Gregory L. Ebel
Analyst · TPH
Right. And as you know, Brad, I mean, we haven't moved anything to execution on that front. But on the Platte pipeline, look, Platte has been consistently apportioned for 9 years. Meaning, that basically the shippers don't have the capacity they would like, and they have told us they need more capacity on the route from Guernsey to Patoka. And it's increasing production from the DJ and the Powder River basins, as well as those new pipelines you mentioned from the Bakken converging on Guernsey. We think there's a real need to move light, sweet crude from Guernsey to market, and a handful of parties, actually, a large handful, as you pointed out, have proposed pipeline secured crude from the Rockies to Cushing. We believe that a stronger course can -- case, can be made for taking that crude further east to market rather than just flooding Cushing. And we think that capacity has that opportunity to go further east. And arguably, you could take it further east, or you could take it down to the Gulf via barges, et cetera, so a slightly different proposition. And then last thing I would say, you're right, many people have proposed projects. As you may recall, we blocked the Express pipeline project for exactly that reason. Many people proposed many projects, and you know the most infamous one of all and have not been able to get them done. The people that have been able to do well have been people with assets already in the ground and finding ways to do that. The same way we've strategically been able to do that on the gas side. I expect we'll find a way to do that on the oil side. And I've already seen that with some small brownfield work on Express. We talked a little bit about some capacity debottlenecking that will go up for an open season here at the end of this year, early next year that allows us to bring in, call it, $150 million or so of expansion on Express, and get that up closer to nameplate. That stuff is all driven by the customers wanting to do that and our ability to already have an asset in the ground. We're an early player on that front. There's no doubt about it. There are some bigger players, but I like our position in that regard, and we're going to keep pushing forward with that. And what I'll guarantee for you is we can't get the commitments to take on those projects, so the returns that allow us to keep growing our dividends and distributions, we won't do them.