Gregory L. Ebel
Analyst · Goldman Sachs
Sure. So I think as Pat mentioned, we see really -- the impact from the conventional side of things in Western Canada for 2013 is about $50 million, $55 million. Now you obviously have got growth in the unconventional side, which is helping to offset some of that. But we'll have to see how things develop in '14. There's always some risk that you could continue to see some of that. But different than on the U.S. side, where often you see G&P natural declines, that's not what's happening in Western Canada; it's pure commodity response. So with gas now, I think AECO is running around $3, maybe $3.10, and much closer to what you'd see on NYMEX, running $3, $3.35. A more traditional kind of 10% spread. You should see some of that drilling come back. And in fact, a lot of that might be on the interruptible side. On the pipeline side, I wouldn't -- that's not terribly concerning to me. As you know, same as on the U.S. side that that's a fee-based business and contracted up, so less concern. With respect to Empress, couple of things. Everything's on the table, Ted, in terms of looking at Empress, you're right, there's too much capacity up there, so is there a way to appropriately rationalize the overall asset base up there amongst all the various players, that's something we're looking at. As we've said before, Empress is not a particularly strategic item for Spectra Energy. And then lastly, obviously, a different contract makeup this year. I think as we shared with you last year, we had a pretty large buildup of contacts that ended up being out of the money, if you will, last year, and those have run off substantially. And so we don't see the same type of impact. Things like write-downs, which I think ran around $15 million last year, we don't have that. So I feel pretty good about our ability to claw our way back on Empress this year. But everything's on the table from a rationalization perspective.