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Shoe Carnival, Inc. (SCVL)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 27, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Shoe Carnival's Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2017 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. It is also being broadcast via webcast. Any reproduction or rebroadcast of any portion of this call is expressly prohibited. Management's remarks may contain forward-looking statements that involve a number of risk factors. These risk factors could cause the company's actual results to be materially different from those projected in such statements. Forward-looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the discussion of risk factors included in the company's SEC filings and today's earnings press release. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today's date. The company disclaims any obligation to update any of the risk factors or to publicly announce any revisions to the forward-looking statements discussed on today's conference call or contained in today's press release to reflect future events or developments. During this call, we refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted SG&A expenses, adjusted net income and adjusted diluted earnings per share. The non-GAAP financial measures are provided in addition to and not as alternatives for or reported results determined in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of our reported results determined in accordance with GAAP to the non-GAAP financial measures is included in the financial tables of our earnings release. I'll now turn the call over to Mr. Cliff Sifford, President and Chief Executive Officer of Shoe Carnival, for opening remarks. Mr. Sifford, you may begin.

Clifton Sifford

Management

Thank you, and welcome to Shoe Carnival's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year-end 2017 Earnings Conference call. Joining me on the call today is Kerry Jackson, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Operating and Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that fiscal 2017 consisted of 53 weeks, while fiscal 2016 consisted of 52 weeks. References to annual comparable store sales are for the comparable 52-week period ending January 27, 2018. In addition, the fourth quarter of 2017 consisted of 14 weeks, while the fourth quarter 2016 consisted of 13 weeks. References of fourth quarter comparable store sales are for the comparable 13-week period ending January 27, 2018. On today's call, I'll provide a brief overview of annual company's operating highlights and our fourth quarter sales results as well as an overview of our fiscal year 2018 guidance. Kerry will review the financial results in more detail, then we'll open up the call to take your questions. 2017 was a transitional year for Shoe Carnival. Our team further refined our strategic direction in order to position us for long-term growth. The evolution of consumer purchasing habits has resulted in us consistently making important changes and strategic investments across our business. These are already evident in terms of how we engage with Shoe Carnival customers and the multiple opportunities we provide to them to find our assortment of footwear for the entire family, whether they are in our stores, online or on a mobile device. In addition, we are excited about the ways in which we will continue to better utilize our Shoe Carnival customer data to create an even more fun, exciting and memorable shopping experience. Before I get into more detail about the progress we made on our strategic initiatives, I want to give a brief overview…

W. Jackson

Management

Thank you, Cliff. Fourth quarter net sales increased $9.0 million to $243.2 million compared to the fourth quarter of last year. Of this increase in net sales, $13.0 million was attributable to the extra week included in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2017 compared to Q4 last year, along with an increase of $4.9 million in sales from the 23 new stores opened since the beginning of the fourth quarter of fiscal 2016. These increases were partially offset by a loss in sales of $7.9 million from the 30 stores closed over the same period of time and a decrease in comparable store sales of $1.0 million or 0.5%. Our gross profit margin on a GAAP basis for the quarter was 28.9% compared to 27.5% in the fourth quarter last year. The merchandise margin increased 1.4%, while our buying, distribution and occupancy expense were flat as a percentage of sales. Included in the gross profit in the fourth quarter this year was a $3.3 million gain on insurance proceeds related to hurricane-affected stores. Excluding the gain on insurance proceeds, our adjusted gross profit margin would have been flat for the fourth quarter. SG&A expenses on a GAAP basis increased $4.1 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2017 to $70.0 million. As a percentage of net sales, these expenses increased to 28.8% compared to 28.1% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2016. We estimate approximately $2.9 million of the increase in SG&A expenses was due to the extra week included in Q4 this year. SG&A in Q4 this year also included noncash impairment charges of $3.4 million for 30 underperforming stores and a $1.9 million increase in stock-based compensation expense due to the enactment of the U.S. Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 and its impact on the anticipated…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question will come from Mitchel Kummetz with Pivotal Research.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

Kerry, I just want to drill down on the gross margin a little bit. So for Q4, it was flat if you ex out the insurance gain. And that's with gross -- with merch margin up 140 bps and buying flat. I'm trying to understand; can you reconcile that for me? Where did you lose 140 basis points when you take those 2 other pieces into consideration?

W. Jackson

Management

Well, I don't think -- from the liquidation of the closing stores was the primary component of that, which will have -- there's 30 basis points worth of gain in the fourth quarter from the closing of -- or from the gain on the insurance settlement for the hurricane stores. And the only other item that really flowed through there was the liquidation of stores in the fourth quarter.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

So what was the impact of liquidation of stores? And is that not part of the 140 basis points of merch margin?

W. Jackson

Management

It is. That's what's included in that. And that's what [indiscernible]

Clifton Sifford

Management

Seasons if margins were flat. If you take the -- so he's reconciling.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

I can always follow up with you guys afterwards. Let me ask you, on boots, Cliff, could you say -- I know that you guys -- you planned boots down on the fourth quarter. So could you say what percent of your sales in Q4 were boots? And then how did boots -- you broke down boots kind of across men's, women's and kids. I'm just kind of curious how boots comped as a group. And then what was the comp on the non-boot piece in Q4?

Clifton Sifford

Management

You would have to allow me to get the comp in the non-boot piece. But the boots were down in total high singles. And as a percent to total, I think you were asking me that question as well.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

Yes.

Clifton Sifford

Management

Last 2016, for the fourth quarter, boots accounted for 25% of our total sales. And this year, in 2017, 23%. So we lost 200 basis points against the total.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

Okay. Can you guys say what the impact on comp was for not being opening on Thanksgiving this year?

Clifton Sifford

Management

We can, but we would rather not. If -- for competitive reasons, we just really wouldn't like to give the volume away. I will tell you this: Had it not been for that, we would have been positive for the quarter.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

Okay. And then lastly, Kerry, on the guidance, what share count is that EPS range based on? Because you guys obviously have the buyback, and you bought back some stock already in Q1 to date. Are you -- is there any buyback implied in the guide?

W. Jackson

Management

It is. We're using weighted average diluted shares on an annual basis of about 15.2 million. And Mitch, I now understand your question. I'm sorry, I should have -- I thought you were saying something there. The entire 140 basis point gain in the Q4 merchandise margin was the $3.3 million gain on insurance. So when you strip that out, it was flat on a year-over-year basis.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

So the merch margin was flat. But merch margin on boots were up, but then you lost some -- where did you -- where did you lose the merch...

Clifton Sifford

Management

The loss [indiscernible] the entire loss in margin, first of all, we didn't put boots into the closing stores because they were going to close in the fourth quarter. It didn't think [indiscernible] seasonal boots into a clearance store. So the clearance stores did not have to clear through that boot product. So the entire loss from a margin perspective was the closing of the 16 stores.

Operator

Operator

Next question will come from Chris Svezia with Wedbush.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

I guess, first question I have is just on the comp guidance. In the press release for the year, you say flat to low single-digit positive. But Cliff, in your optimism, you said low single digit, I think, for the year. Just curious, which is it.

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, we expect to be up low single digits for the year. If -- I missed that in the press release that said that. I apologize for that, but we expect sales to be up low singles.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. And then just on the map for the year in terms of revenues, revenue being, if you pick the midpoint, roughly flat despite not having extra week and despite all the store closings. Just mathematically, Kerry, maybe you could just walk through kind how you're getting there. Or maybe you would have thought you would have sales down slightly given all the store closures. Just maybe walk through how you're thinking about that.

W. Jackson

Management

Well, the small comp stores -- the low single-digit comp store increase is the primary piece of it. Now keeping in mind that when we close the store, we basically force out the inventory. So whatever's left, we end up closing through the wall. So what we see is that we have a fairly substantial hit to gross profit margin in the store, but we see limited sales decline because of that store closing, because you're artificially pushing the shoes out the door through accelerated discounts.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. I see. Shoe Perks, just -- will you -- are you assuming or thinking about any benefit related to whatever you're going to do during the second quarter in terms of comp, in terms of the business? Or maybe just help out what you plan on doing. Are you targeting e-mails? I don't think you were doing that beforehand. Just a little bit more color on what you're doing in Shoe Perks and how you think about that.

Clifton Sifford

Management

We are going to be targeting our e-mail more effectively, I do believe that. We are going to improve Shoe Perks program by offering levels that allow our customers to get to a VIP level. And we do believe that it could be accretive to our sales comps. And in fact, that's part of what we built into our low single-digit comp. But we don't believe that this is going to be up and active until the latter part of the second half. So the sales increase that we expect to get would be as we go through the third and fourth quarter.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. And just on -- when you said, Kerry or Cliff, when you talk about merchandise margin being up for the year in terms of fiscal year '19, how does -- how do the other elements to the P&L play into that? Buying and occupancy, SG&A, just some color on those parameters.

W. Jackson

Management

Due to -- what we call the current year will be fiscal 2018 is -- so you're asking what's in our annual guidance. What you expect to see would be from a GAAP basis comparison, is that your merchandise margin would be down, and it's up primarily due to the fact of 2 things: one, the hurricane effect, the gain on that, which is in the prior year will not be repeated; and then have some effect -- the decline in the merchandise margin. We should be able to leverage our SG&A cost against the small comp store sales increase, plus we won't have as many store opening costs, nor store closing costs in '18. It's just the improvement in operating margin for the year. Then the rest of the gains from an EPS standpoint's going to come from the lower tax rate.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

But you said that was following on a GAAP basis. What about non-GAAP? What about on the $1.49 that you did for the year?

W. Jackson

Management

We -- GAAP versus non-GAAP gets very difficult, from what our attorneys are helping us to understand biggest the SEC is such a hot issue. I'd rather reconcile from the GAAP to GAAP for you, and then you can look at the adjusted. Now keeping in mind, as I said, that part of the gross profit piece of it, part of the decline is not repeating that gain. But then the other piece of the decline in the gross profit margin's going to be from the cost of the liquidations of the merchandise for the 34 store -- the 20 to 25 stores...

Clifton Sifford

Management

25 to 30.

W. Jackson

Management

25 to 30, I'll get it right. 25 to 30 stores that we have planned.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] From Susquehanna, we'll hear from Sam Poser.

Samuel Poser

Analyst

Do you all expect the -- how do you think about -- and you talked about gross margin a little bit. But can you give us a breakdown of expenses and gross margin for the year '18? How are you are thinking about that?

Clifton Sifford

Management

I didn't hear it. I can't hear him.

W. Jackson

Management

You're saying what are the qualitative pieces of guidance for 2018?

Samuel Poser

Analyst

Yes. I mean, can you give us some idea? Are you expecting to see gross margin growth given your inventory's so clean and then you'll continue investing so as you'll see some deleverage in SG&A but expect gross margin to grow? Or I mean some direction there.

Clifton Sifford

Management

I do. Sam, I think we have an opportunity to improve the margin on product as we go through the year because we entered the year incredibly clean with our boot inventory down, in total in the 20s, our seasonal boots product down in total in the 20s. So I'm -- I think it gives us an opportunity for growth through the year. Additionally, if we don't -- if we can continue to work on the stores that are supposed to close in the fourth quarter, and we can save a few more of those stores, which we think is a possibility, then that is also going to help our gross margin. Right now, we're scheduled to close, if I remember correctly, almost 20 stores in the fourth quarter. And that would have an effect on gross -- fourth quarter gross margin. But if we can reduce that store count and -- we are very helpful that, that will be the case, that we can do that. I'm sure that, that's a little bit in the air because of the number of store closures. But I think when you combined the 2, was a distinct opportunity to see an improved margin on product.

Samuel Poser

Analyst

And then on the investment side, you're investing in a lot of these new systems and so on. Does that mean that -- I mean, I guess, the question is how much investment do you need to continue to improve your relationship with your customers? And then how much investment do you continue to need on top of everything you've already done to continue improving that communication with your customers?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, Sam, the -- we don't know -- today, I can't give you a number on the investment for the CRM software. We're still in the process of vetting that. I can tell you that by the fact that we're -- we've chosen not to open up new stores and use our capital this way, is built into -- partially built into the budget -- or mostly built into the budget.

Samuel Poser

Analyst

So I mean, we could say...

W. Jackson

Management

Our best estimate.

Samuel Poser

Analyst

Kerry or Cliff, to simplify this, you're expecting modest growth in gross margin, offset by probably, if you comp way at the high end, you might get leverage in SG&A. But it's unlikely you'll see SG&A leverage. Is that a fair way to think about it?

W. Jackson

Management

From an -- if you're comparing our guidance to the adjusted numbers, each of those categories are relatively flat as a percentage compared to...

Samuel Poser

Analyst

Compared to last year. So on an adjusted basis...

W. Jackson

Management

Compared to last year, yes.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we have a follow-up from Chris with Wedbush.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Can you define, by any chance, what low single-digit store growth is for this year? Or are you just talking like 3 stores, 4 stores? Or is that just anything from 1 to 9?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, it's anything less than 5. Actually, low single digit, when you say anything under 3.5. So you can't book half a store. I'll tell you, it's going to be somewhere in that range.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. And with regard to just -- I'm just curious. Given the fact you're going to benefit a little bit in Q1 and obviously, a lot in Q2 from this timing of the extra week, from an earnings perspective, is it fair to say that you would see the majority of your growth -- or pretty significant growth, earnings growth in the second quarter? And then, obviously, potentially less or maybe slight declines potentially in the back half of the year just given the timing of the calendar?

W. Jackson

Management

I think you're going to see increases in both Q1 and Q2. Remember we had a very difficult Q1 last year with a negative 3% comp number -- 3-9 comp number we're guiding to not repeat that. And then -- and the shift in the important back-to-school week into Q2 helps the profitability significantly there. And then you'll see -- most likely see declines in Q3 and 4 in the -- due to the shifts.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then, I guess, Cliff, the weather is treating you pretty well.

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, right now, it's raining like son of a gun.

Operator

Operator

I see no other -- actually, we take a question from Greg Pendy with Sidoti.

Gregory Pendy

Analyst

Just, I guess, big picture, can you just -- as you kind of hold out for possible better real estate opportunities, I mean, just as we think about that, does that mean -- would you consider maybe increasing your footprint in malls right now, where at least we're hearing maybe there are some opportunities and your penetration is low? Or are you going to sort of maintain your current footprint?

Clifton Sifford

Management

We have, Greg, we have slightly over 20 stores in malls today. And to be honest with you, we really -- we're not in any A malls. We're in a few Bs and a few Cs. We'd really like to see the fallout in malls before we start making the commitment. And that really is part of the entire strategy, is that there's so many retailers that have closed around us or rumored to be closing around us that we really need to see where the fallout is before we start, especially before we start entering in the B malls or C malls.

Operator

Operator

From Pivotal Research, we'll hear from Mitch Kummetz.

Mitchel Kummetz

Analyst

Yes, just had a quick follow-up. Cliff, you're still obviously enthusiastic on the athletic trend. And I'm just curious, how much of that is just a function of you see that as a strong trend broadly versus you're continuing to get better access to more product from the brands. I mean, if I'm not mistaken, Adidas has talked about continuing to expand some price points with more a focus on the family channel. And I'm just -- and maybe you could talk a little bit, too. But I know you've done some Nike shops, and kind of wondering where you're at there. And where that's trending for 2018? And I know you've done a little bit with PUMA, maybe Adidas as well, and I'm kind of curious how that's progressing.

Clifton Sifford

Management

That's a great question, Mitch. Thank you. The -- we are getting better product from all our key vendors. You mentioned several. We're getting a family channel level of signature product in basketball. We're getting better product selection from all the vendors that you just mentioned. I hate to talk specifically about vendors on the call, but we do believe that's part of the growth that we've seen and the continuing growth that we expect to see, and that the product just keeps getting better. But one of the key elements to what's going on is our buyers have done an excellent job, and I'm just absolutely proud of the way that they look at the product and have done a great job of identifying the key items and buying big depth in it. So we don't disappoint many customers, and that's a good thing. And then to answer your question about shops, we plan on opening -- and I won't get specific on the brands. But we expect to open a minimum of 25 additional shops this year, in fact, 25 additional shops this year and next year. So we're very pleased with the performance of these shops, and what they brought to our athletic business, and to the percentage that athletic becomes of the stores where we put the shops in.

Operator

Operator

And at this time, there are no other questions. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any additional or concluding remarks.

Clifton Sifford

Management

Then thank you for joining us on the call today. And we look forward to speaking to you again in May on our first quarter results. Thank you and have a good week.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's presentation. We do thank everyone for your participation, and you may now disconnect.