will be conducted electronically. [Operator Instructions] And your first question will come from Mark Strouse with JP Morgan.

Mark Strouse

Analyst

Hey guys. Good evening. Thanks for taking our questions. So I just wanted to start with the acquisition if I can. So understand the elimination of the public company costs and some of the costs synergy you can expect. Can you just provide a bit more color? Are there any revenue synergies to talk about as far as the technologies or any of the sales channels or anything like that?

Guy Sella

Management

Hi. Thank you for the question. So, as far as sales channels, UPS market and solar inverters are quite different, so we’re not expecting to be able to leverage our sales channels. From all other perspective, the UPS is very similar to inverters. So in nature you convert a DC to AC. The technology wise per se is very, very similar. So we are planning to leverage, of course our typologies, it will come in the second phase, our operational excellence or ability to produce much cheaper, much faster, big volumes, our cost reduction capabilities that was proven in the last few years. And all in all, it is a much easier market from perspective of the cost per watt and warranty to people that are used to inverter. So just to give the proportion, every selling price for even smaller UPS is already around $0.10, $0.11 per watt, which is more than what you see similar three phase inverter’s in commercial applications. While, those inverters are fit indoor only though the product itself, the cheaper to produce and comes with only one year warranty. And on the other hand, it’s usually come at the higher percentage with a service contract. So you’re going to get recurrent revenue from a maintaining such installations. So all in all we think this is a perfect new business for our current capabilities to leverage.

Mark Strouse

Analyst

Okay? Okay. Thanks Guy. And then switching gears, I knew it just came out, but just wanted to get your initial take on the 0aw that just passed in California requiring a rooftop solar on new home construction, how material that might be to SolarEdge?

Guy Sella

Management

So that’s something that we are not experts in your building and what will be the mandatory size. These types of regulations are available in Europe for quite some time in UK, Netherlands and in few other countries. Usually most people are installing smaller under this mandatory law, people are installing a smaller system, usually four to eight panels. We just came out with a perfect product for such a installation. It’s a subset of HD way, the smaller invertible physically and an optimizer can that can be connected to four, five, six, seven or eight, the PV modules. So we’re well set for such a market in Europe, of course in California will be at a great addition. I’m not the expert in the amount of new houses in California to estimate the potential growth for the portable type market in California due to this regulation.

Mark Strouse

Analyst

Okay, that’s helpful. That’s it for us. Thank you very much.

Guy Sella

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

From Roth Capital Partners, Philip Shen.

Philip Shen

Analyst

Hey guys congrats on the great results. Had a quick follow-up on a Gamatronics. You talked about, the second phase of work being focused on topology, kind of going a little bit bigger picture if ‘17 revenues were 90 million. In ‘18 is in terms - modest in terms of contribution, what kind of revenue could we see in 2019? And historically, with the market size being 7 billion for UPS and then being on 19 million, you know that that’s a small share. So what is the plan to gain share? How quickly do you think you could gain share? And which and markets specifically would you plan to attack for that share again? And then finally, can you speak to - is there kind of synergistic sales at all? I mean, what is beyond the cost synergies and so forth, what other synergies do you imagine and envision? I know there’s a lot there. Thanks for taking that long first question.

Guy Sella

Management

So I will try. So I would expect that in the first 12 months. So let’s assume we’ll finish date. Did the closing by the end of the quarter, I think in the first 12 months, I wouldn’t expect a dramatic growth in the run rate of the company. I think in the following 12 months. I think we are supposed to be able to grow significantly in such a market mainly due to the fact that the company as it operates today, Gamatronic suffer from lack of resources and in many aspects, older time priorities and managerial priorities once it comes to marketing and sales budget. While, I don’t think we can leverage the current sales people, we’ll leverage, of course, the infrastructure of the offices abroad and support office and customer service in all of those geographies were the obvious first two geographies to focus on will be the U.S. and Europe. I think it’s no different than what we did in 2010. We started a number 200 in the world or whatever it was, the number with zero sales and we simply came to the biggest market with right offering and the right price point and managed to take market share slowly, but surely. I think that here we’re starting with a very good product. Gamatronic developed a very good modular UPS system. It almost all right sizes and have a perfect fit of product for a data centers. Now we need to increase their competitiveness with what I already described. And then dramatically improve the sales and marketing of the company based on the knowledge that we aggregate in the last 10 years, the last eight years. I think that, like any other market that you are learning, it won’t be simple, but I think it’s very doable. And I would expect that from the position we are, we would be able to take market share fast and in an effective way while increasing the profitability of this business within SolarEdge.

Philip Shen

Analyst

Great. Thanks. So shifting to you disappeared…

Guy Sella

Management

So you said shifting and then we hear you.

Philip Shen

Analyst

I’m sorry. Okay. I said shifting to margins. I think you mentioned Ronen mentioned on the call that you guys are at the higher end of the range now a result of that. Uh, you know, historically we’ve said in the past is that you might as perhaps give some concessions with pricing, some of our checks, you know, heading to the results today suggests that indeed you may have been getting some price concessions, and not be trading off margin meaningfully. And so can you speak to that at all? Are you able to kind of reduce pricing a little bit to help additional customers out and at the same time maintaining profitability, strong profitability? And then also comments on any share shifts to expect ahead? Do you expect to kind of accelerate some of your share gains as a result of perhaps being at the higher end of the margin range and being able to win some, some additional customers?

Guy Sella

Management

I think, we elaborated in the last two calls, but in general, we’re not expecting to do anything dramatically. What we feel that we are on one hand that the healthy growth margin, on the other hand a push from component suppliers, from the perspective of component suppliers there is also demand for the at least 18 months. And we’re constantly fighting to requests for increase of component prices. So some of these will balance increase of component prices, some of it will be dedicated ability to lower prices in big project or in geographies which are a more competitive on price such as India, et cetera. But in general, I think that our current price of both residential and commercial are very healthy and allow us to take market share with, as we stabled in the beginning of Q2. So I’m not expecting any dramatic shift in prices in the next six to nine months. We will use the disability to take a big project, win new project or to close important deals, but nothing that will be a wider or a more extensive than that.

Operator

Operator

And we’ll go to Jeff Osborne with Cowen and Company.

Jeffrey Osborne

Analyst

Yeah. Good afternoon. I just had a couple of questions. Guy, I was wondering if you could characterize the M&A funnel. It’s nice to see you move forward. But the size of the acquisition I guess was a little smaller than I think I was expecting just given the cash flow that you guys are off on a quarterly basis. Can you talk about, is this something routinely that maybe we could see two to three small tuck in deals like this a year? Or is that -- maybe outside the realm of your thinking?

Guy Sella

Management

So we -- I think we also gave the color on that. We are working with quite many options to get into a understanding of potential deals early enough. While we didn’t do any large acquisition, we are not against doing a large acquisition. If we’ll find the case, were the multiplier is similar to SolarEdge and the company is healthy and profitable. We were looking for such companies in quite some segments that we believe are adjustment in a healthy way to what we do. One example is the smart meters, another example he said, demand response. In all of those -- another signal in other example is batteries we didn’t find none of them are companies that were in the position that, that were -- you could buy them and were healthy in structure and were profitable. But we keep looking. So it’s just -- I guess it’s matter of timing and luck and the hard work. At the end we’ll be very happy to, to grow our business not only organically.

Jeffrey Osborne

Analyst

Makes Sense. I just had a couple of quick ones on the solar side, you typically talk about each quarter, so I might’ve missed it. But can you give the C&I mix in the quarter run in and the a percentage that was HD-wave. Just I’m trying to get a sense of the product cycle. Is that fully implemented? And then just lastly it always comes up, but any commentary about pricing and the second half of the year, any change that 7.5% to 10% annual decline that you typically see just especially in light of the mix impacting pricing this quarter with it being up slightly?

Guy Sella

Management

I think there were three questions here. So HD-wave is 100% implemented in all on grid. The only a version of phase one, phase inverter’s that is not HD, the backup sold in the US. That will be the last day in work to be converted to HD sometime in 2000, probably end of this year, beginning of 2019. Regarding prices, I think I gave the filling. We’re not expecting a broader ASP erosion in the coming two quarters. I think price is supposed to be quite stable, while at the same time we might use our ability to be more competitive on very large project or a specific bids, especially in countries where the price pressure is a more a brutal such as India, maybe Turkey, etcetera. Last question or the last part and the question was C&I. I think it was megawatt wise 37%.

Jeffrey Osborne

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

And we’ll go to Edwin Mok with Needham and Company.

Edwin Mok

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. First, maybe throw down with C&I part little bit. I noticed that you, U.S. sells is roughly flat for this quarter of the rest of the U.S. down. So is it fair to assume that a commercial and U.S. crew this year offset declines resi and any way you can quantify how much with commercial in U.S. roughly at least?

Ronen Faier

Management

So we generally do not break in or between commercial and residential, between the various geographies. However, as we noted in the last few quarters, you generally see a phenomena where if, say the ratio to be relatively similar between the U.S. and rest of the world today, with the exception of certain regions like India or places where you see only C&I. But all in all, I think that if you have the 37% of a C&I, I would say the giver or take U.S. and on us is about the same number.

Edwin Mok

Analyst

Okay, great. Ronen, let me stick with you. On the deal anyway, you can’t give us the margin profile of this business, obviously it is similar to a SolarEdge higher margin in general, low margin and in terms of costs of solar OpEx is it more expensive business to run, any color Ronen?

Ronen Faier

Management

Okay. So let’s start from the margin. Actually, the margin profile today of this business is a very close to our. But this is given the fact that to Gamatronic businesses relatively smaller than ours. So from a, although you see today similar margins, the potential there is relatively good given the fact that once we will be able to lean a little bit more on our economies of scale, on our ability to better source and operate the little bit more effectively. Given the size of our operations, we believe that we can even improve them to be a better than the margins that you see on Solar today. When it comes to OpEx, again, I think that there are two things that needs to be differentiated. The first one is that Gamatronics is a standalone company used to be a publicly traded company. And as you know, being a publicly traded company means that you still need to have a relatively extensive G&A expenses simply to comply all of the regulations of being a traded company. Once these are taken out and again, once we will see that we will be able to leverage on some of our ability and silver, some of our resources elsewhere, I believe that the OpEx to revenue should be a similar level as it is today. So all in all, we expected slightly better margins. Again, not immediately, it will take awhile, but slightly better margins with a similar OpEx structure.

Operator

Operator

From Canaccord, Chip Moore.

Chip Moore

Analyst

Thanks. Hey guys, maybe can talk a little bit more about the rollout out of some of these new grid service, a virtual power plant capabilities. How do we think about the go to market strategy? What do you think about adoption potential market potential over time?

Guy Sella

Management

So we, the VPP and a primary frequency reserve, we see that there are already quite a lot of interest from utilities. I think the strongest interests that we are aware of these parts of Germany and Netherlands, Australia and parts in the U.S. that type of a business is fully served by the current sales force we have. The same people while coming to a utilities which are involved more in some areas and less than some areas and actually installing Solar, first are exposed to such bids is already coming as, especially VPP in Australia is coming as the pool from some of the market. While, in some cases we are adding as part of our offering and managed to start the cycle to push a utilities into a Beta test or a pilot program. In general thing. this is a space that make all the sense. It will take time to grow to -- to become a significant part of the total revenue dollar wise. But at the same time, I think it’s, at least in the current time, it gave us an edge and differentiation that I believe will help us and will put us in in the pole position once you come to close big deals with utilities, even for the classical installation of Solar or frankly solar with battery.

Chip Moore

Analyst

Right. Okay. Thanks for that. And maybe just one more on, maybe you can provide a little more color on some of the geographic mix, I guess, in some of the more nascent area that looked like Australia was strong. Maybe we can talk about that in India penetration and some other areas? Thanks guys.

Ronen Faier

Management

Okay. So, as I, as I mentioned with the call, actually we saw strong quarter in every region in which we operate. But I would say that all in all, and again by the way, we need to take into account that this is in the quarter that these traditionally considered be a slower quarter compared to the previous one given winter conditions in the northern hemisphere. So with that said, again the U.S. continued to be a stable, strong. We continue our, a share taking dare, we continue our expansion and I don’t think that there is anything special to say there. In Europe what we continue to see is the strength of the Netherlands and Germany, and Netherlands the market is growing very rapidly. The government put the very ambitious targets for solar growth because they’re lagging behind with the renewable, usage on their agreed compared to the EU requirements that therefore for the market is there, it’s growing and it’s expected to grow in the next few years quite substantially. But other than the Netherlands in Germany, Italy is a great market. The UK is a great market. And again, even markets like Sweden continue to contribute very nice results. Moving to Asia and Australia, so Australia is a target market for us as we mentioned in the last quarters. We see very nice share gains there. We see our product to be more broadly used and I think that we’re satisfied with the growth dare. India is growing, but a relatively slowly. Again, it’s a market that takes a little bit more time, when you look at the typical sales cycle. But again, when we look at the pipeline that we have there, we feel that all in all it meets our expectation. And again, there are other markets that you start to see popping in places like Taiwan or Korea or other markets that are growing as well. So all in all, it’s basically a growth in all regions, but you start to see the direction that Guy mentioned in the last call, moving towards the 50% US, 50% non-US at the end of ‘18 and towards 33% of US, Europe and Asia as we move forward towards ‘19 and ‘20.

Operator

Operator

And next we’ll hear from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

Thanks so much guys. Could you talk a little bit about the geographic exposure for Gamatronics assets? Are you getting into any new geographies with these guys and how much of their sales organization are you going to be able to leverage in your opinion?

Ronen Faier

Management

Sorry, how much, what was the second part of the question Colin?

Colin Rusch

Analyst

How much are you going to be able to leverage their sales organization?

Guy Sella

Management

So I think as, as I mentioned, probably the biggest GAAP that Gamatronic has today is a lack of investment in sales and marketing and that will be probably the first thing will do based on the current structure, is to increase sales force to improve sales processes and to add marketing, which currently it’s something that the company is doing in a very low level. I think that by that we’ll be able to increase market share relatively fast in the geographies that the company is selling it, which is mainly, some countries in Europe, US, a little bit in South Africa, little bit in China. I am not expecting that will, I’m expecting to put it from the other perspective. I’m expecting that it will take us six months to start to see the changes that after implementation and probably a 12 months from the closing until the system will run as we, believe in children based on the current product. I would expect that the in 18 -- in approximately 18 to 24 months, we’ll have new set of products, the new topologies based on them on them, the total combined ability of SolarEdge R&D and Gamatronic R&D and with this set of product, I believe will take it to the next phase and start to take market share in a bigger way. Building a business that I would expect that in three years from now supposed to be in the size of few hundred million dollars.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

Okay. That’s very helpful. And then can you talk a little bit about energy storage as a percentage of sales? I don’t know how much visibility you have to, um, the solution on a software basis, but wanting to get a sense of how many of your installs that you’re included in including storage at this point?

Guy Sella

Management

So we have very good is the ability for that since it’s a specific inverter in North America and in Europe it requires another interface. So we have good visibility. Today the storage market is limited, I think mainly not from a demand in the market, but rather from the availability of spare batteries. So I think that from the perspective of the amount of inverters, it’s still a negligible. The amount of inverters we’re selling for battery application for storage applications, but that’s not because of limitation on the size of the inverter and I don’t think that - it is today limitations in the demand from the market, different than what if you remember I said a couple of years ago, actually three years ago when we just started and I said well, the demand building will take time. I think today, three years after the first the introduction of OHSAS product in the beginning for us with Tesla, I think now it’s a expected to reach a demand and it’s more of a matter of availability of batteries in order to really drive this market volume.

Operator

Operator

Next we’ll hear from Carter Driscoll with B. Riley FBR.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

Hey guys. Hey Ronen. You talked a lot about the improvements you can make with the in the acquisition from a company perspective, obviously driving out costs and building sales channel. What about the kind of technology overlap with the ability to use some of yours? I’m assuming there UPS is battery base not fly wheel. So a couple of things; one, talk about the kind of better environment, I mean it’s been a fairly large market but a fairly sleepy, guys like Schneider, Ethan and Mitsubishi, kind of long dominated that space. Maybe talk about some of the specific end markets. Obviously the data center markets probably gets most high profile, but maybe talk about some of the others like healthcare and you know, can you leverage your existing or you’re pushing the battery and displaced maybe some of their legacy technology. Is that the type of product overlap or the way that you can improve the product profile?

Ronen Faier

Management

So I think there were quite a few. So top question here. So the technology developed by Gamatronic is very advanced, especially from the software perspective. It has many capabilities that will also help us to improve our, a storage product mainly in the area of the combination with the generators and the ability to switch in and out. And UPS or storage device in a one cycle frequency. Those are, concurrently feed two characters that are common in UPS and not yet common in them in the standard storage that we are selling. On the other hand, and we’ll use the HD-wave topology to further improve the efficiency and the cost of the product they currently have. But that again, as mentioned before, that will take 18 to 24 months to develop a thing that the current set of products that Gamatronic is very advanced, especially as you mentioned for the for the area of - for the market, for the segment of data storage. I think your question about the, how you compete to be good players in the area? Is the classical question. When we came, SMA was number one, started to sell product 28 years ahead of us. The market, 85% of the world’s market was in Europe. And if I remember correctly, above 50% were in Germany, so we had to compete with SMA when they had a lead of 28 years. In Germany and with time and dedication, good product, good people we managed to close a big part of the gap. And I would, uh, I would expect that today we’re number one in residential even in Germany. So, I think it’s, of course it’s always hard to compete, always the advantage for the big players that are already in market, such as Schneider than you mention and Ethan and Emerson, those are the three biggest ones, but we competed with Schneider in quite some areas and then, and I don’t think that we are shy.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

Appreciate that color. Maybe just switching gears a little bit, you kind of the elevated inventory, do you have any sense of, how many, maybe weeks at the top distributors? There are, I mean, getting some questions about whether the inventory is that just a little bit high and as you mentioned, because they want us some safety stock in or whether they’re a little bit elevated and you know, maybe that falls down some demand the second half?

Ronen Faier

Management

We have good visibility, probably not perfect to inventory of fed distributors in Europe and the US. I think in generally within four to eight weeks, I think the majority of the, from what we can, achieve the information, I think in most of the European big distributors, the volume, the inventory is within the four weeks. In the US, there are distributors that have inventory within the eight weeks period. I don’t think these levels are out of the healthy a stock and I don’t think it’s suppose to limit our ability grow, in this quarter for sure.

Operator

Operator

Operator Instructions] Next we’ll hear from Joseph Osha with JMP Securities.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey, this is actually [Haley Caley] on for Joe Osha and I just had a quick follow up question to the geographic mix and I was wondering if you guys could break that down in terms of the megawatts shift by region?

Ronen Faier

Management

We usually do it based on the megawatt shift only on the revenue and as, as we provided, but again, since all in all the prices are relatively, immaterially different between geographies and the separation between a commercial and residential. So all in all you can assume relatively similar distribution.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And at this time I would like to turn conference back over to the CEO for any additional or concluding remarks.

Guy Sella

Management

Thank you. In summary, we concluded this quarter with strong financial results on all parameters and continue growth and diversification of our product mix and geography presence. We’re excited to announce our first acquisition, which one’s close, will enable us to apply or financial and technological strengths and innovation to the UPS sector. This is our first nonorganic step in business outside the solar arena, and will further our mission to drive progress in smart energy management and transform the way the world produces and consumes energy. Thank you very much for joining us on today’s call. All the best.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude today’s presentation. Thank you everyone for your participation and you may now disconnect.